The Foyt Futility Watch -- Watkins Glen

[pchall]

Princess Sparklepony Permapout brings her new found rubbin' and racin' skills to the Camping World Grand Pricks at The Glen.

Hey, I'm pretty busy this weekend with my son starting his summer vacation time here today. All your help with this thread will be appreciated.

[TKGAngel]

My dad won free GA tickets for this weekend at the Glen. I know I should be doing my duty for god & futility and going, but it's not going to happen. I can only make one day, and the idea of schlepping down the 90 on a holiday weekend makes me stabby. Not to mention the allowable items policy at the Glen makes any Champcar policies into the next coming of Sodom & Gomorrah.

[NismoZ]

Foytility, Futility, Leaguetility, :tony:tility...gettin' pretty late in the game. It's really too easy to find the "tility" these days. Here's what I'm gonna do. If I see any UNtility I'm going to point it out. If P-pony outqualifies or out races Simona? I'm going to point it out. If ANYbody worms their way into a starting grid or race result ahead of a Team Chip, Penske or Andretti, I'll call that a good thing. If nobody gets hurt by a stupid NASCRAPESQUE move I'll give it a :thumbup: If the safety team does a great job in a serious situation, I'll applaud. If I see expertise, class or skill, even in the vintage racers these people are forced to use, I'll identify it. If you don't hear from me again on this topic...I guess you'll know what DIDN'T happen:\

[cameraman]

Forum killer.

[TravelGal]

Gee Nizmo, we're going to miss your posts. :gomer:

[Tim]

I try to care but it just doesn't work. I actually watched the whole Long Beach race but all it did was make me sad.

[emjaya]

Princess Sparklepony Permapout brings her new found rubbin' and racin' skills to the Camping World Grand Pricks at The Glen.

Hey, I'm pretty busy this weekend with my son starting his summer vacation time here today. All your help with this thread will be appreciated.

Is this ok? :gomer:



Race 9 of 17

Race - Camping World Grand Prix at the Glen

Location - Watkins Glen International, Watkins Glen, NY

Date - Sunday, July 4th

Time & TV Schedule - 3:30PM Eastern -Green Flag -3:35PM Eastern -ABC

Course Type - 3.4 Mile Road Course

Distance - 60 Laps / 204 Miles

Practice Sessions - Friday, July 2nd - 3:30-4:30PM Eastern, Saturday, July 3rd -9:05AM -10:05AM Eastern, Warm-Up Session - Sunday, July 4th - 10:15AM -10:45AM Eastern

Qualifications - Saturday, July 3rd - 1:15PM -2:45PM Eastern

2009 Pole Sitter - Ryan Briscoe - IRL Track Record 2009 - Lap Time: 1:28.5970 / 136.935 mph

2009 Winner - Justin Wilson

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/DanicaRules/watkinsgleninternational.gif

Entry List.

