The Battle Is Joined [Archive]

NismoZ

02-26-09, 09:52 AM

Danica 14th, Milka 15th. I guess Ms. Patrick is hanging back to show her friend Milka the way around. Only the first test, but... Of course the Bobby D car, Matos and Wilson were even further down. Oh, and Tiger is back!

Methanolandbrats

02-26-09, 10:55 AM

They ran a whole day and still have 22 cars? Are the f'n wings even bigger this year?

Don Quixote

02-26-09, 11:04 AM

Danica's car must be bad, and her crew is letting her down.

Methanolandbrats

02-26-09, 11:21 AM

Danica's car must be bad, and her crew is letting her down. No, it's her fault this time....her head is not into the test........she's daydreaming about passing Hamilton in the tunnel at Monaco on the way to the 2010 WDC.

Don Quixote

02-26-09, 11:28 AM

:rofl:

pchall

02-26-09, 04:14 PM

Danica's car must be bad, and her crew is letting her down.

I'd have posted that, too... :gomer:

shaggy_socal

02-26-09, 05:46 PM

When you combine the practice reports, Danica winds up in 15th and Milka in 17th with a .04 difference in fastest lap time.

Could be an interesting season for Danica if the testing results carry over into the season.

NismoZ

02-26-09, 06:16 PM

Yep, the closer those two run the better the entertainment.:)

Methanolandbrats

02-26-09, 06:39 PM

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2008/0829/rpm_a_fight_580.jpg

....only this time with nails and lots of big clumps of long black hair pulled out and blowing along the track...............:thumbup:

Sean Malone

02-26-09, 10:25 PM

What is there to test??? Maybe to see if the crew guys are sober enough to remember to gas up those pigs? What a joke.

Methanolandbrats

02-26-09, 10:27 PM

What is there to test??? Maybe to see if the crew guys are sober enough to remember to gas up those pigs? What a joke.
Good point, are they the same *****oxes they ran last year?

NismoZ

02-27-09, 12:00 AM

And the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before, and the year before. And the year before. Innovation and progress in racing.:tony: ( but then there WAS the attenuator, longitudinal flap, ethanol and actual bitch slapping. New stuff!)

miatanut

02-27-09, 12:02 AM

And the year before, and the year before, and the year before....
If they wanted to make it interesting, they could make it open only to the "transition" teams.

Not that I care, anymore.

miatanut

02-27-09, 12:03 AM

NismoZ

02-27-09, 10:09 AM

Oh...and mufflers.

High Sided

02-27-09, 10:36 AM

don't forget the 5th generation mirrors

Methanolandbrats

02-27-09, 10:38 AM

Oh...and mufflers.
Maybe that's what they are testing to make sure the sleds don't ignite from the heat..................remember the ultra loud Mazda GTP that went up in flames at Miami when the muffler was added?:laugh:

Sean Malone

02-27-09, 10:40 AM

Oh...and mufflers.

Any word on how they sound?

High Sided

02-27-09, 10:49 AM

Any word on how they sound?

robin said that you could carry on conversation with them running yesterday...

[Comment From E] How is the sound of the new exhaust on the Indycars? Big difference?

Robin Miller: It helps a lot. You can actually carry on a conversation on pit lane, for a change.

Wheel-Nut

02-27-09, 10:49 AM

Good point, are they the same *****oxes they ran last year?

Penske and Floyd need to test to try the new arrow mods done during the offseason.

Foyt & Vision need the test to make sure the truck drivers can still leave a full paddock early without hitting anything.

pchall

02-27-09, 11:25 AM

don't forget the 5th generation mirrors

Those mirrors will never work.

NismoZ

02-27-09, 06:24 PM

C'mon. Nobody uses 'em anyway. Outside. Outside. Outside. CLEAR...I think!

Wally

02-27-09, 07:26 PM

Penske and Floyd need to test to try the new arrow mods done during the offseason.

Foyt & Vision need the test to make sure the truck drivers can still leave a full paddock early without hitting anything.

:D........:laugh:

oddlycalm

03-02-09, 04:26 PM

Any word on how they sound?

