AAPL vs. GOOG vs. MSFT [Archive] - Page 7

cameraman

12-03-13, 02:14 PM

Not that I know. Even if I did, why no guest login love? Off to the Genius Bar shortly.

A firmware password prevents the computer from being booted from any source without typing in the EFI password first. You would have had to use a special program called Firmware Password Utility to do it. It isn't something people normally do.

You might try a NVRAM reset. If that is screwed up it can prevent the machine from booting properly.
Turn off the computer
Hit the power button then immediately hold down Command-Option-P-R and keep holding them down for two startup chimes.

See if that does anything.

Ankf00

12-03-13, 03:39 PM

Amazon planning on 30 minute delivery by drone.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/1/5164340/delivery-drones-are-coming-jeff-bezos-previews-half-hour-shipping

dominos on the bleeding edge, inspiring Bezos :gomer:

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/04/technology/innovation/dominos-pizza-drone/

cameraman

12-03-13, 04:34 PM

Anyone looking for a business opportunity? It turns out that there is currently no way to encrypt a Windows 7 or 8.x boot camp partition on a Mac running OS 10.9. Well you can but it breaks the encryption on the OS 10.9 side.

dando

12-03-13, 08:45 PM

A firmware password prevents the computer from being booted from any source without typing in the EFI password first. You would have had to use a special program called Firmware Password Utility to do it. It isn't something people normally do.

You might try a NVRAM reset. If that is screwed up it can prevent the machine from booting properly.
Turn off the computer
Hit the power button then immediately hold down Command-Option-P-R and keep holding them down for two startup chimes.

See if that does anything.

Genius Bar tech stumped as well. Patient in ICU for the next couple of days. :saywhat:

dando

12-04-13, 12:24 PM

UPS has Amazon evny.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/3/5169878/ups-is-researching-its-own-delivery-drones-to-compete-with-amazons

:saywhat:

dando

12-06-13, 08:44 AM

Patient home safe and sound. No idea what voodoo was performed by the Genius techs, but I suspect a cat sacrifice over the keyboard occurred. :gomer:

WickerBill

12-06-13, 09:17 AM

Work gave me a Surface Pro 2 yesterday to evaluate. Interesting for sure. It is definitely far better suited for a corporate environment than the iPad, but it also sucks in many ways. It is only slightly lighter than my daughter, and she's 17 years old. The keyboard is surprisingly good. The wake-up time is bad. Office works very well. It is thick and therefore somewhat unwieldy. It's immediate integration into a windows file sharing network is very nice. It is hard to find things you want to find in the OS. It plays almost any type of media out of the box.

KLang

12-06-13, 11:32 AM

It is hard to find things you want to find in the OS.

That is why many of us can't stand Windows 8. :yuck:

Is your employer considering these as a laptop replacement?

nrc

12-06-13, 12:17 PM

I had the misfortune of dealing with a Windows 8 machine recently. MS really should just gather up all their user interface designers and herd them off a cliff somewhere near Redmond.

I found a couple of utilities that made the thing bearable. Start8 (http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/) takes you directly to the desktop page at startup and presents a Windows 7-like Start menu. ModernMix (http://www.stardock.com/products/modernmix/) puts Modern UI applications into windows (instead of the default full screen). The combination reduces the suck by 50%. You still end up lost in Metro-land from time to time but it may reduce the rage factor enough to prevent you from smashing your new device.

Gnam

12-06-13, 01:10 PM

WickerBill

12-06-13, 01:16 PM

Doing two things: evaluating the OS (8.1) and trying to understand it enough to have a response when someone invariably claims they are needed and will save millions. I'm typing on it right now -- and FYI another positive is the USB drive which makes it far, far more versatile than the iPad -- and I can't yet imagine giving up my laptop for it. I use one of the largest "ultrabooks" out there (HP 9470) and it is lighter than the Surface, not to mention more powerful.

However, I could see some uses for it in the enterprise corporation if they can fix the weight, bulk, and tweak the interface a bit more. Problem is, the iPad is already in the enterprise and there's no putting that thin, light genie back in the bottle. As usual, MS is late to the game.

nissan gtp

12-06-13, 05:19 PM

I have spend the last 3 days trying to beat a Windows 8 system into some semblance of usability for my 80+ year old father in law. The 8.1 upgrade fails, and I've exhausted everything I've found online. Probably going to restore it and take back for a refund.

