USF1 #2?

[NismoZ]

Jose Maria Lopez wants Adrian Valles the Superleague champ to be his partner in '010. So much for the "one experienced driver" guess, IF this happens.

[Sean Malone]

I saw that the troll has OK'd the new teams to skip the first 3 races without penalty. Bets on if that even helps?

[Methanolandbrats]

I saw that the troll has OK'd the new teams to skip the first 3 races without penalty. Bets on if that even helps?

They don't have enough cash to pay Bernie's fines now, so he's hoping they will in a couple months.

[Sean Malone]

They don't have enough cash to pay Bernie's fines now, so he's hoping they will in a couple months.

See, he really is a nice guy! :D

[Easy]

Max's sock puppet Jean Todt clarified the rule. He made it clear that whatever the rule says, they're not allowed to skip any rounds.

[Shadow]

I gather their cars are no where near ready and I've heard that BE is trying to arrange a merger with Campos.

[STD]

:rofl:

[opinionated ow]

I gather their cars are no where near ready and I've heard that BE is trying to arrange a merger with Campos.

Even Mastercard Lola showed up for the first race!

[chop456]

Do you need drivers if you don't have a car? Chicken vs. Egg? Will Windsor end up in court for spending the kid's money and never providing a car? Can the drivers go sit on the grid with arms and legs outstretched making vroom vroom noises to avoid the penalty? :gomer:

What an embarassment. I think somehow it wouldn't have been so bad if anyone actually expected them to make it. Watching the slow motion train wreck has been painful.

[High Sided]

finally some news...:gomer:
http://www.onestopstrategy.com/dailyf1news/nieuw/article/10334-Key+USF1+figure+leaves+American+team.html

[Michaelhatesfans]

finally some news...:gomer:
http://www.onestopstrategy.com/dailyf1news/nieuw/article/10334-Key+USF1+figure+leaves+American+team.html

That article uses a photo of Michael Schumacher in a Ferrari. Probably the high water mark in credibility for USF1.

[STD]

finally some news...:gomer:
http://www.onestopstrategy.com/dailyf1news/nieuw/article/10334-Key+USF1+figure+leaves+American+team.html

I remember Bonner use to drive a Spice GTP for Tom Milner's team in the early 90's.
A key loss to a headless going nowhere organization is a bit much.

[Steve99]

Do you need drivers if you don't have a car?
Yes. If they bring a big check.

[Rogue Leader]

Not looking good

http://axisofoversteer.blogspot.com/2010/02/usf1-argentina-called-they-are-sending.html

[STD]

Never did look good.

[High Sided]

http://www.pechitolopez.com.ar/nota.php?idn=90

People lopez press announces that:

Taking into account the amount of information dumped on the participation of Jose Maria Lopez pilot in Formula 1 in the 2010 season is reported in yesterday Jose Maria Lopez (father) with Felipe Mc Gough and visited the headquarters Victor Rosso of USF1 in Charlotte, USA, to make contact with team officials.

At that meeting several issues were touched to know in depth the state of affairs of the new squadron commanding Peter Windsor and Ken Anderson.

After the meeting with a certain idea of the current state of the U.S. team last night set out for London, England.

In London, several meetings were generated, one with executives of the FOM (Formula One Management) who presides over Bernie Ecclestone. The result of these was positive and expected for a similar agenda on Thursday to today.

Lopez (p), Mc Gough and Rosso are scheduled to return to our country next weekend.

Now is official for us.

[oddlycalm]

Today, Feb. 17, I was supposed to fly to Charlotte and tour the shop for a story in an upcoming issue of the magazine. I was going to be the first journalist from a major automotive outlet to do so. Instead, I'm sitting in my Detroit office.


Speed TV has hired a replacement for Windsor, who served for years as the network's F1 track reporter, and that it has no plans to ask the new man to step aside.

Autoweek article (http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100217/FREE/100219906)

To say this was predictable is like calling a dwarf short. I have no idea what the hell they were thinking. Windsor magically transforms himself from a guy that gets well paid to attend every race of the season with full paddock access into a guy that won't be able to show his face in the paddock again. If they did take the Argentine money under false pretenses that could be the least of his problems. :shakehead

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[Rogue Leader]

Campos Set for Takeover:

http://www.racer.com/campos-set-for-takeover/article/163994/

there goes that USF1 theory....

[Gnam]

Speed TV has hired a replacement for Windsor, who served for years as the network's F1 track reporter, and that it has no plans to ask the new man to step aside.
Wonder who they hired? I vote for Villeneuve.

