The Foyt Futility Watch -- Long Beach Edition

[pchall]

I never thought that there'd be a Futility Watch for the Long Beach Grand Prix. There probably won't be too many, though, since I think the IRL will destroy this event in just a couple of attempts to run there.

This weekend's Futility Watch anti-heroes appear in boldface.

Car Driver Hometown Car Name

2 Raphael Matos (R) Belo Horizonte, Brazil US Air Force
3 Will Power Toowoomba, Australia Team Penske
4 Dan Wheldon Emberton, England National Guard Panther Racing
5 Mario Moraes Sao Paulo, Brazil KV Racing Technology/Votorantim
6 Ryan Briscoe Sydney, Australia Team Penske
7 Danica Patrick Roscoe, Ill. Motorola Andretti Green Racing
9 Scott Dixon Auckland, New Zealand Target Chip Ganassi Racing
10 Dario Franchitti Edinburgh, Scotland Target Chip Ganassi Racing
11 Tony Kanaan Salvador, Brazil Team 7-Eleven / Dr. Pepper
13 E.J. Viso Caracas, Venezuela PDVSA
14 Vitor Meira Brasilia, Brazil ABC Supply Co.
18 Justin Wilson Sheffield, England Z-Line Designs
20 Ed Carpenter Indianapolis Menards/Vision Racing
21 Ryan Hunter-Reay* Boca Raton, Fla. Vision Racing
23 Darren Manning North Yorkshire, England Dreyer & Reinbold Racing
24 Mike Conway (R) Bromley, England Dreyer & Reinbold Racing
26 Marco Andretti Nazareth, Pa. Automatic Fire Sprinklers
27 Hideki Mutoh Tokyo Formula Dream Andretti Green Racing Kim Green
34 Alex Tagliani Lachenaie, Quebec Conquest Racing Conquest Racing
98 Stanton Barrett (R) Bishop, Calif. Interush Racing CURB/Agajanian
02 Graham Rahal New Albany, Ohio McDonald’s Racing Team
06 Robert Doornbos (R) Rotterdam, Netherlands Newman/Haas/Lanigan

* sorry Fnut ;)

[Tim]

Long Beach was a terrible CC track so it will be even worse now.

[pchall]

The track (75-81) did get worse as the city redeveloped the area. The original F1 circuit was much better -- the Linden Avenue section and the hairpin to hairpin run on Shoreline were great.


Long Beach was a terrible CC track so it will be even worse now.

[Winston Wolfe]

The track (75-81) did get worse as the city redeveloped the area. The original F1 circuit was much better -- the Linden Avenue section and the hairpin to hairpin run on Shoreline were great.

wasnt that when Clay Reggazoni crashed hard going into the first hairpin off shoreline and was paralyzed?
I agree that the Linden up and over to Ocean Blvd was cool...

[pchall]

Regazzoni's crash was in 1980 and the circuit was not changed until the first CART race in 1982 if memory serves. I was just out of college and working as a technical writer and document designer out there and was very fortunate to be able to attend the last two GPs. Missed the first CART race since I went back to the midwest to start grad school.


wasnt that when Clay Reggazoni crashed hard going into the first hairpin off shoreline and was paralyzed?
I agree that the Linden up and over to Ocean Blvd was cool...

[shaggy_socal]

First Practice is over...

For comparison, Justin Wilson posted the best time in Practice 1 last year with a 1:08.286 in the DP01/Cosworth.
The Dallara/Honda's aren't even close.(But we knew that anyway.)