The Win 8 interface has some nice features, but the jarring and poorly thought out (not at all really) mish-mash of Metro and "classic" make almost every operation jarring and disappointing. Just about what I expect from Microsoft. :irked:

WickerBill

12-06-13, 07:24 PM

As long as they hang on to backward kernel compatibility, they're (and therefore we're) screwed. I can almost taste the legacy in this OS.

The last time MS truly made a new kernel was NT4. Everything else has been additive and tweaking.

Brand new out of the box, my MS tablet was using 31gb of space out of its 128. Insane.

cameraman

12-07-13, 02:55 AM

Wow that is nuts. The system folder on my OS 10.9 Powerbook is 6.31 GB and the Library folder is 7.67 GB and that is with all the additions from Adobe CS6 Production Premium (and Acrobat for an additional $89:irked:), MS Office and a host of others. Hell the entire applications folder is only 20.01 GB. Summed that would be 33.99 GB for the entire OS and all the applications of a full on computer vs 31 GB for the OS for a tablet.

KLang

12-07-13, 09:51 AM

Pretty sure that MS tablet has a full blown Windows 8 install on it.

Edit: Just checked my Windows 8.0 VM and it 19.1 GB. No office or anything else installed. Does the MS tablet come with a bunch of stuff pre-installed?

dando

12-07-13, 10:12 AM

IMO, there's a layer of crapware hogging the space as well as the bloated OS. Even on my S3, the Sammy and Virgin layers eat space on the 2GB of root RAM. :saywhat:

http://pcdecrapifier.com/

WickerBill

12-07-13, 12:18 PM

KLang and dando, yes absolutely. There are a couple of dozen things loaded that shouldn't be there, just like nearly any new Windows computer. My point is that I was thinking Microsoft, when distributing it's OWN hardware, wouldn't have to crap up the tablet like the Dells and HPs of the world do on their consumer Windows devices.

WRONG

Insomniac

12-13-13, 05:54 PM

Also, isn't everything installed so you can upgrade versions without a re-install?

WickerBill

12-13-13, 10:32 PM

Also, isn't everything installed so you can upgrade versions without a re-install?

Yes, fair point. Still ridiculous for a tablet, though, IMO

dando

12-14-13, 08:07 AM

Yes, fair point. Still ridiculous for a tablet, though, IMO

WB, I hear ya. Unfortunaltely tablets are like cell phones (or as I call them phablets). The mfg has a layer, and then the provider has a layer. M$FT is obviously loading apps to promote their 'products' like Bing, MSN, etc. Lord only knows how much space IE eats. They probably also have a few apps to tie into their gaming stuff. The only real solution is to root them and install a modified OS. In the case of Android, cyanogenmod is the best solution. Can't speak to M$FT tablets, tho. I personally wouldn't touch them with a 10' pole (like an iPad).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY9Z5OPzE78

SteveH

12-17-13, 06:13 PM

$38 tablet computer coming to U.S. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/technology/chi-38-tablet-computer-20131217,0,6585895.story)

KLang

01-13-14, 06:27 PM

Google to buy Nest Labs for 3.2 billion cash. Link (http://investor.google.com/releases/2014/0113.html)

I've not been tempted to buy one of the thermostats as I don't see much use for the learning function. Now Google will now when you are at home.

nrc

01-13-14, 06:59 PM

Now they've got a $130 smoke detector to go with their $250 thermostat. :saywhat:

I've got the Lowes IRIS thermostat which is really just centrally scheduled. Not as smart as the Nest is supposed to be but I'm not sure it really makes $250 worth of difference. I have 3 networked Smoke/CO detectors on our IRIS system for less than the cost of one Nest smoke detector. Overall I'm still happy with the IRIS system but their last update completely disconnected a lot of people and some folks are jumping ship.

Smart home was a big theme at CES 2014 with Samsung and some other big players jumping in.

SteveH

01-13-14, 07:49 PM

KLang

01-13-14, 08:04 PM

If you have an Android smartphone, they already know.

Nope, Apple knows where I am. ;)

I try to limit my Google exposure. I use them for search and that is it.

Tifosi24

01-13-14, 11:16 PM

If smart-metering takes hold, the utility is going to know when you are home also, along with Google or Apple.

