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TKGAngel
02-13-09, 02:08 PM
Another week, another plane crash. This one doesn't have the happy ending, however. :cry:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29173163

dando
02-13-09, 02:19 PM
I thought about y'all when I heard the news this AM. :( Glad to hear it wasn't your house.

-Kevin

TKGAngel
02-13-09, 07:37 PM
Thanks.

The neighborhood in question is a very quaint residential area. I'm amazed the plane only hit one house. The potential for this to be so much worse was huge.

Between the crash and the arrest of a dude who beheaded his wife last night, it's been a banner day in the Buff.

Indy
02-13-09, 09:29 PM
Between the crash and the arrest of a dude who beheaded his wife last night, it's been a banner day in the Buff.

http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/578644.html


Police identified the victim as Aasiya Z. Hassan, 37. Detectives have charged her husband, Muzzammil Hassan, 44, with second-degree murder.


Muzzammil Hassan is the founder and chief executive officer of Bridges TV, which he launched in 2004, amid hopes that it would help portray Muslims in a more positive light.

:laugh:

I shouldn't laugh. I mean, the whore probably showed a little elbow. She deserved it.

trish
02-13-09, 09:39 PM
I woke up some time before 3 am this morning to see this news scrolling across the bottom of the tv screen. So sad. :(

RHR_Fan
02-13-09, 10:30 PM
I saw this right before I went to bed at about 11:00 CT. Since the plane crashed at 9'something my time I for sure thought I would have heard something earlier, even if it was "a plan has crashed near Buffalo; more details when available." When I saw the pictures late last night I thought the worst and unfortunately was right. :(

nrc
02-14-09, 06:27 PM
Very sad, but it's pretty amazing that it's been 2 1/2 years since a fatality in a commercial air accident in the U.S.

An NTSB investigator says that the plane didn't nose dive into the house but appears to have hit flat and pointing the wrong direction. Sounds very much like a flat spin, probably the result of the icing that was reported. One report said that the plane's deicing equipment was active so they'll probably focus on whether it was functional.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hpSZzqkNMwZvX2xrejSSUOyBGCYgD96BJHR00

Methanolandbrats
02-14-09, 07:58 PM
http://www.buffalonews.com/494/story/578644.html





:laugh:

I shouldn't laugh. I mean, the whore probably showed a little elbow. She deserved it.:D

opinionated ow
02-14-09, 08:27 PM
Very sad, but it's pretty amazing that it's been 2 1/2 years since a fatality in a commercial air accident in the U.S.

An NTSB investigator says that the plane didn't nose dive into the house but appears to have hit flat and pointing the wrong direction. Sounds very much like a flat spin, probably the result of the icing that was reported. One report said that the plane's deicing equipment was active so they'll probably focus on whether it was functional.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hpSZzqkNMwZvX2xrejSSUOyBGCYgD96BJHR00

I concur

G.
02-14-09, 09:39 PM
:laugh:

I shouldn't laugh. I mean, the whore probably showed a little elbow. She deserved it.


Detectives have charged her husband, Muzzammil Hassan, 44, with second-degree murder.

Second-degree? SECOND-DEGREE??

"Honey, I hear Buffalo's nice in the spring."

(there must be a lot not stated in the story.)

TKGAngel
02-14-09, 10:36 PM
My favorite part of that article was this quote from our DA:

"Obviously, this is the worst form of domestic violence possible,"

YA THINK? :saywhat:

Cam
02-14-09, 11:09 PM
Muzzammil Hassan is the founder and chief executive officer of Bridges TV, which he launched in 2004, amid hopes that it would help portray Muslims in a more positive light.

FAIL! :eek:

Insomniac
02-15-09, 01:17 PM
Video about tailplane icing for anyone who wanted to know more about it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2238323060735779946

trish
02-15-09, 02:22 PM
Video about tailplane icing for anyone who wanted to know more about it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2238323060735779946

I just saw a story that the plane that crashed was on autopilot. According to that video they probably had no indication until it was too late.

oddlycalm
02-15-09, 05:06 PM
Video about tailplane icing for anyone who wanted to know more about it.

Good chance that if the flight crew had reviewed that video last week they'd be here now. Deicing active + autopilot engaged = big problem when they hit the flaps during their decent.

This class of aircraft in known icing conditions makes me want to be on the ground. :(

oc

trish
02-15-09, 07:01 PM
More information keesp trickling out. The plane dropped 800 feet in 5 seconds.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090215/ap_on_re_us/plane_into_home

opinionated ow
02-16-09, 12:26 AM
More information keesp trickling out. The plane dropped 800 feet in 5 seconds.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090215/ap_on_re_us/plane_into_home

Got to have been ice acretion. I could be wrong but I think the DHC-8 use de-icing boots rather than an anti-ice bleed air system. Which gets me thinking, had the guy broken off some ice and tried to use the de-icing boots as an anti-ice measure. If he had, the ice would just have formed over the top of them, rendering them useless.

Insomniac
02-16-09, 12:39 PM
Good chance that if the flight crew had reviewed that video last week they'd be here now. Deicing active + autopilot engaged = big problem when they hit the flaps during their decent.

This class of aircraft in known icing conditions makes me want to be on the ground. :(

oc

The early information does make it seem avoidable. :(