View Full Version : USF1 adjusts expectations: chapter 1
oddlycalm
10-07-09, 04:40 PM
If this statement looks familiar it's because one of our forum members brought attention to the superlicense issue here months ago...:gomer:
"I'm still hoping we'll be able to run one American, but that's a tall order because there aren't many Americans out there with superlicences."
No American drivers for USF1? (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/79326)
oc
WTF? Wasn't that the whole point of this so called F1 team? What a wanker Peter Windsor is. WTF is wrong with Summerton, Rahal, RHR, Hildebrand, Marco or Giebler? Rossi, Newgartten, Daly and Jake Rosewinski (sp?) are not ready yet, granted, but the above mentioned guys could do the job.
At least Windsor should offer a seat to Rahal; wait for Rahal to politely turn it down, before saying there won't be any Americans in the F1 team started purposely to have an American in F1. It's not like the team is called Trinidad F1 for crying out loud. There must be some American out there capable of driving an F1 car. Again, wtf? :saywhat::thumdown:
Bring back Mikey! :gomer: Is UnderaCheever considered Uhmerican or Cannuck these days? :tony:
:shakehead :saywhat:
-Kevin
It's a BS argument. The FIA can grant a Super License to a ham sandwich if they want to. The real problem is no American drivers have the cash to fund this project.
Maybe they can label their driver a "potential American" since everyone could potentially earn their citizenship. :gomer:
Maybe my theory of hiring Danica as a way of generating sponsorship wasn't that far fetched. They'll have Vitaly Petrov as one of the drivers which will be ironic as heck! The first Russian F1 driver, drives for USF1. :rofl:
cameraman
10-07-09, 07:00 PM
WTF? WTF is wrong with Summerton, Rahal, RHR, Hildebrand, Marco or Giebler?
Marco? Granted you were on a rant when you wrote that but still:saywhat:
Marco? Granted you were on a rant when you wrote that but still:saywhat:
I threw that in there for you guys! ;) Marco would follow in his father's footsteps in F1 like Nakajima jr is following in his father's footsteps.... :saywhat:
Michaelhatesfans
10-08-09, 02:50 AM
Too bad Special Ed is already under contract...
Lux Interior
10-09-09, 12:57 AM
Sarah Fisher and Danica Patrick. :D
devilmaster
10-09-09, 02:15 AM
i still ain't holdin my breath on this one....
BarillaGirl
10-16-09, 03:53 PM
It's a BS argument. The FIA can grant a Super License to a ham sandwich if they want to.
I can't help it... the first person this made me think of was Paul Tracy. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
I can't help it... the first person this made me think of was Paul Tracy. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
As if he could fit in the car! Still, though, it would be fun to watch him.
oddlycalm
10-16-09, 07:10 PM
I can't help it... the first person this made me think of was Paul Tracy. :rofl::rofl::rofl:
There you go Gnam, a ham sandwich it is. :laugh:
oc
AKA Canadian Bacon. :D:thumbup:
BarillaGirl
10-17-09, 10:16 AM
AKA Canadian Bacon. :D:thumbup:
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
For some reason no other team are getting this kind of press?
http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=351439
The reports said that at a recent FOTA meeting, all team bosses with the exception of USF1 sporting director Peter Windsor wanted to forbid teams from selling their official entries.
Oh. Now, I get it. :dollar-dollar bill y'all:
Was it just me or did Speed's USF1 tour look like a bad infomercial?
Was it just me or did Speed's USF1 tour look like a bad infomercial?
Yes. "Hey, we got milling machines!"
I was waiting for the asking price to be mentioned.
:shakehead
extramundane
11-09-09, 10:47 AM
nMh3qu5GtZA
oddlycalm
11-09-09, 06:48 PM
Yes. "Hey, we got milling machines!"
Right, and I bet they didn't pay a dime to park them there. Ken Anderson and Gene Haas are buddies and between the free promotion and slow machine market it's not hard to guess.
What we should have been seeing is actual car components being made. Unless they're well along in the build process they haven't a ghost of a chance of putting a car on the grid.
oc
Hard Driver
11-10-09, 12:11 PM
Yea,
I saw that piece on speed and thought they looked like they had no chance to put a car on the grid. First, a computer model is a starting point, but a wind tunnel is needed to really test the aero. Second, a milling machine does not make carbon fiber body pieces. And they did not show any carbon fiber. Third, real teams have a hundred people in their factory and USF1 looked like they had about 3.
So while I wish them luck, I am a skeptic they can actually produce.
Rogue Leader
11-10-09, 07:58 PM
Yea,
I saw that piece on speed and thought they looked like they had no chance to put a car on the grid. First, a computer model is a starting point, but a wind tunnel is needed to really test the aero. Second, a milling machine does not make carbon fiber body pieces. And they did not show any carbon fiber. Third, real teams have a hundred people in their factory and USF1 looked like they had about 3.
