Indy Racing League IndyCar Series

[JoeBob]

Why wait until the press conference in the morning, when the IRL has the images stowed away it on their website now:

http://www.indyracing.com/modules/images/indycarseriesleadbx_r1_c1.jpg

http://www.indyracing.com/modules/images/indycarseriesleadbx_r2_c1.jpg

[Peter Venkman]

Who cares?

[JoeBob]

CART should, they're the ones who came up with the name and started marketing it. :D

[Classic Apex]

Looks like they spent $10 on it.

:rolleyes:

[Napoleon]

snooooooooooooooze

[Turn7]

TG is just trying to capture any of the CART reputation that he can.

I wouldn't be suprised if he decided to pay PPG for the right to use their name in conjunction with the Indycar title.

[Lizzerd]

"...New Name...", "...Top Series..." What a joke.

[DaveL]

My only regret is that we don't have a vomit emoticon.

[RaceGrrl]

http://smilies.crowd9.com/cwm/cwm/puke.gifIRL

[rabbit]

IRL? What's that?

[cart7]

Sorry RaceGrrl, the vomit is just short of hitting it's mark!:D

[mapguy]

The new irl logo's are little red x's?

[mnkywrch]

Originally posted by mapguy
The new irl logo's are little red x's?

JoeBob found it on the IRL server.

Also appears the IRL folks have moved the image.

[WickerBill]

They could have at least posted another image in the place of that one; something to make JB look silly, perhaps...

WB

[mnkywrch]

Originally posted by WickerBill
They could have at least posted another image in the place of that one; something to make JB look silly, perhaps...


I'm 98% sure that JB just found the "holding" location...

[Napoleon]

Originally posted by WickerBill
They could have at least posted another image in the place of that one; something to make JB look silly, perhaps...

WB

Like someone did to Tomahawk?

;)

[WickerBill]

Uh-huh.

Cept that wasn't exactly "silly".

:eek:

WB

[RacinM3]

That's funny that he found it on their server a week ahead of it being officially unveiled. What kind of morons are those people?? LOL!!

I must have missed what happened to tomahawk.....somebody fill me in??

[JoeBob]

They officially announced it today, so I only found it about 15 hours early. They've also since changed their server configuration to not allow directory listings, something that should be done moments after getting your webserver up and running. So it looks like somebody had a bit to do this morning 'cause of little ole me.

At least nobody alerted the media, getting the whole story in today's papers and completely stealing their thunder.

Maybe next time ;)

[RacinM3]

Joe Bob: (insert thumbs-up smiley here).

[nrc]

This series name brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.

[mnkywrch]

JB, ya posted it on TF... all of the IRL and IMS media staff read it... what did you expect?

[JoeBob]

I figured somebody would probably get their wrist slapped for letting it leak. I was surprised that they had taken care of everything by 9AM, maybe it was more than a slap. :D

[nrc]

This should be a lesson to anyone in the business world. Never put effort into building a brand that you don't own lock, stock and barrel. The Molson people should get a clue and start phasing out their use of "Indy". Start calling it the Molson Indy Grand Prix and then five years down the road just drop "Indy."

The sad thing is that CART's efforts to build the sport in the '80s and '90s are now allowing George and company to co-opt CART's history. The marketing BS coming out of the IRL will now be formed around the idea that their "IndyCar" series has a history predating the IRL, which it really doesn't. Don't be surprised if you see more and more 80's and 90's era Indy footage trotted out to sell the notion that they've been IndyCar all along.

Unfortunately I don't know that CART is any position to counter this. CART may be embracing the ChampCar brand but they're in danger of losing every other connection to their heritage if they keep pushing hard in the international F1 feeder series direction.

[JoeBob]

Great point, nrc. I'd been wondering why, of all the video available, they've been choosing to use the 1992 Indy footage of Al Unser Jr in their commercials.

Its all about pretending that was them.

[mnkywrch]

Like it or not, both sides can claim "heritage" to the past.

For me, the heritage of open wheel was a primarily oval, North American series until the 1980's... until it grew to include road and street circuits, staying primarily North American. Now you've got CART worrying about overseas expansion and the only time anyone in the IRL turns right is when Scott Sharp is doing it... so I'm not sure either side is carrying on any "heritage".

In retrospect, it fell apart in the 70's when the Indy/ChampCars grew wings and the short track heroes kept driving the spridgets. They had be the primary source for talent - as their series had been comprised of cars that resembles the "big cars".

Now the spridgets resemble stock cars and they wonder why the drivers end up in NASCAR. :rolleyes:

Besides, the past is the past. NASCAR has a past, they acknowledge their past but they don't dwell on it like open wheel does. They're too busy promoting their hot young stars.

CART may as well forge a new path - North American road racing series run on road & street circuits.

[FortyOneFord]

So it's both a league and a series?!?! Wow, I'm gunna start watching now! :rolleyes:

Yawn. Is that all they have? Chumps.

[mnkywrch]

It follows the NASCAR model.

NASCAR Winston Cup Series.
IndyCar <insert sponsor here> Series.

[WickerBill]

Re: disappearing posts

As I stated in the "Limits" thread in Feedback, the "FNS" moniker won't fly here.

Thanks for working with me.

WB

[FortyOneFord]

Originally posted by mnkywrch
It follows the NASCAR model.

NASCAR Winston Cup Series.
IndyCar <insert sponsor here> Series.

What exactly is their sponsor? All I see is The Indy Racing League Indycar Series. We know it's being brought to us courtesy of yoda and honda bucks, but no official title sponsor.

[mnkywrch]

Originally posted by FortyOneFord
What exactly is their sponsor? All I see is The Indy Racing League Indycar Series. We know it's being brought to us courtesy of yoda and honda bucks, but no official title sponsor.

They're still looking for one.

But the name makes no sense without one.

[FortyOneFord]

Originally posted by mnkywrch
They're still looking for one.

But the name makes no sense without one.

It still wouldn't make any sense with one. Example.

The Indy Racing League Toyota Indycar series. WTF? It's just a wee bit redundant.

[RaceChic]

Originally posted by rabbit
IRL? What's that?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: