View Full Version : FKNA! Take this all you gomerz
Spicoli
12-19-06, 06:21 PM
all rights belong to this guy: nice post too.
http://www.wrxatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10854
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/-1.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/-2.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/-3.jpg
They are going to be Delivered to CCWS owners tomorrow at 10 (or so they say) I'll try to get ovewr there and snap some fotos if they let me.
Those mirrors will never...
Hey! Where's the damn mirrors?!?
(cool pics!)
Pretty convincing holograms. ;)
Ya i posted them also over at Dolans....awesome pics that they are!!
Spicoli
12-19-06, 06:24 PM
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/-4.jpg
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/-5.jpg
Hammer this you spoiled little baby. :hate:
http://i11.tinypic.com/43faus4.gif
That last pic is of an A1gP car..it has a triangular air intake!!
Wheel-Nut
12-19-06, 06:26 PM
It will never turn a wheel. :laugh:
Spicoli
12-19-06, 06:26 PM
That last pic is of an A1 car..it has a triangular air intake!!
doh! was busy wackin off, didn;t see that. ;)
:D
SurfaceUnits
12-19-06, 06:39 PM
hahaha, y'all go to all that trouble and in a few months the cap'n and Toney will just take them off yer hands in the fire sale. cause you know, toney demanded they be tested on super spedways before he would approve them. [/media insider]
pferrf1
12-19-06, 06:44 PM
Varied collection of rubber too. Looks like hte teams sent down some wheels for the 'rollers'.
ferrarigod
12-19-06, 06:47 PM
Pretty convincing holograms. ;)
Bigger hologram conspiracy than September 11th.
The cars may be, just may be, real. But those wheels don't turn and neither will the series.
No one is there to answer the bell.
audi quattro
12-19-06, 07:07 PM
those sidepods look different from the test mule.
from the air intake rounding to the side has a new piece.
ferrarigod
12-19-06, 07:08 PM
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/-6.jpg
DP01 cooling. With an intake. Is this the DP01.b Indy special?
The guy says European prototype, but come on, who believes some dude with vaporware pix.
Don Quixote
12-19-06, 07:34 PM
Where's the sponsor decals? :crickets: That's what I thought. :gomer:
Spicoli
12-19-06, 07:35 PM
Where's the sponsor decals? :crickets: That's what I thought. :gomer:
Cedric bought them all.
pferrf1
12-19-06, 07:37 PM
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/-6.jpg
DP01 cooling. With an intake. Is this the DP01.b Indy special?
The guy says European prototype, but come on, who believes some dude with vaporware pix.
IIRC - A1GP is supposed to have a new car, with another 150 HP engine in 2008 - if they make it that long.
SurfaceUnits
12-19-06, 07:38 PM
champcar wasted their money because this car will never lay a wheel on the INDIANAPOLIS MOTOR SPEEDWAY:rofl:
Nice camber! I like the black one!:gomer:
Steve99
12-19-06, 08:12 PM
Wow, those are some really cool pics. :cool:
Varied collection of rubber too. Looks like hte teams sent down some wheels for the 'rollers'.
I heard that the teams were supposed to send their own wheels. I hadn't considered the tires.
Christmas came early this year. :)
racermike
12-19-06, 08:25 PM
Beautiful!
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/ratgar/Applause.gif
Audi_A4
12-19-06, 08:45 PM
when is the 1st race?
jonovision_man
12-19-06, 09:10 PM
IIRC - A1GP is supposed to have a new car, with another 150 HP engine in 2008 - if they make it that long.
Lola most likely.
jono
Hey! Where's the damn mirrors?!?
(cool pics!)
what are these "mirrors" you speak of?
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http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/-6.jpg
DP01 cooling. With an intake. Is this the DP01.b Indy special?
The guy says European prototype, but come on, who believes some dude with vaporware pix.
I've been looking at this pic very carefully and compared it to other Formulas and as far as I can surmise, this colling could only be for two chassis's. It looks very much like a GP2 car but Elan's is not listed has the GP2 manufacturer. The only other chassis I can see this for is the super Oval version of the DP01. It does have wing-lets attached which is f1ish in style.
Very odd indeed!
ferrarigod
12-20-06, 12:51 AM
I've been looking at this pic very carefully and compared it to other Formulas and as far as I can surmise, this colling could only be for two chassis's. It looks very much like a GP2 car but Elan's is not listed has the GP2 manufacturer. The only other chassis I can see this for is the super Oval version of the DP01. It does have wing-lets attached which is f1ish in style.
Very odd indeed!
It also appears to have some sort of exhaust ahead of the wing flick up that comes off the back of the sidepod.
Which one would assume is for natural aspiration based on the close proximity to the engine.
