Foyt Futility - St. Pete

[Wheel-Nut]

Welcome back!!

Practice 1

Time / Speed

1 Justin Wilson (02) 1:3.5210 102.014
2 Vitor Meira (4) 1:3.7590 101.633
3 Tony Kanaan (11) 1:3.7750 101.607
4 Helio Castroneves (3) 1:3.9407 101.344
5 Graham Rahal (06) 1:4.1189 101.062
6 Scott Dixon (9) 1:4.1702 100.981
7 Marco Andretti (26) 1:4.1703 100.981
8 Darren Manning (14) 1:4.1738 100.976
9 Buddy Rice (15) 1:4.2406 100.871
10 Bruno Junqueira (18) 1:4.2589 100.842
11 Dan Wheldon (10) 1:4.3247 100.739
12 Franck Perera (34) 1:4.4374 100.563
13 Ryan Briscoe (6) 1:4.4435 100.553
14 Oriol Servia (5) 1:4.5670 100.361
15 Ernesto Viso (33) 1:4.6057 100.301
16 Jay Howard (24) 1:4.8687 99.894
17 Hideki Mutoh (27) 1:4.9001 99.846
18 Enrique Bernoldi (36) 1:5.3699 99.128
19 Danica Patrick (7) 1:5.3745 99.121
20 Townsend Bell (23) 1:5.3807 99.112
21 Will Power (8) 1:5.4794 98.962
22 Ed Carpenter (20) 1:5.9756 98.218
23 A.J. Foyt IV (2) 1:6.1617 97.942
24 Mario Moraes (19) 1:6.8506 96.933
25 Ryan Hunter-Reay (17) 1:7.4581 96.060
26 Marty Roth (25) 1:10.5489 91.851

[Chief]

Old saddlebags is mired down in 19th just ahead of the hiros.

[dando]

Welcome back!!

Practice 1

1 Justin Wilson (02)
2 Vitor Meira (4)
3 Tony Kanaan (11)
4 Helio Castroneves (3)
5 Graham Rahal (06) :eek:
6 Scott Dixon (9)
7 Marco Andretti (26) :laugh:
8 Darren Manning (14)
9 Buddy Rice (15)
10 Bruno Junqueira (18) :cool:
11 Dan Wheldon (10)
12 Franck Perera (34)
13 Ryan Briscoe (6)
14 Oriol Servia (5)
15 Ernesto Viso (33)
16 Jay Howard (24)
17 Hideki Mutoh (27)
18 Enrique Bernoldi (36)
19 Danica Patrick (7) :gomer:
20 Townsend Bell (23)
21 Will Power (8)
22 Ed Carpenter (20)
23 A.J. Foyt IV (2)
24 Mario Moraes (19)
25 Ryan Hunter-Reay (17)
26 Marty Roth (25)


Fixed dat post fer ya. :^)

-Kevin

[Racing Truth]

NHL.:thumbup:

[Racing Truth]

Fixed dat post fer ya. :^)

-Kevin

Why the :laugh: by Marco?

[dando]

Why the :laugh: by Marco?

Rahal > Andretti :)

-Kevin

[dando]

Welcome back!!

Practice 1

1 Justin Wilson (02) :eek: :eek: :cool:



How'd I miss that one? :thumbup:

-Kevin

[TKGAngel]

Rahal > Andretti :)

-Kevin

If the IRL was smart, they would be promoting the heck out of this season as Andretti v. Rahal II (Electric Bugaloo). Why not trumpet the fact that two of the best American talents in awhile are racing in the reunited Indy Car series?

Is it because they have outdoor plumbing, while other drivers have indoor plumbing and ample blessings?

[G.]

If the IRL was smart, they would be promoting the heck out of this season as Andretti v. Rahal II (Electric Bugaloo). Why not trumpet the fact that two of the best American talents in awhile are racing in the reunited Indy Car series?

Is it because they have outdoor plumbing, while other drivers have indoor plumbing and ample blessings?
They're probably worried that Andretti will wipe up the floor with Rahal this year. If NHL becomes competitive, they damn well better promo the rivalry!

[dando]

If the IRL was smart, they would be promoting the heck out of this season as Andretti v. Rahal II (Electric Bugaloo). Why not trumpet the fact that two of the best American talents in awhile are racing in the reunited Indy Car series?

Is it because they have outdoor plumbing, while other drivers have indoor plumbing and ample blessings?

