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pchall
12-26-08, 07:55 AM
Mosley is making a massive hedge on the spec engine plan already:


FIA president Max Mosley believes that the principal of freezing engine development will continue to hold sway in Formula One, despite his much-vaunted push for a single 'spec' engine in the top flight.

The latest step in Mosley's 'masterplan', the announcement that long-time F1 supplier Cosworth had secured the tender for any future one-make engine, coincided with - and was therefore overshadowed by - the surprise exit of Honda from the top flight, but the president has since admitted that he does not see the British manufacturer having a monopoly over engine supply.

"The plan, of course, was not so much a single engine, as for a single level of performance and a much cheaper engine," he told the official F1 website, "This will become increasingly necessary if we lose any more manufacturers. The withdrawal of Honda was a surprise. They were good enough to inform us in confidence four days before announcing it, but they would have been one of the last teams I would have expected to withdraw."

Admitting that the fear of losing more manufacturer teams from F1 had been part of the reason for his push towards uniformity on the engine front, Mosley conceded that the exact path to be taken by the category had still to be determined, with some of the staunchest manufacturers threatening to pull out if the spec engine plan is implemented. Alternative suggestions have included allowing the manufacturers to formulate their own method of ensuring that enough low-cost engines are available for customer teams, and allowing the manufacturers to build and badge powerplants to the same spec as that being proposed by Cosworth.

Later on in the article Mosley tries to rationalize the expense of the KERS development and speaks of it as essentially 6 seconds a lap of P2P.

Wouldn't it all be much more simple to just keep the current 2.4L V8 formula and contain costs and constrain performance with an air restrictor and rev limiter package? That could even put Cosworth back in the game with their shelved V8 project as a possible alternative engine for non factory teams.



full text at Crash.net (http://www.crash.net/motorsport/f1/news/172877-1/mosley_foresees_continued_freeze.html)

opinionated ow
12-26-08, 08:29 AM
I'm not convinced that this problem even exists! If you curtail engine spending, the $$$ won't change. If you curtail aerodynamic spending, it still won't make a difference! All this is unmitigated bull**** designed as a result of an uninterested dictator's murdering of the commercial aspects of the sport let down by the nazi leader of the sport's governing body. Honestly if all this happens, Formula One will lose all its fans. GUARANTEED!

I heard a programme about F1 on BBC5 in which Max said that the fans can't tell the difference in the sounds of the engine or what anything looks like under the paintjob, so therefore we can make it all the same without it impacting the product. Who the **** does he think he is kidding!

Insomniac
12-26-08, 11:44 AM
Engine spending is already done. The engines are frozen. They have a 2 race minimum. The only testing left may be to improve reliability. But even then, to substitute a part, they need FIA approval. They have a spec ECU, so presumably no more ability to turn off half the engine while idling or under caution.

oddlycalm
12-26-08, 07:10 PM
Later on in the article Mosley tries to rationalize the expense of the KERS development and speaks of it as essentially 6 seconds a lap of P2P.

Absolutely, the answer to a question nobody asked at a massive cost. On the other hand adding 6 sec/lap of P2P (via increased revs) to the common ECU would have cost essentially nothing.

oc

STD
12-26-08, 09:32 PM
KERS = cost cutting the proven Mosley way. :rofl:
If it only was the first such misadventure by Max... :gomer:
KERS should be scraped now instead of becoming a spec package as it will in the very near future. And as gimmicky as P2P ever was.
I worry much less about the teams compared to the inept rules makers that have been ruining F1 since 1993.

oddlycalm
12-27-08, 09:27 PM
Luca di Montezemolo on KERS, cost cutting and urban races:

"The KERS is a mistake.... KERS is the biggest part of F1 spending for 2009"

"I don't think we need more boats, historic skylines. I think we need more race tracks where it's possible to overtake, where the public can enjoy the competition... Real tracks, not touristic tracks.


KERS is a mistake (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72576)

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nissan gtp
12-28-08, 09:10 AM
Luca di Montezemolo on KERS, cost cutting and urban races:

KERS is a mistake (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72576)

oc

translation: Ferrari's KERS isn't ready.

Methanolandbrats
12-28-08, 10:09 AM
Luca is 100% correct on all counts. KERS is a stupid waste of money and street races suck.