Lots of questions, few answers. Sidepods shape and intake are very A1GP, but I see a lot of EARL as well. The way the sidepod decreases width is very much like the current cars. I'm interested to say the least.
It also appears to have some sort of exhaust ahead of the wing flick up that comes off the back of the sidepod.
Which one would assume is for natural aspiration based on the close proximity to the engine.
Lots of questions, few answers. Sidepods shape and intake are very A1GP, but I see a lot of EARL as well. The way the sidepod decreases width is very much like the current cars. I'm interested to say the least.
I originally thought it was A1gp but on close examination i'm not convinced, the air intake spine is completely different on this colling. there is no dorsal fin along its length as there is on the A1 cars.
I here that this pic has now been removed from the site which leads me to believe this is CCWS top secret stuff that it wasn't for our eyes!!! Thus a B version would seem plausable.
ferrarigod
12-20-06, 01:15 AM
I here that this pic has now been removed from the site which leads me to believe this is CCWS top secret stuff that it wasn't for our eyes!!! Thus a B version would seem plausable.
Well that sure is interesting. Too bad for those that wanted it removed, that the hyperlink is still working and the pic is saved on my harddrive:D His post has been cut of the pic and the description of a 'eu based race chassis that is under wraps.'
Did we hit a softspot with someone at ChampCar or Elan??????:eek:
:confused:
Opposite Lock
12-20-06, 01:16 AM
hmmm... an adaptable cowling carbon fiber mould system.
airbox option:
gill style:
flugel swoopiness (1-5):
nose height (L-M-H):
:tony:
Well that sure is interesting. Too bad for those that wanted it removed, that the hyperlink is still working and the pic is saved on my harddrive:D His post has been cut of the pic and the description of a 'eu based race chassis that is under wraps.'
Did we hit a softspot with someone at ChampCar or Elan??????:eek:
:confused:
It would seem so!;)
No right side buckeye on the painted phantom chassis. Not needed for ovals but certainly needed for some street/road course tracks.
ferrarigod
12-20-06, 01:29 AM
No right side buckeye on the painted phantom chassis. Not needed for ovals but certainly needed for some street/road course tracks.
good catch.:thumbup:
most F1/EU tracks are clockwise meaning the pit is on the right. This seems more clearly made for some sort of American oval . . .
mergificationwagon?
Winston Wolfe
12-20-06, 02:06 AM
Nice work, Spicoli !:thumbup:
My first thought when I saw the pic of all of them in formation on the outside of the building was the scene from "Apocolyse Now" as the choppers fly down the beach playing the "Ride of the Valkyries" at full blast....
That song would be most appropriate as these bad boys head out on the track (with suitable tires, no less) and having Valkyries blaring with the volume up to 11 would be epic....
and oh yeah, leave 'em all painted black.....;)
"death from above".... (or the side, as it would be)
Compare those bad boys, unpainted and fresh out of the autoclave, to the pig they are runnin' in the Gomerville 500 :tony: with their fart car\ bee stinger motors and tell me what ya think ?
I'll take the time to thank KK once again, when I see him at LBGP this year !:cool:
SurfaceUnits
12-20-06, 02:25 AM
hahaha, those are shop'ed photos. The guy works for Racer magazine.
Over the top of the air intake, is that the nose cone on the table?
They look great.:thumbup: :)
good catch.:thumbup:
most F1/EU tracks are clockwise meaning the pit is on the right. This seems more clearly made for some sort of American oval . . .
How about some Euro ladder series that doesn't require mid race refueling in a hot pit? Does the Renault series need a new chassis perchance?
There is also a diffuser at the rear of the bodywork, the sidepods don't look wide enough for a ground effects car, it has trendy F1 like chimneys to extract air after the radiators, and that pointy high nose could poke somebody's eye out.
Any pics (renderings) of the "failed" CC Lola design? Somebody might want to use it.
jonovision_man
12-20-06, 10:14 AM
No right side buckeye on the painted phantom chassis. Not needed for ovals but certainly needed for some street/road course tracks.
It's not a complete chassis, do they maybe cut that in later?
Looks like an IRL sled IMO.
jono
scorpion
12-20-06, 11:17 AM
IIRC - A1GP is supposed to have a new car, with another 150 HP engine in 2008 - if they make it that long.
That should be the new irl car. It's a heck of a lot better looking than what they have now.