[cameraman]

Wonder who they hired? I vote for Villeneuve.

Maybe Kenny Wallace

[Elmo T]

How soon till we see the "Hitler hears about USF1 folding" video?

[Methanolandbrats]

Wonder who they hired? I vote for Villeneuve.
Eddie Cheever. After all, he is a Euro, knows everything there is to know about racing, was a front runner in F1 and he drank the milk.:gomer:

[grungex]

I do hope it's Darrell Waltrip. :gomer:

[Methanolandbrats]

Scooter Goodyear for his technical insights :yuck:

[STD]

Eddie Cheever. After all, he is a Euro, knows everything there is to know about racing, was a front runner in F1 and he drank the milk.:gomer:

So true. :rofl:

[Rogue Leader]

Autoweek reports Lopez signed with Campos Meta yesterday to salvage his season

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100218/F1/100219890

I'm still in complete shock that of all people Peter Windsor should know exactly what it takes to make it to the grid in F1. This whole deal is crazy.

[STD]

What is the deal with Lopez? Are they afraid he'll end up in indycar? :laugh:

[Andrew Longman]

I'm still in complete shock that of all people Peter Windsor should know exactly what it takes to make it to the grid in F1. This whole deal is crazy.

I'm also pretty sure Peter knows enough to know how to make a small fortune without ever actually putting a car on the grid.

[Elmo T]

Wonder who they hired? I vote for Villeneuve.

He will be too busy driving for Stefan GP... ;)

"We are very near to a contract with Jacques Villeneuve, and probably also with another driver as our reserve driver. But the first one which will be with us is Kazuki Nakajima." (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81593)

[73B]

So I guess Windsor won't be returning Lopez's money? :(


The Argentine government was among López's backers and reportedly had paid the team nearly $900,000 of a promised $2 million.


Tough break for Lopez. Leaves him only $1 million to buy a seat with Campos/Carabante/Hurley/Kolles/Dallara
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100218/F1/100219890

If my scorecard is correct, that leaves Stefan/Toyota F1 to possibly get the U.S. F1 spot on the grid.

What a mess. :confused:

[Indy]

Eddie Cheever. After all, he is a Euro, knows everything there is to know about racing, was a front runner in F1 and he drank the milk.:gomer:

That would be funnier if I thought it was not possible. :shudders:

[Gnam]

He will be too busy driving for Stefan GP... ;)

"We are very near to a contract with Jacques Villeneuve, and probably also with another driver as our reserve driver. But the first one which will be with us is Kazuki Nakajima." (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81593)

Jack Newtown has enough awesome to do both. :gomer:

[Rogue Leader]

So I guess Windsor won't be returning Lopez's money? :(



Tough break for Lopez. Leaves him only $1 million to buy a seat with Campos/Carabante/Hurley/Kolles/Dallara
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100218/F1/100219890

If my scorecard is correct, that leaves Stefan/Toyota F1 to possibly get the U.S. F1 spot on the grid.

What a mess. :confused:

Gotta say smart move by Stefan to go ahead and do it right and be ready. Stefan did what USF1 should have done and bought the Toyotas. Just like Super Aguri did with using the old Arrows chassis, better to put a car on the gird and have more time to build one (even though they just ended up using old BAR designs anyway).

Well... if the FIA lets them in it will be a smart move.

[JohnHKart]

And the words USA+ F1= Failure. Again.

:shakehead

[High Sided]

just a bump in the road, no worries ;)

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gjfSlirwO4ZauCB6aUtCL6D4rkag

[Rogue Leader]

just a bump in the road, no worries ;)

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gjfSlirwO4ZauCB6aUtCL6D4rkag

LOL yeah right.. the FIA is gonna go tell them to pound sand

[Indy]

LOL yeah right.. the FIA is gonna go tell them to pound sand

I'll bet if they didn't have a replacement lined up and ready to go the FIA would let it slide. With Stefan in the wings, they have no chance.

[extramundane]

just a bump in the road, no worries ;)

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9021/bddmpflesh53.jpg

[JohnHKart]

For an insider's view...check out composite Ken's posts on the Atlas board. This team is even more of a complete and total joke than anybody realized. It's not Ken Anderson posting but somebody else who works at USF1. I saw some posts last night but unfortunately the US F1 thread at Atlas already seems to have six more pages than when I read that so I can't find the linking of ken's posts. They are there if you wish to read more.

http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showtopic=115762&st=4880

[FCYTravis]

Here's a link to his profile, if you're a registered member at AtlasF1... you can just click to "Find member's posts" in the options drop-down menu.

http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?showuser=62906

[emjaya]

If you go to the thread titles page and click on the thread replies number, it gives you the names of who has posted in the thread and the number of times they have posted in the thread.