Pos. - Driver - Best Lap - Best Speed
1 - Dario Franchitti (10) - 01:11.2 - 99.517
2 - Ryan Briscoe (6) - 01:11.5 - 99.035
3 - Mario Moraes (5) - 01:11.6 - 98.895
4 - Will Power (3) - 01:11.7 - 98.879
5 - Graham Rahal (02) - 01:11.7 - 98.842
6 - Robert Doornbos (06) - 01:11.9 - 98.501
7 - Scott Dixon (9) - 01:12.0 - 98.46
8 - Raphael Matos (2) - 01:12.0 - 98.368
9 - Mike Conway (24) - 01:12.1 - 98.317
10 - EJ Viso (13) - 01:12.1 - 98.213
11 - Tony Kanaan (11) - 01:12.3 - 97.94
12 - Ryan Hunter-Reay (21) - 01:12.4 - 97.884
13 - Justin Wilson (18) - 01:12.5 - 97.698
14 - Marco Andretti (26) - 01:12.7 - 97.459
15 - Hideki Mutoh (27) - 01:12.8 - 97.344
16 - Dan Wheldon (4) - 01:12.8 - 97.311
17 - Alex Tagliani (34) - 01:13.3 - 96.639
18 - Darren Manning (23) - 01:13.4 - 96.469
19 - Vitor Meira (14) - 01:13.5 - 96.372
20 - Danica Patrick (7) - 01:13.8 - 95.937
21 - Ed Carpenter (20) - 01:13.9 - 95.915
22 - Stanton Barrett (98) - 01:14.2 - 95.493

[Wally]

And the crappage continues.....:shakehead

[Sean Malone]

Danika = a season away from oblivion.

[STD]

irl, long overdue.

[cameraman]

Gil de Ferran managed a 1:13.857 in the Acura ARX 02a
Slowest time was the Viper in at 1:24.492

[shaggy_socal]

Practice 2 results.

RHR steps it up a touch. He must have heard about being put on the watch list.

Marko improves his time but not as much as his competitors and storms to the rear of field.

Danica, Ed and Stanton (especially Stanton) continue preparations to be the rolling chicanes on race day.

Special notes.

Out of 22 competitors, the top 15 are covered by less than one second with 3.5257 seconds being the difference between first and last.

At this point last year, out of 20 competitors, the top 13 were within one second of each other with 4.765 seconds being the difference between first and last. Damn you Juho Annala. Without him, first to last would have been 1.865 seconds.

Juho was the slowest DP01 driver with a 1:13.051. All IndyCar drivers, except Stanton Barrett, can now claim they are at least faster than the slowest DP01.

It's a slow day at work, and I'm going through LBGP withdrawl.

Rank - Car - Driver Name - Time - Speed
1 - 3 - Power, Will - 01:10.5486 - 100.424
2 - 9 - Dixon, Scott - 01:10.6678 - 100.255
3 - 2 - Matos, Raphael (R) - 01:10.8247 - 100.033
4 - 4 - Wheldon, Dan - 01:10.9033 - 99.922
5 - 24 - Conway, Mike (R) - 01:10.9981 - 99.789
6 - 10 - Franchitti, Dario - 01:11.0218 - 99.755
7 - 21 - Hunter-Reay, Ryan - 01:11.0263 - 99.749
8 - 11 - Kanaan, Tony - 01:11.1238 - 99.612
9 - 6 - Briscoe, Ryan - 01:11.1416 - 99.587
10 - 02 - Rahal, Graham - 01:11.1768 - 99.538
11 - 13 - Viso, EJ - 01:11.2220 - 99.475
12 - 18 - Wilson, Justin - 01:11.2319 - 99.461
13 - 23 - Manning, Darren - 01:11.2441 - 99.444
14 - 06 - Doornbos, Robert (R) - 01:11.2545 - 99.430
15 - 5 - Moraes, Mario - 01:11.2702 - 99.408
16 - 27 - Mutoh, Hideki - 01:11.5538 - 99.014
17 - 34 - Tagliani, Alex - 01:11.5771 - 98.981
18 - 26 - Andretti, Marco - 01:11.7980 - 98.677
19 - 14 - Meira, Vitor - 01:12.1896 - 98.142
20 - 7 - Patrick, Danica - 01:12.2254 - 98.093
21 - 20 - Carpenter, Ed - 01:12.5171 - 97.698
22 - 98 - Barrett, Stanton (R) - 01:14.0743 - 95.645

[pchall]

duplicated the above P2 results

[cameraman]

And David Brabham puts the Highcroft Acura on the pole with a 1:11.627 and beating Marco Andretti's best time of the day.

