2009 rear wing.

[emjaya]

http://www.racefreaks.nl/images/550/qvunpmflrbuahncvolv.jpg

http://www.racefreaks.nl/images/550/neuwfyexqfyexsiohag.jpg

http://www.racefreaks.nl/images/550/lehjpvolrxqjgjpiolv.jpg

http://www.itv-f1.com/photo.aspx?IM_ID=50105&PG_ID=22

:saywhat:

[trish]

That's kinda ugly.

[eiregosod]

you'll get used to it

[Cam]

Max can't DIAF soon enough. :flame:

[opinionated ow]

That is possibly the stupidest thing I have ever seen.

[rosawendel]

I think part of its stupidity is how high it is. if it were lower it woldn't look so stupid.
was it the arrows that had the high wing up on the nose a few years back?

[Cam]

I think part of its stupidity is how high it is. if it were lower it woldn't look so stupid.
was it the arrows that had the high wing up on the nose a few years back?

Yes. Lost Boys.

[Methanolandbrats]

Won't a tall, skinny wing make as much turbulence as a low, wide wing? Is this another "improve the overtaking" improvement? This has been one of the best seasons in a long time, what needs improving?

[Accipiter]

When they design a complete car with that wing in in mind, it might look a bit better than it does pasted on this car. Maybe... Hopefully... Probably not.

[pchall]

When they design a complete car with that wing in in mind, it might look a bit better than it does pasted on this car. Maybe... Hopefully... Probably not.

Hey, when the current front wings look like labial folds, why shouldn't the rear wing look like a chubby?

[Methanolandbrats]

Hey, when the current front wings look like labial folds, why shouldn't the rear wing look like a chubby? The school of roast beef aero.

[Cam]

Won't a tall, skinny wing make as much turbulence as a low, wide wing? Is this another "improve the overtaking" improvement? This has been one of the best seasons in a long time, what needs improving?

You would think that with the re-intro of slick tyres next season the retards would take a lets see what happens attitude.... But nooooo.... Wholesale changesRus. Idiots. :rolleyes:

[stroker]

As long as they dump all the fences and winglets and bargeboards I don't care how wide the rear wing is.

[opinionated ow]

You would think that with the re-intro of slick tyres next season the retards would take a lets see what happens attitude.... But nooooo.... Wholesale changesRus. Idiots. :rolleyes:

Why couldn't they just limit the number of mainplanes and flaps on the wing structures? That would have been soooo much easier and cleaned the cars up tenfold.

[Cam]

Why couldn't they just limit the number of mainplanes and flaps on the wing structures? That would have been soooo much easier and cleaned the cars up tenfold.

I just want to see a return to more mechanical grip and not aero.

[devilmaster]

that just looks soooo wrong. :laugh:

[Insomniac]

That wing is way too high. :yuck:

[G.]

That wing is way too high. :yuck:Will it clear the tunnel at Monaco??

[TrueBrit]

Good grief is that ugly...:yuck:

[grungex]

http://gallery.oldholden.com/d/55889-1/wing07.jpg

[devilmaster]

http://gallery.oldholden.com/d/55889-1/wing07.jpg

is that o'gormans? :confused:

[Insomniac]

Will it clear the tunnel at Monaco??

Maybe the plan is to go full electric and they're evolving to the bumper car powered model.

[oddlycalm]

Stylin'...:cool: :rofl: This is Max getting even with the teams after they called for him to step down. :\

oc

[miatanut]

Won't a tall, skinny wing make as much turbulence as a low, wide wing? Is this another "improve the overtaking" improvement? This has been one of the best seasons in a long time, what needs improving?

I read somewhere a while back that F1 had put together some kind of Blue Ribbon Panel (oh boy!) of successful F1 car designers (I've forgotten who) to study the following car turbulence issue, including wind tunnel testing their initial concepts, and this change is supposed to reduce the problem.

I do think that view is ugly but we'll get used to it.
http://www.todo-f1.com/photoplog/images/464/large/1_76voi-Ligier_js5.jpg
If we got used to this one (I know I did), we can get used to anything!

