baseball 07

[devilmaster]

http://adm6.udmercy.edu/~mitchejr/voiceoftheturtle.mp3

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[Andrew Longman]

Watching Yankees Opening Day as we speak.:D

Yanks up 2-0 top of the 2nd.

[Racing Truth]

I'm projecting a 162-0 for the Tribe.:gomer:

11-2 Wahoos in 3rd.:thumbup:

[Tim]

Brewers up 7-1 going into the bottom of the 7th. Only Dodger hit so far has been a solo shot by Jeff Kent.

[dando]

Watching Yankees Opening Day as we speak.:D

Yanks up 2-0 top of the 2nd.

Yer gonna see alotta games like this one this season.

-Kevin

[dando]

Brewers up 7-1 going into the bottom of the 7th. Only Dodger hit so far has been a solo shot by Jeff Kent.

Let's compare records around the All * break. :D

-Kevin

[Ankf00]

Watching Yankees Opening Day as we speak.:D

Yanks up 2-0 top of the 2nd.

Yanquis!

Texas Baseball, #6 in nation, #3 RPI, 4 year win streak vs. Rice, projected #3 national seed http://www2.hornfans.com/wwwthreads/images/icons/hookem.gif

:gomer:


'stros in 2hr 50min. Roy O will burninate the peoples. :flame:

[ChampcarShark]

Go Rattlesnakes !!!!

ooops I mean Diamondbacks !!!!!!!!

[Andrew Longman]

Yer gonna see alotta games like this one this season.

-Kevin

Final: NYY 9 - TB 5 :thumbup:

Yankees will score 1000 runs this season.

The question is will the starting pitching allow 1001?

Too bad Bernie can't pitch better than Povano

[Easy]

sCrUBS off to another lightning start. I wonder who Sam Zell has lined up to buy them.

[Audi_A4]

Blue JAYS will win it all this year :gomer:

[Sean O'Gorman]

Win or lose, at least the Indians satisfy my horrific ADHD with the usual 17 run game.

[IlliniRacer]

sCrUBS off to another lightning start.

Seems only fitting:
"Mah nishtanah halaileh hazeh michol halailot, michol halailot?"

[Insomniac]

No BoSox game here. KC on RSTN, which is not on DirecTV. :flame:

[TrueBrit]

sCrUBS off to another lightning start. I wonder who Sam Zell has lined up to buy them.

I believe this is the earliest the Cubs have been eliminated from post-season play....

[Ankf00]

lidge chokes again :shakehead

[Dr. Corkski]

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6408/capt4fa0bb1f570540abb01yz7.jpg

$126 million well spent. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Barry Zito sucks.

[dando]

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6408/capt4fa0bb1f570540abb01yz7.jpg

$126 million well spent. :rofl:

Barry Zito sucks.

Now that he's on the Gints, I finally agree with Cork on this subject. :gomer:

-Kevin

[IlliniRacer]

Ted "Freakin" Lilly

SWEET!!!

[cameraman]

It is a wonderful thing watching the Mets stuff St Louis 10-0 to sweep the opening series.

[Dr. Corkski]

Ted "Freakin" Lilly

SWEET!!!Easily the biggest mistake Billy Beane made as a GM. The A's would have been a legit World Series contender instead of missing the playoffs had he not kept the worst pitcher in MLB history and traded Lilly for a backup outfielder.

[Andrew Longman]

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/6408/capt4fa0bb1f570540abb01yz7.jpg

$126 million well spent.

Barry Zito sucks.

Don't worry too much. Some how, some way the Yankees will wind up with that contract.:shakehead

[TravelGal]

On the positive side, I have to give a shout out to "my Padres" for creaming the Giants on openng day. Listening to Ted Leitner chortling as he announced the game was a real treat. With any luck, Maddox has settled down Peavy and there should be some goooooooooood pitching. Trevor already has his first save from game #2.

On the other side of the local coin, Shouse was nearly perfect in squashing those Dodgers on opening day. Couldn't happen to a nicer group.