[Dvdb]

Wow

[Methanolandbrats]

Honda dominates American Sportscar racing and Open wheel, they are that good :thumbup:

[emjaya]

Power must know Helio got aquitted. :gomer:

Brabham. :thumbup:

[High Sided]

briscoe, helio, power, dario, and 20+ others. at least we got us a real race:thumbup:

[pchall]

Honda's just that good when there's no competition. :rofl:


Honda dominates American Sportscar racing and Open wheel, they are that good :thumbup:

[Insomniac]

Honda's just that good when there's no competition. :rofl:

They are over here. They beat up on Toyota in CC and the IRL.

[NismoZ]

"Power must know?"...you thought Las Vegas was a fluke?:thumbup: (Roger ALWAYS knows!:shakehead) Either he runs 3 for the rest of the year or somebody besides Power gets walking papers...sooner or later.

[NismoZ]

Oh, and Matos...:thumbup: (hope Danica moves over when getting lapped.)

[oddlycalm]

Qualifying futility.

Grid - Driver - Team - Time - Gap
1. Dario Franchitti Ganassi 1m10.2789s
2. EJ Viso HVM 1m10.3158s + 0.0369s
3. Will Power Penske 1m10.3667s + 0.0878s
4. Scott Dixon Ganassi 1m10.5889s + 0.3100s
5. Justin Wilson Dale Coyne 1m10.5897s + 0.3108s
6. Graham Rahal Newman/Haas/Lanigan 1m10.6381s + 0.3592s
7. Helio Castroneves Penske 1m10.6763s + 0.3974s
8. Mike Conway Dreyer & Reinbold 1m10.9066s + 0.6277s
9. Tony Kanaan Andretti Green 1m10.9846s + 0.7057s
10. Danica Patrick Andretti Green 1m11.0542s + 0.7753s
11. Dan Wheldon Panther 1m11.1232s + 0.8443s
12. Raphael Matos Luczo Dragon 1m11.1797s + 0.9008s
13. Hideki Mutoh Andretti Green 1m11.2015s + 0.9226s
14. Darren Manning Dreyer & Reinbold 1m11.3388s + 1.0599s
15. Robert Doornbos Newman/Haas/Lanigan 1m11.3767s + 1.0978s
16. Ryan Briscoe Penske 1m11.4604s + 1.1815s
17. Ryan Hunter-Reay Vision 1m11.5848s + 1.3059s
18. Mario Moraes KV 1m11.6394s + 1.3605s
19. Vitor Meira Foyt 1m11.6590s + 1.3801s
20. Marco Andretti Andretti Green 1m11.7303s + 1.4514s
21. Alex Tagliani Conquest 1m11.8993s + 1.6204s
22. Ed Carpenter Vision 1m12.1573s + 1.8784s
23. Stanton Barrett 3G 1m14.4918s + 4.2129s

[NismoZ]

Or not...:rolleyes:

[Insomniac]

23 cars, not too shabby.

[emjaya]

16. Ryan Briscoe Penske 1m11.4604s + 1.1815s

What happened to Briscoe? Did Roger tell him his job was safe??

[trish]

Maybe they switched cars?

[Gary]

Qualifying futility.

Grid - Driver - Team - Time - Gap

(insert from 2008)
1 - J. Wilson - Newman/ Haas/ Lanigan Racing 1:06.902
[...]
18 - J. Annala - Rocketsports Racing 1:09.555
(link (http://champcar.ws/Results/SessionResults.asp?ID=1801) to 2k8 results)

1. Dario Franchitti Ganassi 1m10.2789s
2. EJ Viso HVM 1m10.3158s + 0.0369s
3. Will Power Penske 1m10.3667s + 0.0878s
4. Scott Dixon Ganassi 1m10.5889s + 0.3100s
5. Justin Wilson Dale Coyne 1m10.5897s + 0.3108s
6. Graham Rahal Newman/Haas/Lanigan 1m10.6381s + 0.3592s
7. Helio Castroneves Penske 1m10.6763s + 0.3974s
8. Mike Conway Dreyer & Reinbold 1m10.9066s + 0.6277s
9. Tony Kanaan Andretti Green 1m10.9846s + 0.7057s
10. Danica Patrick Andretti Green 1m11.0542s + 0.7753s
11. Dan Wheldon Panther 1m11.1232s + 0.8443s
12. Raphael Matos Luczo Dragon 1m11.1797s + 0.9008s
13. Hideki Mutoh Andretti Green 1m11.2015s + 0.9226s
14. Darren Manning Dreyer & Reinbold 1m11.3388s + 1.0599s
15. Robert Doornbos Newman/Haas/Lanigan 1m11.3767s + 1.0978s
16. Ryan Briscoe Penske 1m11.4604s + 1.1815s
17. Ryan Hunter-Reay Vision 1m11.5848s + 1.3059s
18. Mario Moraes KV 1m11.6394s + 1.3605s
19. Vitor Meira Foyt 1m11.6590s + 1.3801s
20. Marco Andretti Andretti Green 1m11.7303s + 1.4514s
21. Alex Tagliani Conquest 1m11.8993s + 1.6204s
22. Ed Carpenter Vision 1m12.1573s + 1.8784s
23. Stanton Barrett 3G 1m14.4918s + 4.2129s


