40 year ago today

[Napoleon]

Apollo 11 leaves for the moon. . .

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/07/14/science/14mission-600.jpg

. . . and I was glued to the TV like so many others, with my Major Matt Mason nearby. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Matt_Mason)

http://wallofpaul.com/files/Major%20Matt%20(usable).jpg

On July 20th when they were to walk on the Moon my mom refused to let me stay up past my bedtime to watch. I never forgave her for that one.

This is an interesting remembrance (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/science/space/14mission.html?hpw=&pagewanted=print) and summary of the Apollo program from one of the New York Times primary science writers, John Noble Wilford, who I had no idea was 75 years old and was, apparently, their primary reporter on the Moon launch.

Among other things in the story is something that never has occurred to me and I would love to see what others think. There is a discussion on what was the most important mission and amazingly Michael Collins offers his opinion that it was Apollo 8 (for which he was CapCom), and not Apollo 11 (for which he was the CSM pilot).

JFK's Moon speech.

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http://www.ssplprints.com/lowres/43/main/9/88099.jpg

[Methanolandbrats]

Fake :gomer:

[Napoleon]

Fake :gomer:

Then you are in the 6% of Americans who believe that (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/science/space/14hoax.html?ref=science)

PS to my original post, NPR did a story today on video footage from the landing. (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106637066) Amazingly NASA taped over some of it.

[chop456]

I thought you were going to reminisce about your college graduation.

[dando]

I had one of those dolls...never knew the name of it, tho. I wasn't quite 3 yet, so I don't remember Apollo 11, but I do remember watching one couple of years later. No doubt I watched it, tho. The girls and I watched the shuttle together yesterday...gotta start 'em young. :cool:

-Kevin

[Napoleon]

I thought you were going to reminisce about your college graduation.

Funny guy, that was "only" 26 years ago, though if it was 40 years ago I could have gone and saw Hendrix at Woodstock and got drafted into the military.

[dando]

$5.4B...it would cost roughly 26x that price to achieve this today. :eek:

-Kevin

[TrueBrit]

I remember being woken up by my dad (it was late in the evening in England when they walked on the moon) to watch it on our tiny little black and white telly...dad took photos of the tv screen..still have the slides somewhere...an amazing time to be a kid...

[Napoleon]

This is a neat "real time" reliving of the mission.

http://wechoosethemoon.org/

[gjc2]

I was glued to the TV like so many...........mom refused to let me stay up past my bedtime to watch. I never forgave her for that one.

I followed every minuet of the mission. Astronauts have always been my heroes.

I had just graduated high school

[datachicane]

I was five and was obsessed with the space program. I had my Major Matt Mason (and his curiously expendable redshirted associate), and had been trying unsuccessfully to convince my parents that an aspiring astronaut like myself should subsist solely on a diet of Tang and Pillsbury Space Food Sticks. I've still got the old Apollo crew poster they sold by the armload at the grocery stores hanging in my geek room.

I was digging through some old boxes the other day and found a stash of the 50-some cassette tapes that an uncle had recorded of all the Apollo 11 television broadcasts, neatly organized in a carrier. I remember seeing his Heathkit TV opened up while he installed the output jack for his recording setup. 1969-vintage Übergeek that he was, he eschewed reel-to-reel and 4-track and went for cassettes.

[Napoleon]

. . .and his curiously expendable redshirted associate.

Sgt Storm (PS, my brother says he still has is Sgt Storm - I sold Major Matt to these people http://bigfunbigfun.com about 10 years ago and amazingly the owner had just a month or so earlier ever heard of Major Matt a month or two earlier when a woman had come in looking for one as a surprise gift for her husband who loved it as a kid)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/110546201_d157ce0767.jpg?v=0

[datachicane]

Sgt Storm.



Yep. At five I'd certainly conflated him with these guys:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_6B8tPuW7TwQ/R1TvQyzYRcI/AAAAAAAADik/y9AF4AcR2xA/s1600-R/redshirt.jpghttp://www.blogcdn.com/www.tvsquad.com/media/2006/02/redshirt.jpg

[ChampcarShark]

Restoration Videos in HD.

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/hd/apollo11.html

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[Al Czervik]

I can't help it, gotta brag on the alma mater https://engineering.purdue.edu/Engr/AboutUs/History/Astronauts

I can't remember Apollo 11, being 2 1/2 at the time, but I do remember trying to stay up to watch the launch of 17.