[Insomniac]

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[Ankf00]

Don't worry too much. Some how, some way the Yankees will wind up with that contract.:shakehead

:(

[Insomniac]

Don't worry too much. Some how, some way the Yankees will wind up with that contract.:shakehead

Could they take J.D. Drew's too? :gomer:

[Andrew Longman]

Could they take J.D. Drew's too? :gomer:


Please not yet. But it looks like Damen is headed for the DL after less than one game so it could be soon. If it didn't involve Boston and the Yanks were 3 games out in July it would be a done deal.;)

[Sean O'Gorman]

Leave it to the Indians to find a way to make Pierzynski getting hit by a pitch not a good thing. :shakehead

Home opener in 7 1/2 hrs :thumbup:

[chop456]

It was the sixth time in the last six seasons that Pierzynski was hit by a pitch with the bases loaded :p :thumbup:

[cameraman]

The Bees win. Game winning double in the bottom of the ninth.
It's nice when the home opener is a good game.

[Ankf00]

GO 'STROS!!

0-162. I believe!

[dando]

The return of Grover in 7 1/2 hrs :thumbup:

There. I fixed that for ya, SOG. :gomer:

-Kevin

[Sean O'Gorman]

Ehh, it doesn't matter. Stu didn't come through with a ticket.

"Yeah, theres no way Megan will want to go, its too cold"

"sorry, we asked Megan if she wanted to go and she said yeah"

:gomer: :gomer:

[dando]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2826484


All of the Dodgers will wear No. 42 on the anniversary of Jackie Robinson breaking into the big leagues.

:thumbup: :thumbup:

-Kevin

[dando]

Ehh, it doesn't matter. Stu didn't come through with a ticket.

"Yeah, theres no way Megan will want to go, its too cold"

"sorry, we asked Megan if she wanted to go and she said yeah"

:gomer: :gomer:

Better for you anyway. WTF anyone would want to sit through that s**** is beyond me. Pull up a beer, sit back and relax....it's a balmy 72 inside the homizzle, yo. :thumbup:

EDIT: I can't believe they're playing this game. Delayed to begin with and now stopped again due to white-out conditions. :shakehead

-Kevin

[Sean O'Gorman]

Are you kidding???

How many chances in a lifetime do you get to attend a game like this? I've sat through colder at Mid-Ohio for an entire day of racing, a baseball game is nothing.

[Insomniac]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2826484



:thumbup: :thumbup:

-Kevin

Kudos to MLB. No way the NFL would allow such a thing.

[Sean O'Gorman]

I'd imagine its a little easier to play a baseball game with everyone wearing the same number than it is to do football with everyone as #42.

[Insomniac]

I'd imagine its a little easier to play a baseball game with everyone wearing the same number than it is to do football with everyone as #42.

You are right, but the NFL is filled with examples of them not letting players honor anything. They fined Jake Plummer for having a "42" decal on his helmet to honor Pat Tillman. They wouldn't let Peyton Manning wear black hightops to honor Johnny Unitas. They wouldn't let some players wear a 27 jersey to honor Darrent Williams at the Pro Bowl where players wear their number and the same number is on multiple players.

[Stu]

I am freaking pissed.

1 strike away from a win and these stupid umps argue with Hargrove long enough til we get another white out.

Then after an hour and a half delay, they call the game and reschedule it as a double header tomorrow.

Hmmmm...... let's see what tomorrow has in store for us.

At 1pm - 29 degrees and snow

At 7pm - 29 degrees and snow

Snow has never kept me away but I'm so pissed now I'm just gonna turn my tickets in for a game later in the year.

[Ankf00]

turn yoiur tickets in **** sucker.

you ****ing sold out your bro for some ****ing hardball ticks. how ****ing pathetic is that?


enjoy your 0-162'ness.

[Napoleon]

I went to the Indian's home opener and hope to post pictures, but it was like nothing I have seen. The best part was during a snow delay someone running out on the field and doing snow angels before he was arrested.

[Stu]

turn yoiur tickets in **** sucker.

you ****ing sold out your bro for some ****ing hardball ticks. how ****ing pathetic is that?


enjoy your 0-162'ness.

first, unlike your stros, the indians have actually won a game this year.

second, i told ogorman a ticket would likely be available because the women wouldn't want to go due to the snow. they still wanted to go, which eliminated the extra ticket. it was 20 degrees and snowy, I think it would have been pretty easy to buy one on the street for 10 bucks.

[Stu]

I went to the Indian's home opener and hope to post pictures, but it was like nothing I have seen. The best part was during a snow delay someone running out on the field and doing snow angels before he was arrested.

i've never seen someone dancing in handcuffs before, but sure enough he was.

hmm lets see:

4pm game + bars surrounding stadium + 1 hour delayed start + multiple snow delays = drunken snow angels in right field.