It's all about the Danicle vs. DNF vs. Milkers Duno, yo! Mebbe they can resurrect the Cat Fight promo Miller Lite did a few years ago? :D :tony: ;)

-Kevin

[Chief]

Where is DNF anyway? Did Tonee give her a pink slip?

[Sean Malone]

Where is DNF anyway? Did Tonee give her a pink slip?

Isn't she starting her own team? Could be starting at Indy. Probably finishing there to.

[SurfaceUnits]

If the IRL was smart, they would be promoting the heck out of this season as Andretti v. Rahal II (Electric Bugaloo). Why not trumpet the fact that two of the best American talents in awhile are racing in the reunited Indy Car series? because the 6 people that care are already on web forums discussing it. you do realize there are two generations that have no idea that andretti vs rahal ever had any meaning

[pchall]

Old saddlebags is mired down in 19th just ahead of the hiros.

Old Saddlebags = Young Summer Squash in an alternative universe? :rofl:

ps: this saved me a bit of work when I got home from MofGDOH. Thanks for the headstart! That's OC community spirit at work! :)

[extramundane]

Granted it's just practice, but since someone's bound to ask:

P1 Marco Werner 1:02.825
Justin Wilson (02) 1:03.521
P2 Romain Dumas 1:03.578
Danica Patrick (7) 1:05.3745
Ed Carpenter (20) 1:05.975
A.J. Foyt IV (2) 1:06.1617
GT1 Olivier Beretta 1:09.727
Marty Roth (25) 1:10.5489

[pchall]

Larry ran out of ways to cheat?


22 Ed Carpenter (20)
23 A.J. Foyt IV (2)

[Al Czervik]

Larry ran out of ways to cheat?

He thinks that taking downforce & drag away will make the car faster on a road course, also.

[dando]

Where is DNF anyway? Did Tonee give her a pink slip?

My guess is Indy, but perhaps she'll make an appearance @ the Twister 300 or whatever it's called in KS. :gomer:

-Kevin

[IlliniRacer]

WTF is Marty Roth doing out there :saywhat:

[Racing Truth]

WTF is Marty Roth doing out there :saywhat:

About what one would expect: pure wankerness.

[Don Quixote]

So Roth, in his high tech fighter jet, is being dusted by .8 seconds a lap by a vette? :rofl: :laugh: :rofl:

[Racing Truth]

BTW: P2 saw JW and Rahal slower, but nice speed from Will Power and Perera.

[Wheel-Nut]

Practice 2

Time / Speed

1 Helio Castroneves (3) 1:3.3068 102.359
2 Tony Kanaan (11) 1:3.3680 102.260
3 Hideki Mutoh (27) 1:3.4491 102.129
4 Will Power (8) 1:3.5983 101.890
5 Franck Perera (34) 1:3.6346 101.831
6 Vitor Meira (4) 1:3.6505 101.806
7 Marco Andretti (26) 1:3.6576 101.795
8 Scott Dixon (9) 1:3.7358 101.670
9 Oriol Servia (5) 1:3.7377 101.667
10 Ryan Hunter-Reay (17) 1:3.7379 101.666
11 Ryan Briscoe (6) 1:3.8044 101.560
12 Justin Wilson (02) 1:3.9599 101.313
13 Darren Manning (14) 1:3.9905 101.265
14 Bruno Junqueira (18) 1:4.2090 100.920
15 Dan Wheldon (10) 1:4.2912 100.791
16 Buddy Rice (15) 1:4.4419 100.556
17 Enrique Bernoldi (36) 1:4.5261 100.424
18 Graham Rahal (06) 1:4.5618 100.369
19 Danica Patrick (7) 1:4.7718 100.044
20 Townsend Bell (23) 1:4.7961 100.006
21 Ernesto Viso (33) 1:5.0462 99.621
22 A.J. Foyt IV (2) 1:5.3497 99.159
23 Ed Carpenter (20) 1:5.7426 98.566
24 Jay Howard (24) 1:5.7668 98.530
25 Mario Moraes (19) 1:5.8624 98.387
26 Marty Roth (25) 1:8.7802 94.213

[Chaos]

Granted it's just practice, but since someone's bound to ask:

P1 Marco Werner 1:02.825
Justin Wilson (02) 1:03.521
P2 Romain Dumas 1:03.578
Danica Patrick (7) 1:05.3745
Ed Carpenter (20) 1:05.975
A.J. Foyt IV (2) 1:06.1617
GT1 Olivier Beretta 1:09.727
Marty Roth (25) 1:10.5489

ALMS Prototype cars are quick.