So while I wish them luck, I am a skeptic they can actually produce.
Two words come to mind when watching them...
Mastercard Lola.
They look woefully far behind.... I hope it works out, but I expect the worst...
oddlycalm
11-10-09, 09:18 PM
I saw that piece on speed and thought they looked like they had no chance to put a car on the grid. First, a computer model is a starting point, but a wind tunnel is needed to really test the aero. Second, a milling machine does not make carbon fiber body pieces. And they did not show any carbon fiber. Third, real teams have a hundred people in their factory and USF1 looked like they had about 3.
They did show an autoclave for curing CF parts and an SLA machine for 3D modeling but about the rest I agree, it all looks staged for the benefit potential investors and sponsors that don't know the difference and there is no evidence of the necessary activities going on.
Anderson's buddy Gene Haas does own the Windshear tunnel but that doesn't mean he has access to it. I heard it's booked solid (including F1 teams) because it's the only full scale rolling road tunnel in existence AFAIK.
oc
TRANSAM
11-11-09, 01:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOYE4d42tnk
oddlycalm
11-11-09, 06:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOYE4d42tnk
Funny. The Windshear facility is presented as if the own it or have free access to it. If these guys show up the grid with car and drivers ready to go they will have achieved a level of secrecy the CIA would admire. :laugh:
oc
High Sided
11-11-09, 06:55 PM
Funny. The Windshear facility is presented as if the own it or have free access to it. :laugh:
oc
funnier is the guy who posted it only other posts are prank phone calls :confused:
that dude is rude
cameraman
11-12-09, 02:04 AM
Anyone care to show me the tours of the Campos Meta and Manor Grand Prix facilities?
chop456
11-12-09, 02:20 AM
Anyone care to show me the tours of the Campos Meta and Manor Grand Prix facilities?
Campos already passed a crash test, so I'd say even if they're building the car in a van down by the river, they're still ahead of USF1.
opinionated ow
11-12-09, 05:36 AM
Campos already passed a crash test, so I'd say even if they're building the car in a van down by the river, they're still ahead of USF1.
And Manor is an existing British F3 team and if I'm correct they're one of the teams that likes to make their own bits to improve their Dallaras.
Rogue Leader
11-12-09, 02:54 PM
http://www.racer.com/Toyota-to-sell-2010-car-to-new-F1-team/article/157631/?DCMP=EMC-RACER_DAILY
USF1 Better jump on that as they seem to have NO chance otherwise.....
http://www.racer.com/Toyota-to-sell-2010-car-to-new-F1-team/article/157631/?DCMP=EMC-RACER_DAILY
USF1 Better jump on that as they seem to have NO chance otherwise.....
USF1 probably can't even afford the overseas phone call.
Campos already passed a crash test, so I'd say even if they're building the car in a van down by the river, they're still ahead of USF1.
:D :laugh:
Campos already passed a crash test, so I'd say even if they're building the car in a van down by the river, they're still ahead of USF1.
Well, crashing a test chassis is a greater technical achievement than launching a web site. But, sheesh, they should have more than a crummy splash page up.
www.manorgp.com
http://www.camposmeta.com/
extramundane
11-13-09, 12:22 PM
http://www.camposmeta.com/
http://i37.tinypic.com/sltveg.jpg
Maybe building the car in a van down by the river isn't too far off.
http://www.usgpe.com/
Can't seem to find "Lotus"
http://lotusf1racing.my/ Most exciting, I hear their already trying to cut the budget.
High Sided
11-13-09, 08:06 PM
F1: USF1 Will Be On 2010 Grid
$440,000 say's so ;)
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-usf1-will-be-on-2010-grid/
chop456
11-14-09, 10:59 AM
Awesome. If the check has 4 tires, can fit a driver inside and has something in the back that goes "Vroom!", I think they're in business.
eiregosod
11-16-09, 10:00 AM
uh oh!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJTynvakZok&feature=related
:rofl:
eiregosod
11-17-09, 11:07 AM
more Windsor animations:
windsor concerned about missing car design http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwcZR86pK3Y&feature=related
matchett talks about his visit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMh3qu5GtZA&feature=related
windor concerned over too few press releases http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB6eJluXEbs
windsor has an idea to include more US drivers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j_cYbPafoY
mike gascoyne comes to visit :rofl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WZSTijeZM
opinionated ow
11-17-09, 11:49 AM
more Windsor animations:
windsor concerned about missing car design http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwcZR86pK3Y&feature=related
matchett talks about his visit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMh3qu5GtZA&feature=related
windor concerned over too few press releases http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB6eJluXEbs
windsor has an idea to include more US drivers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1j_cYbPafoY
mike gascoyne comes to visit :rofl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WZSTijeZM
ROFLMAO!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Is there a betting line yet on whether USF1 takes the grid?