Find the name of the poster you want to read and click on the number of posts they have made and the posts that they have made in that thread come up.

This work on OC as well. It's a lot quicker, especially if the poster is rather prolific in a number of threads.

Composite Ken's posts in Autosport USF1 thread. Here (http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?act=Search&nav=au&CODE=show&searchid=c29c59ee4cc01f6e0e4fcbe4a1b7616c&search_in=posts&result_type=posts)

[JohnHKart]

Thanks guys! I tried searching for just him and his profile but it didn't work.

[Fio1]

This says it all right here:
YouTube's Chad Hurley by name, who was represented in the meetings by his advisor Parris Mullins.
:rofl: Parris Mullins is a car salesman from Silicon Valley. What the F*** does he know about F1 or racing? NOTHING! :shakehead
I met that d-bag at Infineon a few years ago. He talks a good talk and claimed to have done this and that but in reality has never raced anything. What the heck is the CEO of You Tube taking advice from that wanker for? What a waste of a good sponsor....:shakehead

[STD]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
Is everyone that is no one in on the scam?

[Rogue Leader]

USF1 Insider says the team still has a chance if their backer actually backs them:

http://www.racer.com/us-f1-insider-hurley-can-save-team/article/164375/

Charlie Whiting is off to Charlotte to see what kind of a trainwreck this has become:

http://www.racer.com/fia-investigates-us-f1s-ability-to-make-grand-prix-grid/article/164420/

[devilmaster]

"In a meeting between the employees, Windsor and Anderson, Windsor put the question up to the employees: 'Who here doesn't think we'll make Bahrain?' I think he might have meant it somewhat rhetorically, but he was answered nonetheless, and 100 percent of the staff raised their hands. He was visibly shocked.

ouch... :rofl:

[Elmo T]

and 100 percent of the staff raised their hands. He was visibly shocked.



Did he ask for a recount? :laugh:

[cameraman]

Is he utterly clueless or just fully delusional?

[TrueBrit]

Is he utterly clueless or just fully delusional?

Yes.

[Methanolandbrats]

Why would Charlie piss away his time travelling to inspect this cluster****? All they have to do is email him a picture of the tub. That should give him a good idea how "ready" they are.

[Fio1]

Why would Charlie piss away his time travelling to inspect this cluster****? All they have to do is email him a picture of the tub. That should give him a good idea how "ready" they are.

So he can pull the plug and let the Serbs get the tires to start testing.

[Rogue Leader]

Why would Charlie piss away his time travelling to inspect this cluster****? All they have to do is email him a picture of the tub. That should give him a good idea how "ready" they are.

Its probably more to evaluate if they can even make it to the 4th race... Which considering what we have heard so far I doubt that as well.

[Michaelhatesfans]

"In a meeting between the employees, Windsor and Anderson, Windsor put the question up to the employees: 'Who here doesn't think we'll make Bahrain?' I think he might have meant it somewhat rhetorically, but he was answered nonetheless, and 100 percent of the staff raised their hands. He was visibly shocked."

I'm shocked that he was shocked.:confused:

Jesus, his staff stands around for months looking at piles of equipment and the machine the goes "bing," medicore tasks are highlighted on the website and billed as "progress" - meanwhile no car is actually produced, and Windsor has the audacity to question their optimism?

[Michaelhatesfans]

Why would Charlie piss away his time travelling to inspect this cluster****? All they have to do is email him a picture of the tub. That should give him a good idea how "ready" they are.

Maybe he's hand delivering their formal expulsion from the championship, the exact delivery point being Windsor's arse. Oh yeah, and to officially inform them that henceforth Bernie will send the attoneys if anyone involved in that fiasco ever even uses the term "F1" in a sentence.

[Rogue Leader]

Hurley pushes for merger with Stefan GP (probably the only chance USF1 has of putting a car on the grid even in name only)

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100226/F1/100229925

[High Sided]

doesn't look like merger talk to me :p
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/stefan-gp-attacks-usf1-fia/

[oddlycalm]

As they say, you can't make this stuff up. :shakehead Windsor won't be able to show his face in an F1 paddock again, no real loss to F1...

The icing on the idiot cake is Stefan GP fitting Villeneuve with a seat. :gomer:
Stefan GP goes idiotic (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81769)

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[Gnam]

Why would Charlie piss away his time travelling to inspect this cluster****? All they have to do is email him a picture of the tub. That should give him a good idea how "ready" they are.

