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Sean Malone
07-06-09, 04:13 PM
Q: A lot of the owners have said they want to get a new car before 2011 and they think they can't afford not to get a new car, did you get to that today and is there any indication you can go forward before then?

BRIAN BARNHART: We are not ruling out 2011 but one of the biggest challenges we face, we are down to two designs seem to be the direction we are leaning towards, and I say they are significantly different, and also they are significantly different from each other and they are also significantly different from what we currently have.

And because of that, I think the challenge with making it by 2011 is a little bit of the fear of the unknown, but also doing your due diligence with it, because it is so radically different from what has been in open-wheel racing over the evolution for the last 30 years; you have to build a prototype, you have to be able to run them. You're going to have to learn how to race those cars, and equally, if not more important, we are going to have to learn how to crash those cars.

And it's hard for me to say without getting into too much detail about it, but just the database that's been created from a safety aspect over the evolution of the current type of car, a significant portion of that doesn't apply, because of the potential new cars are so radically different.

You know, with the importance in priority on safety, I'm just not sure time will allow for the prototype to be built, tested, and then all of the work done for it to be in place. I mean, we are 17 or 18 months from January of 2011, so I'm not sure that's a comfortable time frame to be able to do what we feel needs to be done with it.

If it can, we are not ruling out 2011. Our focus is on 2012 and if we can do it quicker, then we will get it in place for 2011. And if not, it will be 2012.

:gomer:

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=335295&FS=

pchall
07-06-09, 04:29 PM
:gomer:"

Expect them to try and roll out something really stupid if they hang around long enough to actually build and test a handful of them together on track. Something way out of the contemporary single-seater mainstream would be a hoot!

http://www.legendsofnascar.com/Sumar55Restored.jpg
Sumar streamliner

http://www.brooklands.org.uk/Goodwood99/G99059.jpg
Vanwall VW6

FTG
07-06-09, 05:29 PM
http://www.legendsofnascar.com/Sumar55Restored.jpg
Sumar streamliner



For the man honest enough to admit a sports car is nothing but a penis extender.

devilmaster
07-06-09, 05:38 PM
my opinion on the new car:

Simply put, stop trying to be the OW version of nascar with yer side by side racin...

Make the new car challenge F1 in terms of performance. The 4 lap Indy average should be right near an F1's top speed. Sell that these cars are the fastest in the world. Challenge for the world stage.

Thats where these cars were in 93-94, before idiot boy got his ear whispered in....

Methanolandbrats
07-06-09, 06:22 PM
I mean.... I'm not sure..... If not.....leaning towards.....


Sounds solid. I can't sleep waiting for the Open Wheel Car of Tomorrow.

Don Quixote
07-06-09, 06:52 PM
For the man honest enough to admit a sports car is nothing but a penis extender. Anybody remember the dickmobile, pictured inside a Steppenwolf album cover?

pchall
07-06-09, 07:21 PM
For the man honest enough to admit a sports car is nothing but a penis extender.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Jo7lJoQhtjw/Sc0tjw-kSRI/AAAAAAAAEvk/JFn-2Zg9Qgo/s400/penis+car+family+guy+WQ.jpg

The Sumar Spl. is an Offy powered Indycar from 1955.

Vanwall VW6 is a 2.5L F1 car from the 1957 season.

Both are somewhat dubious experiments in streamlined single-seaters.

SteveH
07-06-09, 07:36 PM
Anybody remember the dickmobile, pictured inside a Steppenwolf album cover?

Yes, I do. It was For Ladies Only

Here's the OC version of that car..... :D

http://berryweb.com/weinermobile.jpg

click here (http://charliegower.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/27/peniscar.jpg) to see the real thing

BTW - it looks to be front engined :laugh:

stroker
07-06-09, 07:40 PM
:gomer:

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=335295&FS=

This has all the makings of a complete and utter disaster...

jcollins28
07-06-09, 07:57 PM
It has already been built and tested....
http://www.stealthms.com/images/lewissilvercrowncar2.jpg

Gnam
07-06-09, 08:14 PM
click here (http://charliegower.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/27/peniscar.jpg) to see the real thing

BTW - it looks to be front engined :laugh:

Is it parked next to Michael Jackson's star?

gjc2
07-06-09, 08:24 PM
This is cool looking car.

http://danac.deviantart.com/art/Evo-New-Front-Engine-Indy-Car-27235593

pchall
07-06-09, 09:22 PM
This is cool looking car.

http://danac.deviantart.com/art/Evo-New-Front-Engine-Indy-Car-27235593

Looks very much like the photoshopped Penske Cars roadsters that Peter Burke had in his photo gallery around 2000--2001.

SurfaceUnits
07-06-09, 09:31 PM
aren't most of the people from front engined roadster days about dead

NismoZ
07-06-09, 09:38 PM
I sure FEEL that way sometimes.:(

Methanolandbrats
07-06-09, 10:40 PM
This has all the makings of a complete and utter disaster...

Looks like Tony has bad advisors just like Hitler had.

stroker
07-07-09, 09:25 AM
Looks like Tony has bad advisors just like Hitler had.

Actually, if Hitler had STFU and let them run the war we'd have been in deep doodoo...

Don Quixote
07-07-09, 09:44 AM
Yes, I do. It was For Ladies Only
click here (http://charliegower.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/07/27/peniscar.jpg) to see the real thing

BTW - it looks to be front engined :laugh: :thumbup:

Methanolandbrats
07-07-09, 12:19 PM
Actually, if Hitler had STFU and let them run the war we'd have been in deep doodoo... Not according to Bernie. :D

oddlycalm
07-07-09, 04:25 PM
More Brainfart fantasy flatulence. The money is gone and along with it any chance for changing anything more complicated than the locks on the doors. They ran their series into the wall and nobody is coming to the rescue. If $600 million couldn't make it a success in a strong economy what chances do they really have facing the worst economy in 80yrs with a boring spec series...?

When the day comes and the drivers don't have rides and the crew members don't have jobs TG will have discover his true legacy. :irked:

oc

stroker
07-07-09, 07:49 PM
More Brainfart fantasy flatulence. The money is gone and along with it any chance for changing anything more complicated than the locks on the doors. They ran their series into the wall and nobody is coming to the rescue. If $600 million couldn't make it a success in a strong economy what chances do they really have facing the worst economy in 80yrs with a boring spec series...?

When the day comes and the drivers don't have rides and the crew members don't have jobs TG will have discover his true legacy. :irked:

oc

Hey dat gives me an idea... What say a Pitchfork and Torch concession in Indy?