An 18th-place rookie in '08 would win the pole in '09. Futility, indeed...

[TKGAngel]

I'm so confused. Speed shows Danica starting in the last row.



1 12 Power, Will D/H/F 01:09.7107
2 10 Franchitti, Dario D/H/F 01:09.8675
3 2 Matos, Raphael (R) D/H/F 01:10.2043
4 13 Viso, EJ D/H/F 01:10.2232 100.890
5 18 Wilson, Justin D/H/F 01:10.2680
6 9 Dixon, Scott D/H/F 01:10.4038
7 02 Rahal, Graham D/H/F 01:10.0283
8 3 Castroneves, Helio D/H/F 01:10.1139
9 34 Tagliani, Alex D/H/F 01:10.1278
10 6 Briscoe, Ryan D/H/F 01:10.2126
11 11 Kanaan, Tony D/H/F 01:10.3032
12 21 Hunter-Reay, Ryan D/H/F 01:10.4339
13 5 Moraes, Mario D/H/F 01:10.8459
14 4 Wheldon, Dan D/H/F 01:10.5503
15 06 Doornbos, Robert (R) D/H/F 01:10.9577
16 24 Conway, Mike (R) D/H/F 01:10.6059
17 27 Mutoh, Hideki D/H/F 01:11.1177
18 23 Manning, Darren D/H/F 01:11.2411
19 26 Andretti, Marco D/H/F 01:11.2307
20 14 Meira, Vitor D/H/F 01:11.4487
21 98 Barrett, Stanton (R) D/H/F 01:14.4863
22 7 Patrick, Danica D/H/F 01:11.6660
23 20 Carpenter, Ed D/H/F 01:11.9069

[cameraman]

The correct futility:

Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach qualifying lineup

1. (12) Will Power, Dallara-Honda, 1:09.7107 (101.631).
2. (10) Dario Franchitti, Dallara-Honda, 1:09.8675 (101.403).
3. (2) Raphael Matos, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.2043 (100.917).
4. (13) E.J. Viso, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.2232 (100.890).
5. (18) Justin Wilson, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.2680 (100.825).
6. (9) Scott Dixon, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.4038 (100.631).
7. (02) Graham Rahal, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.0283 (101.171).
8. (3) Helio Castroneves, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.1139 (101.047).
9. (34) Alex Tagliani, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.1278 (101.027).
10. (6) Ryan Briscoe, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.2126 (100.905).
11. (11) Tony Kanaan, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.3032 (100.775).
12. (21) Ryan Hunter-Reay, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.4339 (100.588).
13. (5) Mario Moraes, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.8459 (100.003).
14. (4) Dan Wheldon, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.5503 (100.422).
15. (06) Robert Doornbos, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.9577 (99.845).
16. (24) Mike Conway, Dallara-Honda, 1:10.6059 (100.343).
17. (27) Hideki Mutoh, Dallara-Honda, 1:11.1177 (99.621).
18. (23) Darren Manning, Dallara-Honda, 1:11.2411 (99.448).
19. (26) Marco Andretti, Dallara-Honda, 1:11.2307 (99.463).
20. (14) Vitor Meira, Dallara-Honda, 1:11.4487 (99.159).
21. (98) Stanton Barrett, Dallara-Honda, 1:14.4863 (95.115).
22. (7) Danica Patrick, Dallara-Honda, 1:11.6660 (98.859).
23. (20) Ed Carpenter, Dallara-Honda, 1:11.9069 (98.527).

