Max Mosley in sado-masochist National Socialist orgy with hookers

[opinionated ow]

Well, seems Max has more pressure:
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20407.html

[Accipiter]

Mosley rejects talk of FIA crisis (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67826)

.....

The clubs also said that Mosley's refusal to accept a compromise deal to leave in November had left the governing body in a crisis.

"We deeply regret your refusal to accept the proposal by the members of the World Council for Automobile Mobility and Tourism to reach an agreement for you to step down at the General Assembly in the coming month of November," the letter added. "This is a constructive effort to facilitate an orderly transition within the FIA and to find a solution to the present crisis."

Mosley, in a letter sent to the 24 clubs, said on Thursday that accepting the deal would have been "the worst possible solution" for the FIA.

The governing body's head also labelled as "nonsense" talks of crisis within the FIA and insisted he has received more calls to stay than to quit.

"I did not accept the proposal from some (but not, as you incorrectly suggest, all) members of the Mobility World Council because it was the worst possible solution," Mosley wrote.

"I would have resigned, yet still spent the summer carrying out all the day-to-day work with neither the time nor the authority to complete the major outstanding tasks. Better to stop immediately than accept this muddled compromise.

"Your suggestion of a 'crisis' is nonsense. Although I am personally embarrassed and greatly regret that this affair has become public, no one fails to call for roadside assistance because of it.

"As I said in my earlier letters, the communications I received from club presidents were overwhelmingly in favour of my remaining as president. I therefore had no choice but to submit the question to the FIA membership as a whole. I certainly could not have simply ignored the majority and resigned."

.....


Full letter from Max Mosley to the clubs (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67827)



Russian federation joins clubs' plea (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67831)

By Pablo Elizalde Thursday, May 29th 2008, 15:31 GMT

The Russian motorsport federation has joined calls for Max Mosley to step down as president of the governing body.

[oddlycalm]

Max seems to have taken the position that as long as a couple clubs in Africa and Gerhard Berger are behind him he's staying.

oc

[emjaya]

Well, seems Max has more pressure:
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns20407.html



What is significant is that a number of other clubs that have come out publicly against Mosley in recent weeks are not signatories to the letter, notably New Zealand, Australia and South Africa.

They were either not asked to sign or decided to keep their own counsel until the General Assembly.


Too scared to make a stand until they know which way the vote will go. :rolleyes:

[opinionated ow]

Too scared to make a stand until they know which way the vote will go. :rolleyes:

We are talking about CAMS here...so toothless that they let a splinter destroy the GT Championship.

[Insomniac]

If it wasn't clear before, it is now:


"He should stand down out of responsibility for the institution he represents, including F1," he said.

"Everyone who I speak to in a position of authority across F1 rings me to say he should leave. It is regretful he has not made this decision."

[Accipiter]

The kiss of death.

[nissan gtp]

yep, if BE says he's done, then he's done.

[oddlycalm]

So, now that the handwriting is on the proverbial wall, who should replace Mosely? Little doubt it'll be some creature of Bernies.

oc

[dando]

So, now that the handwriting is on the proverbial wall, who should replace Mosely? Little doubt it'll be some creature of Bernies.

oc

How 'bout :tony:? :gomer:

-Kevin

[emjaya]

So, now that the handwriting is on the proverbial wall, who should replace Mosely? Little doubt it'll be some creature of Bernies.

oc

Martin Brundle.

[Cam]

Martin Brundle.

Interesting...

[Accipiter]

Interesting...

Yeah. In a OMFG NO! kind of way.

[morgahorse]

So, now that the handwriting is on the proverbial wall, who should replace Mosely? Little doubt it'll be some creature of Bernies.

oc

Most likely it'd be Jean Todt.

[emjaya]

Too scared to make a stand until they know which way the vote will go. :rolleyes:

Well, I was wrong. The Australian Automobile Association has added it's name to the FIA Club's letter asking Mosley to step down.
Link (http://www.aaa.asn.au/publications/media_releases.php?action=view&media_releaseId=349) for those interested.