[grungex]

Combined practices:

Pos Driver Name Best Time Best Speed Best Lap Total Laps

01 Helio Castroneves (3) 1:3.3068 102.359 14 14
02 Tony Kanaan (11) 1:3.3680 102.260 24 25
03 Hideki Mutoh (27) 1:3.4491 102.129 5 10
04 Justin Wilson (02) 1:3.5210 102.014 32 35
05 Will Power (8) 1:3.5983 101.890 6 23
06 Franck Perera (34) 1:3.6346 101.831 11 18
07 Vitor Meira (4) 1:3.6505 101.806 18 24
08 Marco Andretti (26) 1:3.6576 101.795 4 21
09 Scott Dixon (9) 1:3.7358 101.670 5 22
10 Oriol Servia (5) 1:3.7377 101.667 8 23
11 Ryan Hunter-Reay (17) 1:3.7379 101.666 20 21
12 Ryan Briscoe (6) 1:3.8044 101.560 16 20
13 Darren Manning (14) 1:3.9905 101.265 5 21
14 Graham Rahal (06) 1:4.1189 101.062 33 33
15 Bruno Junqueira (18) 1:4.2090 100.920 4 14
16 Buddy Rice (15) 1:4.2406 100.871 27 33
17 Dan Wheldon (10) 1:4.2912 100.791 7 19
18 Enrique Bernoldi (36) 1:4.5261 100.424 12 21
19 Ernesto Viso (33) 1:4.6057 100.301 23 26
20 Danica Patrick (7) 1:4.7718 100.044 6 21 :laugh:
21 Townsend Bell (23) 1:4.7961 100.006 21 22
22 Jay Howard (24) 1:4.8687 99.894 27 31
23 A.J. Foyt IV (2) 1:5.3497 99.159 10 16
24 Ed Carpenter (20) 1:5.7426 98.566 23 24
25 Mario Moraes (19) 1:5.8624 98.387 6 9
26 Marty Roth (25) 1:8.7802 94.213 3 13

[dando]

20 Danica Patrick (7) 1:4.7718 100.044 6 21 :laugh:


I'm sorry, but that's :rofl:.

:D

-Kevin

[SurfaceUnits]

I'm sorry, but that's :rofl:.

:D

-KevinMore hilarity from Princess

"I used to struggle on road courses, and then one day I figured it out. I just have not found that missing link in the street courses. I know I will – it is just going to take some time. The first practice session today did not go well. But thankfully the second session went much better. I know that the Motorola car will be strong come qualifying tomorrow. My crew has been working really hard to get the setup that I need."

[extramundane]

More hilarity from Princess

"I used to struggle on road courses, and then one day I figured it out. I just have not found that missing link in the street courses. I know I will – it is just going to take some time. The first practice session today did not go well. But thankfully the second session went much better. I know that the Motorola car will be strong come qualifying tomorrow. My crew has been working really hard to get the setup that I need."

Hey, she's faster than 10% of the ALMS prototype field already, so she's got that going for her. :thumbup:

[Ed_Severson]

Looks like the progressive steering helped a lot. :tony:

:thumbup: to Justin and Will, and :thumbup: :thumbup: to Perera. Kid looks awfully good for a legitimate rookie.

Somebody help me out here ... since Milka isn't around, who is the 26th entry? Is it Townsend Bell? 2nd D&R car?

[EVL29]

Somebody help me out here ... since Milka isn't around, who is the 26th entry? Is it Townsend Bell? 2nd D&R car?


Yes,Townsend BellGrande replaced MilkyDonuts.

Pretty much a wash,IMO.

[Ed_Severson]

Yes,Townsend BellGrande replaced MilkyDonuts.

Pretty much a wash,IMO.

Ah, so he's in the SAMAX car? A step up, I would think. Maybe equally likely to smash some parts, but less likely to take anybody else with him.

Removing Milka Duno from a race seat ought to qualify somebody for a safety award of some sort.

[grungex]

Seems rather puzzling that they run her on the oval and not the street, given her road-racing background.

[Ed_Severson]

Seems rather puzzling that they run her on the oval and not the street, given her road-racing background.

No co-drivers to carry her.