The correcting the numbers just increased the futility:rofl:

[TravelGal]

The correct futility:

Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach qualifying lineup

22. (7) Danica Patrick, Dallara-Honda, 1:11.6660 (98.859).
23. (20) Ed Carpenter, Dallara-Honda, 1:11.9069 (98.527).[/B]

The correcting the numbers just increased the futility:rofl:

They make such a cute couple, dontcha think? :laugh:

[stroker]

so has the .1RL adopted qualifying rules similar to F1? Since when does a guy 3 seconds slower get gridded ahead of people?

[TKGAngel]

so has the .1RL adopted qualifying rules similar to F1? Since when does a guy 3 seconds slower get gridded ahead of people?

If I'm understanding things correctly, the entire grid is divided into two groups for qualies. After the two groups finish there sessions, the fastest twelve then go on to compete. After that session, the fastest six go on to race for the pole and the top six positions on the grid.

Entirely too complicated, in my opinion.

[pchall]

The Princess Permapout wins 4th place, "passing" eighteen cars by staying out longer than the leaders on a fuel stop and catching a fortuitous yellow.

#14 Vitor Meira stuffs it in the tires on the last lap. Ol' AJ's probably going to give him driving instruction with a lead mallet.

Full results when they are available from the IRL site.

[FCYTravis]

Don't forget Ryan Briscoe nerfing Scott Dixon under yellow.

[pchall]

Pos. Driver
Car No C/E/T S Qual Speed Laps XL LL Status Pts

1 Dario Franchitti

Target Chip Ganassi Racing 10 D/H/F 2 101.403 85 2 51 Running 52

2 Will Power

Team Verizon Wireless 12 D/H/F 1 101.631 85 1 16 Running 41

3 Tony Kanaan

Team 7-Eleven 11 D/H/F 11 100.775 85 1 7 Running 35

4 Danica Patrick

Motorola 7 D/H/F 22 98.859 85 0 0 Running 32

5 Dan Wheldon

National Guard Panther Racing 4 D/H/F 14 100.422 85 0 0 Running 30


6 Marco Andretti

Andretti Green 26 D/H/F 19 99.463 85 1 6 Running 28

7 Helio Castroneves

Team Penske 3 D/H/F 8 101.047 85 1 3 Running 26

8 Raphael Matos

Luczo Dragon Racing 2 D/H/F 3 100.917 85 1 2 Running 24


9 Robert Doornbos

Newman/ Haas/ Lanigan Racing 06 D/H/F 15 99.845 85 0 0 Running 22

10 Alex Tagliani

Rexall Edmonton Indy 34 D/H/F 9 101.027 85 0 0 Running 20


11 Ryan Hunter-Reay

Vision Racing 21 D/H/F 12 100.588 85 0 0 Running 19

12 Graham Rahal

McDonald's Racing Team 02 D/H/F 7 101.171 85 0 0 Running 18

13 Ryan Briscoe

Team Penske 6 D/H/F 10 100.905 85 0 0 Running 17


14 Vitor Meira

ABC Supply Co. AJ Foyt Racing 14 D/H/F 20 99.159 84 0 0 Running 16

15 Scott Dixon

Target Chip Ganassi Racing 9 D/H/F 6 100.631 84 0 0 Running 15

16 Darren Manning

Dreyer & Reinbold Racing 23 D/H/F 18 99.448 84 0 0 Running 14

17 Stanton Barrett

CURB/ Agajanian/ Team 3G 98 D/H/F 21 95.115 84 0 0 Running 13

18 Ed Carpenter

Menards/ Vision Racing 20 D/H/F 23 98.527 82 0 0 Running 12

19 Mario Moraes

KV Racing Technology/ Votorantim 5 D/H/F 13 100.003 71 0 0 Contact 12

20 Hideki Mutoh

Formula Dream 27 D/H/F 17 99.621 60 0 0 Running 12

21 Mike Conway

Dad’s Root Beer Dreyer & Reinbold 24 D/H/F 16 100.343 51 0 0 Contact 12

22 Justin Wilson

Z-Line Designs 18 D/H/F 5 100.825 24 0 0 Contact 12

23 E.J. Viso

PDVSA HVM Racing 13 D/H/F 4 100.890 16 0 0 Contact 12

[TKGAngel]

The Princess Permapout wins 4th place, "passing" eighteen cars by staying out longer than the leaders on a fuel stop and catching a fortuitous yellow.