Beyond pathetic. When they came on Speed Report I didn't know what the sound was at first, then it sunk in; they sound like muted RC airplanes or something you would hear at the dentists office, at least on TV. The reason I hadn't made the mental connection between the sound and a car on screen is that it doesn't sound anything like any car I've even heard, certainly not a race car. But hey, the "fans" won't know the difference...:D

You can hear them in this video clip at the 1:28 mark.

mL2e3F5yzjM

oc

Andrew Longman

03-02-09, 05:10 PM

Methanolandbrats

03-02-09, 06:50 PM

I made it 21 seconds in and was overwhelmed by WGAFism.

03-02-09, 09:31 PM

For the first time I think, I will disagree with OC. They sound far better than in the past. Sounds like the Acura LMP2 car last year... BUT its hard to tell from that sampling. The only true test is in person... and nothing will compare to the turbo whine.

I never wore ear plugs for turbos - but major had to for past IRL - this is a good thing - especially for the children!!

wha'd you say?

ow

03-02-09, 10:19 PM

at 56 57 58 59 seconds - you hear the wind over the engine.
Ive been live to hear that...
Interesting that the camera coverage picked it up

Methanolandbrats

03-02-09, 10:20 PM

I never wore ear plugs for turbos - but major had to for past IRL - this is a good thing - especially for the children!!

wha'd you say?

ow Earplugs or not, children should not be exposed to the IRL. :shakehead

03-02-09, 10:29 PM

Earplugs or not, children should not be exposed to the IRL. :shakehead

CORRECT!!!! Take your kids to Melbourne..you still have time...

Dvdb

03-02-09, 10:30 PM

Really?

Free Colon Cleanser ad on the video??

really?????

Dvdb

03-02-09, 10:32 PM

No...................really????

Gnam

03-06-09, 10:03 PM

pressdog (http://pressdog.typepad.com/dogblog/2009/03/teams-report-weeping-copious-tears-for-danica.html) coverage of Danica's "struggle" to middle. :laugh:

Gnam

03-10-09, 01:04 PM

FoxSports weeps for Danica.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/pgStory?contentId=9245686&MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002#sport=News&photo=9237200

OH! The humanity! :shakehead

Insomniac

03-10-09, 02:16 PM

FoxSports weeps for Danica.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/pgStory?contentId=9245686&MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002#sport=News&photo=9237200

OH! The humanity! :shakehead

Wait, what else is she supposed to get attention for? Shouldn't it be the other way? She gets too much attention for the non-accomplishments. Wouldn't most people want to be her? To get more money and attention than so many for accomplishing less?

KLang

03-10-09, 02:40 PM

FoxSports weeps for Danica.

http://msn.foxsports.com/other/pgStory?contentId=9245686&MSNHPHCP&GT1=39002#sport=News&photo=9237200

OH! The humanity! :shakehead

Danica Patrick is an extremely talented race car driver, among the best open wheelers in the world today.

I'm reminded of one reason I don't care about racing anymore. :yuck:

Andrew Longman

03-10-09, 04:36 PM

I'm reminded of one reason I don't care about racing anymore. :yuck:

You know this time of year in 2001 at spring testing Lola debuted the B03.00. That was the last season I could anticipate what the new cars would look/perform like.

Since then its only been a wonder of who actually will be able to show up.

oddlycalm

03-10-09, 05:46 PM

pressdog (http://pressdog.typepad.com/dogblog/2009/03/teams-report-weeping-copious-tears-for-danica.html) coverage of Danica's "struggle" to middle. :laugh:

Yep, for pressdog she's the gift that keeps on giving. :D

oc

Rogue Leader

03-11-09, 12:24 AM

Danica Patrick is an extremely talented race car driver, among the best open wheelers in the world today. But she'll never get the recognition for it. Danica makes news when she poses in a swimsuit mag, or dishes for Maxim, or gets in a catfight on pit row with another female driver. Patrick is deserving of our utmost appreciation as an athlete. All she gets is attention for her looks. It can't be an easy plight for a dedicated sportswoman.