[IlliniRacer]

i've never seen someone dancing in handcuffs before,

Ho hum. Go to a White Sox game, its part of the between innings festivites

[Sean O'Gorman]

turn yoiur tickets in **** sucker.

you ****ing sold out your bro for some ****ing hardball ticks. how ****ing pathetic is that?


enjoy your 0-162'ness.

It wasn't Stu's fault that is other friend is a moron. You'd think six years as a communications major and they guy could come up with something better than "hey its going to be 30 degrees out, do you want to go?" to keep someone from going. :laugh:

[Stu]

Ho hum. Go to a White Sox game, its part of the between innings festivites


"Folks, if you go to a White Sox game and don't partake in a fight, or at least see a fight, you haven't received your monies worth" - Indians radio announcer Tom Hamilton



Tom Hamiltion: "This year the White Sox are going to have a number of promotional nights for their fans celebrating their World Series victory. They'll be giving away replica rings, replica trophies, and many other items."

Matt Underwood: "When is brass knuckles night?"

[dando]

http://access.nscpcdn.com/fotosrch/3/20070406OHMD107.jpg

:gomer:

-Kevin

[dando]

I went to the Indian's home opener and hope to post pictures, but it was like nothing I have seen. The best part was during a snow delay someone running out on the field and doing snow angels before he was arrested.

http://access.nscpcdn.com/fotosrch/3/20070406_73394643GS022_Seattle_Marin_GTY.jpg


You don't live in Cleveland!

-Sam Wyche

Ummm, yeah, you do. ;) :gomer:

-Kevin

[Ankf00]

first, unlike your stros, the indians have actually won a game this year.

touche :(

[Napoleon]

Stu,

Where did you get those quotes from. They are hysterical (even when I watch the games on TV I listen to the radio to hear Hamilton).

[Stu]

Stu,

Where did you get those quotes from. They are hysterical (even when I watch the games on TV I listen to the radio to hear Hamilton).

It was all in-game commentary. The Brass Knuckles talk was from a spring training game in 2006, and the fighting in the stands comment was just from a random game in Chi-town in 2005 when Hammy saw a huge fight in the stands. I think Hamilton was even laughing because the fight was between 2 Sox fans, not with a Tribe fan.

[Napoleon]

It was all in-game commentary. The Brass Knuckles talk was from a spring training game in 2006, and the fighting in the stands comment was just from a random game in Chi-town in 2005 when Hammy saw a huge fight in the stands. I think Hamilton was even laughing because the fight was between 2 Sox fans, not with a Tribe fan.

What do you do, write them down and save them? ;)

[Sean O'Gorman]

I remember the first quote, from last year's opening series vs. the Sox. Also, brass knuckles night is every Tuesday, right?

[Dr. Corkski]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4215/fulljgetty73394681jj006it5.jpg

$126 million.

8.18 ERA.

0-2.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[devilmaster]

he's gone cork, and i'm happy yer happy. but ya just gotta let it go bud. :rofl:

[Napoleon]

Well they just said on the radio that they are moving the Indian's next several home games to Milwaukee because of the snow.

[Sean O'Gorman]

Milwaukee? Who is starting for the Tribe, Vaughn or Harris?

[Racing Truth]

Milwaukee? Who is starting for the Tribe, Vaughn or Harris?

:laugh: "Juuuussst a bit outside!"

Cerrano batting clean-up?

[Ankf00]

Jesus no help with curveball.

[dando]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4215/fulljgetty73394681jj006it5.jpg

$126 million.

8.18 ERA.

0-2.

:rofl:
Ya forgot that he struck out with the bases loaded and no outs. The Gints dint score a run either. :gomer:

-Kevin

[Stu]

Jesus no help with curveball.

are you saying jesus christ cant hit a curveball?

aww...christ harris lets not start a holy war.

[TKGAngel]

Hats for bats. Keep bats warm. Gracias. :)

Milwaukee's fans bought 10,000 tickets in the first four hours they were available. I guess you can't beat an MLB ticket for $10.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2830648

[Dr. Corkski]

Hats for bats. Keep bats warm. Gracias. :)

Milwaukee's fans bought 10,000 tickets in the first four hours they were available. I guess you can't beat an MLB ticket for $10.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2830648I don't blame them, it's the closest thing to Major League baseball they have seen in more than 10 years.

