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coolhand
02-16-07, 10:27 PM
http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=23758
Since the NCAA came up with the D-1A/D-1AA designations, only 7 teams have never played a D-1AA opponent:
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
UCLA
USC
Washington
Cal left that list in '05 (Sac St), and now both Ohio State (Youngstown St) and Michigan (Appalachian St) will this season.
UM has 6 Home Games, OSU 6
Appalachian State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVENWl8uBeg&eurl=
Sean O'Gorman
02-16-07, 11:13 PM
Youngstown State? Go Horizon League! :laugh:
coolhand
02-16-07, 11:32 PM
Meanwhile at Cal, their stadium upgrade efforts are moving right along
http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/email/news/16713012.htm
UC plan to quash sit-in turns protest to festival
BERKELEY: Police threaten to erect fence to keep would-be tree saviors from their roost
By Kristin Bender
MEDIANEWS STAFF
BERKELEY - Realizing their tree-sitting days might be numbered, a few dozen people took turns Thursday climbing up the ladder, wielding the bullhorn and dangling their legs from the plywood platform, wedged between one of the threatened oak trees.
“Is our town going to be Berkeley or is it going to be UC Berkeley?” said Berkeley resident Phoebe Anne Sorgen, who climbed into the trees yesterday. “This issue is a symbol of that.”
http://dailycal.org/images/art/02.16.oaks.HIATT%20copy.jpg
Napoleon
02-17-07, 08:37 AM
Youngstown State? Go Horizon League! :laugh:
Hey, I went to Youngstown State!
coolhand
02-21-07, 08:51 PM
http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=15#S=15&F=1720&T=144582
BERKELEY
Tree-sitters say site might be burial ground
Human skeleton was found there in 1923, but origin unknown
I thought this thread would be about Jim Delany's (Big 10 comimissioner) apologetic rant about how the Big 10 shouldn't panic in the wake of OSU's beatdown and the abysmal Big 10 recruiting "efforts". :)
Link to letter (http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020907aaa.html)
This really gets me -
I wish we had six teams among the top 10 recruiting classes every year, but winning our way requires some discipline and restraint with the recruitment process. Not every athlete fits athletically, academically or socially at every university.
WTF??? UF's academics are way better than OSU's... see this:
Quick Youtube Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFwERRJOl_E)
UF #2 public institution, OSU #79.
I seem to recall a Plaxico Burress who couldn't get into an SEC school but was accepted to Michigan State.
This reads like something you'd find on a forum, not something you'd expect from the commissioner of the most powerful conference. :gomer:
Lastly, from Jim Delany (who, BTW is the biggest roadblock to a football playoff):
The Big Ten was 2-1 vs. the SEC in this past season's bowl games.
Yeah, but they got blown out in the one that mattered and lost the other 4 they played in.
Uber lastly:
I love speed and the SEC has great speed, especially on the defensive line...
Bwahahaha... honk if you sacked Troy Smith. :D
Sean O'Gorman
02-22-07, 12:18 PM
http://sportsargumentwiki.com/index.php?title=SEC
The Society of Ethical Cheaters, a semi-pro American football league located in the deep south. As mandated by section 7.12B of conference by-laws, every school with the exception of Vanderbilt is required to pay its players. Another section is rumored to mandate that every team in the conference have either a tiger or wildcat for a mascot.
:laugh: et tu SOG !
Hey, at least we are "Ethical" cheaters.
WTF??? UF's academics are way better than OSU's... see this:
Quick Youtube Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFwERRJOl_E)
UF #2 public institution, OSU #79.
The Kiplinger report is a "value" report, not an academic quality report. UF got it's ranking mainly through cheap tuition. I guess the quality isn't quite good enough for UF folks to be able to distinguish the difference.
As for the rest, whatever, you're doing pretty well when #2 is a dissapointment.
:honk:
:D
Whatchutalkin about #13?
Whatchutalkin about #13?
we finished the job last year. I believe 13-0 is the number you were thinking of :p
we finished the job last year. I believe 13-0 is the number you were thinking of :p
"Last year" being the key phrase.
"Last year" being the key phrase.
we have a crystal football thanks to our badass.
yours decided to curl into the fetal position after earning 86 yards through 4 quarters :gomer:
The Kiplinger report is a "value" report, not an academic quality report. UF got it's ranking mainly through cheap tuition.