/space geek

[sadams]

I was 15 and had watched every NASA launch since Alan Shepard.
Nice feed here
http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/apollo11_radio/

[oddlycalm]

Only managed to see one go off in person in all these years and of course it was Apollo 13. :gomer: We were there on spring break and hit the pause button on the debauchery for a couple days. Took the bus tour of the Cape the day before. The things that impressed me at the time about the Cape was that the assembly building was so big that it occasionally rained inside it and the fact that the were sending up smaller rockets on a regular basis.

Only thing I've seen beat that launch for shear enormity of scale and violence was when Mt. St. Helens spewed forth. I decided right there at the launch that I sure enough did not have the right stuff and nothing that happened later during that mission changed me mind. :eek:

oc

[nissan gtp]

Only managed to see one go off in person in all these years and of course it was Apollo 13. :gomer:

it's all your fault :D

[datachicane]

The assembly building definitely makes an impression. The last time I was there was a few days before the launch of STS-1, which I sadly missed.

<OT>
St. Helens made a bit of an impression, too. I was in one of the last cars across the I-5 bridge over the Toutle before the WSP closed it. Pretty scary watching the trees and mud smash the bridge around like spaghetti while you're on it. We didn't figure out that it was the mountain for nearly an hour- just assumed that it was a crazy thunderstorm, given all the lightning going off in the plume. Thankfully all of that crap blew East... </OT>

[Napoleon]

The things that impressed me at the time about the Cape was that the assembly building was so big that it occasionally rained inside it . . . .

This place (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Airdock) in Akron, Ohio has the same problem. I managed to view it one of the 2 times it has ever been open to the public.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Goodyear_Airdock_exterior.jpg/800px-Goodyear_Airdock_exterior.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/39/Goodyear_Airdock_interior.jpg/425px-Goodyear_Airdock_interior.jpg

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/images/h89000/h89488.jpg

[emjaya]

Some photo's from the mission.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/07/remembering_apollo_11.html

[Napoleon]

Some photo's from the mission.

Great photos. For anyone who does not know, the Boston Globe's website has some of the best photos on the web.

By the way, in the very last picture what type of car is that in front of the ticker tape parade?

[emjaya]

Great photos. For anyone who does not know, the Boston Globe's website has some of the best photos on the web.

By the way, in the very last picture what type of car is that in front of the ticker tape parade?

I thought it was a early 50's Lincoln.

[STD]

1956 Imperial

http://lotpro.com/blogphotos/Presidential%20Rides/tn_1956%20Chrysler%20Imperial%20Detroit%20Car1.jpg

[oddlycalm]

This place (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Airdock) in Akron, Ohio has the same problem. I managed to view it one of the 2 times it has ever been open to the public
Way cool. :thumbup: I'd like to see that. Is it a timber structure?

You'd no doubt enjoy seeing Boeing's Everett plant. Not quite as tall as NASA's. Probably a similar height to the blimp hanger, but the building footprint is 282 acres or 12,283,920 sq ft. Big enough to fit 67 747's at the same time.

oc

http://syaifulmuazir.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/300px-boeing_everett_plant.jpg

[Elmo T]

LRO photos of Apollo sites:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html

[Napoleon]

OC, the frame of the structure is steel, I believe. I was in there at night to hear a speech by then candidate Bill Clinton (the guy who ran/owned the company that owned it at the time was a big time supporter of his) so it was a little tough to see everything inside.

[dando]

LRO photos of Apollo sites:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html

Meh. Obvious fakes. :gomer:

-Kevin

[oddlycalm]

I'm surprised that one of the aerospace scrap outfits in LA hasn't figured out a way to go salvage what was left on the moon. :laugh:

If you've got a day to kill a visit to a couple of them is a hoot you can get a smoking deal on a rocket motor for your very own personal self...:gomer: You gotta admit it'd look great mounted in a '66 Impala. :D
Norton Sales (http://eecue.com/log_archive/eecue-log-665-Norton_Sales_HDR_Photo_Essay.html)

oc

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/444017899_b1180b30df.jpg

[RusH]

At the risk of a hijack......it`s great that we were alive to see the greatest era of space exploration that all current living souls will ever see. :saywhat:



too bad

[Gnam]

I liked Battlestar Galactica too, but to call it the "greatest era of space exploration" is to ignore the many contributions of the starship Enterprise to our understanding of the universe.