Uhhmmmm.... WHAT??!?!?!?!?!

trish

03-11-09, 12:37 AM

Danica gets exactly the kind of attention she wants for what she wants....$$$

Chief

03-11-09, 02:13 PM

I never wore ear plugs for turbos - but major had to for past IRL - this is a good thing - especially for the children!!
Oh yeah....you shoulda heard them old single-sided Toyota turbos pointed at you if you had the pleasure to be at the concrete barrier back in the early 2000's. I've got video to prove the wretched sound they made....like a 150dB steel rod being slammed into your brain through the ear canal. It hurt!

Andrew Longman

03-12-09, 05:38 AM

Oh yeah....you shoulda heard them old single-sided Toyota turbos pointed at you if you had the pleasure to be at the concrete barrier back in the early 2000's. I've got video to prove the wretched sound they made....like a 150dB steel rod being slammed into your brain through the ear canal. It hurt!

Dunno. Sounds pretty good to me http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d2f_1210201049 :D

opinionated ow

03-12-09, 07:39 AM

Dunno. Sounds pretty good to me http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d2f_1210201049 :D

Thanks for that...what a purely orgasmic sound that was.

Andrew Longman

03-12-09, 07:46 AM

Thanks for that...what a purely orgasmic sound that was.

Make sure you clean up after yourself. :D

Sad we may never hear anything like that again. I love the part where the start up the engine. And the part of going up through the gears. And the part of coming down through the gears. :gomer:

opinionated ow

03-12-09, 07:57 AM

Make sure you clean up after yourself. :D

Sad we may never hear anything like that again. I love the part where the start up the engine. And the part of going up through the gears. And the part of coming down through the gears. :gomer:

Got my box of Sorbent by my side :p:rofl: (do they sell them in the USA?)

My favourite sounds in the world are in no particular order...

-Champcar turbos of the late 1990s with the stratospheric rev limits
-Formula 3 engines
-Caterham Superlight R500
-Zonda F
-Any Formula 1 engine ever
-Renault World Series motors
-Fontana midget engine
-Aston Martin DBR9
-Judd 5.0L V10 Sportscar engine.

I think one thing shows up there, I'm not really a V8 sort of person...

Elmo T

03-12-09, 08:32 AM

Oh yeah....you shoulda heard them old single-sided Toyota turbos

I remember hearing them for the first time at Nazareth. They were notably louder, but not unappealing - like a mechanical fire truck siren ;) . I guess beauty is in the ear of the beholder...

Every now and then my iPod offers up a Champ Car Exhaust Notes track. :thumbup:

High Sided

03-12-09, 09:48 AM

Oh yeah....you shoulda heard them old single-sided Toyota turbos pointed at you...like a 150dB steel rod being slammed into your brain through the ear canal. It hurt!

you just described my first encounter with a champcar. i learned real quick to cover my ear facing the track while walking next to it at gateway, ouch!
up in the stands it sounded and smelled like heaven

nothing could top my first encouner with an irl car. that puked sound of the aurora bouncing of the rev limiter the entire front stretch at gateway. :yuck:

NismoZ

03-12-09, 10:29 AM

Yeah, that single-sided thing, Chicago Paperclip open test.:D DaMatta had everybody shaking their heads. 16k+ revs. TB knows what I'm talkin' about!:thumbup:

High Sided

03-12-09, 10:31 AM

is the single sided turbo what i heard at gateway?

Chief

03-12-09, 12:56 PM

I guess beauty is in the ear of the beholder...
Turn three (outside) at Toronto...about 4 feet away at the wall they were ear shattering. I was referencing the wretched loudness.....the smell of methanol and note of the turbo song is entirely another thing, akin to a Pavlov experiment for OW fans. Sadly I miss it all.:(

oddlycalm

03-12-09, 03:01 PM

the smell of methanol and note of the turbo song is entirely another thing, akin to a Pavlov experiment for OW fans. Sadly I miss it all.:(
Yes, and words fail. There's is a bit of an exhale with each gear change going up through the gears. Sometime it goes pop, but mostly it's just the "p" without the "op" on the end. Sigh....

Another sound I love is the big inline 6 sports cars from the early 60's era. The D Jags, Aston Martins, etc. sounded incredible. Going to Waterford Hills to watch them were the high points of the summer.

oc

Michaelhatesfans

03-12-09, 03:08 PM

My favourite sounds in the world are in no particular order...