Didn't know the metrics the Kiplinger report uses... :o
It is a great value as my tuition was 1/10 what my wife paid for tuition.
I guess the quality isn't quite good enough for UF folks to be able to distinguish the difference.
OUCH...
we have a crystal football thanks to our badass.
yours decided to curl into the fetal position after earning 86 yards through 4 quarters :gomer:
Actually 82 yards...
we have a crystal football thanks to our badass.
Yeah, we've got a bunch of those things gathering dust. How long are they good for?
Actually 82 yards...
:D
HEIS MAN!
...and with that, peace out bitches. :)
Big 10 Bitterness (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=dw-delany021707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)
I'll just copy and quote as I majored in plagiarism at UF... :gomer:
In a statement more loaded than Florida's recruiting class, Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany this week claimed that when it comes to procuring football players his league is more ethical and academically minded than the Southeastern Conference.
Here's what it sounded like he was saying: His league won't compromise its supposed high academic standards to sign a bunch of fast, dumb guys, especially at a position that in the SEC is overwhelmingly played by blacks.
That, apparently, is one reason the SEC signed seven of the top 10 classes nationally according to Rivals.com, the Big Ten got none and Delany lost his mind.
"I love speed and the SEC has great speed, especially on the defensive line, but there are appropriate balances when mixing academics and athletics," wrote Delany on the Big Ten website.
Forty-two of the 48 defensive linemen who started in the final week of SEC play were African-American. Of the 61 defensive line recruits the SEC signed last week, 51 were African-American. Just 23 of 43 Big Ten starters at those positions were black.
and...
Finally, where did he get the idea that his league is some bastion of morality and academic purity?
Since Delany took over as commissioner in 1989, the NCAA has hit Big Ten schools 17 separate times for major rule violations, a humiliating average of nearly one cheat per year.
That total doesn't even include two separate point-shaving scandals at Northwestern.
However, it does feature a couple for the record books – Michigan basketball featured the largest monetary amount (an estimated $600,000) and Minnesota basketball produced arguably the worst academic fraud case where a tutor (she must have been a very slow athlete) wrote 400 papers for the players.
Then, of course, there was Maurice Clarett, who if Delany is correct about intelligence and speed, is a shoo-in for gold at the 2008 Olympics – if he can get furloughed, of course.
According to the NCAA's Academic Progress Rate, the SEC's average football score (941.7) is notably better than the Big Ten (931.2). The national average is 929, a number that the majority of the Big Ten (six teams) scored below. Only three of SEC's teams were under.
The article goes on to point out that the SEC has been caught a record 21 times since 1989 and that is something I'm not proud of.
But lest we assume Delany is a racist, he might reveal:
as one blogger put it, "some of his best friends are fast." :D
Making aspersions of racism over recruiting numbers is beyond idiocy. The SEC's region of the country has substantially more blacks both by percentage and total number.
I guess there are quite a few assumptions one could make as to why Delany apparently equates speed with low academic performance. Race was one angle the author of the yahoo sports article I quoted took. Idiotic or not, I guess by getting people to read his article, he is doing his job.
In defense of the author, Delany was asked to clarify his statements and was not "made available."
I think the biggest question is why is the most powerful man in college sports would write such a petty open letter. I guess the intent was to placate those members of his constituency not as level-headed as you.
We can let it go and stay on topic... yo coolhand, are those Berkeley hippies still in that tree? :D
http://www.mgoblue.com/document_display.cfm?document_id=23758
Since the NCAA came up with the D-1A/D-1AA designations, only 7 teams have never played a D-1AA opponent:
Notre Dame
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
UCLA
USC
Washington
Cal left that list in '05 (Sac St), and now both Ohio State (Youngstown St) and Michigan (Appalachian St) will this season.
UM has 6 Home Games, OSU 6
Appalachian State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVENWl8uBeg&eurl=
Just to 'splain the OSU stance (as has been discussed locally), they already have 2 instate MAC schools on the schedule of '07 and '08, which only leaves the DII instate schools to play. Tress also wanted to throw a bone to the school for which he formerly coached. Plus, the decision to add the 12th game was made so recently, it was difficult to schedule games against other IA schools in a timely manner. YSU is on the schedule for '07 and '08, but the '09 schedule contains all IA schools, and '10 has only one opening on it in mid-season. My guess is that this won't be a trend, as the other instate choices are UD and CSU for DII fodder, and everyone knows that CSU peeps wear skirts.... :D
-Kevin
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