Insomniac

01-15-14, 07:31 PM

Now they've got a $130 smoke detector to go with their $250 thermostat. :saywhat:

I get the thermostat, but the smoke detector? I have one in every room by code, and Elmo says to replace the detector every 10 years...

Gnam

01-16-14, 05:22 PM

the Internet of Things is coming to get you.

“Internet of Things –” the theme of last week’s Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas and yesterday’s announcement from Google GOOG +0.69% that it would buy its portfolio company Nest, which makes smart thermostats and smoke detectors, for $3.2 billion. The Internet of Things refers to what less hip people may call home automation or automation of the car, controlling devices like security systems through the Internet and wireless networks – things affecting things.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahcohen/2014/01/14/year-of-the-internet-of-things/

No, sir. No thank you. Death to the machines. Always plotting against me. Always watching. :p

SteveH

01-16-14, 11:34 PM

For The First Time, Hackers Have Used A Refrigerator To Attack Businesses

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/hackers-use-a-refridgerator-to-attack-businesses-2014-1#ixzz2qchGvhMU

SteveH

01-24-14, 10:59 AM

Internet of Things: Calamity in Making? (http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/blogs/internet-things-calamity-in-making-p-1609?rf=2014-01-24-eb&utm_source=SilverpopMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=enews-bis-20140124%20(1)&utm_content=&spMailingID=6046445&spUserID=NTQ5MzM0NTU4NDQS1&spJobID=362728862&spReportId=MzYyNzI4ODYyS0)

:eek:

Ankf00

01-26-14, 03:13 PM

I remember an NPR interview this summer with a couple of guys that hacked ford and toyota hybrids, and were able to take control of functionality.

DagoFast

01-29-14, 07:45 PM

And Goog sells off Motorola.

I know these guys are bajillionaires, but they remind me of kids with ADD, running from one shiny bauble to the next.

nrc

01-30-14, 12:23 AM

And Goog sells off Motorola.

I know these guys are bajillionaires, but they remind me of kids with ADD, running from one shiny bauble to the next.

Google got the Motorola patents which is really what they wanted. The interesting thing about this sale is the Lenovo continues to create the kind of broad product line that companies like IBM and HP are abandoning under the notion that you can't make money on hardware.

Ankf00

01-30-14, 09:48 AM

Google got the Motorola patents which is really what they wanted.

but what kind of economic return will the patents give them? Worth a $10B writedown?

The interesting thing about this sale is the Lenovo continues to create the kind of broad product line that companies like IBM and HP are abandoning under the notion that you can't make money on hardware.

easier to do when your opportunity cost is nowhere near that of IBM's or HP's

also, FB up 20% in pre-market :gomer:

cameraman

01-30-14, 10:52 AM

Ankf00

01-30-14, 05:50 PM

It's "only" up 15% right now. Seems profits reached $523 million.
Amazing how much money companies spend for that strip of ads on the right side of the screen. I don't even look at them much less click on them. I just don't get it.

it's not just the ad space, it's the analytics. the data value is huge to those who know how to crunch through it. graph theory and regression drive identifiable results.

TKGAngel

01-30-14, 08:42 PM

it's not just the ad space, it's the analytics. the data value is huge to those who know how to crunch through it. graph theory and regression drive identifiable results.

Ank's got it.

Paid search ads tend to have higher conversions that organic search results. Track that click through the backend analytics data and you can see who buys what where, what ads work, what targeting/tactics work, what pages of your site perform, etc. It's a data mine that you could very easily lose yourself in.

nrc

02-23-14, 09:37 PM

but what kind of economic return will the patents give them? Worth a $10B writedown?

Missed this at the time. Acquiring the patents is more a defensive move than a revenue generator. It's doubtful that it will save them $10 billion in the long run but we'll never really know how many lawsuits were or will be avoided.

Gnam

02-24-14, 12:54 AM

Yeah, you don't take Siberia because because it's worth anything. You take it so no one else can.

nrc

02-24-14, 01:35 AM

indyfan31

02-24-14, 11:02 AM

Ford is dumping their Microsoft based infotainment system for a Blackberry system, of all things. The dumping comes as no great surprise since Ford's initial quality surveys have suffered tremendously from problems with the Microsoft system.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/ford-dropping-microsoft-based-infotainment-to-adopt-blackberry-unit/

Interesting that Blackberry's QNX OS has found a niche in the automotive space.