They did. Charlie is quoted as saying, "I gotta see this in person."

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5893/fw1548rc350.jpg

[trish]

If they can get the toasters out of the wind tunnel pronto, maybe they can raise some needed funds to get back to work. I'll buy the second one.

[Rogue Leader]

doesn't look like merger talk to me :p
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/stefan-gp-attacks-usf1-fia/


As they say, you can't make this stuff up. :shakehead Windsor won't be able to show his face in an F1 paddock again, no real loss to F1...

The icing on the idiot cake is Stefan GP fitting Villeneuve with a seat. :gomer:
Stefan GP goes idiotic (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81769)

oc

Yep guess that one didn't work out!

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100227/F1/100229917

[Easy]

Shocking as it may not be...

Racer mag says USF1 has asked to defer until 2011. No link yet.

/Falconed

[oddlycalm]

Shocking as it may not be...

Racer mag says USF1 has asked to defer until 2011. No link yet.

/Falconed

Sure, no problem, give them the keys to the kingdom, everyone will enjoy spending another 12 months getting jerked around by these wankers...:gomer: :shakehead

oc

[pchall]

How can anybody accomplish so little while squandering so many resources?

[Easy]

SpeedTV says they had Jim Rossiter signed back in December with $8mil in sponsorship. $16mil from drivers alone plus Chad Hurley and they couldn't even build one car?

[Rogue Leader]

SpeedTV says they had Jim Rossiter signed back in December with $8mil in sponsorship. $16mil from drivers alone plus Chad Hurley and they couldn't even build one car?

At least Mastercard Lola put SOMETHING on the track... however s***** it was.

[Rogue Leader]

USF1 Asks for Deferral

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100301/F1/100309998

Whats really messed up is luckily Rossiter found an alternative seat, however they may have really f****ed Lopez hard...

[oddlycalm]

Employees sent home, building closed, telephones disconnected. No talk of a year deferral today. Windsor and Anderson didn't bother to tell the employees themselves. Guessing Charlie Whiting's visit didn't go well.

USF1 no more (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81819)

These wankers burned up what appears to have been nearly enough money and time to actually grid a car without getting much done beyond promotional walk throughs and video of them making pieces of a car. :thumdown:

oc

[STD]

I never expected anything more out of them then what they did.

[Rogue Leader]

Racer is reporting it too.. And thats that:

http://www.racer.com/team-us-f1-shuts-down-operations/article/164920/

[ferrarigod]

did anyone actually think it would succeed?

[eiregosod]

Employees sent home, building closed, telephones disconnected. No talk of a year deferral today. Windsor and Anderson didn't bother to tell the employees themselves. Guessing Charlie Whiting's visit didn't go well.

USF1 no more (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81819)

These wankers burned up what appears to have been nearly enough money and time to actually grid a car without getting much done beyond promotional walk throughs and video of them making pieces of a car. :thumdown:

oc

Anderson and Windsor have to travel to Argentina to explain how they spent the $800k they got from Lopez.

[oddlycalm]

Anderson and Windsor have to travel to Argentina to explain how they spent the $800k they got from Lopez.

Customs and immigration should consider not letting them back in.:\

oc

[Rogue Leader]

Anderson and Windsor have to travel to Argentina to explain how they spent the $800k they got from Lopez.

they're coming back in a box

[Methanolandbrats]

they're coming back in a box

Nothing, absolutely nothing points out how stupid those guys are than going to Argentina.

[Indy]

Ya see, what happened is... :laugh:

[Methanolandbrats]

Ya see, what happened is... :laugh:


http://faculty.cua.edu/fischer/ComparativeLaw2002/bauersachs/ArgentinaMainWebPage.html#Criminal_Law

[Elmo T]

The only thing that keeps running through my head is the South Park episode where they were voting on a new mascot. Who gets to play which role? :rolleyes:

This group is not easily offended, but my better judgment wins and prevents me from directly posting the clip from the show. ;)

[Methanolandbrats]

The only thing that keeps running through my head is the South Park episode where they were voting on a new mascot. Who gets to play which role? :rolleyes:

This group is not easily offended, but my better judgment wins and prevents me from directly posting the clip from the show. ;)

Is it better than the evidence bag scene in the show where Butters is pimping? :rofl:

[JohnHKart]

sheesus these people are on crack!!!!!!!!! "The War is not lost"


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81820

[Rogue Leader]

sheesus these people are on crack!!!!!!!!! "The War is not lost"


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81820

Even if they show up with two cars and a hauler at the entry date I think the FIA will tell them to stuff it.