Christmas is a bit early for the Champ Car teams:
http://www.champcarworldseries.com/content/photos/2006/By400/20061220P_0001.jpg
http://www.champcarworldseries.com/content/photos/2006/By400/20061220P_0003.jpg
There is a Santa Claus after all!!!! This SOLID proof! :cool:
CC's doing this the right way. Outside of F1, where the launch of a new chassis is a huge event, when was the last time a new race car in the US has attracted this much attention? Sure, its a lot of hype, but that's something that's been missing in the series for years. :thumbup:
Just like Christmas in the G. household. I get many gifts, all wrapped up nice and neat, that I have already paid for myself...:\
Odd.... The Star sent Cavein (http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061220/SPORTS01/612200509) to cover this and not Ballard. ;)
Don Quixote
12-20-06, 02:03 PM
Sanity Clause looks a little skinny there. Surely that can't be a Hooser thing. :)
ferrarigod
12-20-06, 02:04 PM
Sanity Clause looks a little skinny there. Surely that can't be a Hooser thing. :)
That's KK inside the Santa outfit. He looks ligther cause his wallet isn't so big now that he has to buy everyone and their cousin a new race car and give them new engines.
ChampcarShark
12-20-06, 02:27 PM
Look ma .... No mirrors !!!!!!!
Racing Truth
12-20-06, 03:00 PM
It's not a complete chassis, do they maybe cut that in later?
Looks like an IRL sled IMO.
jono
It does indeed, but that opens some interesting questions. If it is an IRL chassis, is Panoz/Elan/whatever its called going to have real IRL customers? Are they actually going to do something to become compettitive again in IRL? If so, did CC know this was Panoz's plan all along and how does Anton feel about this?
Of course, if it isn't an IRL sled...;) Put it this way, its not a "European variation.";)
BTW: If these cars (DP01) are all vaporware, well, me likey the Vaporware.:thumbup:
Racing Truth
12-20-06, 03:06 PM
Lola most likely.
jono
OK, so Lola's doing the '08 A1GP car (heh, like it'll be around then:laugh: )?
Well, I think you're right, the pic looks like an IRL sled. How that got in here though is a different matter.
Racing Truth
12-20-06, 03:10 PM
How about some Euro ladder series that doesn't require mid race refueling in a hot pit? Does the Renault series need a new chassis perchance?
There is also a diffuser at the rear of the bodywork, the sidepods don't look wide enough for a ground effects car, it has trendy F1 like chimneys to extract air after the radiators, and that pointy high nose could poke somebody's eye out.
Dunno, but to the naked eye, it looks, how to put this, too sophisticated for a feeder series. Logical guess says IRL sled, though I'd be surprised if it is new.
devilmaster
12-20-06, 04:00 PM
It's not a complete chassis, do they maybe cut that in later?
I was wondering about that. On the CC sleds, you see the seams where pieces like the engine cowling and diffusers are put on.
This 'phantom' sled seems to be in one complete piece. I'm starting to think it's a photoshop.
ferrarigod
12-20-06, 04:07 PM
I was wondering about that. On the CC sleds, you see the seams where pieces like the engine cowling and diffusers are put on.
This 'phantom' sled seems to be in one complete piece. I'm starting to think it's a photoshop.
It's not. It was posted with the other pictures. It also referred to it as a yet to be announced prototype for a European based series.
After that picture and the description was posted here and elsewhere, the pic and description went missing. I still have the link as you can tell and I already saved all the pictures. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo... I doubt its a 'shop.
OK, so Lola's doing the '08 A1GP car (heh, like it'll be around then:laugh: )?
Well, I think you're right, the pic looks like an IRL sled. How that got in here though is a different matter.
That would be the IRL sled to alienate the last of the gomers. :tony: CART 2.80b and all that. :D
Racing Truth
12-20-06, 04:15 PM
I was wondering about that. On the CC sleds, you see the seams where pieces like the engine cowling and diffusers are put on.
This 'phantom' sled seems to be in one complete piece. I'm starting to think it's a photoshop.
1. It's a solid 'shop if it is one.
2. Why would the gentleman who posted the others also post a 'shop?
3. The thread in question has now been edited entirely (no pics on said thread). Why?
4. Leaving conspiracy land, what European (feeder?) series could the phantom sled (if it exists) be for?
cameraman
12-20-06, 04:15 PM
This 'phantom' sled seems to be in one complete piece.
I think the guy was telling the truth, it looks like a mock up of a new na car.
Whose na car is the question.
Racing Truth
12-20-06, 04:22 PM
Maybe new thread time, but can someone name non-F1 Euro-based OW series? This might get very obscure here.
Well, it could be GP2 I suppose. In fact, that sorta makes sense (NA and all). Beyond that, :confused:
SurfaceUnits
12-20-06, 05:32 PM
It's a GP2 prototype, the dallara contract is up. Looking at the few GP2 car pics that can be found on the www, it doesn't appear that they are configured for hot pit fueling. No buckeye on either side.
Spicoli
12-20-06, 06:46 PM
btw - front page 0 the indystar right now. :laugh:
www.indystar.com
click on linky and feel free to leave comments. :p
It's a GP2 prototype, the dallara contract is up. Looking at the few GP2 car pics that can be found on the www, it doesn't appear that they are configured for hot pit fueling. No buckeye on either side.