SYNC has got to be the worst POS I've ever used. It's a constant fight between the driver and the car just to make a phone call or change the station on the radio. Everything about our little '09 Escape is, dare I say "refined", except for that awful interface. Although the switch to Blackberry just makes me think out of the frying pan into the fire.

cameraman

02-24-14, 11:09 AM

I really love my analog car.

cameraman

02-25-14, 12:22 PM

KLang

02-25-14, 12:51 PM

So I suppose that I should wait until Apple patches this particular cluster**** and then I should start changing passwords. Although I have yet to see a report where anyone has actually used this particular security crater in the wild.:shakehead:

I've read speculation (perhaps only semi-serious) that the NSA was behind it. :p

nrc

02-25-14, 02:26 PM

So I suppose that I should wait until Apple patches this particular cluster**** and then I should start changing passwords. Although I have yet to see a report where anyone has actually used this particular security crater in the wild.:shakehead:

Sounds like using Firefox or Chrome will at least avoid the problem for your web usage. There's not much you can do about other Apple services that use that SSL library though.

The surprising thing is that this really should have been caught by just about any reasonable software QA process.

KLang

02-25-14, 02:56 PM

10.9.2 is out now to fix the SSL problem.

Ankf00

02-25-14, 06:58 PM

FB @ $70 after a defensive acquisition which still created value.

pfc_m_drake

02-25-14, 09:51 PM

I've been wrong before (many times) but that doesn't seem sustainable.

Gnam

03-28-14, 01:42 AM

Interesting chart, but it seems to be missing several purchases.

http://i57.tinypic.com/j75d3o.png

nrc

04-04-14, 01:15 AM

Now they've got a $130 smoke detector to go with their $250 thermostat. :saywhat:

Nest has had to disable one of the features that they touted for pricey smoke detectors. Seems that the ability to silence the detector by waving your hand may delay activation of the alarm in the event of a real fire.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2140040/nest-tells-users-to-disable-key-feature-of-protect-smoke-alarm.html

nrc

04-08-14, 02:05 PM

Anyone still running Windows XP? Times up.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2140840/windows-xp-chronicle-of-a-death-foretold.html

If you don't have a specific application that requires Windows then consider the alternatives.

http://www.zdnet.com/five-operating-system-alternatives-to-windows-8-and-xp-7000013765/

Gnam

04-08-14, 02:24 PM

from the XP article:

Some had assumed that given the massive Windows XP installed base, Microsoft would budge and extend its support another year or two, but the vendor has stood firm, saying that the OS is simply too old and vulnerable to today’s security threats, for which it wasn’t architected.

Is 'architected' a word?

I have an old desktop at home with XP on it, but it is slowly decaying back into sand anyway. Killing XP just makes it easier to finally pull the plug.

cameraman

04-08-14, 02:36 PM

I've got a bazillion dollar robot running on XP and so it shall remain forevermore.
Just unplugged the ethernet cable as it really doesn't need access to anything.

SteveH

04-08-14, 03:44 PM

From a banking perspective:
Windows XP Goes Dark; Will Hackers Be Lurking? (http://www.americanbanker.com/issues/179_68/windows-xp-goes-dark-will-hackers-be-lurking-1066755-1.html?utm_campaign=ab%20magazine%20bulletin-apr%208%202014&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter)

Also very widely used in ATMs
Windows XP support ends today. But it’s still used by everywhere from governments to ATMs. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/04/08/windows-xp-support-ends-today-but-its-still-used-by-everywhere-from-governments-to-atms/)

Those ATMs by and large are not exposed to the public internet. They either are connected via dedicated data circuits, virtual private networks or dial up. If they could be hacked, I would have thought they would have been by now, support of XP or not.

nrc

06-05-14, 01:13 PM

dando

06-05-14, 01:18 PM

v=HHoNQrxG_8M&feature=kp
Amazon is said to be introducing a phone on June 18th. The gimmick appears to be some kind of 3D interface. I'm happy with my Kindle Fire as a reader and web browser but the app restrictions are a pain. I don't think I'd want an Amazon phone if it's going to have a crippled version of Android on it the way the Fire does.

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/ready-kindle-phone-amazon-video-teases-new-device/

http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-makes-next-product-launch-a-public-spectacle/

Yes, but can Gary Busey talk to it? :gomer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHoNQrxG_8M&feature=kp

pfc_m_drake

06-05-14, 03:58 PM

Amazon is said to be introducing a phone on June 18th. The gimmick appears to be some kind of 3D interface. I'm happy with my Kindle Fire as a reader and web browser but the app restrictions are a pain. I don't think I'd want an Amazon phone if it's going to have a crippled version of Android on it the way the Fire does.