Michaelhatesfans
11-17-09, 05:57 PM
The two seater is ready. Take that, you cynics!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_vHvUA1cx7pk/RtwL6r6MThI/AAAAAAAAADM/baGsY0waW7c/s1600/23-1.jpg
nissan gtp
11-17-09, 06:09 PM
mike gascoyne comes to visit :rofl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0WZSTijeZM
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Rogue Leader
11-21-09, 11:28 AM
USF1 Signs Jose Maria Lopez:
http://www.racintoday.com/archives/12180
what am I missing culturally? Maria?? I thought Latino/South American countries were pretty specific about the name genders.
Others on Anderson’s short list include former world champion Jacques Villeneuve, Peugeot sports car driver and former Renault test driver Franck Montagny and young American ace Jonathan Summerton.
That's just a punchline by now, right?
Maria seems to be a common middle name...I don`t recall any other. Yes, it`s strange.
cameraman
11-21-09, 01:18 PM
He brings eight million in sponsorship. Or he needs to in order to get in the car...
Rogue Leader
11-21-09, 02:58 PM
In other news he recently shortened his name from Jose Maria Lopez Mazzacane
In other news he recently shortened his name from Jose Maria Lopez Mazzacane
Translation: Joesph Mary Lopez Dog Killer ;)
He is better than Mazzacane tho.
oddlycalm
11-21-09, 04:21 PM
USF1's credibility was already at zero so the ride buyer doesn't really change anything. If they hadn't made all the noise about US drivers it might be different, yet the did.
oc
cameraman
11-21-09, 04:34 PM
Hey, the dude was born & raised in America and all....
US$ 8 meg. Didn't Pedro de la Rossa carry that much around as pocket money during his active F1 career? Wonder when USF1 will try to dig him out of his testing driver grave?
extramundane
11-21-09, 05:42 PM
That's just a punchline by now, right?
If they even semi-seriously consider Poutine Jesus, then Windsor deserves 13 crotch punches.
He brings eight million in sponsorship. Or he needs to in order to get in the car...
Is that all? Chanoch Nissany paid $6 mill just to be the third driver for Minardi at Hungary, 2005. :\
opinionated ow
11-24-09, 09:16 AM
Force India gets the American :rofl::rofl::laugh::laugh:
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21990.html
chop456
11-24-09, 09:40 AM
Hildebrand is from California and has to prominence on the American racing scene thanks to his victory in the Indy Lights series.
So much prominence that I've never heard of him. Should I?
US$ 8 meg. Didn't Pedro de la Rossa carry that much around as pocket money during his active F1 career?
You might be thinking of Pedro Diniz.
Yeah, the JR test is a good thing. He was one of those guys you just wished had someplace to go besides Lights but his success there was almost a given. He has loads of talent but not loads of money, sooo....? Surprised you had not heard of him, he's legit.
datachicane
11-24-09, 11:40 AM
I'm a horrible source for this (being the pastiest anglo on the planet), but IIRC Hispanic name construction differs in that there are two surnames. Again, IIUC, Jose would be his given name, Maria would be his father's (traditionally, anyway) surname, and Lopez would be his mother's surname.
Accourse :gomer: he might have another name yet, which would make Maria part of a compound first name (Jose Maria), since middle names don't exist in Hispanic naming conventions. This entire post would thus be rendered pointless, and I would look like an idiot, so I'm lobbying for the other alternative without actually being motivated enough to look up his actual name.
I doubt a guy who has been racing touring cars for 3-seasons has the money to do F1. If he had any money he'd be racing GP2, IRL or LMP cars, not 2-liter Touring cars in Argentina.
cameraman
11-24-09, 02:06 PM
Force India gets the American :rofl::rofl::laugh::laugh:
http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21990.html
There is a massive difference between a test and a seat.
Yeah, the JR test is a good thing. He was one of those guys you just wished had someplace to go besides Lights but his success there was almost a given. He has loads of talent but not loads of money, sooo....? Surprised you had not heard of him, he's legit.
Heard of him. Watched him (in Atlantics). Mid-packer at best. IMO
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8633/taf1p01.jpg
...from here http://www.teamamericaf1.com/blog/ :D
Michaelhatesfans
11-24-09, 06:12 PM
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8633/taf1p01.jpg
...from here http://www.teamamericaf1.com/blog/ :D
Needs more woodgrain stickers
cameraman
11-25-09, 09:44 PM
Campos already passed a crash test, so I'd say even if they're building the car in a van down by the river, they're still ahead of USF1.
They now have an official FIA stamp of approval.
"The homologation of the cockpit is a critical point that defines the status and quality of a Formula 1 car. The fact of having our cockpit completely homologised puts us in a privileged position and allows us to keep on developing the car.
"Dallara has done a great job in order to have everything on time and pass all the tests on the first attempt. We still have to pass the homologation of the rear structure which follows the same process and has already passed our previous internal tests."
Love to hear from Sir Windsor how far along that process the USF1 sled is.:rolleyes:
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