And Princess Permapout complained in her post-race interview about how the blend line location wasn't fair because it allowed Kanaan to pass her.

[pchall]

And Princess Permapout complained in her post-race interview about how the blend line location wasn't fair because it allowed Kanaan to pass her.

I heard that on WIBC. She complimented her crew for gaining 18 places for her, but was clearly disappointed that they couldn't manage to get her the next 3.

[NismoZ]

Seriously, did she pass ANYbody on the track? That's a fantastic strategy! Safe, too!:gomer:

[pchall]

Seriously, did she pass ANYbody on the track? That's a fantastic strategy! Safe, too!:gomer:

If she did, it's probably for the first time in her non oval IRL career.

[Tim]

Doesn't matter what series it's the same old crappy track.

[Methanolandbrats]

WGAF this is turning into a :gomer: board. You people actually read about, care about and watch that ****? :yuck: Go outside and mow your ****ing lawn, it would be more exciting.

[NismoZ]

Rained...ALL day, but I know what you mean. Helio said he actually DID pass a guy! Tim's got it, "Long Beach, The Track Too Tough To Pass...on. (PS...IRL beats F-1 again on OC, 43-22.:p)

[NismoZ]

Oh, and for those of you who care, PT's answer to a question about whether or not he'd have to take the rookie/refresher test for Indy quickly replied, "No, past champions do not have to take the test." Liked that.:D

[opinionated ow]

Doesn't matter what series it's the same old crappy track.

abso-bloody-lutely correct

[dando]

OK so I watched a few laps of this parade...basically follow the leader with an intermittent 'rookie' stuffing his ride into the tire wall. How did Danicle weasel her way up to 2nd mid-race?

-Kevin

[TKGAngel]

WGAF this is turning into a :gomer: board. You people actually read about, care about and watch that ****? :yuck: Go outside and mow your ****ing lawn, it would be more exciting.

For me, it's the total trainwreck factor. I can't look away knowing that something so beautiful has turned into such a hot mess.

[Sean Malone]

I watched. I couldn't help but think about the article someone posted here the other day about how the Long Beach race transcends whatever series races there. In the case of the IRL it certainly is true.

It was slightly, just slightly more interesting than St Pete. As someone above mentioned, it's a parade with backmarkers hitting tire walls. Wee.

I saw a bit more on car sponsor signage, I assume most are one offs because of the Long Beach 'event'. Overhead shots of the stands looked somewhat thin.

Since when did the IRL go with 'push 2 pass'? So they have paddle shifters, p2p, option tires...if they only had a decent looking car with 2 or 3 turbo engine manufactures, we'd right back where we started from.

It's actually a decent field of drivers, I just wish the cars were designed to be more suited toward driver skill than to Danika skill.

Andretti the Lesser is still the biggest ass on the planet.

[Insomniac]

Seriously, did she pass ANYbody on the track? That's a fantastic strategy! Safe, too!:gomer:

Jenson Button shows you just need to hang in there. You might get handed a car that is superior to everyone else's. :D

[JLMannin]

OK so I watched a few laps of this parade...basically follow the leader with an intermittent 'rookie' stuffing his into the tire wall. How did Danicle weasel her way up to 2nd mid-race?

-Kevin

Yea, I hear you on that one. I joined the telecast about one hour in. I watched for maybe five minutes, then I switched to a tin-foil hat marathon on discovery - much more entartaining. The "Mayan phophecies" a great source of pure entertainment and hilarity in our house.

So I see from the discussion that Danica has racked up another crown jewel in her fourth-place trifecta. Now all that is left is fouth place in the final season standings.

[Napoleon]

. . . a tin-foil hat marathon on discovery . . . .

Yeah, what is it with running shows like that on Discovery (or the History Channel).

As to the IRL not only do I not get the channel they are on I have never even heard of it.