:p

[Andrew Longman]

This is an interesting remembrance (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/science/space/14mission.html?hpw=&pagewanted=print) and summary of the Apollo program from one of the New York Times primary science writers, John Noble Wilford, who I had no idea was 75 years old and was, apparently, their primary reporter on the Moon launch.

Among other things in the story is something that never has occurred to me and I would love to see what others think. There is a discussion on what was the most important mission and amazingly Michael Collins offers his opinion that it was Apollo 8 (for which he was CapCom), and not Apollo 11 (for which he was the CSM pilot).

Great piece. And the comments about the Apollo 8 mission, at the end of 1968 are eloquent and spot on. What an awful year it was and Earthrise put it all in perspective. I was 8 years old, celebrating Xmas with the flu. My Dad had bought us our first color TV, a 13" GE POS, but seeing Earth at all yet in color was magnificent and stirring. Even this 8 year old knew how much of a contrast that was to the awful year it had been

Here is something that was in my morning paper http://blog.nj.com/njv_mark_diionno/2009/07/us_needs_a_return_to_apolloage.html#more

I particularly like this


That night, millions of people around the world looked skyward and saw the same floating, silvery orb that frightened or perplexed our ancestors from the beginning of time. Except now, one of us was up there. The first question of the infinite galaxy was answered. And there was no boundary to what other answers we could find.

We actually thought like this in 1969.

And


To see how far the barometer of American cultural priorities has fallen consider this: There is much more curiosity and fascination over the death of a guy whose signature dance step was the "Moonwalk" than over the dwindling handful of men who actually walked on the moon.

[TravelGal]

It's nearly time now. Nearly July 20, Colombian Independence Day. What a day it was in 1969. Celebrations everywhere for the peace that was returning to the country (eventually to be lost and hopefully now found again). I was there then. Spending the summer with a family whose daughter had spent her senior year in high school with me. In the dark of the evening, we rode through the city streets past thousands of people, sometimes 10-deep, standing on the sidewalks for blocks watching televisions that the government had put up on the outsides of buidlings. Necks crained, the stood, watching fuzzy images. Amazed. Back at my friend's home the family watched their own TV. Quite the luxury at that time and place. I slipped away to the small second floor balcony in Bogota and looked up at the moon, trying to imagine that one of us was there. Magic.

[Napoleon]

Per The Onion, Holy S--- Man Walks on F------ Moon (http://zorak.best.vwh.net/toc/****ingmoon.html)

[dando]

Apollo fest today on History. :thumbup: Get your space geek on. :cool: Good time to be working from home. :D

-Kevin

[Gnam]

Moon over Hanoi Hilton (http://www.herald-mail.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=227101&format=html)


by James H. Warner
Marine Corps F-4B pilot & POW for 5-1/2 years

However, I did not hear the news of the moon landing for several more years. I was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam and on July 20, 1969, I was in a small box that sat out in the sun in the third month of a prolonged interrogation about what the Communists were convinced was an escape attempt. Although we did not hear any news about the actual moon landing, the Apollo program did affect us in an interesting way because we thought the landing had happened several months earlier.

:thumbup:

[Gnam]

Per The Onion, Holy S--- Man Walks on F------ Moon (http://zorak.best.vwh.net/toc/****ingmoon.html)
^ old & busted
V new hotness

http://www.members.shaw.ca/rlongpre01/moon.html

[Napoleon]

By the way, I had totally forgotten about this until I saw someone mention this today, but does anyone recall that tv show Bob Costas use to have and his interview of Marilu Henner, where she brags about being able to recall what happened to her on any particular date. So Costas throws out 7/20/1969. Costas' reply to what she said was priceless.