Considering Windsor's past commentary, I wish I could hear him comentating on all of this, from an outside persepctive LOL. I think he would even argee its a s****show...

[Elmo T]

Considering Windsor's past commentary, I wish I could hear him comentating on all of this, from an outside persepctive LOL. I think he would even argee its a s****show...

How will the Speed crew call it? Will they go PC or will Hobbs call it properly?

[STD]

It will be someone else's fault.
That darn media and fans calling them out when the weak dog and pony show didn't go over as planned, causing many big money unnamed potential sponsors to back out of a sure deal.


:gomer:

[High Sided]

from the lips of gone with the windsors replacement Will Buxton...

“F1 is a bit of a soap opera at times,” Buxton added. “As a journalist it’s what makes the sport such a joy to report on. There’s always something going on in the background, and I won’t shy away from doing my best to get to the heart of every issue."

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/speed-fox-team-for-2010-f1-new-grid-reporter-introduced//P1/

[Indy]

The only thing that keeps running through my head is the South Park episode where they were voting on a new mascot. Who gets to play which role? :rolleyes:

This group is not easily offended, but my better judgment wins and prevents me from directly posting the clip from the show. ;)

You mean the giant douche or the turd sandwich? :rofl:

[Elmo T]

You mean the giant douche or the turd sandwich? :rofl:

:thumbup:

[Gnam]

FIA makes it official: USF1 out, Stefan also out.

http://www.icars.sg/2010/12539/official-usf1-to-skip-2010-season-no-green-light-for-stefan-gp/

Why not let Stefan run? Seems silly to keep a team on the sidelines.

[Michaelhatesfans]

This group is not easily offended...

I take great offence to that.

[Steve99]

“F1 is a bit of a soap opera at times,” Buxton added.

At times? F1 is a soap opera that occasionally gets around to going racing.

[High Sided]

my best usf1 facebook rant...

"Carol is a whore!
she has probably been no where, knows anybody, and removed her picture standing in front of a car at an audi dealership. she's a nobody, the usf1 is a nobody, peter sucks andy dick, nobody cares, good bye USF1 ;^("

[Fio1]

USF1 should have had their car built by Swift. At least they could have shown potential sponsors some pretty cool looking race cars rather then just a couple Haas machines and an empty office with a poster of Jim Clark. To be honest, if they would have gotten out of the whole 'Nascar' country b.s and gone to an established constructor like Campos did they would have most likely been on the grid. Peter Windsor is a tool.

[eiregosod]

a fare and balanced luck at USF1:

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_feature_item.php?fes_art_id=40067

[Sean Malone]

Peter Windsor is a tool.

I'm hoping the guy disappears for good.:thumbup:

[High Sided]

caption time....

this photo was taken feb 6th. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4151444&id=223461686185

[eiregosod]

^ and here Jose, is the money pit.

thanks for the link, the other photos there are gold!!!

[nissan gtp]

caption time....

this photo was taken feb 6th. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4151444&id=223461686185

the President of Argentina is pretty hot :thumbup:

[Elmo T]

caption time....

this photo was taken feb 6th. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4151444&id=223461686185

Arm body language -

Crossed arms may thus indicate anxiety which is either driven by a lack of trust in the other person or an internal discomfort and sense of vulnerability

Ya think? :gomer:;)

[devilmaster]

the discussion page of USF1's facebook page kinda reminds me of the good ol days of forum wars when USOW still kinda mattered.... ahhh, good times. :rofl:

[grungex]

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs512.snc3/26900_1095702088633_1709011634_165937_8349837_n.jp g

"I hope it was strong enough to suck KA through it." :rofl:

[Gnam]

How will the Speed crew call it? Will they go PC or will Hobbs call it properly?

PC. Varsha certainly had the USF1 approved list of excuses:

F1 is hard.
USF1 attempted to design & build their own chassis.
None of the new teams were ready.
Peter Windsor can't talk about it.
Sponsorship is hard to find.
The mean 'ol FIA wouldn't grant a deferral to 2011.


Hobbs and Matchett were less understanding, I thought. As the journalist of the bunch, Varsha has a history of turning the conversation away from controversial subjects where opinions tend to dominate, so I'm not surprised he went easy on his friend and colleague.

[oddlycalm]

Peter Windsor can't talk about it.
No doubt. Probably because Chad Hurley and his lawyers would like an accounting of where his $20 million went not to mention the Argentine lad and his $800,000.[/QUOTE]

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