car problems

[Ankf00]

stupid v dub :mad:

and naturally, this would happen on a sunday when everyone's closed...

I've had to replace a starter on a subaru years ago, but it didn't sound like this, I turn the key, there's a loud rapid-fire machine gun-like switching noise as if something's f'ed up in the starter. the warning lights on the dash, and the blinkers, all start blinking.

I know the MkIV golf/jettas are supposed to have craptastic electrical systems, what's weird is that if I only turn the key 1/2 way or so, at the point where the engine would usually begin turning, the horn starts honking as it does when you lock the car, a short "beep"

stupid v dub :mad:

[Sean O'Gorman]

My guess is your battery is dead.

[mapguy]

My guess is your battery is dead.

That would explain why the dash lights come on and the horn honks. :gomer:

[Sean O'Gorman]

By dead, I mean not enough power to start the car. He put his phone to the engine bay and it made the clicking sound that I was so familiar with when I used to valet cars.

I'll bet my posting priveliges for the next month that's what it is.

[Spicoli]

By dead, I mean not enough power to start the car. He put his phone to the engine bay and it made the clicking sound that I was so familiar with when I used to valet cars.

I'll bet my posting priveliges for the next month that's what it is.

:D


cool!

[Ankf00]

as long as the cowboys lose tomorrow, everything will be fine.

[devilmaster]

do the lights dim when you try and start it? does it look like its losing power?

perhaps the contacts need to be cleaned. that can also cause what you're seeing

[Ankf00]

contacts are as clean as can be short of being brand new, car's a few months short of 2 years

hooked the battery up to a 2 yo G35, engine off, clean terminals, still won't start. + dead bat -> + good bat -> -good bat -> ground .

but while the jumper cables were hooked up & I tried to start the car, it did the whole dead battery starting routine, like if Bill Parcells or Ken Hitchcock trying to bench his bodyweight. that drained noise that builds up, the dash lights look drained, then finally you hear that overtaxed motor trying to turn

then I start the G35 engine, let it run 2-4 mins, then turn the key & it's back to the super clicker routine

then I kill the G35 engine, try the VW key a few times. it'll alternate between machine gun paced clicking & the dead battery start routine during a single turn of the key, I'd turn it off after 5-8 seconds... rest it another minute or so, then try again, same thing again w/ it alternating between the 2 different characteristics

stupid v dub :mad:

[Cam]

f'n Germans! ;)

[grungex]

Time to unpimp your auto.

Seriously though, it still sounds like a battery problem.

[Methanolandbrats]

Bentley Publishing + voltmeter can solve your problem :thumbup:

[dando]

See? We told you those things are gay. :p :gomer: Definitely sounds electrical.

-Kevin

[Ankf00]

See? We told you those things are gay. :p :gomer: Definitely sounds electrical.

-Kevin

I spend as much on going out per month as I do the car note :p


Bentley Publishing + voltmeter

multimeter shows 12V :\

oh well, this is what extended warranties are for.

[Wheel-Nut]

Time to sell it, get you a 'yota.

[B3RACER1a]

What does it read under a load (trying to start the car)? Any battery will read 12v if its just sitting there. If it has a bad section in it, it can still read full voltage, but as soon as it has any load, it'll drop to nothing. :tony:

Give it a shot!

[racer2c]

Ank - start with the least expensive possible solution first. Drop a new battery in it and see what happens. If it is a wiring gremlin then you'll know how to proceed.

Coincidentally, this past Saturday my daughter vacuumed out my truck and left the key in the on position while listening to the radio and when I tried to start it on Sunday it made the "machine gun" sound you mentioned which is the starter gear not engaging fully due to lack of juice. I have one of those portable starter packs and used it to fire it right back up. NOTE: newer cars should not be jumped from car to car due to the risk of frying your computer. Get a jump booster. I've never experienced horns beeping and lights flashing due to a weakened battery. But then again I haven't had a VW since '86.

[Andrew Longman]

You might try swapping the battery for the one in the G35.

I troubleshot a similar problem (weird but not exactly the same symptoms) in a Dakota last month and it turned out the battery had a short in it.

I doubt you would would be showing 12V with a short, but that swap will tell you if the problem is in the battery or the system.

But don't mess around with too much more, you might void your extended warranty.

[Ankf00]

thanks guys, but I just said F it and called the dealer for a tow, would've swapped batteries today, but there were already a couple of other things I need the dealer to fix up

[Andrew Longman]

Let us know how it turns out. Always need an answer to a Puzzler

[Spicoli]

thanks guys, but I just said F it and called the dealer for a tow, would've swapped batteries today, but there were already a couple of other things I need the dealer to fix up

Dealer. :laugh:

Ank = hosed.

[devilmaster]

Let us know how it turns out. Always need an answer to a Puzzler

Plus there's a bet on the line with this one..... :D

[Andrew Longman]

Plus there's a bet on the line with this one..... :D

Agreed. And for the record, dead battery does not = shorted battery.

Also, for the record SeanO already lost. A dead battery will jump. It might not hold a charge, but it will jump.