[dando]

Where's the truth? So I've seen several figures thrown out this week about the cost of the first moon landing and the Apollo program. A couple of examples:


Even the Moon landings and the New Deal didn’t come close to $23 trillion: the Moon shot in 1969 cost an estimated $237 billion in current dollars, and the entire Depression-era Roosevelt relief program came in at $500 billion, according to Jim Bianco of Bianco Research.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0709/25164.html


By 1965, the United States was spending about 5 percent of the federal budget to achieve that goal. In today's dollars, the Apollo program cost $141.5 billion, NASA says.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/science/stories/2009/07/19/sci_moon_landing.ART_ART_07-19-09_G1_GPEGBIM.html

The math I did was based on a report on the cost in '60s $$$ vs. 2008 $$$ (based on comparable GDP). Truth in reporting? :irked: :saywhat:

-Kevin

[pineapple]

The moon landing was one of the most amazing and memorable events in my life. The article mentions other events of the summer of 69:


Remembering the Summer of ‘69

... In fact, according to the AP, most Americans did not live through that summer, since the median age of Americans is 36.8.

Before the flowers even started blooming, America said goodbye to Lyndon B. Johnson and hello to Richard Nixon, who was sworn in as the 37th president of the United States that January. Forty years later we said farewell to George W. Bush and hello to Barack Obama, the nation’s first black president. Both Obama and Nixon sailed into office as leaders of “change.”

Dr. David Reuben publishes Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex (But Were Afraid to Ask) and it became one of the decades best-selling books. According to Wikipedia, it “became part of the Sexual Revolution of modern America.” In 1972, Woody Allen made a movie adaptation of the book.

Then there was the Chappaquiddick incident. On July 18, Ted Kennedy drove a car off a bridge in Martha’s Vineyard and a young female passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne, died. While Kennedy has gone on to become a well-respected leader in the Senate, some say his presidential aspirations ended that day. Read Ken Rudin of NPR’s Political Junkie post on this incident.

In August of that summer, hundreds of thousands descended upon Woodstock for a muddy three-day music festival that highlighted 32 of the best-known acts of the day, including Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, and The Who. It also cemented the image of a whole hippie culture.

Chicago Cubs fans will always remember that summer as the season their team went so far and then fell so fast. In what is looked at as one of the biggest collapses in the history of baseball, the Cubs managed to lose a 9 ½ game lead in just a month. The Mets won the World Series that year. In the 40 years that have passed since then, the Cubs have yet to make it to the World Series.

The Beatles also made their last public appearance before splitting up. John Lennon and his wife Yoko Ono staged two “bed-ins” to protest the Vietnam War. About a week ago, Sir Paul McCartney recreated the famous 1969 rooftop moment at the Ed Sullivan Theater on the David Letterman show.

America’s favorite TV family also arrived that summer. The Brady Bunch debuted on Sept. 26 and gave families laughs for years to come. Now, we only see cast members on reality shows like My Fair Brady or Celebrity Fit Club. And who can forget the premier of Sesame Street, which changed the way many people thought about the educational potential of TV for kids. I watched this show growing up and my 4-year-old daughter watches it now--talk about longevity!

In addition to all of those major events, there was also the horrific Manson murders, the invention of the ATM, disclosure of the My Lai massacre, hailing of General Motors as the No. 1 corporation in the world, secret Vietnam peace talks, mass bra-burning protests in NYC, and Hurricane Camille. Michael Jackson was also a rising star at the age of 10 that summer.

...

Full article: Summer of 69

[G.]

best video about the moon ever!

A generation came of age with this shot.

:thumbup:

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[Andrew Longman]

Did anyone else catch "Live from '69: Moon Landing" on the History Channel?

It was simply pieces of the actual CBS coverage of the Apollo 11 mission, edited without commentary.

It really took me back and gave a more authentic depiction of what broadcast journalism was at the time without the filter of today's broadcast journalism.

I was particularly struck when Cronkite said about Aldrin as he was going back into the LEM, "...39 years old, from Montclair, NJ..." I remember at I think 1 am as an 8 year old jumping up and down saying, "He said Montclair! He said Montclair!" Buzz lived a few block from me as a kid and I walked passed his house on the way to school, so it was all the more personal.

[TKGAngel]

it`s great that we were alive to see the greatest era of space exploration that all current living souls will ever see.

That's true. You guys get the moon. My generation gets broken toilets on the space station. :\


And who can forget the premiere of Sesame Street, which changed the way many people thought about the educational potential of TV for kids.

What's sad is that during a Capital Fourth earlier this month the adults were the only ones singing along to Sesame Street songs like "C is for Cookie," "Sing a Song" and "I Love Trash." Most of the kiddos could have cared less.