It's very bad to steal Jobu's rum.

[Sean O'Gorman]

Hearing the fans in Milwaukee cheering and booing like this is a home game is the oddest thing I've seen in long time. :saywhat:

[Ankf00]

Hearing the fans in Milwaukee cheering and booing like this is a home game is the oddest thing I've seen in long time. :saywhat:



I don't blame them, it's the closest thing to Major League baseball they have seen in more than 10 years.

It's very bad to steal Jobu's rum.

[dando]

The Tribe radio guys said they are expecting >20K tonight. Apparently the Brew Crew fans couldn't figger out the game started @ 7:05 EDT and are arriving late. :gomer:

Nice touch by the Tribe to fly John Adams and his drum to Milwaukee. :)

-Kevin

[dando]

Bottom of the 9th, up 6-2, 2 outs, none on. Yup, you guessed it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270419110

Borowski means inferno in Polish. :gomer:

-Kevin

[Ankf00]

YANQUIS!!!!!!


'Horns ranked #5, projected #1 national seed come Omaha :cool:

'stros over .500, 1 game out of first http://www2.hornfans.com/wwwthreads/images/icons/smokin.gif Carlos Lee FTW

[IlliniRacer]

Bottom of the 9th, up 6-2, 2 outs, none on. Yup, you guessed it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270419110

Borowski means inferno in Polish. :gomer:

-Kevin

Yep. As any Cub fan will tell you, his full name if Joe $#@%@#$%% Borowski.

[Racing Truth]

Bottom of the 9th, up 6-2, 2 outs, none on. Yup, you guessed it:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=270419110

Borowski means inferno in Polish. :gomer:

-Kevin

FJoe Borowski, eff Eric Wedge, and eff the Yankees.:flame: :flame: :cry:

[Insomniac]

YANQUIS!!!!!!


'Horns ranked #5, projected #1 national seed come Omaha :cool:

'stros over .500, 1 game out of first http://www2.hornfans.com/wwwthreads/images/icons/smokin.gif Carlos Lee FTW

Red Sox vs. Yankees kicks off tonight. Does A-Rod's bat go cold?

[Ankf00]

one roommate grew up in Manhattan, he's totally geeked about this weekend.

[dando]

A-Rod! :eek: He's up to 12 HRs in April, with more than a week to go to break Pujols MLB record of 14 HRs in a month. :eek:

-Kevin

[dando]

Mariano Rivera. :laugh:

Yankees suck, Yankees suck! :D

-Kevin

[RHR_Fan]

I know this is late, but I would have gone to see the Indians game at Milwaukee. $10? Hell yeah! There are seats that are $10 at Miller Park, but they're out in the boonies.

Speaking of the Brewers they're doing pretty well so far. They're staying consistent. And today I heard that this is the furthest in the season they have led their division since 1998! :eek:

~Nicole

[Insomniac]

A-Rod! :eek: He's up to 12 HRs in April, with more than a week to go to break Pujols MLB record of 14 HRs in a month. :eek:

-Kevin

Mr. April ;)

[dando]

Got bullpen?

Not NYY.

:gomer:

-Kevin

[TravelGal]

But you saw history today. 4 homers in a row from the same pitcher. Poor TravelGuy. He's a huge Yankee fan.

[racermike]

But you saw history today. 4 homers in a row from the same pitcher. Poor TravelGuy. He's a huge Yankee fan.

I was watching that and was FUN to watch, especially since I hate the Yankees.

[Insomniac]

But you saw history today. 4 homers in a row from the same pitcher. Poor TravelGuy. He's a huge Yankee fan.

At 3 HRs, I couldn't believe it, then 4, just wow. I was shocked and loved it!

[TravelGal]

I was watching that and was FUN to watch, especially since I hate the Yankees.

pssssssst: I'm not a fan either but don't tell TravelGuy. ;)

Felt a little sorry for the pitcher. Just called up from AA. You know they are hurting when they have already vaccuumed out the AAA teams.

[Ankf00]

missing 80% of your starting pitching will do that.

Congratulations to the eternal Team of September on their utterly meaningless accomplishment. May their eternal hunt to not win a division title continue.

:p

[Insomniac]

missing 80% of your starting pitching will do that.