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/ready-kindle-phone-amazon-video-teases-new-device/
RE: Your Kindle Fire - I know I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, but you can root and install Cyanogenmod.
Hopefully if this 'phone' is also restricted the same will be true...

cameraman

06-08-14, 03:32 AM

Tim Cook touring the new Apple Mac Pro assembly plant in Texas. Note the Apple monitors running Windows XP....

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpdPFYuCMAARBhX.jpg

Cook tweeted the photo and it has gone semi-viral once someone noticed. :rofl:

It really isn't surprising as there is a ton of testing and manufacturing software written for XP that has no OSX counterpart. Actually there is a hell of a lot of that XP software with no Windows 7 or 8 counterpart:\

indyfan31

06-09-14, 11:13 AM

Amazon is said to be introducing a phone on June 18th. The gimmick appears to be some kind of 3D interface. I'm happy with my Kindle Fire as a reader and web browser but the app restrictions are a pain. I don't think I'd want an Amazon phone if it's going to have a crippled version of Android on it the way the Fire does.

http://www.geekwire.com/2014/ready-kindle-phone-amazon-video-teases-new-device/

Does this mean they'll stop embedding their stupid amazon app in Android phones?

nrc

06-19-14, 10:13 AM

The two big gimmicks for the Amazon phone are "dynamic perspective" (basically a 3D interface) and "Firefly". Firefly looks pretty cool - take a picture of something and it will identify the object and search for it or find searchable text, phone numbers, or URLs and link them. It would be better if it were Rufus T. Firefly and it made wisecracks about the item, but anyway it sounds pretty neat.

Aside from those two things it sounds like a Kindle Fire with a phone built in. It's locked into the Amazon store which would make it frustrating and disappointing when it comes to apps. It's also AT&T only which would probably make it frustrating and disappointing as a phone.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EOE0WKQ

KLang

06-19-14, 12:01 PM

I've actually been mostly pleased with AT&T over the years.

I don't see anything compelling enough in the Fire Phone to make me consider changing from Apple. Tough market to try to break into. I suppose their main target audience might be Kindle Fire owners but I don't think Amazon has released actual sales figures so I don't know how big that market might be. I am a happy Kindle e-reader owner but I've not been tempted to acquire their other devices.

SteveH

06-19-14, 12:18 PM

I'm glad to see a deep pocket competitor join the market. 3D doesn't excite me so much now, maybe after the technology matures. Firefly does. I suspect we'll soon competitors with similar features. We all win.

Insomniac

06-19-14, 01:30 PM

I was surprised that it's just like any other phone in terms of price. Subsidized and normal monthly charges. The only add-ons are really 1 year of Prime and unlimited photo storage. At least for me, that's not enough to get locked in with Amazon.

cameraman

09-09-14, 04:32 PM

Grrrrr. Am I the only person on the planet who wants a phone that will actually fit in a pocket?

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Screen-Shot-2014-09-09-at-12.46.51-PM-980x600.jpg

DagoFast

09-09-14, 05:20 PM

"If you like your iPhone 3GS, you can keep it." ;)

JoeBob

09-09-14, 05:38 PM

I wish they had included the iPad Mini and iPad Air in that picture. They will be selling essentially the same device in 5 sizes. :eek:

KLang

09-09-14, 06:35 PM

I'll be getting a 6, it's been two years with my 5 and I'm due. I sure hope they don't grow anymore, I would have preferred they stay with the size of the 5. I rarely use the phone for video, that's what an iPad or TV are for.

Gnam

09-09-14, 08:30 PM

Grrrrr. Am I the only person on the planet who wants a phone that will actually fit in a pocket?
You need the pocket sized ihand. :gomer:

http://www.yankodesign.com/2010/10/07/talking-with-a-palm/

http://s28.postimg.org/84fzlgqpp/next_g.jpg

JoeBob

09-09-14, 10:55 PM

Here's the size comparison I was looking for:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxHjuRmCIAEsiqv.jpg:large

chop456

09-10-14, 01:36 AM

Grrrrr. Am I the only person on the planet who wants a phone that will actually fit in a pocket?

