Protecting Mr. Bush

[TedN]

Is this for real?

Link (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/notag/presidential-suv-machine-gun-pops-up-fills-the-air-with-lead-290181.php)

Ted

:eek:

[gjc2]

That's real.

I wonder if the secret service has to remove the gun in three years when the lease on the Yukon is up?

[trish]

God forbid if they ever needed to use it, I hope they would think twice before doing so with innocent people standing around.

[coolhand]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tMDhVu-f2Q

I think this is the same weapon here on an SF Hummer.

[eiregosod]

seems like the few seconds is a long some to respond to any evildoers.

[G.]

That's real.

I wonder if the secret service has to remove the gun in three years when the lease on the Yukon is up?
"Wait a minute... you want me to repossess WHICH vehicle?"

[oddlycalm]

Some more fun video of the Dillon minigun inlcuding cutting a medium sized tree in half.

Dillon minigun footage (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dillon+minigun&search_type=)

oc

[extramundane]

God forbid if they ever needed to use it, I hope they would think twice before doing so with innocent people standing around.

The brother-in-law is Secret Service and usually on presidential (or presidential candidate) detail. There's a very specific series of circumstances under which this kind of weapon would be used; although he can't say what they are, he did say that its primary function was to act as a deterrent.

Apparently, Secret Service work is heaven for gadget freaks.

[G.]

The brother-in-law is Secret Service and usually on presidential (or presidential candidate) detail. There's a very specific series of circumstances under which this kind of weapon would be used; although he can't say what they are, he did say that its primary function was to act as a deterrent.

Apparently, Secret Service work is heaven for gadget freaks.
it would certainly "deter" a speeding truck full of boom from getting any closer.

I helped, in a minor way, with a Prez visit once. Pretty cool, actually.

They weld down sewer covers.

You know, in case a champcar tries to go over it.
:p

[Wally]

My kind of party favor......:thumbup:

[nrc]

You know, in case a champcar tries to go over it.
:p
But what if they're driving on the ceiling?

[coolhand]

The brother-in-law is Secret Service and usually on presidential (or presidential candidate) detail. There's a very specific series of circumstances under which this kind of weapon would be used; although he can't say what they are, he did say that its primary function was to act as a deterrent.

Apparently, Secret Service work is heaven for gadget freaks.

Probably VBIEDs. They have learned a lot about protecting convoys.

[Elmo T]

I recall seeing this video elsewhere and the commentary indicated this was a essentially a defense contractor's dream. It was actually built, but without a buyer. I'll try to find the reference again.

I've worked a couple presidential visits in this area. The Secret Service doesn't discuss specific security measures with the locals, though they have many advanced capabilties even in the field. If they did have this, I can't imagine they'd being advertising it.

[oddlycalm]

I recall seeing this video elsewhere and the commentary indicated this was a essentially a defense contractor's dream. It was actually built, but without a buyer. I'll try to find the reference again. Not surprising knowing Dillon. Great quality, good prices and it's all made in Arizona. I just gave away one of their vibratory finishing machines and a progressive loader after more than 20yrs of use and both still functioned like the day they were new.

The history of the mini-gun project is actually pretty interesting. Dillon reworked the original General Electric M134 design for a single customer to make it reliable. The MAU-56 delinker/feeder on the GE product was a POS and frequently jammed and failed in the field due to inherent design flaws. Dillon came up with a plug compatible replacement that eliminated the (obvious) failure points. http://www.dillonaero.com/uimages/m134_components/feeder_delinker.jpg
They have a line of replacement/upgrade components as well as complete systems. Dillon Aero
(http://www.dillonaero.com/home.html) This wasn't some fat cost plus military contract worth $ billions, it was a small US company taking a troublesome piece of equipment and making it work as intended. Other applications evolved, some of them quite interesting.

To me the most interesting innovation is the round repositioner. Anyone that's ever had to deal with belted ammunition understands why this is huge.

oc

[Ankf00]

To me the most interesting innovation is the round repositioner. Anyone that's ever had to deal with belted ammunition understands why this is huge.

oc

Dillon's on Rambo's xmas card list, eh?

[oddlycalm]

Dillon's on Rambo's xmas card list, eh? Nope, Wile E. Coyote...

http://www.lesjones.com/www/images/posts/wecsog-diploma.jpg

oc

[FTG]

If you want one, you can get one the fires BBs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i-Eht5-JSQ

Everything you want to know here.

http://www.montysminiguns.com/RealityPage.htm

The A10 version is really cool. I doubt that the Secret Service uses it. You don't need that high a rate of fire when you're close/slow moving. (A machine gun works just fine and is a lot lighter, needs less ammo etc.) It's more for spraying a jungle from a helicopter/airplane.

[extramundane]

The A10 version is really cool. I doubt that the Secret Service uses it. You don't need that high a rate of fire when you're close/slow moving. (A machine gun works just fine and is a lot lighter, needs less ammo etc.) It's more for spraying a jungle from a helicopter/airplane.

Next time I see the B-I-L, I'll try to quiz him on it. Probably won't get anything out of him, but it's fun to try.