Car # & Driver / Car Name / Team

#2 Raphael Matos / HP Luczo Dragon / DeFerran Dragon Racing
#3 Helio Castroneves / Team Penske / Team Penske
#4 Dan Wheldon / National Guard Panther Racing / Panther Racing
#5 Takuma Sato / Lotus-KV Racing Technology / KV Racing Technology
#6 Ryan Briscoe / Team Penske / Team Penske
#7 Danica Patrick / Team GoDaddy.com / Andretti Autosport
#8 EJ Viso / PDVSA-Jet Aviation-KVRT / KV Racing Technology
#9 Scott Dixon / Target Chip Ganassi Racing / Target Chip Ganassi Racing
#10 Dario Franchitti / Target Chip Ganassi Racing / Target Chip Ganassi Racing
#11 Tony Kanaan / Team 7-Eleven / Andretti Autosport
#12 Will Power / Verizon Team Penske / Verizon Team Penske
#14 Vitor Meira / ABC Supply Co. AJ Foyt Racing / AJ Foyt Enterprises
#18 Milka Duno / CITGO / Dale Coyne Racing
#19 Alex Lloyd / Boy Scouts of America / Dale Coyne Racing
#22 Justin Wilson / Team Z-Line Designs-DRR / Dreyer & Reinbold Racing
#24 Paul Tracy / Honda Indy Toronto-DRR / Dreyer & Reinbold Racing
#26 Marco Andretti / Team Venom Energy / Andretti Autosport
#27 Adam Carroll / Team Boost Mobile / Andretti Autosport
#32 Mario Moraes / KV Racing Technology / KV Racing Technology
#34 Mario Romancini / Conquest Racing / Conquest Racing
#36 Bertrand Baguette / Conquest Racing-RACB / Conquest Racing
#37 Ryan Hunter-Reay / Team IZOD / Andretti Autosport
#77 Alex Tagliani / FAZZT Race Team / FAZZT Race Team
#78 Simona De Silvestro / Team Stargate Worlds-HVM / HVM Racing
#06 Hideki Mutoh / Formula Dream-Panasonic / Neman Haas Racing

[emjaya]

First Practise:

Rank / Car# & Driver / Difference / Lap Time / Speed

1. #6 Ryan Briscoe / - / 1:31.4142 / 132.714
2. #3 Helio Castroneves / .0831 / 1:31.4974 / 132.594
3. #9 Scott Dixon / .2638 / 1:31.6781 / 132.333
4. #4 Dan Wheldon / .3687 / 1:31.7830 / 132.181
5. #22 Justin Wilson / .4485 / 1:31.8627 / 132.067
6. #12 Will Power / .5174 / 1:31.9317 / 131.968
7. #10 Dario Franchitti / .5753 / 1:31.9895 / 131.884
8. #2 Raphael Matos / .7474 / 1:32.1616 / 131.638
9. #11 Tony Kanaan / .7734 / 1:32.1877 / 131.601
10. #32 Mario Moraes / .8426 / 1:32.2569 / 131.502
11. #26 Marco Andretti / 1.1500 / 1:32.5643 / 131.066
12. #37 Ryan Hunter-Reay / 1.6144 / 1:33.0287 / 130.411
13. #06 Hideki Mutoh / 1.6518 / 1:33.0661 / 130.359
14. #8 EJ Viso / 1.7662 / 1:33.1804 / 130.199
15. #34 Mario Romancini / 1.8104 / 1:33.2247 / 130.137
16. #24 Paul Tracy / 1.8843 / 1:33.2985 / 130.034
17. #7 Danica Patrick / 1.9124 / 1:33.3267 / 129.995
18. #5 Takuma Sato / 1.9256 / 1:33.3399 / 129.977
19. #78 Simona De Silvestro / 2.1031 / 1:33.5173 / 129.730
20. #19 Alex Lloyd / 2.2741 / 1:33.6584 / 129.493
21. #77 Alex Tagliani / 2.7903 / 1:34.2046 / 128.784
22. #14 Vitor Meira 2.8295 / 1:34.2437 / 128.730
23. #27 Adam Carroll / 2.9885 / 1:34.4028 / 128.513
24. #36 Bertrand Baguette / 4.3599 / 1:35.7741 / 126.673
525. #18 Milka Duno /.8697 / 1:37.2840 / 124.707

[G.]

