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JoeBob
01-12-03, 10:49 AM
This one has to be the ugliest car in recent memory. Ugly car, with a paint job that would be bad on a nice looking car.
http://www.indyracing.com/photo/2003/01102003/images/brackpioneer.jpg

I know some of you have forgotten more about racing than I'll ever know. What are some of the other ugliest race cars of all time?

cart7
01-12-03, 11:12 AM
I'd say that fugly green colored Telefonica car servia ran where they had a pole to pick the name of that color.

RTKar
01-12-03, 11:31 AM
At least they could have rounded off the rear wing end plates to make it look a little bit like a race car.

Turn7
01-12-03, 11:42 AM
It looks as if they tried to copy the Sigma car. However, the Sigma paint job looked much better.

http://www.reportroadrage.co.uk/champcar/car22s.jpg

TrueBrit
01-12-03, 11:50 AM
That nose looks perfect for a little spearing action no?

Napoleon
01-12-03, 11:50 AM
I don't follow the IRL. Whose car is that and what is its make.

cart7
01-12-03, 12:11 PM
That's Brack and I believe that's a Dallara.

The wedge shaped nose was designed to lift the rear-ends of the cars in front that have been stuck side-by-side for the last 40 laps. :gomer:

Ziggy
01-12-03, 12:24 PM
Well, the Lilly Newman Haas sled was pretty ugly, for having such great looking cousins on the same racetrack.

Any IRL car is pretty ugly, the lower buck the team, the worse it gets. It was amazing to me the first time I saw the Target Cars testing in 2000 of how much better they could look if a professional outfit got to work on them. The body work all fit, and some of the parts were chrome and polished! What a concept. Curry only billed Menard for chrome, never actually did any of it!

Dick Simon's Mallox car for that Frog driver was real tacky. John Jones candian beer car from the early 90's at Indy was ugly.

From a design standpoint, these new "grandAM" car's that the France family endorses are very ugly. Butt ugly actually.

There used to be some rather ugly homebuilt IndyCars in the late 60's through the kit car era in '83. The Minnesota Serendipity, The Mid West Durapot, some of the wedge design's after a few season's of "refinement" got to be looking rather ungainly. Lee Kunzman's "Cave's City Buick comes to mind. Darrel Dockery in the "Reed Cams," Kevin Bartlett with some very weird looking Chevy powered car in '69 or so. Cicada, Atlanta, Hamilton, Jerry Karl's chopped up McLaren. When ground effects came in, lots of low buck guys with big plans started hacking up oldercars and doing their own aero work with shears and bench brakes. They did when wings first came around as well.

F1 is a whole different subject, but they have had some dogs as well. I always thought all of Surtee's cars were ugly. Some of the early Brabham's were ugly, even the championship winning cars of Denny and Jack of '66 and '67. Then the Lobster Claw, which was just fugly. March had the coffee table wing ugly looking pig, and the "721X" which was just hideous IMO. While being a McLaren fan, I never liked the M19 type, just too small and low line for my taste's. Good car however with its rising rate suspension.

just my two cents

Ziggy

pchall
01-12-03, 12:36 PM
This is the most hideous formula car I can remember:

http://f1rejects.crosswinds.net/teams/eifelland/eifelland2.jpg


What the Eifelland team thought they were doing with a perfectly respectable March 721 chassis is beyond my imagination...

Eagle104
01-12-03, 12:43 PM
The Anteres from the early '70s were almost criminal.:eek:

RTKar
01-12-03, 01:45 PM
How about the 1964 Smokey Yunnick, "Hurst Floor Shift Special"? Had a side mounted cockpit....looked like something Herman Munster would drive.

Lizzerd
01-12-03, 02:31 PM
Over on another forum, The Faithful are gushing at the beauty of Brack's car. I guess it's that "... in the eyes of the beholder" thing.

mnkywrch
01-12-03, 10:40 PM
Oh, this is always no contest:

http://www.forix.com//iex/imgz/_wirz/199504007_wirz_.jpg

Makes the first generation IRL cars look good.

WickerBill
01-12-03, 10:40 PM
That looks like a two seater with the second seat enclosed.