-Champcar turbos of the late 1990s with the stratospheric rev limits
-Formula 3 engines
-Caterham Superlight R500
-Zonda F
-Any Formula 1 engine ever
-Renault World Series motors
-Fontana midget engine
-Aston Martin DBR9
-Judd 5.0L V10 Sportscar engine.

I'd have to add a Porsche 917. Oh, and a tie fighter.

TKGAngel

03-12-09, 06:23 PM

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d2f_1210201049 :D

That's a sight for sore ears. I wish the cars still sounded like that.

stroker

03-12-09, 07:28 PM

Another sound I love is the big inline 6 sports cars from the early 60's era. The D Jags, Aston Martins, etc. sounded incredible. Going to Waterford Hills to watch them were the high points of the summer.
oc

back 'round '73 there was an endurance race at Road America and the factory BMW CSL was there. Can't remember if it was David Hobbs or Hans Stuck pitching it around Turn 6 but the damn thing just made the hair on the back of your neck stand up.

emjaya

03-12-09, 07:50 PM

back 'round '73 there was an endurance race at Road America and the factory BMW CSL was there. Can't remember if it was David Hobbs or Hans Stuck pitching it around Turn 6 but the damn thing just made the hair on the back of your neck stand up.

The JPS 635CSI's in the Oz touring cars, 84-85, were the same.

NismoZ

03-12-09, 08:01 PM

You may laugh, but back in '68 the SCCA DP Corvairs had a GREAT exhaust note. Sounded more like Porsches than a Porsche!:D

pchall

03-12-09, 09:33 PM

I agree about the "wretched loudness". After years of turbocharged V8s having one bank open to the atmosphere was intolerably loud to me. Those Toyotas made me go out to my car and get ear plugs out of my toolbox. From a good distance it way tolerable and even wonderful, but at trackside it just hurt.

Turn three (outside) at Toronto...about 4 feet away at the wall they were ear shattering. I was referencing the wretched loudness.....the smell of methanol and note of the turbo song is entirely another thing, akin to a Pavlov experiment for OW fans. Sadly I miss it all.:(

03-12-09, 10:59 PM

I used to ask the Toyota guys to blast an airhorn to warn us before they fired them up in the paddock. You could be right next to a Honda engine but when the Toy started up, it just hurt. And it wasn't really just your eardrums. It hurt your teeth, body and soul.

Saw a clip (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6d9_1202731465) on liveleak from Road America.

**** you, Tony. **** you.

Andrew Longman

03-12-09, 11:50 PM

Saw a clip (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6d9_1202731465) on liveleak from Road America.

**** you, Tony. **** you.

My last race at RA. Great weekend. Flew in with the boys.

Yes, FU tony.

mapguy

03-13-09, 05:10 AM

My most memorable sound was listening to one of Bob Tullius' Group 44 Jags coming up the Andretti straight and lifting before turn 10 at Mosport. Glorious. Also any of the 935K3's. The whistle-pop and then belch of flame was really cool to a 12 year old...

patski

03-13-09, 10:57 AM

nrc

03-13-09, 11:03 AM

Gnam

03-13-09, 12:35 PM

more V8 please: :thumbup:
ALMS GT1 Corvette - 7.0L
Speed World Challenge GT Cadillac - 6.0L

chop456

03-13-09, 01:09 PM

Saw a clip (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6d9_1202731465) on liveleak from Road America.

That's only good because Tony had already been fixing things for 8 years. :thumbup:

pchall

03-13-09, 02:27 PM

and the "chirp" of the 962s.

You mean the tire chirp from the understeer they all had, not a tweety bird in the turbo outlet, right? ;)

Indy

03-15-09, 12:33 AM

Dunno. Sounds pretty good to me http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d2f_1210201049 :D

It's that CART time of year, and I have nothing but

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2928/hate.tif (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hate.tif)

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

patski

03-15-09, 12:36 PM

It's that CART time of year, and I have nothing but

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2928/hate.tif (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hate.tif)

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Sure is an excellent example of what we are missing out on. Tnks Toney!!