[Dirk Diggler]

Hey, when the current front wings look like labial folds, why shouldn't the rear wing look like a chubby?

Mmmmmm..... labial folds...

[pchall]

I do think that view is ugly but we'll get used to it.
http://www.todo-f1.com/photoplog/images/464/large/1_76voi-Ligier_js5.jpg
If we got used to this one (I know I did), we can get used to anything!

I never got used to the hideous schnorkels of the 70s. Apparently the FIA didn't either, since they did rewrite the regs to eliminate them for the 1977 season (as I recall).

[ilferrari]

This is why I was hoping the sex scandal would mean the back of Max Mosley. He's spent most of his time as FIA president ruining the configuration of F1 cars. He's such an @$$hole.

[ilferrari]

I do think that view is ugly but we'll get used to it.
http://www.todo-f1.com/photoplog/images/464/large/1_76voi-Ligier_js5.jpg
If we got used to this one (I know I did), we can get used to anything!

Well, those were pioneering days... F1 cars got progressively nicer until Mosley starting bastardizing them. The 2009 rear wing is clearly out-of-proportion to the shape of the rear of the car.

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w179/126c2/morbidelli.jpg

[Cam]

is that o'gormans? :confused:

Nahhh.... This is o'gormans...

[Andrew Longman]

More to it than just the rear wing

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=44140

[Gnam]

Moveable aero devices? :eek:


Drivers will also be able to make two front wing adjustments per lap from the cockpit to maximise their car's performance when slipstreaming and outbraking

[Methanolandbrats]

Moveable aero devices? :eek:
Do they have to pay Jim Hall a royalty? :confused:

[Insomniac]

Up to twice per lap? What kind of gimmick is this? The raised rear wing is already going to take getting used to, now they have a weird system to adjust the front wing. Is this going to turn in F1's version of p2p? Kimi has used his wing adjustment this lap, Lewis can still adjust his once!

[Gnam]

Wonder if the "outbraking" setting on the front wing will include "Full Flaps."

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3883/737zo5.jpg

[Accipiter]

Wait, it gets worse:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/photos/2008/tests117/diapo_150.jpg

:yuck:

[cameraman]

Did they mandate a flat front wing too:confused:

[Methanolandbrats]

http://www.cdgoodgood.com/english/uppic/23495200716239_1.gif

[Insomniac]

Wait, it gets worse:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/photos/2008/tests117/diapo_150.jpg

:yuck:

It sure does. :( Only the on track product could justify that look.

[ilferrari]

http://www.autosport.com/images/upload/1226932554.jpg

:thumdown::yuck:

The FIA told us that it will just be a question of getting used to the look of the cars. Yeah right, tell that to Pininfarina or any car stylist. The wings are totally out of proportion to the shape of the cars.

[pchall]

Hey, it's an F1 crapwagon!

[Chaos]

hideous

[nissan gtp]

the racing better be f'ing brilliant, because those cars are embarrassing :shakehead

[JLMannin]

Hey, it's an F1 crapwagon!

Exactly what I thought when I saw the highest point of the sidepods were the outside edges.

Swap the front and rear wing sizes, and it would look better. Can someone photoshop a prototype? :)

[Michaelhatesfans]

:yuck::shakehead

I predict that this will be a good year for vintage racing.

[Michaelhatesfans]

the racing better be f'ing brilliant, because those cars are embarrassing :shakehead

It has all the potential to suck, actually. New wings and tires means that everyone will be starting from scratch rather than evolving. The best racing generally comes after a period of rules stability.

I hope I'm wrong.:cry:

[opinionated ow]

It has all the potential to suck, actually. New wings and tires means that everyone will be starting from scratch rather than evolving. The best racing generally comes after a period of rules stability.