Congratulations to the eternal Team of September on their utterly meaningless accomplishment. May their eternal hunt to not win a division title continue.

:p

Hey, MLB helped them out. That's what the wild card is for! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAGTfFJFsfA

[Dr. Corkski]

Dan Haren > *

[IlliniRacer]

Lou Piniella:

http://www.appetites.us/1animalhouse508.jpeg

[Andrew Longman]

pssssssst: I'm not a fan either but don't tell TravelGuy. ;)

Felt a little sorry for the pitcher. Just called up from AA. You know they are hurting when they have already vaccuumed out the AAA teams.

Actually they were leaving the AAA guys in Scranton for now hoping to not screw up their development. (Screw the AA guys instead). Didn't work out too well so the the AAA ace is starting for the Yanks on Thursday.

Nevertheless, It was Myers turn to stink it up last night. The pen is a complete mess.

[Andrew Longman]

Got bullpen?

Not NYY.

:gomer:

-Kevin

:rofl:

Just as an aside... How do folks in Cbus feel about the Clippers losing their association with the Yanks? Does it matter at all? People here didn't care when Trenton shifted from Detroit to Boston, but when it switched to the Yanks it was a big deal because you get to see Yanks in rehab starts as well as the up and coming prospects.

But Columbus was aligned with the Yanks for as long as I could remember.

[dando]

:rofl:

Just as an aside... How do folks in Cbus feel about the Clippers losing their association with the Yanks? Does it matter at all? People here didn't care when Trenton shifted from Detroit to Boston, but when it switched to the Yanks it was a big deal because you get to see Yanks in rehab starts as well as the up and coming prospects.

But Columbus was aligned with the Yanks for as long as I could remember.

The Clippers were the Yankees affiliate since ~1980. I think the shock over the Yankees moving to Scranton was lessened when it became apparent that either the Tribe or the Reds would likely relocate their AAA team to Cbus. My $$$ is on the Tribe moving here from Buffalo. The Nats are only signed for 2 seasons, so someone else will be here when the new ballpark opens in 2009 (assuming they local gov gets off its @ss and gets the park site cleaned up and the ballpark design approved). :saywhat: $10 the Yankees end up in Buffalo if the Tribe moves the Bisons here? It was a good run with the Yankees, but I think it was time for a change.

You'd better hope the Boss is willing to break out that checkbook when The Rocket comes knocking in a few weeks.

-Kevin

[Andrew Longman]

$10 the Yankees end up in Buffalo if the Tribe moves the Bisons here?

I think not. The Yanks have expressly said they want to keep their farm teams closer to NY because it makes it easier logisitically to move players around, do rehab starts and for the ML coaches to assess farm talent. They also realize that having local farm team will not draw fans away from the big team. Rather it helps to build more regional interest. That's how they explained the move from Cbus anyway.



You'd better hope the Boss is willing to break out that checkbook when The Rocket comes knocking in a few weeks.

When has that ever been an issue? If anything he is too quick with the pen and frankly he may be with the Rocket. His competitiveness makes the other pitcher better, but he's not really good for more than 4-5 inning anymore, he is old, not getting old, and this "I'll walk in when I feel like it, but I don't care to spend the full season crap" is bad for the clubhouse. Let him bring that poison to the idiots up in Boston.

[dando]

I think not. The Yanks have expressly said they want to keep their farm teams closer to NY because it makes it easier logisitically to move players around, do rehab starts and for the ML coaches to assess farm talent. They also realize that having local farm team will not draw fans away from the big team. Rather it helps to build more regional interest. That's how they explained the move from Cbus anyway.

Yeah, but they've only signed a 2-year deal with Scranton, but Scranton is closer to NYC than Buffalo.