Yes. :D

I thought my HTC EVO was too big when I got it. Got used to it in about 2 hours, now I find the wife and daughter's i5s annoyingly small to the point of being unusable. The new (small) 6 looks just about right. I think the plus may be too big.

nrc

09-10-14, 03:04 AM

The 4.3" screen of my Droid Razr M is about as much as I would want to carry around. I like Pop Tarts but I rarely carry them around for long.

chop456

09-10-14, 04:33 AM

The fruit-flavored ones age quite nicely. Much better than the cinnamon/sugar-type varieties.

Andrew Longman

09-11-14, 08:24 AM

Grrrrr. Am I the only person on the planet who wants a phone that will actually fit in a pocket?You are not alone. Once I add an Otter case because the phone as made won't survive long in my daily life, my i5 is plenty large enough.

dando

09-24-14, 08:43 PM

#bendgate LMAO.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/personal/2014/09/24/apple-woes-after-splashy-event-ios-8-bendable-iphone-6/16164969/

cameraman

09-24-14, 08:45 PM

Oh this is not good....

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dando

09-24-14, 08:55 PM

Add that to the numerous reports I've read from friends updating to iOS8 causing slowness, crashes, etc. #epicfail

dando

09-24-14, 09:01 PM

Did I see post comparing a Pop Tart to an iPhone 6? :laugh:

Kiwifan

09-24-14, 09:09 PM

Being cheap I got an iPhone 5S 64GB in Anchorage = no tax for $699. Score!

Found the 6 to be too big and too thin. Thanks Cameraman for proving me right, lol.

gerhard911

09-24-14, 09:14 PM

If you paid $699 :saywhat: for a phone, you're either: a) NOT cheap or b) really, really, clueless.

pfc_m_drake

09-24-14, 09:21 PM

If you paid $699 :saywhat: for a phone, you're either: a) NOT cheap or b) really, really, clueless.Keep in mind that's probably the no-contract unsubsidized price (particularly since he's not from around these parts :p )

swift

09-24-14, 11:10 PM

Add that to the numerous reports I've read from friends updating to iOS8 causing slowness, crashes, etc. #epicfail

Were they charging their phones using iOS8's wave (http://www.cbc.ca/newsblogs/yourcommunity/2014/09/4chan-prank-gets-apple-users-to-microwave-their-iphones.html) function?

http://i.embed.ly/1/display/resize?key=1e6a1a1efdb011df84894040444cdc60&url=http%3A%2F%2Fs3-ec.buzzfed.com%2Fstatic%2F2014-09%2F19%2F11%2Fenhanced%2Fwebdr05%2Fenhanced-1946-1411140082-14.png
:gomer:

indyfan31

09-25-14, 09:48 AM

(oops, never mind)

Kiwifan

09-25-14, 10:29 AM

Keep in mind that's probably the no-contract unsubsidized price (particularly since he's not from around these parts :p )

Thank you. :thumbup:
Purchased one for my Grocery Manager before I left New Zealand, same model= $NZ1300.

Llama on. :D

cameraman

09-25-14, 10:50 AM

I just can't comprehend how a company could spend cubic dollars to design a fancy new ultra thin phone and not test it to see if it can be easily bent. That is just beyond stupid.

Really sad thing is the folks at Mophie haven't come out with a 6/6+ version of this:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii35/Cynops/Mophie_Juice_Pack_Plus.jpg

Which more than doubles the battery life and also does an admirable job of armoring the phone.

Insomniac

09-25-14, 12:21 PM

I just can't comprehend how a company could spend cubic dollars to design a fancy new ultra thin phone and not test it to see if it can be easily bent. That is just beyond stupid.

You mean the same way they didn't test antenna attenuation? :D

SteveH

09-25-14, 12:35 PM

nrc

09-25-14, 01:03 PM

My son received his new 6 last Friday. It is surprisingly thin, but to me it's too slick. There is no grip on the sides, would be way to easy for it to slide out of your hand. It doesn't resemble previous iPhones, very unApplelike in a sense.

I used to think the thinner the better but even my Razr M gets a little difficult to use one handed. And of course the penchant for making these things out of smooth metal or plastic doesn't help.

cameraman

09-25-14, 01:22 PM

And you would be daft to upgrade an iPhone 5/5s to iOS 8 until 8.0.3 comes out....