It's too bad the pic has been withdrawn for comparison but I'm starting to believe it was a GP2 prototype design for 2008. Here's the 2007 Gp2 prototype unveiled by Dallara:
http://www.gp2series.com/Images/600_2007%20car%20Ricard_tcm2-10093.jpg
Notice the similarities to the Elan cowling. There are F1 like wing-lets and exhaust pipes on the side pods just like on the elan cowling image. There is no fuel port on the right side also. But I believe GP2 doesn't refuel during races anyways which would account for this.
The only real noticeable difference between the two is that the Dallara has a dorsal fin design behind the air intake port whereas the Elan design has a moulded/rounded design.
I think it is a prototype for a 2008 GP2 bid.
ferrarigod
12-20-06, 07:54 PM
It's too bad the pic has been withdrawn for comparison but I'm starting to believe it was a GP2 prototype design for 2008. Here's the 2007 Gp2 prototype unveiled by Dallara:
http://www.gp2series.com/Images/600_2007%20car%20Ricard_tcm2-10093.jpg
Notice the similarities to the Elan cowling. There are F1 like wing-lets and exhaust pipes on the side pods just like on the elan cowling image. There is no fuel port on the right side also. But I believe GP2 doesn't refuel during races anyways which would account for this.
The only real noticeable difference between the two is that the Dallara has a dorsal fin design behind the air intake port whereas the Elan design has a moulded/rounded design.
I think it is a prototype for a 2008 GP2 bid.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m157/GPJamesMVT/-6.jpg
If that doesn't work for you, here is the one I saved on my comp and just uploaded to imageshack.
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2117/6mi2.jpg
Thanks ferrarigod:thumbup: that helps buddy.
BTW, the winglets if you ask me would cause more problems on a super ovals at the speeds that the cars run at and I can't see them being used on an IRL car.
Racing Truth
12-20-06, 08:03 PM
It's a GP2 prototype, the dallara contract is up. Looking at the few GP2 car pics that can be found on the www, it doesn't appear that they are configured for hot pit fueling. No buckeye on either side.
OK, that settles it. And apex is right. The prototype is very similar in design to the current chassis.
I understand its just one prototype, but I'm a bit surprised they've gone to the trouble of building one for '08. Then again, for F1's premier feeder series, you can't be too careful.
Anyway, back to this thread's real purpose, the backtracking from the TF crowd is hilarious. They simply cannot admit the truth: They've been pwn3d.
And you know, I like the DP01's even more as I see more of them.
I like the DP01's even more as I see more of them.And that, my friends, is the (racing) truth!:thumbup:
TKGAngel
12-20-06, 09:46 PM
http://www.champcarworldseries.com/content/photos/2006/By800/20061220P_0002.jpg
I want a Champ Car for Christmas! :)
Spicoli
12-20-06, 09:52 PM
http://www.champcarworldseries.com/content/photos/2006/By800/20061220P_0002.jpg
I want a Champ Car for Christmas! :)
looks like PT done got one.:D
You mean Elan would build a car in the US for GP2 or is that just where the grunt work is being done? (or is that the European division? I don't know how the co. is structured.) They're entering a competing design in hopes of beating out Dallara? Can't even imagine a Renault powered Euro series coming to the US for a car. I will say this (again), just because a car is NA with a box doesn't mean it's ugly. Even the GP Masters machine looks to be all race car. I'm easy, I guess. PT looks pretty good in a red fire suit and beard.
You mean Elan would build a car in the US for GP2 or is that just where the grunt work is being done? (or is that the European division? I don't know how the co. is structured.) They're entering a competing design in hopes of beating out Dallara? Can't even imagine a Renault powered Euro series coming to the US for a car. I will say this (again), just because a car is NA with a box doesn't mean it's ugly. Even the GP Masters machine looks to be all race car. I'm easy, I guess. PT looks pretty good in a red fire suit and beard.
Elan Motorsports technologies has a division in europe
btw - front page 0 the indystar right now. :laugh:
www.indystar.com
click on linky and feel free to leave comments. :p
Boy...Paff is some goober ;)
btw - front page 0 the indystar right now. :laugh:
www.indystar.com
click on linky and feel free to leave comments. :p
Just posted a comment there now!:D ;)
Spicoli
12-21-06, 05:02 AM
Dancile is looking for a real man. ;)
SurfaceUnits
12-21-06, 06:04 AM
Dancile is looking for a real man. ;)
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trauma1
12-28-06, 02:54 PM
winglets on a oval chassis would be of no advantage, this has to be a GP2 or the new A1 car, or new masterseries chassis, it's definatly a road course chassis not a oval chassis, but i bet someone got into hot water over this photo
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