[extramundane]

Seems rather puzzling that they run her given her background.

Fixered. :)

[grungex]

:rofl:

[SurfaceUnits]

Seems rather puzzling that they run her on the oval and not the street, given her road-racing background.they knew if they let her on track this weekend, she'd find a way to crashout the LMP1 leader. :shakehead

[EVL29]

Ah, so he's in the SAMAX car? A step up, I would think. Maybe equally likely to smash some parts, but less likely to take anybody else with him.

Removing Milka Duno from a race seat ought to qualify somebody for a safety award of some sort.

I don't believe so. She took her CITGO money to Dreyer & Reinbold.

[JohnHKart]

It's hilarious that Milka's a road racer but she only shows up at ovals. Im sure you guys must have some good ones about that.

JH

[Ed_Severson]

I don't believe so. She took her CITGO money to Dreyer & Reinbold.

That sounds right, come to think of it. I guess that explains my confusion ... I figured it was a D&R car based on the #23 until you told me he replaced Milka; then I got all :tony: up.

I'll stop talking now. :)

[Wheel-Nut]

Practice 3

1 Ryan Briscoe (6) 1:2.9746 102.899
2 Marco Andretti (26) 1:3.1362 102.635
3 Oriol Servia (5) 1:3.1647 102.589
4 Justin Wilson (02) 1:3.1863 102.554
5 Scott Dixon (9) 1:3.1971 102.536
6 Dan Wheldon (10) 1:3.2971 102.374
7 Helio Castroneves (3) 1:3.3262 102.327
8 Ernesto Viso (33) 1:3.3731 102.252
9 Ryan Hunter-Reay (17) 1:3.4136 102.186
10 Buddy Rice (15) 1:3.5172 102.020
11 Tony Kanaan (11) 1:3.5477 101.971
12 Enrique Bernoldi (36) 1:3.5879 101.906
13 Hideki Mutoh (27) 1:3.6064 101.877
14 Will Power (8) 1:3.6572 101.795
15 Vitor Meira (4) 1:3.6757 101.766
16 Bruno Junqueira (18) 1:3.7015 101.724
17 Graham Rahal (06) 1:4.0008 101.249
18 Darren Manning (14) 1:4.1077 101.080
19 Franck Perera (34) 1:4.2445 100.865
20 Jay Howard (24) 1:4.5616 100.369
21 A.J. Foyt IV (2) 1:4.6632 100.212
22 Ed Carpenter (20) 1:4.8832 99.872
23 Danica Patrick (7) 1:4.8925 99.857
24 Mario Moraes (19) 1:5.0811 99.568
25 Marty Roth (25) 1:7.3890 96.158
26 Townsend Bell (23) 1:13.1351 88.603

[Wheel-Nut]

First Group Quali . . . .

11:17:51 GMT-0400 Local yellow in Turn 10 for #25 Marty Roth hard into the tires

[Racing Truth]

CC guys looking really good right now.:thumbup:

I know, I know, fugly cars, TG, yadda yadda, but I'm finding this weekend quite compelling so far. Honestly looking forward to tomorrow.:cool:

Oh, and a hearty :rofl: to Danica. :coiledsnake:

[Racing Truth]

:blog: Where did Hunter-Reay's speed come from? :blog:

[Racing Truth]

Power and Wilson into final qual. Rahal, Servia and Perera with good runs too.

[Racing Truth]

Final

1. Kanaan
2. Power:thumbup:
3. Wilson:thumbup:
4. Castroneves
5. Briscoe
6. Hunter-Reay.

5 of the top 10 are CC "transition" teams.:cool:

[Wheel-Nut]

Race Line up

1 Tony Kanaan (11) 1:2.5322 103.627
2 Will Power (8) 1:2.6096 103.499
3 Justin Wilson (02) 1:2.6426 103.444
4 Helio Castroneves (3) 1:2.6462 103.438
5 Ryan Briscoe (6) 1:2.7071 103.338
6 Ryan Hunter-Reay (17) 1:3.0077 102.845