[dando]

Did anyone else catch "Live from '69: Moon Landing" on the History Channel?

It was simply pieces of the actual CBS coverage of the Apollo 11 mission, edited without commentary.

It really took me back and gave a more authentic depiction of what broadcast journalism was at the time without the filter of today's broadcast journalism.

I was particularly struck when Cronkite said about Aldrin as he was going back into the LEM, "...39 years old, from Montclair, NJ..." I remember at I think 1 am as an 8 year old jumping up and down saying, "He said Montclair! He said Montclair!" Buzz lived a few block from me as a kid and I walked passed his house on the way to school, so it was all the more personal.

Yup. I enjoyed it immensely. I just wish it were a bit longer than ~30 minutes (sans commercials). Nice touch to add the Cronkite passing mention @ the end.

-Kevin

[dando]

What's sad is that during a Capital Fourth earlier this month the adults were the only ones singing along to Sesame Street songs like "C is for Cookie," "Sing a Song" and "I Love Trash." Most of the kiddos could have cared less.

Mine would have been singing right along...one thing I miss now that they've graduated to Noggin and Di$ney Channel is watching Sesame Street in the evening with them. :gomer: Unfortunately there are few original shows anymore, and they basically chop up old episodes to fill in the last 2/3s of the show. :(

-Kevin

[stroker]

It was simply pieces of the actual CBS coverage of the Apollo 11 mission, edited without commentary.

Man, CBS missed an opportunity there. They should have run one uninterrupted hour of prime time for each of the last four days using clips from the original broadcasts each of the nights from Launch to Landing. They'd have probably had higher ratings for that than the sludge they're currently carrying...

[Methanolandbrats]

Man, CBS missed an opportunity there. They should have run one uninterrupted hour of prime time for each of the last four days using clips from the original broadcasts each of the nights from Launch to Landing. They'd have probably had higher ratings for that than the sludge they're currently carrying...

But what if a celebrity divorce/death/marriage/murder occured? Can't risk missing out on ratings and higher ad rates.

[Napoleon]

Fake :gomer:

I triple dog dare you to say that to Buzz Aldrin.


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[stroker]

Man, the audio from that told the tale. That mofo punch landed.

I think those qualified as "fighting words" so at least he didn't have to worry about the charges...

[Napoleon]

I think those qualified as "fighting words" so at least he didn't have to worry about the charges...

I read somewhere in the past the police simply refused to charge him.

[nissan gtp]

haha nice punch :rofl:

[Elmo T]

That mofo punch landed.
..

No doubt and probably not the first punch he has thrown over his career. ;)


Aldrin graduated third in his class at West Point in 1951 with a B.S. in mechanical engineering. He was commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and served as a jet fighter pilot during the Korean War. He flew 66 combat missions in F-86 Sabres and shot down two Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15 aircraft.

[dando]

I read somewhere in the past the police simply refused to charge him.

Would YOU want to charge him after that? ;) Buzz didn't even step into that punch and almost knocked the other dude off his feet. Just goes to prove what I've seen/heard/read about Buzz the past week...you never know what you're gonna get. :thumbup: :D

-Kevin

[emjaya]

I read somewhere (in a link in this thread?) that guy was whining that he had lost his job, house, wife, and dignity ;), all because he thinks the moon landing was a fake.

I suppose it doesn't occur to the fool that maybe he is wrong.

[Methanolandbrats]

I read somewhere (in a link in this thread?) that guy was whining that he had lost his job, house, wife, and dignity ;), all because he thinks the moon landing was a fake.

I suppose it doesn't occur to the fool that maybe he is wrong.

That guy has all that's required to run a race series :thumbup:

[EVL29]

That idiot was wearing jeans and a blazer. He deserved to get punched.



Douchebag.

[Napoleon]

I suppose it doesn't occur to the fool that maybe he is wrong.

I will go out on a limb and guess the guy is a first class a-hole even when he happens to be right.

[G.]

The video of him punching the guy makes him the number 1 American hero in my book. :thumbup:


Then this deflates that...

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For the love of God, don't hit play. :(

[dando]

For the love of God, don't hit play. :(

:saywhat: :eek:

-Kevin

[Elmo T]

For the love of God, don't hit play. :(

No doubt someone convinced him it was a great way to "reach the kids." :D

[cameraman]

For the love of God, don't hit play. :(

Who produced that and most importantly WHY??????

