American Chopper

[Wheel-Nut]

I ran across A C last night while channel surfing. I saw a promotional ad for the new season and it showed Jr. out on his own.

Did Sr. fire Jr. or is this some sort of ratings ploy?

[sadams]

The war of words escalated to the point neither could stand the other.
(I think it might be a ploy by Thom Beers to spin off yet another show)

[stroker]

Why can't somebody interesting like Kenny Roberts get a reality show?

[Methanolandbrats]

First John and Kate, now Jr and Sr.....:cry::cry:

[Wheel-Nut]

I might have to watch the new episode.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIpjdDBcDxA&feature=related

EDIT: I call BS, when Mikey is talking to Sr. the microwave and the door knob wall protector look like nothing happened.

[oddlycalm]

I think it might be a ploy by Thom Beers to spin off yet another show
That's a real safe bet. :D Beer's shows are as staged as professional wrestling. Without the Jr. vs Sr. shout downs what do you have?

oc

[cameraman]

Okay, really, that you folks even know the names of those guys...

Turn off the damn TV and go rebuild a car or something.

[Wheel-Nut]

Okay, really, that you folks even know the names of those guys...

Turn off the damn TV and go rebuild a car or something.

I have been toying with the idea of buying a Ford Falcon and trying to rebuild it.

[opinionated ow]

I have been toying with the idea of buying a Ford Falcon and trying to rebuild it.

Why rebuild when you can just import? Inline 6 with or without turbo or V8...choice is yours:
http://carsguide.news.com.au/images/uploads/Ford_FG_Falcon_XT.jpg
http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2008/05/15/image43002_L_m.jpg
http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2008/05/medium_2491620507_06fb3944f8_o.jpg

If Ford had been smart, this could have been the basis for the Mustang, the Crown Victoria, the Lincoln Town Car and a heap of other models...

[extramundane]

Why rebuild when you can just import?

Can you import one of these? :gomer:
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/922/1965fordfaconsprintgord.jpg

[Don Quixote]

Can you import one of these? :gomer:
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/922/1965fordfaconsprintgord.jpg
Nice. Stick a bossed out 289 under the hood, and let her rip!

[oddlycalm]

They did go like stink with a good 289 in them (as did the Maverick with a 302). Here in the land-where-cars-don't-rust there there is a neighbor with a real straight baby blue Falcon (62 I think) that I wouldn't mine having...:thumbup:

My friend's parents had a base Falcon wagon with the base engine and an automatic. On anything more than a moderate grade everyone except the driver had to jump out for the car to make it to the top. :gomer:

oc

http://www.osomin.com/60fordwagon.jpg

[indyfan31]

My friend's parents had a base Falcon wagon with the base engine and an automatic. On anything more than a moderate grade everyone except the driver had to jump out for the car to make it to the top. :gomer:

oc



170 CID straight 6 or something silly like that?

[datachicane]

Hey, I had one of those!
'63 wagon, 170ci w/2-sp auto, radio delete and rubber-mat floor, good for maybe 60mph tops. It was also dead reliable and nearly indestructable. Once I went to Baja for a month and left it parked in a fairly sketchy neighborhood rather than pay for long-term parking, since it was pretty much theft-proof as well.

The 7-main 200ci variant is a much better engine, and when I swapped the 170 for a 200 and C4 auto it really woke the thing up. Here's the (slightly modified) 200 in my Mustang...


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_2Yptu8g36aI/SNnHI0Z6pFI/AAAAAAAAAP0/Img24sqpryM/s800/ford200r.jpg (http://picasaweb.google.com/wfteoslh/Mustang?feat=directlink)

I had well over 200k on it went I rebuilt it the first time, and .020 over, cam bearings, and a crank polish did it. It might have gone another 100k.

[Wheel-Nut]

I'm thinking something like this.

http://www.freewebs.com/houstonfalcons/apps/photos/photo?photoid=25269031

[datachicane]

I've got an extra set of those same hubcaps hanging in my garage, along with a never-installed set of Clifford headers and a matching vintage Edelbrock finned aluminum valve cover and 3x1v intake setup (the intake is similar to the Offy piece on my engine in the pic above)...

[emjaya]

Hey, I had one of those!
'63 wagon, 170ci w/2-sp auto, radio delete and rubber-mat floor, good for maybe 60mph tops. It was also dead reliable and nearly indestructable. Once I went to Baja for a month and left it parked in a fairly sketchy neighborhood rather than pay for long-term parking, since it was pretty much theft-proof as well.

The 7-main 200ci variant is a much better engine, and when I swapped the 170 for a 200 and C4 auto it really woke the thing up. Here's the (slightly modified) 200 in my Mustang...


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_2Yptu8g36aI/SNnHI0Z6pFI/AAAAAAAAAP0/Img24sqpryM/s800/ford200r.jpg (http://picasaweb.google.com/wfteoslh/Mustang?feat=directlink)

I had well over 200k on it went I rebuilt it the first time, and .020 over, cam bearings, and a crank polish did it. It might have gone another 100k.

Did you cut the log off? I had a head from an old Appendix J car that had had the log cut off and holes for studs to fit a decent manifold drilled in. This in an Oz '65 Falcon with a 170 and a Fordamatic.

[datachicane]

Nope, although Ak Miller did a couple of nice 170s where he milled the end of the head flat and bolted either triple sidedraft webers or a Hillborn fuelie setup. For those who don't follow what's going on, all US and most Oz small Ford sixes (144/170/200/250ci) have an intake manifold integral with the head.

The Offy/Edelbrock triple carb setup comes in two flavors, for pre- and post- 1970 heads. Both involve opening up a hole on top of the ends of the intake log, which seals to the underside of the triple intake with O-rings. The early log is round, so the manifold has long studs which protrude beneath the log and through a heavy steel bar, which clamps the whole thing together. The late head as a flat log, so the top is drilled and tapped and the manifold bolts directly to the top.

This pic is an early prototype, no lettering and a funky water jacket, but it mounts the same way...

http://image.mustangmonthly.com/f/9180707/173_0312_six_8a_z.jpg

Oz got some very nice heads on the 250/2v which are interchangeable with the US stuff and have a removable intake for a single 2v (oddly enough). There are a few Oz aftermarket intakes for those with sidedraft webers and the like, but they're all crazy expensive, US market exhaust doesn't fit, and I understand the compression chambers are less than optimal. If I was going to go to that much effort and $$, I'd just drop a crossflow in and be done with it. There's a guy here in the States that modifies Oz crossflow heads for US blocks (the head is an inch wider, so a water jacket filler plate is in order), which would make a nice choice.

I'm more into vintage parts personally, and the Offy setup is no slouch with a hot Clifford cam and equal-length headers...

[oddlycalm]

I'm thinking something like this.

http://www.freewebs.com/houstonfalcons/apps/photos/photo?photoid=25269031

Fun stuff :thumbup: Datachicane has the right recipe, the 200cid six and a C4 would make a great daily driver.

oc