7 Oriol Servia (5) 1:2.7427 103.279
8 Dan Wheldon (10) 1:2.7964 103.191
9 Graham Rahal (06) 1:2.8122 103.165
10 Franck Perera (34) 1:2.8749 103.062
11 Darren Manning (14) 1:3.0136 102.835
12 Marco Andretti (26) 1:3.2443 102.460
13 Scott Dixon (9) 1:3.2365 102.472
14 Hideki Mutoh (27) 1:3.2757 102.409
15 Ernesto Viso (33) 1:3.3067 102.359
16 Buddy Rice (15) 1:3.3591 102.274
17 Vitor Meira (4) 1:3.4480 102.131
18 Enrique Bernoldi (36) 1:3.4568 102.117
19 Danica Patrick (7) 1:3.5766 101.924
20 Jay Howard (24) 1:3.7447 101.656
21 Ed Carpenter (20) 1:3.8007 101.566
22 Mario Moraes (19) 1:4.1590 100.999
23 Townsend Bell (23) 1:4.3880 100.640
24 A.J. Foyt IV (2) 1:4.4996 100.466
25 Marty Roth (25) 1:7.7041 95.711
26 Bruno Junqueira (18) 1:9.3851 93.392

[Cam]

RHR is still a wanker. :thumdown:

[cameraman]

What happened to Bruno?

[Wheel-Nut]

What happened to Bruno?

Wanker Foyt put him into the wall at Indy a couple of years back. He's never been the same. :shakehead

[stroker]

Okay, call me a cynic. If you were Honda, who would you give Spinners to this weekend, assuming you want to try and save the series?

[meadors]

Okay, call me a cynic. If you were Honda, who would you give Spinners to this weekend, assuming you want to try and save the series?


3 Justin Wilson (02) 1:2.6426 103.444
4 Helio Castroneves (3) 1:2.6462 103.438
9 Graham Rahal (06) 1:2.8122 103.165
12 Marco Andretti (26) 1:3.2443 102.460
13 Scott Dixon (9) 1:3.2365 102.472

[Rogue Leader]

WTF Bruno in DFL?

[TKGAngel]

WTF Bruno in DFL?

According to the IRL site, Bruno had a brake failure during qualies and smacked the tire wall.

On a related note, the IRL's site is horrible to navigate.

[stroker]

On a related note, the IRL's site is horrible to navigate.

A lot of people who have never been there before will be coming to that realization, I expect.

[Indy]

This site is awesome:

http://www.champcarworld.net/pages/news.php?lg=us

The IRL site only doesn't suck if you consider the suckitude of the CCWS site. Now THAT sucked.

Thinking of the IRL site and the SPEED site, what are these people thinking? Has the world not figured out how to make a good web site? I surely couldn't do it, but is it that hard for professionals?

[grungex]

The IRL site only doesn't suck if you consider the suckitude of the CCWS site. Now THAT sucked.

I call absolute BS on this. The CC site may not have been the best website ever designed in a general sense, but I have yet to find a better racing series site yet for actually quickly finding info. The IRL and NASCAR sites were clearly designed by disgruntled IT gnomes determined to prevent anyone from actually finding out anything useful.

[Insomniac]

I call absolute BS on this. The CC site may not have been the best website ever designed in a general sense, but I have yet to find a better racing series site yet for actually quickly finding info. The IRL and NASCAR sites were clearly designed by disgruntled IT gnomes determined to prevent anyone from actually finding out anything useful.

If you have to scroll down to navigate the site, that is not quick navigation. The newly re-designed CC site was worse than the previous site.

The site should load fast (it doesn't).
The site should allow easy navigation (it doesn't).

[trish]

Is this the first time they've raced in the rain?

[dando]

Is this the first time they've raced in the rain?

Yup. They just said so. Should be fun. I'll watch for a bit taking a break from yard work. Let the craptacular crapticle begin! :tony: :laugh:

-Kevin

[trish]

I wanted to finish watching the Formula One race, but I can't pass up on this.

edit: I hope these cars don't fly anymore.

[dando]

I wanted to finish watching the Formula One race, but I can't pass up on this.

edit: I hope these cars don't fly anymore.

Same cars. :saywhat:

EDIT: This thing isn't gonna start anytime soon...there's clearly standing water in some of the turns, which the idiots in the booth have ignored while they blabber on about other unnecessary crap. :shakehead

-Kevin

[trish]

Same cars. :saywhat:

-Kevin

I know, but I was under the impression that they fixed something. I'm just not sure.

[dando]

I know, but I was under the impression that they fixed something. I'm just not sure.

They've tried, but they still fly. Fact is they can't fix the problem until they get a new chassis. They should just tie strings on these things and call them crappy kites. :tony:

-Kevin

[trish]

Was that a dryer I saw on the track?