[Cam]

Well, I was wrong. The Australian Automobile Association has added it's name to the FIA Club's letter asking Mosley to step down.
Link (http://www.aaa.asn.au/publications/media_releases.php?action=view&media_releaseId=349) for those interested.

:thumbup:

[STD]

Most likely it'd be Jean Todt.


Boy, what a clean slate that wouldn't be.

[Cam]

Boy, what a clean slate that wouldn't be.

Exactly. :thumdown:

[opinionated ow]

Well, I was wrong. The Australian Automobile Association has added it's name to the FIA Club's letter asking Mosley to step down.
Link (http://www.aaa.asn.au/publications/media_releases.php?action=view&media_releaseId=349) for those interested.

pfft....they have little to no value in the scheme of things. When CAMS and Osbourne get out there and say something, that is when Australia's contribution becomes important.

[emjaya]

pfft....they have little to no value in the scheme of things. When CAMS and Osbourne get out there and say something, that is when Australia's contribution becomes important.


AAA Executive Director, Mike Harris, and President, Alan Evans, will attend an Extraordinary General Meeting in Paris next Tuesday to vote on Mr Mosley's future.

Click on the link and read the text.

[TrueBrit]

Umm....okay....:saywhat:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7430939.stm

[Andrew Longman]

Umm....okay....:saywhat:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7430939.stm

The Eddie Jordon interview in that link is interesting. Points to the practical aspects of keeping Max on. Suggests Max just wanted a vote of confidence before standing down.

[Ankf00]

whisky.

tango.

foxtrot.

[High Sided]

bound.

gaged.

flogged.

warm tea :gomer:

[dando]

:irked: :saywhat: :shakehead


The American, Japanese, French, Australian and Spanish automobile federations all voted against Mosley as did the German motoring federation ADAC - Europe's largest automobile organisation - who said it has now frozen all its activities with FIA.


I'd certainly like to know who voted FOR him.


President of the American Automobile Association, which serves over 50 million members, Darbelnet said the result could split motorsport and lead to a breakaway from members from the FIA.

"We should not rush to judgement on this," he said.

"But one of the potential ramifications is the division or a split way from the organisation that might in fact provide an opportunity for like-minded clubs to find a representative body in a different form."

He also told BBC Radio Five Live: "It doesn't seem consistent with the manner in which an organisation of this type should run itself but you have to respect the decision of the voters.

"This will force us into considering our options to ensure we belong to an international entity that properly governs itself and ensures proper representation to motorists."



Nice work, Max. :finger:

-Kevin

[Insomniac]

I'd certainly like to know who voted FOR him.


In a secret ballot at a specially convened assembly in Paris of the national federations and motoring bodies that make up the Federation International de l'Automobile, the vote was 103-55 -- with seven abstentions and four invalid votes -- in Mosley's favor.

Good luck with that. :gomer:

[Gnam]

More than a third of delegates did not back Mosley at Tuesday's meeting in Paris but he won 103 of 169 votes
The only sliver lining is if the FiA implosion sideswipes Bernie's little scam on the way down. Probably though nothing will happen. :thumdown:

[dando]

The only sliver lining is if the FiA implosion sideswipes Bernie's little scam on the way down. Probably though nothing will happen. :thumdown:

We'll see. A bunch of the major players voted against him, so mebbe they'll band together. One can hope....

-Kevin

[rosawendel]

I am not concerned. After all, doesn't the FIA need two tries to get everything "right" anyway?
-michelin responsibility in the '05 USGP
-Mclaren / spygate

[Andrew Longman]

I am not concerned. After all, doesn't the FIA need two tries to get everything "right" anyway?
-michelin responsibility in the '05 USGP
-Mclaren / spygate

True.

Me thinks there is something to the convoluted reason Max gave about why he needed to stay on because of ongoing negotiations that are far to complex for me to understand. Put another way, many may have voted their pocket book.

The 1/3rd that voted against likely include those that realize scaring away potential sponsors and the President uninvited to most or all GPs is actually a problem.

[oddlycalm]

The comparisons to the IOC are now complete. Old fascists controlling an organization where corruption on the part of the 3rd world delegations allows them to stay on and polluting the entire effort. :thumdown:

Max has won his vote but he has seriously damaged the FIA in the process. Or maybe, as with the Olympic Commitee, it simply revealed an organization that was rotten at the core all along. :shakehead

oc

[Accipiter]

I'd certainly like to know who voted FOR him.