[Ankf00]

Dealer. :laugh:

Ank = hosed.

warranty. :gomer:

Ank pays $0.00

[ferrarigod]

warranty. :gomer:

Ank pays $0.00

Spic = Pwn3d. :laugh:

[devilmaster]

Spic = Pwn3d. :laugh:

Nope. Even though Ank doesn't pay, he's still inconvienienced(?), as per the grumbling and mad emotions on the first post. :D

[Ankf00]

Nope. Even though Ank doesn't pay, he's still inconvienienced(?), as per the grumbling and mad emotions on the first post. :D

true, but that wasn't spickly's point, still pwn3d. :p He'll be double-pwn3d when I step foot on the slopes this Saturday as well :D

Ank - 2
v dub sucking - 1 :flame:
Spickly - 0

[Spicoli]

Nope. Even though Ank doesn't pay, he's still inconvienienced(?), as per the grumbling and mad emotions on the first post. :D

:rofl:

Spickly = F-150 FX4

Ank-a-billy = Vbubber. :gomer:


spickly = +1
ankerbilly = -1

:yuck:

[Ankf00]

:rofl:

Spickly = F-150 FX4

sure thing, Cleetus :gomer:

[Spicoli]

at least i have a girlfriend. :p

[racer2c]

at least i have a girlfriend. :p

Is this the point where you guys embrace? :yuck:

[Wheel-Nut]

Sounds like they are setting up a mountain top rendzvous and "couples ski" down the hill!! :laugh:

[Ankf00]

at least i have a girlfriend. :p

is the wife aware? :gossip:

[Turn7]

thanks guys, but I just said F it and called the dealer for a tow, would've swapped batteries today, but there were already a couple of other things I need the dealer to fix up

equals, I'm a cartard and don't have a clue how to release the hood let alone try and understand the things these guys suggested.


:D

[cameraman]

He'll be double-pwn3d when I step foot on the slopes this Saturday as well :D

I just gotta know, how does hiking your ass up some hill to ski some two week old rock strewn slush count as double-pwn3ing anybody?

[Spicoli]

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64793 - reference.:D

I dunno. sure looks like CO is goin off right now.:gomer:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l19/iskibc/sleds.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l19/iskibc/iskibc3.jpg

credits to those who slay.

[Ankf00]

utard == pwn3d.

this thread shall henceforth be recorded in lore as "thread of pwnage" :D




btw, if it's nothing but rock strewn slush, well, then it looks like I'm going freeriding on them slopes now don't it?

http://www.ridetheshore.com/images/photo_3.jpg

:cool:

[cameraman]

dunno. sure looks like CO is goin off right now.:gomer:

Well it was sunny and 50-60 today and it will be the same for the rest of the week. You would be amazed how fast it turns to concrete this time of year.

The morning after the storm >>>>>>>>>> the week after the storm.

[Twisty Bits]

Let's get back to the fact that you have a loose connection at your starter. That's right, the red wire. Do you have a remote car starter?

[Spicoli]

Let's get back to the fact that you have a loose connection at your starter. That's right, the red wire. Do you have a remote car starter?

that may work in Canader, but I doubt it does in Tex-ard or U-tard.:eek:

Get back ta hatin!:thumbup:

[cart7]

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7296/vw0zi.jpg

[Spicoli]

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7296/vw0zi.jpg


You know that's why he bought the car anyway, riiiight?:yuck:

[Ankf00]

http://www.condomclub.com/Merchant2/graphics/Products/tn_anal_ese.gif

[devilmaster]

So is SeanO banned? Whats the diagnosis DocAnk?

[Joelski]

You are the proud owner of a blown fuse, or a bad relay in the power distibution block. That's where my nickle goes.

[Turn7]

I going with the theory that it had a Sony battery in it.

[Joelski]

I'll bet a dime it isn't the battery.

[Joelski]

So... What was the deficklety?

Aside the fact it's a VW, that is....



:D

[Ankf00]

By dead, I mean not enough power to start the car. He put his phone to the engine bay and it made the clicking sound that I was so familiar with when I used to valet cars.

I'll bet my posting priveliges for the next month that's what it is.

2 grounding points had corroded and come lose, f'ed up the electrical system

does it qualify for banishment? I'm uncertain, but vote "yes." :D


they tightened up whatever bolt was starting to back out causing rattling in the right rear suspension/wheel assy too, so all in all, not a totally worthless trip to the dealer.

[Sean O'Gorman]

:thumbup: :thumbup:

[Wheel-Nut]

I vote to ban both of them . . .Sean just because and Ank for not lying.

[Ankf00]

I vote to ban both of them . . .Sean just because and Ank for not lying.

:confused:

[G.]

I vote to ban both of them . . .Sean just because and Ank for not lying.
:rofl: :laugh:

[Andrew Longman]

Bad grounding points does not equal a dead battery. You could hook the car to Three Mile Island and it will not start without a ground.

So SeanO was wrong.

Gene, tell him what he's won...:D

[Twisty Bits]

I was close. What do I win?

[racer2c]

I was close. What do I win?

A date with Sean O. :)

[Ankf00]

it was a defective battery, notice the time stamp of my edit vs. the time stamp for wheel-nut's post ;)

[ChampcarShark]

I vote to ban both of them . . .Sean just because and Ank for not lying.


Nope, just let them hug and make up.

[Al Czervik]

A little late to the party, but...

A Vee Dub with an electrical problem? Who'd a thunk it. (ex Corrado owner)