SP Car Driver Hometown Car Name Entrant Time Speed
1 12 Will Power Team Penske 1:29.3164 135.832
2 3 Helio Castroneves Team Penske 1:29.4609 135.612
3 6 Ryan Briscoe Team Penske 1:29.9346 134.898
4 10 Dario Franchitti Target Chip Ganassi Racing 1:29.9601 134.860
5 5 Takuma Sato ( R ) KV Racing Technology 1:30.1410 134.589
6 22 Justin Wilson Dreyer & Reinbold Racing 1:30.2667 134.402
7 9 Scott Dixon Target Chip Ganassi Racing 1:30.1389 134.592
8 26 Marco Andretti Andretti Autosport 1:30.2042 134.495
9 32 Mario Moraes KV Racing Technology 1:30.2644 134.405
10 27 Adam Carroll ( R ) Andretti Autosport 1:30.4886 134.072
11 2 Raphael Matos de Ferran Dragon Racing 1:30.5276 134.014
12 24 Paul TracyDreyer & Reinbold Racing 1:30.8414 133.551
13 11 Tony Kanaan Andretti Autosport 1:31.1934 133.036
14 06 Hideki Mutoh Newman/Haas Racing 1:31.1723 133.067
15 78 Simona de Silvestro ( R ) HVM Racing 1:31.3268 132.842
16 37 Ryan Hunter-Reay Andretti Autosport 1:31.4333 132.687
17 14 Vitor Meira Foyt Enterprises 1:31.4088 132.722
18 34 Mario Romancini ( R ) Conquest Racing 1:31.5797 132.475
19 77 Alex Tagliani FATAZZ Race Team 1:31.5218 132.559
20 4 Dan Wheldon Panther Racing 1:31.5988 132.447
21 7 Danica Patrick Sparklepony Autosport 31 5329 132 543
22 19 Alex Lloyd ( R ) Dale Coyne Racing 1:33.9832 129.087
23 36 Bertrand Baguette ( R ) Conquest Racing 1:32.1888 131.600
24 18 Milka Duno Dale Coyne Racing 1:40.4911 120.727
25 8 E.J. Viso KV Racing Technology No Time No Speed

PEAK Perfomance Pole Award Winner ($10,000): Will Power

Isn't $10k for Pole kinda lame? I really don't know.

I'd watch this, since it's on TV, but I don't think my wife will let me. Something about Holidays, family, that sort of crap. :D

[Trevor Longman]

Anyone else catch this? Ouch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwUSkv3hZew

[Indy]

Anyone else catch this? Ouch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwUSkv3hZew

Clearly an unsafe spot on the track. That transition to grass is too severe. ISC fail.

[Andrew Longman]

Clearly an unsafe spot on the track. That transition to grass is too severe. ISC fail.

Maybe, but it seems he didn't even try to turn. I've seen countless cars go off there with different results. Seriously wadded up the car.

[pchall]

Maybe, but it seems he didn't even try to turn. I've seen countless cars go off there with different results. Seriously wadded up the car.

I've watched that clip a few times and it still doesn't make sense. Viso really doesn't seem to turn at all and goes straight into the guard rail. What did he manage to break jumping in the grass?

[Andrew Longman]

What did he manage to break jumping in the grass?Dunno, but he must have broken something when he launched out of the grass. Lucky to be unhurt

This is funny though. "I go out"

BNKBcqP9nuM

[SteveH]

Anyone else catch this? Ouch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwUSkv3hZew

from AR1


Word is what caused EJ Viso to crash in the morning practice was the fact that he bent the skid block on the car when he transitioned from the asphalt runoff area to the grass - the skid block folded under and got his car airborne long enough that Viso was along for the ride and he whacked the Armco clear on the other side of the track. The car was done for the weekend and the KV Racing team did not have time to finish preparing the backup car so he set no time in afternoon qualifying, and hence will start dead last on Sunday.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-open-wheel-notebook-watkins-glen/


E.J. Viso knocked all four corners off his car during Saturday practice, destroying his car and missed qualifying. It was the fifth time this year that KV Racing has totaled a car and there have been 17 accidents involving Mario Moraes, Sato and Viso, who was coming off a career-best third at Iowa…….

Someone's going to think its cheaper to float a racing series than own a team in the IRL.

[TKGAngel]

The Park Milka movement is gaining momentum. From what I've read, 7 drivers complained about her after yesterday's session, and her qualifying speed was slower than all the Indy Cars AND all but one of the Lights cars. Is the Citgo check really worth all the heinous she could cause?