Basically it's like this: Countries where average people own cars voted against him, and countries where average people don't even have running water voted for him.

[cameraman]

That seems to be Bernie's take on things...

"Just because he got a few more votes from Africa doesn't mean the king of Spain will want to shake his hand," Ecclestone said. "It is going to be very hard for Max to do half a job. He is not as powerful now as he was."

[TedN]

Now it has been revealed that most of the votes supporting Mosley came from third-world countries, a majority of which don't even have a sanctioned FIA event, yet still have a vote in the organization's disciplinary committee.

Officials at FIA admitted after the vote that Mosley had authorized first-class airfare and accommodation at top hotels in Paris for the delegates who he knew would back him in his bid to keep his job.

While his actions were not illegal, or against any standing FIA rules, it certainly tainted the outcome.


Source (http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/OtherSports/2008/06/06/5790801-sun.html)

Ted

:shakehead

[Sean O'Gorman]

See! African countries love him! Not racist! :rofl:

[Accipiter]

Now Bernie is the racist:




Ecclestone will explain African remarks (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/68069)

By Jonathan Noble Saturday, June 7th 2008, 16:51 GMT

Formula One supremo Bernie Ecclestone will explain to the FIA's African Council that remarks perceived as a "derogatory, demeaning and uncalled for" attack on Africa were taken out of context.

D N Njoroge, the director general of the Automobile Association of Kenya, wrote a letter to Ecclestone criticising his statement that: "Just because [Max Mosley] got a few more votes from Africa doesn't mean King of Spain will want to shake his hand."

Njoroge wrote: "The African clubs take great exception in what is clearly derogatory, demeaning and uncalled for attacks on Africa.

[dando]

Source (http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/OtherSports/2008/06/06/5790801-sun.html)

Ted

:shakehead

Precisely what I expected since the major countries voted against him. How pathetic. :thumdown: :saywhat:

-Kevin

[Andrew Longman]

Now Bernie is the racist:

I don't take that as racist. Just stupidly and arrogantly demeaning. :shakehead

[Indy]

Someone should break Bernie's kneecaps, force Max to walk the plank, and tell the offended African clubs to STFU.

Jeebus, what stinking pit of corruption and lies.

[Methanolandbrats]

Qualies sure were good today. :thumbup:

[emjaya]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/formula_1/article4124203.ece

Bernie makes "peace".


Bernie Ecclestone offers olive branch to Max Mosley

The cold war between Bernie Ecclestone and Max Mosley over the future of Formula One took a new turn yesterday with a letter from Ecclestone to the FIA clubs in which the commercial rights holder apparently draws back from any attempt to set up a breakaway championship.

[Cam]

Pathetic. :shakehead

[oddlycalm]

It's only about money and power with Bernie. This is simply a bit of theater. He could care less whether Max stays or goes.

oc

[cameraman]

So much for "peace":rolleyes:


What the FIA doesn’t have, which is the most important thing for them, is an agreement with the teams which they would have with a Concorde Agreement. The teams can do what they like. At the moment what we are trying to do, to keep sponsors happy, is say we can’t break away, but it could well be that that will happen. There is no agreement between the teams and the FIA. There is a commercial agreement that has been signed by the teams and FOM, so the teams can do what they like.

Max has nothing to do with finance. The FIA has a clear, clear, clear agreement and signed agreement with the European Commission that they are the regulators of the sport. They are not anything to do with money. If Max comes back and says we should give more money to teams, I will tell him to mind his own bloody business.

People don’t know what’s going on. If you are a big, big organisation, you don’t know what decisions to take. I am responsible to our shareholders, the teams and the manufacturers, who have an awful lot of money invested. Max is responsible to the people in wherever who have got no money invested and nor has the FIA got money invested - all they’ve got is money that comes from Formula 1. If there was no Formula 1, the FIA would be in serious trouble.

The Jewish community controls an awful lot of the finance which comes into Formula 1, directly or indirectly. They say the FIA shouldn’t let somebody like Max represent them.