Apple has now posted procedures to help iPhone 6 owners recover from the bad iOS 8.0.1 update:

Loss of cellular service or ability to use Touch ID after updating to iOS 8.0.1 on iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus

We have a workaround for you if you have an iPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus and you lost cellular service and Touch ID functionality today after updating to iOS 8.0.1. You can reinstall iOS 8 through iTunes by following the instructions below. We are also preparing iOS 8.0.2 with a fix for the issue, and will release it as soon as it's ready in the next few days.

:shakehead:

Insomniac

09-25-14, 02:06 PM

This is where being so secretive hurts. They have so many fanboys, they could easily take advantage of them for a public beta/test. Yes developers get access early, but they're focused on Apps more than day-to-day usage. And most don't develop on their personal devices. Also, if you do find problems, they can only be discussed in the Apple community where the community is highly protective of Apple.

Tifosi24

09-25-14, 06:05 PM

I used to think the thinner the better but even my Razr M gets a little difficult to use one handed. And of course the penchant for making these things out of smooth metal or plastic doesn't help.

I just got a Galaxy S4 ($240 on sale from TMobile) and it is dangerous to handle without a case. I think the designs are intentional so they can make large profits on accessories.

Fanbois prove that people will do anything to have the newest thing out there.

KLang

09-25-14, 07:00 PM

My son received his new 6 last Friday. It is surprisingly thin, but to me it's too slick. There is no grip on the sides, would be way to easy for it to slide out of your hand. It doesn't resemble previous iPhones, very unApplelike in a sense.

Most people put theirs in a case. I rarely see a naked iPhone out in the wild. ;)

Got my 6 today. Nice and thin and light and I do like it but THIS IS BIG ENOUGH. No more.

09-25-14, 07:29 PM

Any phone you get that has a screen edge-to-edge, Otterbox the sonofagun ASAP.

Had a new S3 for approx 2 days, dropped it the only way possible to spiderweb the screen (translation: it hit the ground ;) ).

KLang

09-26-14, 11:15 PM

Consumer reports weighs in on bendgate. (http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/26/consumer-reports-iphone6-bend-test/)

A little actual scientific testing instead of youtube crap on the internet.

dando

09-27-14, 02:27 PM

In other news, Ballmer bans Apple products from the Clippers. :laugh:

http://blog.seattlepi.com/sonics/2014/09/26/steve-ballmer-banning-l-a-clippers-from-apple-products/

Insomniac

09-27-14, 10:00 PM

You mean the same way they didn't test antenna attenuation? :D

In the same vane, they have let some press in to their labs to see how they test products for durability.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/25/6845611/inside-apples-iphone-6-torture-building

I don't expect an Apple mea culpa on this one.

KLang

09-28-14, 12:16 AM

I just can't comprehend how a company could spend cubic dollars to design a fancy new ultra thin phone and not test it to see if it can be easily bent. That is just beyond stupid.

You were saying..... :p:rolleyes:

SteveH

09-30-14, 03:48 PM

People are now bending iPhones in Apple Stores (http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/30/technology/mobile/bendgate-apple-store/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

:rolleyes:

dando

09-30-14, 05:41 PM

People are now bending iPhones in Apple Stores (http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/30/technology/mobile/bendgate-apple-store/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

:rolleyes:

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/curious-customers-are-conducting-iphone-6-plus-bend-98810220884.html

WickerBill

09-30-14, 08:16 PM

Microsoft announced the next version of Windows today.

Some key points about the next version of the Windows desktop OS, which for no apparent or explained reason, is not Windows 9, but rather Windows 10.

· It will ship in 2015, probably 2H
· It is the beginning of a campaign for “One Windows”, which includes mobile, desktop, and IoT
· Win10 may also be the next Windows Server, although there’s some uncertainty here
· The start menu is (completely) back
· Touch is somewhat de-emphasized but there will be no “non-touch Windows 10” version as rumored
· You can CTRL-V into a command prompt. This seems to be trivial; but what it is, for sure, is a decade late
· They have an OS X “Spaces” concept, which they are calling multiple desktops, but the press is calling “virtual desktops” – FANTASTIC, that name won’t cause any issues
· Windows Store apps will run inside standard windows instead of full screen (except on Mobile)
· A preview version will be available tomorrow, but MS cautions it is super-duper pre-release quality

No announcements on price. No announcements on licensing. Hopefully, those things come in the near future… and hopefully, they’re positive.