[Methanolandbrats]

Jenson Button shows you just need to hang in there. You might get handed a car that is superior to everyone else's. :D:laugh:

[NismoZ]

Every drivers dream.

[JLMannin]

Yeah, what is it with running shows like that on Discovery (or the History Channel).

As to the IRL not only do I not get the channel they are on I have never even heard of it.

Versus used to be OLN (Outdoor Life Network), and I forgot what is was before OLN :)

[oddlycalm]

Versus used to be OLN (Outdoor Life Network), and I forgot what is was before OLN :)

I felt kinda sorry for the dozens of people that tuned in expecting to get "Tackle Box Tales" and got the EARL instead. :D

If you've never seen it "Tackle Box Tales" is where a guy takes mangy old lures out of his tackle box, talks about their history and how many <insert lie here> fish it caught then hangs it on the wall and takes out another one and talks about it...:gomer: In other words, more interesting than an EARL race.

oc

[Andrew Longman]

I felt kinda sorry for the dozens of people that tuned in expecting to get "Tackle Box Tales" and got the EARL instead. :D

If you've never seen it "Tackle Box Tales" is where a guy takes mangy old lures out of his tackle box, talks about their history and how many <insert lie here> fish it caught then hangs it on the wall and takes out another one and talks about it...:gomer: In other words, more interesting than an EARL race.

oc

Sound competitive with Trains and Locomotives on RFD (which I will confess to watching a bit of)

[Gary]

Fastest race lap comparison - 2008/2009

DP01 race car - A. Pizzonia 1:08.252
Crapwagon - R. Briscoe 1:11.258

[Methanolandbrats]

Fastest race lap comparison - 2008/2009

DP01 race car - A. Pizzonia 1:08.252
Crapwagon - R. Briscoe 1:11.258 Musta looked like UPS trucks coming off the corners, sorry I did'nt fire up the TIVO.

[Michaelhatesfans]

I felt kinda sorry for the dozens of people that tuned in expecting to get "Tackle Box Tales" and got the EARL instead. :D

If you've never seen it "Tackle Box Tales" is where a guy takes mangy old lures out of his tackle box, talks about their history and how many <insert lie here> fish it caught then hangs it on the wall and takes out another one and talks about it...:gomer: In other words, more interesting than an EARL race.

oc

Really?:laugh:

Reminds me of the old SCTV "Fishin' Musician" skit, where John Candy would talk about Hendrix for a bit, then go out on the lake and spend the rest of the day getting his lines caught in the prop, losing lures, and wondering where all the fish went.

[oddlycalm]

Really?:laugh:

Really. Reminded me of some kind of skit as well. The show is call "The Hunt For Big Fish." I was hoping giant squid of course, but no joy on that. :(

So after he pulls out the lures he he occasionally takes a favorite to a little black plastic tub of water and play with them. :rofl: Seriously. At the end of the show he ran some footage of some jacktards standing proud with enormous muskies in their arms and it was a rap. :gomer: Coming attractions are "Mayhem in Muskieville" and "Metro Muskies." Be sure to enjoy.

Here's that spawn chart you've been looking for....
spawn report (http://www.versuscountry.com/bassspawnmap.aspx)

[opinionated ow]

This is all the IRL reminds me of:
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs010.snc1/2890_94764571400_502726400_2213865_6842855_n.jpg







Varying levels of poo quality.

[stroker]

I think I've seen all seven out of my 16 month old.

That's nauseating on some level.

[Methanolandbrats]

Type 4 is the good one, right? :gomer:

[emjaya]

Really. Reminded me of some kind of skit as well. The show is call "The Hunt For Big Fish." I was hoping giant squid of course, but no joy on that. :(

So after he pulls out the lures he he occasionally takes a favorite to a little black plastic tub of water and play with them. :rofl: Seriously. At the end of the show he ran some footage of some jacktards standing proud with enormous muskies in their arms and it was a rap. :gomer: Coming attractions are "Mayhem in Muskieville" and "Metro Muskies." Be sure to enjoy.

Here's that spawn chart you've been looking for....
spawn report (http://www.versuscountry.com/bassspawnmap.aspx)

And people pay to watch this?

[chop456]

Sometimes I like to watch the Big Joe Polka Show on RFD. :D