[oddlycalm]

So much for "peace":rolleyes:

Yup, the last two paragraphs tell the tale. The FIA general assembly has all the significance of a fart in the wind. They had their chance to do the right thing and they mucked it up. The sponsors, teams and race venues want him gone so Bernie is orchestrating his departure. This may be entertaining.

oc

[meadors]

Somebody said
"just because he (Mosley) got a few more votes from Africa doesn't mean the King of Spain will want to shake his hand".

Fill me in. Why is this racist or demeaning?

Some other guy in Africa said
the African members took "great exception in what is clearly derogatory, demeaning and uncalled for attacks on Africa. "In more than 30 years of my close relationship with AIT/FIA, this is the first time to come across such subtle and thinly veiled attacks based on ethnicity," he added in correspondence with Ecclestone published on the official formula1.com Web site (www.formula1.com) on Friday.

"We expect withdrawal and apology to Africa if there was no motive behind these remarks."

What does the King of Spain have to do with this? Would it have different if he said The President of the United States or the Prime Minister of China?

[devilmaster]

King Of Spain??? ;)

-00zjEq9PNs

[stroker]

Spain has a king?

[opinionated ow]

Spain has a king?

yes. he usually presents the trophies at the Spanish Grand Prix and apparently rings up Alonso after every race.

[Elmo T]

King Of Spain??? ;)



Saw them in concert - the kids love that song by the way. ;)

On Topic - Toss them all out and put Jackie Stewart in charge of the whole thing.

[stroker]

yes. he usually presents the trophies at the Spanish Grand Prix and apparently rings up Alonso after every race.

Oh, that's right. I forgot that Generalissimo Franco was still dead.

:D

[Andrew Longman]

On Topic - Toss them all out and put Jackie Stewart in charge of the whole thing.

:thumbup:

[oddlycalm]

Spain has a king?
Yeah, they do. King Juan Carlos. He was the one responsible for the transition from dictatorship to a parliamentary democracy back in 1975 after that turd Franco croaked. Could have been a Balkans-like situation but he pulled it off, aside from the Basques still being pissed. Then he stepped back and became a cermonial figurehead. Oh, and he's an F1 fan. :cool:

And, he has the good sense not to want to shake Max's hand...

oc

[oddlycalm]

The cold soup further congeals...

Mosley was warned about plot (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/68669)


"It was clear that Max disregarded the advice and failed to realise his vulnerability. The issue for me was his total disregard for genuine advice from individuals that he knew had his best interests at heart"

oc

[ilferrari]

Just read this stuff :laugh:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7495604.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7495604.stm)

He said his client had been interested in sadomasochistic sex - or "S&M" - since "quite a young age".

[Ziggy]

Max sure does own a pair eh?

Figure he would get away from this like a bad BM. He has never, ever been defeated. He is very sure he can beat this and come out somehow vindicated

[pchall]

Oh, that's right. I forgot that Generalissimo Franco was still dead.

:D

:thumbup: I remember that old SNL news bit. :)

[Napoleon]

Here is a pretty good story about this in today's NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/world/europe/09mosley.html


By the way, as a bit of an aside, notice that the by-line on the piece is of John F. Burns who is one of the Times best war correspondents, and who has spent years and years in the mid-east war zones. Most interesting is that you could easily mistaken him for of our dearly departed Railbird. He was used often on TV for reports from the war zone for things like PBS and the like and the first time I saw him on TV I thought it was 'Bird for a second, until I realized he was a Brit, and was in Afganistan or Iraq.

Also he did a great story a couple of weeks ago on the motorcycle race on the Isle of Man (and a pretty good one on Lewis Hamilton also).

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/world/europe/23isle.html

[Cam]

You made me go look Nappy. I can see the Q-tip resemblance but he was missing the High Life. ;)

[oddlycalm]

Here is a pretty good story about this in today's NY Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/world/europe/09mosley.html
Thanks for posting the links, Burns is a favorite. Agreed on the uncanny resemblance. BTW, the only guy he lets cut his hair is in London so it got real long when he was in Iraq. His accounts of the war, including getting captured by Sadr's militia, are riveting.