Edit: Ah, sweepers!

Going green.

[FCYTravis]

I vote that this thread be renamed "IRL Futility - St. Pete."

Classic terrible officiating - I'm flashbacking to Rain America 2003.

Fuel mileage runs, endless rain delay yellows, road racers... CART 2.0 Lite is truly complete.

[trish]

I was going to say this is why I hate this type of racing, but didn't want to start anything.

Do they really have to run under yellow for this long?

RHR spins? I thought it was Danica actually.

[dando]

I was going to say this is why I hate this type of racing, but didn't want to start anything.

Do they really have to run under yellow for this long?

RHR spins? I thought it was Danica actually.

Standing is a non starter period. Can't have that even in F1. Ethanol car is Rahole and RHR.

-Kevin

[trish]

Standing is a non starter period. Can't have that even in F1. Ethanol car is Rahole and RHR.

-Kevin

Danica now. She stalled the car.

[dando]

Danica now. She stalled the car.

:gomer: And Marco. :gomer: :gomer:

-Kevin

[trish]

Moraes next.

[trish]

There goes the savior of Champ Car. lol

[trish]

Did he say timed race? How long before bankruptcy?

[dando]

Poor Danicle. :rofl:

-Kevin

[dando]

Did he say timed race? How long before bankruptcy?

2 hours. Same as C^RT/CCWS. All things C^RT/CCWS are now the EARL, yo. except for a decent car or engine. :saywhat:

EDIT: it's starting to dry up. I wonder who will be the guinea pig to switch to slicks? I vote Danicle. :gomer:

Rahole/Power is a fun battle.

-Kevin

[trish]

I'm having a bit of fun watching this battle between Graham and Will.

[trish]

local yellow for Buddy.

Come on Justin. Put her a lap down.

[trish]

Graham's doing a good job today.

Danica caution.

[trish]

I like this race.

[Elmo T]

Aurally unappealing. Both the cars and the broadcast team.

[TRDfan]

26 - Roth DNS


Thats something new

[trish]

The car isn't going to change in the near future. I like the competition going on right now. Probably because I'm rooting for the former CC drivers.

Sounds like Bruno is done.

Edit: Bruno is furious. Having a discussion with Dale Coyne right now.

[trish]

Three car crash. Meria, Perera, and I forgot the other one. The other car got away though.

Will Helio get Graham on the restart?

[trish]

Woo!!!!!!1 Graham wins!!!!!!!!!! :D

P.S. Ed Carpenter should quit.

[dando]

Woo!!!!!!1 Graham wins!!!!!!!!!! :D

P.S. Ed Carpenter should quit.

:thumbup:

-Kevin

[stroker]

The car isn't going to change in the near future. I like the competition going on right now. Probably because I'm rooting for the former CC drivers.

Sounds like Bruno is done.

Edit: Bruno is furious. Having a discussion with Dale Coyne right now.


What happened? I flipped over to LOTR for a few minutes and he was nowhere...

[trish]

What happened? I flipped over to LOTR for a few minutes and he was nowhere...

Gearbox

[Racing Truth]

I vote that this thread be renamed "IRL Futility - St. Pete."

Classic terrible officiating - I'm flashbacking to Rain America 2003.

Fuel mileage runs, endless rain delay yellows, road racers... CART 2.0 Lite is truly complete.

Started poorly....,

But didn't end that way.:cool:

We've mentioned the starting under yellow nonsense, though I suppose the ESPN window was, unfortunately, a thought. The other bad call was the Danic... errrr, debris yellow. Yes, there actually was debris there, but not a FCY.

In spite of that, sorry, that was fun. Interesting stuff all race. And remarkable for Graham.

[redmist]

if the irl envisions it's self as a premier racing series, they need to get rid of the entire tv crew tomorrow,if not sooner, and hire some professionals. my ears start bleeding and i get 1% dumber everytime i hear goodyear or arute open their mouth. that was absolute brutal tv viewing.

[Winston Wolfe]

if the irl envisions it's self as a premier racing series, they need to get rid of the entire tv crew tomorrow,if not sooner, and hire some professionals. my ears start bleeding and i get 1% dumber everytime i hear goodyear or arute open their mouth. that was absolute brutal tv viewing.

hey redmist, if you watch the entire race schedule this year, the chances are you will end up with an IQ that equates to yer typical nascar fan.... heck, you may change yer name to Dale !