Cost controls announced beginning 2009

[oddlycalm]

Max's brain fart de jour. Since it doesn't apply to engines, drivers and principals salaries, KERS or marketing it's basically a massive layoff of technical and support people from Ferrari, McLaren, Honda & Toyota. Flav says he's already spending 40% less than the cap...:gomer:


A budget cap is set to be introduced in the sport from the start of 2009, and FIA consultant Tony Purnell has written to all Formula One teams with the figures the governing body would like to be set as a starting point for future discussions.

The figures proposed are 175 million Euro for 2009, 140 million by 2010, and 110 million a year later.

The cap would not cover expenditure on engines, KERS systems, marketing costs or driver and team principal salaries.


$110 million cost cap (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67410)

[Michaelhatesfans]

Nice to see that Max has fantasies that don't involve concentration camps.

Yes, no one in a hundred million dollar industry would ever be smart enough to find a way around Max's little brainstorm. What was Colin Chapman's outlook? The season starts the day that you receive the rule book...

This is just another rule to be exploited. What a waste of time.

"What? That guy? No, he works for Mercedes. That guy? Oh, he's just a consultant from Marlboro. Yeah, it's funny - we didn't realize that the PR rep from Vodafone had a doctorate in aerodynamics. We just let him sit in on team meetings for the fun of it. What a coincidence, eh?"

[Chaos]

swiss cheese

[Ankf00]

Tony Purnell can go diaf.

[ilferrari]

Yes, no one in a hundred million dollar industry would ever be smart enough to find a way around Max's little brainstorm. What was Colin Chapman's outlook? The season starts the day that you receive the rule book...


FIA president Max Mosley revealed earlier this year that a special 'finance commission' would be created to ensure the teams comply with the rules. :gomer:

[Ankf00]

how many commissions has that national socialist created thus far? next up, commission to monitor the monitoring commissions, commissioned to monitor

[Michaelhatesfans]

You vill follow zee ruleszzz!!!

[cameraman]

By 2015 F1 will be running DP03s with sealed Cosworth XFFs:rolleyes:

[oddlycalm]

What we need is an outside audit of the real cost of all Max's rule and regulation changes in the last dozen seasons. Then we need to ask "is the racing better and safer?" What you would likely find is that the cost is in the $ billions, safety has been improved very little and the racing isn't much changed.

I'm good with the knockout qualifying, though I was also good with open qualifying, and I'm good with no traction control. The rest of it has been nonsense.

oc

[nissan gtp]

more stupid from max :rolleyes:

[STD]

The racing was far better before Max.

[pchall]

The racing was far better before Max.

Yup. Everything Max has done to improve the racing has made it worse.

[robot9000]

So, what makes "Cost Reduction v23.7b" any different than his other cracks at it?

Customer cars, common ECU's, Common parts (suspention, brakes, transmissions) were the last "Great Thing" he was pushing.

F1 floats, adopts and ultimately forgets/drops more ideas than most series ever come up with.

[Chaos]

So, what makes "Cost Reduction v23.7b" any different than his other cracks at it?

Customer cars, common ECU's, Common parts (suspention, brakes, transmissions) were the last "Great Thing" he was pushing.

F1 floats, adopts and ultimately forgets/drops more ideas than most series ever come up with.

Those things you mentioned can be governed a lot easier than a cost cap.

[robot9000]

Oh, for sure! I just shake my head at how they take every problem and find the absolutely most complicated solution and try to push that forward.

Limit aero dev to a front wing and rear wing with a spec undertray, or something. I am sure there are lots of things that could help cost, and not ruin the show (unless you consider it exciting to watch 20 cars all running by themselves on huge tracks.).

These wacky ideas are all floated, with Max determined to move it forward, and then you never hear about it again.

Yet they still use those silly grooved tires (that don't have tuuubes according to Unka Bobby :-D )

[oddlycalm]

Limit aero dev to a front wing and rear wing with a spec undertray, or something.
Yeah, their move to severely restrict the aero and bring back slicks is the best thing in years along with the elimination of TC. Just losing TC has already had a positive effect IMO. With the aero sorted we should see quite a bit of sliding around and the mechanical grip from the slicks will fit with that nicely.

After that's done the biggest savings they could achieve would be to toss out Max and freeze the rules for 10yrs outside of anything safety related.

oc

[Ankf00]

After that's done the biggest savings they could achieve would be to toss out Max and freeze the rules for 10yrs outside of anything safety related.

oc

Palabra!