From his article it sounds like not only is Max going to survive but that there's a good chance he'll have quite a lot more money to retire on. :irked:

oc

[Cam]

Thanks for posting the links, Burns is a favorite. Agreed on the uncanny resemblance. BTW, the only guy he lets cut his hair is in London so it got real long when he was in Iraq. His accounts of the war, including getting captured by Sadr's militia, are riveting.

From his article it sounds like not only is Max going to survive but that there's a good chance he'll have quite a lot more money to retire on. :irked:

oc

He's gonna need that money to heat his house year round. I imagine he gets a pretty chilly reception when he walks in the door and says, "Hi honey, I'm home!" :D

[Napoleon]

Thanks for posting the links, Burns is a favorite. Agreed on the uncanny resemblance. BTW, the only guy he lets cut his hair is in London so it got real long when he was in Iraq. His accounts of the war, including getting captured by Sadr's militia, are riveting.


I just went an read his bio and holy **** he has been in some tough places, including jailed in China. He must have had some long periods between hair cuts.

And I found this while looking. Apparently he is a lifelong F-1 fan.


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/14/news/letter.php



You made me go look Nappy. I can see the Q-tip resemblance but he was missing the High Life. ;)

Hey, cut him some slack. He has been posted in Islamic countries for a decade or so. I don't think they allow High Lifes.

[cameraman]

The BBC did a little background story on Max's preferred mode of entertainment.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7504758.stm

[devilmaster]

Hey, cut him some slack. He has been posted in Islamic countries for a decade or so. I don't think they allow High Lifes.

Muhammad just ain't livin the high life!

http://twinecreative.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/picture-1.png






- its a joke people, don't make me out to be the 21st century Salmon Rushdie

[Napoleon]

Mosley wins his court case.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-britain-mosley-ruling.html?hp

[Rogue Leader]

Mosley wins his court case.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-britain-mosley-ruling.html?hp

Wow they dont F around over there.... Here he would still be waiting a year for a court date!

[Cam]

Mosley wins his court case.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-britain-mosley-ruling.html?hp

Unbelievable. :rolleyes:

What a scumbucket.

[TrueBrit]

I wouldn't be surprised if the judge in this case uses the same "services" as Max...He only got 60K for it, and still denies that speaking with a german accent and pretending to be checked for lice was NOT in fact a holocaust reference...Yeah, and I'm the King of Spain...:shakehead

It is BEYOND time for this wanker to leave...

[Don Quixote]

Somehow I knew it would come out this way. They can't dig a hole deep enough to stuff that piece of ****. :shakehead

[Andrew Longman]

He said he had frequently paid up to 2,500 pounds a time to have prostitutes beat, whip and humiliate him.

Yet that is not humiliation enough to quit F1. :rolleyes:

Not really surprising since the humiliating job he's done hasn't made him quit either.

I wonder how much he paid the mistress to not testify for the paper, thus trashing their case

[NismoZ]

So, $120k for hurt feelings? I'm getting a lawyer!

[stroker]

Think there might be a market for "My FIA boss was whipped by psuedo-Nazi hookers and all I got was this lousy T-shirt" clothing?

[Michaelhatesfans]

Mosley wins his court case.


I wonder how he'll celebrate?

[ilferrari]

Zey need more of ze punishment, I sink. Mosley sues NOTW for libel (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69448)

Max doesn't feel vindicated enough. I guess this must mean he likes his S&M role-play to be "German wartime concentration camp"-themed, but definitely not Nazi-themed.

[oddlycalm]

Now he says he's gonna sue NOTW for libel.
Mosely sues for libel (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69448)

Nice how the justice system facilitates him. :shakehead:thumdown:

oc

[Gnam]

So is Max now welcome at F1 events? Will the Auto Clubs who asked him to leave now beg him to stay? I wish the FIA had some self respect.

[indyfan31]

Google told: Hide Mosley's FIVE-HOOKER ORGY. Now everyone will view it AGAIN (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/07/max_mosley_hookers_orgy_sadomasochism_video_streis and_effect/)

I can't really improve on the story's headline, so I won't. :D