WB

rabbit
01-13-03, 12:43 AM
http://www.autoracing1.com/Images/2003/IRL/Testing/HelioTexas1.jpg

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mnkywrch
01-13-03, 02:40 PM
I still think the 1995 McLaren car is uglier than any Indy/Champcar in the past 20 years...

Hink
01-13-03, 07:23 PM
USAC: That thing that Kenny Hamilton brought to the speedway in 1982. DNQ on looks alone.

CART: Any car after Shiggy got done with it. Otherwise they're normally pretty decent loooking.

IRL: Those cars aren't exactly lookers.

Sport: Late Can Am II Frissbees. They looked fine only when viewed from the front. From any other angle it looked like they forgot to take it out of the box.

F1: The 1983 Liger - the JSwhoeverTheHellCaresItsSoUgly

pchall
01-13-03, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by mnkywrch
Oh, this is always no contest:

http://www.forix.com//iex/imgz/_wirz/199504007_wirz_.jpg

Makes the first generation IRL cars look good.

acckk!! It took me years of therapy to forget that...

Will you be responible for my new bills?

mnkywrch
01-13-03, 10:32 PM
Originally posted by pchall
acckk!! It took me years of therapy to forget that...

Will you be responible for my new bills?

Nope - it was a thread on cars that got hit with the ugly stick; what did you expect? ;)

I'd have one question for Ron Dennis - how do you do this in three consecutive years:

1994:
http://www.forix.com/iex/imgz/_mlarue/199406007_mlarue_.jpg

1995:
http://www.forix.com//iex/imgz/_wirz/199504007_wirz_.jpg

1996:
http://www.forix.com/iex/imgz/1996/08008_he.jpg

Whadda he do in 1995, let Stevie Wonder design the car?

Cam
01-13-03, 10:45 PM
#! Cool
#2 disaster in Engineering :rolleyes:
@3 Not tooo bad....

Cam

IlliniRacer
01-15-03, 12:00 PM
I can't decide which is worse. The current IRL sled or the Daytona Prototypes.:shakehead

mnkywrch
01-15-03, 01:26 PM
There's a doubt in your mind?

Look at it this way - at the very least, the IRL Falcon chassis looks decent.

Do any of the Daytona Prototypes look attractive at all?

JoeBob
01-15-03, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by mnkywrch
There's a doubt in your mind?

Look at it this way - at the very least, the IRL Falcon chassis looks decent.

Do any of the Daytona Prototypes look attractive at all?

But we might actually see the Daytona prototype on the track.

And we haven't seen the long-nose Falcon painted yet. The carbon black hides quite a bit.

Don Quixote
01-15-03, 01:45 PM
What year was that Ligier that had the huge protruding airbox? Now that was ugly, but left plenty of room for sponsors.

mnkywrch
01-15-03, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Don Quixote
What year was that Ligier that had the huge protruding airbox? Now that was ugly, but left plenty of room for sponsors.

1976.

http://www.mcz.com/f1/image/archive/ligier76.jpg

Don Quixote
01-15-03, 01:54 PM
Ouch. I forgot just how fugly that was. Did that chassis ever race?

Napoleon
01-15-03, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by mnkywrch
1976.

http://www.mcz.com/f1/image/archive/ligier76.jpg

Oh my God.

mnkywrch
01-15-03, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by Napoleon
Oh my God.

See, the IRL car with the Anna Nicole Smith engine compartment doesn't look so bad now, does it?

mnkywrch
01-15-03, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Don Quixote
Ouch. I forgot just how fugly that was. Did that chassis ever race?

I'm not 8W, but it ran at least the first three races in 1976...

MAXAR RE
01-15-03, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by mnkywrch
1976.

http://www.mcz.com/f1/image/archive/ligier76.jpg

That looks like Franklin's idea of the perfect race car! :rofl:

DaveL
01-15-03, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by mnkywrch
1976.

http://www.mcz.com/f1/image/archive/ligier76.jpg

Why does the term, "polar moment of inertia" immedietely come to mind when I see that car?

If nothing else, that car must have been a safety hazard if for no other reason than noone would have been able to see anything in front of it.