[chop456]

Now 50 years. And this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen on the innernet:

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/

Credit to SteveH(?)

[nrc]

Now 50 years. And this is one of the coolest things I've ever seen on the innernet:

https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/

Credit to SteveH(?)

That's awesome. I don't even know where to start with that.

[chop456]

Up and running "live" now at T+16h. I don't know that I can adequately describe what a great site/idea this is. These guys should win every Webby for the next 10 years. Check it out. :thumbup:

[TravelGal]

That's awesome. I don't even know where to start with that.


Up and running "live" now at T+16h. I don't know that I can adequately describe what a great site/idea this is. These guys should win every Webby for the next 10 years. Check it out. :thumbup:

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: I've got it on now. How am I going to get any work done?

Less dramatic but equally wonderful in its own way, check out today's Google doodle by Mike Collins. Perfect for kids of all ages.

[SteveH]

From Apollo 11

https://i.imgur.com/AtGd8k4_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[TravelGal]

I'm absolutely glued to my computer. It's like watching "Senna." You know how it comes out but you're riveted anyway. Something a little calmer from Frank Buckley interviews the former head of JPL, who was there in the room.
https://ktla.com/2019/07/10/frank-buckley-interviews-professor-charles-elachi-jet-propulsion-laboratory-director-2001-2016/

[pfc_m_drake]

This has been a year filled with memorable anniversaries.

75 years ago this year was the invasion at Normandy.
50 years ago this year was (obviously) the Apollo moon landing
25 years ago this year a bunch of things happened. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/25-things-you-may-not-believe-happened-25-years-ago/ss-AACPMTY#image=1)

Crazy

[indyfan31]

25 years ago this year a bunch of things happened.

Aug. 29: Oasis releases debut album -- Filler?

[pfc_m_drake]

25 years ago this year a bunch of things happened.

Aug. 29: Oasis releases debut album -- Filler?
Yes, it would seem so!

[jimclark]

25 years ago this year a bunch of things happened.

Aug. 29: Oasis releases debut album
Oh. :rolleyes: :p



Aug. 29: Oasis releases debut album -- Filler?

Yes, it would seem so!
Aye yi yi. :shakehead:
Or, was that a different name for "Definitely Maybe"? :confused:

[jimclark]

t really took me back and gave a more authentic depiction of what broadcast journalism was at the time without the filter of today's broadcast journalism.
Journalism? How about editorialism. Or, better yet, just plain agenda-ism. ;)



My generation gets broken toilets on the space station. :\
Designed, I presume, by none other than Howard Wolowitz..... :D

(for the uninitiated, "The Big Bang Theory" ;))

[Elmo T]

Journalism? How about editorialism. Or, better yet, just plain agenda-ism. ;)



Designed, I presume, by none other than Howard Wolowitz..... :D

(for the uninitiated, "The Big Bang Theory" ;))

I don't think you are going to get a reply from Andrew. #JustSaying

[devilmaster]

I don't think you are going to get a reply from Andrew. #JustSaying

Its great that 15 years on, offcamber is still here....

Its sad just how big the Hall of Fame is. :(

[TravelGal]

Its great that 15 years on, offcamber is still here....

Its sad just how big the Hall of Fame is. :(

You got that right. See dando's name so often. Even came across a trip I did for him when I redid my files. Really missing Oddlycalm. Railbird. So many others. :(

[pfc_m_drake]

You got that right. See dando's name so often. Even came across a trip I did for him when I redid my files. Really missing Oddlycalm. Railbird. So many others. :(Couldn't have said it better.
Miss all you guys :(

[nrc]

You got that right. See dando's name so often. Even came across a trip I did for him when I redid my files. Really missing Oddlycalm. Railbird. So many others. :(

That was my thought when I saw the history on this.

Let's all do our best to hang in there for the Mars landings in what? 15 years?

[chop456]

In keeping with traditional Tesla timelines/estimates, Musk just announced that the SpaceX Mars mission launches Tuesday at 3PM.

[nrc]

I keeping with traditional Tesla timelines/estimates, Musk just announced that the SpaceX Mars mission launches Tuesday at 3PM.

:rofl: