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L1P1
07-07-06, 06:22 PM
I'm looking at a map of RoadAmerica...

http://www.roadamerica.com/2006/images/maps/ra_map_2006.pdf

...and am wondering how they decide to number corners. Turn 1 is a proper corner, turn 2 seems to be a slight bend. 3A seems to be more of a bend than 4. The Carousel is two turns. I'm confused. Is there an accepted rhyme and reason to all this?

Or am I looking at the porta-potty locations?

Steve99
07-07-06, 06:25 PM
I'm guessing it has to do with the track changing over time, and not wanting to re-number all the turns.

grungex
07-07-06, 06:45 PM
Flagging stations?

Opposite Lock
07-07-06, 06:54 PM
Do Not Question RoadAmerica. Simply obey and respect its 'thorit-ay.

Speaking of Turn 2, I heard it was named after the Turn 2 Campground. :gomer:

grungex
07-07-06, 07:19 PM
Here's a map from 1963, not much has changed. If you assign the numbers from the current map to the flag stations on this map it begins to make more sense.

http://www.na-motorsports.com/Tracks/WI/images/road-america-63.gif

L1P1
07-07-06, 07:58 PM
Here's a map from 1963...

Wow. Pretty impressive.

grungex
07-07-06, 08:02 PM
Err, I swiped it from North American Motorsports Pages (http://www.na-motorsports.com/Tracks/).

Andrew Longman
07-07-06, 08:39 PM
So how does famed T5 become T5?

grungex
07-07-06, 10:27 PM
Because 4 is 3A. ;)

Opposite Lock
07-07-06, 10:38 PM
4A. Faure. The track designers dug the new stylin' sounds of Faure's Requiem, and named a station after it. Thus, T5 had to move on down the road.

Ray Scar
07-10-06, 02:08 PM
So how does famed T5 become T5?

Because it started life as "station 5".

grungex got right when he said it was "Flagging stations?". (I'm sure that '?' was just a typo.....:))

Andrew Longman
07-10-06, 02:53 PM
Because it started life as "station 5".

grungex got right when he said it was "Flagging stations?". (I'm sure that '?' was just a typo.....:))

But by my count flag station 6 is inside T5. :confused:

Turn7
07-10-06, 03:48 PM
"Goto TF" and ask.

Steve99
07-10-06, 05:11 PM
But by my count flag station 6 is inside T5. :confused:
I think you mis-counted flag station 3A.

grungex
07-10-06, 05:30 PM
grungex got right when he said it was "Flagging stations?". (I'm sure that '?' was just a typo.....:))
Yeah, that's it, it was a typo! :p

Fitti Fan
07-10-06, 05:54 PM
Who's on first?

Andrew Longman
07-10-06, 06:13 PM
I think you mis-counted flag station 3A.

No I missed 4A

http://www.roadamerica.com/2006/images/maps/ra_map_2006.pdf

RA apparently doesn't name corners but rather flag stations.

So back to the original question, is there a convention for naming corner numbers? It's a slow Monday and now I want to know.

Nazareth was said to have 3, 4, 5 even 7 turns. Sort of depended on the series that was running there and the line the equipment being used. I always though it was a bit odd they just didn't have it set.

cameraman
07-10-06, 06:21 PM
Corners? I give you some corners...


http://www.imsaracing.net/2006/events/saltlakecity/trackmap.pdf

grungex
07-10-06, 10:37 PM
Jeebus!

I just did the full course at Autobahn, I think it was 21 turns. Took me all day just to figure out where I was.

The other goofy one is Mid-Ohio, if you run the track using the chicane before Keyhole there are two extra corner numbers for the rest of the track. So the right-hander at the end of the back straight can be #4 (Champ Cars etc.) or #6 (clubs etc.) Argh.

JT265
07-10-06, 10:44 PM
"Goto TF" and ask.



:rofl: :rofl:

Sean O'Gorman
07-10-06, 10:53 PM
Jeebus!

I just did the full course at Autobahn, I think it was 21 turns. Took me all day just to figure out where I was.

The other goofy one is Mid-Ohio, if you run the track using the chicane before Keyhole there are two extra corner numbers for the rest of the track. So the right-hander at the end of the back straight can be #4 (Champ Cars etc.) or #6 (clubs etc.) Argh.

And I believe there is no corner 13 station at Mid-Ohio, it is where the original section (Oak Tree Bend) was that was removed after the first season.

rjohnson999
07-11-06, 08:39 AM
No.


So back to the original question, is there a convention for naming corner numbers?