I hope I'm wrong.:cry:

I genuinely believe it will work.
Read this:
http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft20831.html

[formulaben]

http://gallery.oldholden.com/d/55889-1/wing07.jpg

I just love seeing rear wings on a FWD car...:shakehead

Modern-day dunce cap. :tony:

[Indy]

Wait, it gets worse:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/photos/2008/tests117/diapo_150.jpg

:yuck:

You have to be kidding.

I can see that I have been overly optimistic about their future. :laugh:

[Michaelhatesfans]

I genuinely believe it will work.
Read this:
http://www.grandprix.com/ft/ft20831.html

Yeah, well, like I said, I'll be thrilled if I'm wrong. But I don't share your optimism.

There are a lot of big changes coming in this year. Some of the teams will adapt well and some will just miss the freaking boat altogether - if you want to slipstream, great, but you've got to be close enough to do it, and if you're too far off the pace then it won't help you.

Add to that that most of the places where you could really make use of slipstreaming are now gone. These regulations might have been useful before they tore up half of Hockenheim, trimmed Silverstone into a series of esses, moved away from the fast circuits of France, dropped Canada......

We'll see.

[ilferrari]

The basic problem is that the following car loses its front downforce following another car in a corner. Why not just shift the balance of the tire grip to the front (for example by narrowing the rear tires)? That would cause the teams to run less front wing and more rear wing to get their balance.

[Andrew Longman]

If I understand it correctly the issue not being able to overtake due to turbulence off the rear wing is being "solved" by making the front wing wider to get it out into cleaner air and the read wing narrower and higher to get the turbulence out of the way of the following rear wing.

I do however like that they've done away with the little aero twisty bit do dads. I hate those.

[Don Quixote]

I do however like that they've done away with the little aero twisty bit do dads. I hate those. Those will come later, you can bank on it!

[Andrew Longman]

Those will come later, you can bank on it!

I think by rule they have done away with them

[Hard Driver]

Wait, it gets worse:

http://www.f1-live.com/f1/photos/2008/tests117/diapo_150.jpg

:yuck:

Fricking Awful looking car. :irked:

[Methanolandbrats]

Fricking Awful looking car. :irked: That is f'n hideous. A whole grid of those? :yuck::yuck: How about taking a Sawzall and cutting all that **** off and then run them.

[trish]

I don't think it's that bad looking. :o

[stroker]

I don't think it's that bad looking. :o

I'm with you. The flat front wing looks like a junior formula, and the rear wing looks out of proportion, but the lack of winglets and bargeboards is a significant improvement.

[coolhand]

I don't see what the big deal is. I just hope it works.

[opinionated ow]

I think they will grow on us...

[cameraman]

We survived this just fine.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/Cynops/Tyrrell.jpg

It ain't that all that bad.

[trish]

9/21/08
That's kinda ugly.

11/23/08
I don't think it's that bad looking. :o

I just realized that it didn't take long for me to get used to it. :D

[STD]

We survived this just fine.

It ain't that all that bad.

Survived quite well and happy in an open formula compared to today's increasingly closed shop.

I will like the slicks back on track and the ugly appendages gone. The rest will just have to do for now.

[Indy]

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/Cynops/Tyrrell.jpg


Yeah, but that was innovation. Well, an attempt at innovation.

Now we get betterer and betterer formula crapwagons.

[cameraman]

Yeah, but that was innovation. Well, an attempt at innovation.

Now we get betterer and betterer formula crapwagons.

Yet the cars are every bit as fast or faster and the racing is closer than ever. There was quite a bit to see if you had bothered to watch this year.

[Methanolandbrats]

Yet the cars are every bit as fast or faster and the racing is closer than ever. There was quite a bit to see if you had bothered to watch this year. Yup, all they had to do was put slicks on em for 09 and they would have braked later and cornered harder and it would not have cost more money.....but true to form the azznozzles in charge are gonna fix it.

[Insomniac]

Yup, all they had to do was put slicks on em for 09 and they would have braked later and cornered harder and it would not have cost more money.....but true to form the azznozzles in charge are gonna fix it.

And remove all the winglets.