-Kevin

[Ankf00]

His competitiveness makes the other pitcher better, but he's not really good for more than 4-5 inning anymore, he is old, not getting old, and this "I'll walk in when I feel like it, but I don't care to spend the full season crap" is bad for the clubhouse. Let him bring that poison to the idiots up in Boston.

that's a crock, he averaged 6 IP/outing last season with a 2.30 ERA and about 1 K/Inning. and he's the consummate teammate on top of that even if he does skip the road trips he's not pitching in.

but, hopefully he does ignore the overtures from the carpetbaggers, so keep on thinking he's only good for 4 IP/outing :p

[Tony George]

Suck it, Houston Nancy boys!!! :D

http://hosted.ap.org/photos/4/4ae4b4bc-f577-4df4-b50c-ab80dfbd4e05-big.jpg

[Andrew Longman]

that's a crock, he averaged 6 IP/outing last season with a 2.30 ERA and about 1 K/Inning. and he's the consummate teammate on top of that even if he does skip the road trips he's not pitching in.

but, hopefully he does ignore the overtures from the carpetbaggers, so keep on thinking he's only good for 4 IP/outing :p

I mistyped. I meant to say he makes the entire pitching staff better because of the example he sets. If he averaged six innings last year I'm surprised because he was barely doing that a few years ago with the Yanks.

I just don't want the circus around him to float into the Bronx this summer. The team is a long way from the solid cast of characters on the team in 96-00. Its better than it was a few years ago but there is still too much influence from the bozos in Tampa and I'm afraid it will get worse if the pitchers keep going down. Hughes is the latest. Out six weeks with a hamstring he pulled in the sixth inning of a no hitter last night.:shakehead

[Ankf00]

that performance last night was ridiculous. and against the Rangers too :laugh: :thumbup:

[Insomniac]

When has that ever been an issue? If anything he is too quick with the pen and frankly he may be with the Rocket. His competitiveness makes the other pitcher better, but he's not really good for more than 4-5 inning anymore, he is old, not getting old, and this "I'll walk in when I feel like it, but I don't care to spend the full season crap" is bad for the clubhouse. Let him bring that poison to the idiots up in Boston.

I'd be mad about this but they are the geniuses that dismantled the world series team...

[dando]

Yankees get Rocket. :saywhat: Yankees suck....'nuff said. :thumdown: :gomer:

Back to yer usual cartoons...

:D

-Kevin

[Ankf00]

Yanquis will burninate the peoples!

[Andrew Longman]

Yankees get Rocket. :saywhat: Yankees suck....'nuff said. :thumdown: :gomer:

The good, the bad and the ugly, well maybe not in that order.

The display yesterday at the game was ridiculous. Too bad most of you couldn't hear the local TV and radio coverage. Wetting themselves doesn't begin to cover it. Suzyn Waldman, one of the radio voices, was screaming and I swear had multiple, multiple orgasms.

The Yankees are about drama, but this just seemed so desparate, contrived and orchestrated. I could see it if it was Bernie Williams coming back, but "welcoming home" Roger Clemens? He was a Yankee for only four years and was known for stinking it up in big games. Was he running away from home these last three years after the Yankees gave him an Orange Hummer to retire to Texas with?

Highest salary in baseball? Higher than even A-Rod? Please, he won't even be the best pitcher on the staff. As is too often the case the Yanks were bidding against themselves. Houston wasn't going to give him anything and he sure as heck wasn't going back to Boston given how bad he pitched under that pressure the last many times he was there.

The special treatment? Where is the "team" of equals from the late 90s. I'm sure Giambi is happy to carry Rockets bags so long as he pitches every fifth day (and so long as he can next ask someone to carry his). This is crap and very much un-Yankee of putting the team and it history and professionalism first.

His numbers in Houston were impressive but he only pitched into the 7th a handful of times and averaged less than six. His ERA was very low but add at least a run when it translates to the American League and the bottom third of the order is almost as strong as the top. His ERA was in the 4s during his time with the Yanks. If he is just a solid starter that can give you 5 innings then he is just a capable 4th starter that doesn't help the pen very much.

But why does it make sense? They need pitching and this commits them to only a one year deal, something they aren't likely to get with another prospect. They don't have to trade or give up any of their very good prospects. Better yet, they can put them back on their proper development plan and better yet they get to learn something about competitiveness, preparation and toughness from Clemens.

And perhaps more than anything else, and its what George lives for, it stirs up the Yankee haters and puts the Yanks on the back page of the tabloids and non-stop on the sport-talk stations. It tells the Yankee loyal that they will do whatever it takes to stay on top even if it is sometimes crazy.

BTW, the Star Ledger estimates he will be paid just under $8000 a pitch. I wonder what Trevor will pay me to play catch with him.:)

[dando]

It's mind boggling to think that the NYY have > $50mm tied up in two players. :eek: :saywhat: How many teams don't have payrolls > $50mm? I'll bet it's @ least half. :\

-Kevin