[Andrew Longman]

...her qualifying speed was slower than all the Indy Cars AND all but one of the Lights cars.

Maybe Citgo should just sponsor the pace car... or jet dryers.

[Andrew Longman]

Someone's going to think its cheaper to float a racing series than own a team in the IRL.:rofl::laugh::rofl:

[stroker]

Someone's going to think its cheaper to float a racing series than own a team in the IRL.

Beat me to it.

[dando]

Sim Sim makes a mistake and owns up to it. Go figger. :thumbup:

Oh, and $10 Permapout was smiling a bit when SIm Sim wrecked right in front of her. :\

-Kevin

[opinionated ow]

Sim Sim makes a mistake and owns up to it. Go figger. :thumbup:
That's because my girl is classy

Oh, and $10 Permapout was smiling a bit when SIm Sim wrecked right in front of her. :\

-Kevin
Thats because Danicant is a petulant bitch whereas super simsim is just good and cool...

[Andrew Longman]

Sim Sim makes a mistake and owns up to it. Go figger

Yes, but that is becoming too common. Gotta finish a race.

[Duroc]

So apparently there was an IRL race this weekend. It's the old metaphysical conundrum. If no one attended or watched the broadcast did it happen?

A couple of things I stumbled on by following the youtube links: I did not know JD McDuffie was run through either by a fence post or steering column. JFC. And a Jo Bonnier documentary (http://www.cloudsouth.co.nz/films/sftgr/) that looks interesting.

Anyway, Rodeo Randy's continued pumping of the sunshine (http://sports.yahoo.com/irl/news;_ylt=AtYS24RnneRNNN2IgkUcOPzRv7YF?slug=ap-irlnotebook) after crossing the event horizon read like the ravings of a mad man.

[nrc]

We lost 15 to 20 million fans in the 1990s. We have to find a way to get them back.”

Better start working on a Wayback machine, Randy.

[Andrew Longman]

We lost 15 to 20 million fans in the 1990s.

How much was that per TG "checkbook" And were is my check?

From TV pictures NOONE was at the race. I would have gone in a heartbeat years ago(or today) if it had been a CART race. But now I DVR and sleep through it.

[dando]

From TV pictures NOONE was at the race.

I wasn't sure if there was more metal showing in the stands or the Armco along the track. :gomer: :shakehead

-Kevin

[SteveH]

We lost 15 to 20 million fans in the 1990s. We have to find a way to get them back.”

What happened?

[dando]

What happened?

Someone passed gas. :gomer:

-Kevin

[TKGAngel]

The Buffalo Snooze says that there was "modest attendance" with more people sitting on the berms along the track than in the stands themselves.

I call BS. At some places, it looked like you could have shot a cannon through the place and not hit anyone.

[nissan gtp]

Stands ? Only Nastards sit in the stands for a road race. I was there, and attendance was a little better than last year, with noticeably more campers. Saw a lot of old sports car shirts. Mindycar sure ain't no CART (or even Champcar), but the Glen rocks.

[oddlycalm]

We lost 15 to 20 million fans in the 1990s
That's quite a benign characterization. It's not that the fans mysteriously lost their sense of direction and wandered away. They were driven off by someone consumed by a need for personal control and a total disregard for the survival of the racing. He told us he brought a hammer to work every day and he did. He swung the hammer at CART, he swung the hammer at the fans, the media, promoters, his family and his finally at his own testicles. Problem is, wrecking things is a lot easier than building things....

Sorry Randy, I don't think adding yet another race in Vegas is going to fix what TG broke. If the rumors are true and you are adding multiple chassis and engines for the future then it's a baby step in the right direction. You might want to also make sure that your handful of US drivers have race seats for the full season.

oc

[Indy]

$600 million for 20 million fans. That's only $30 per fan. I told you Tony was a genius. :gomer:

[BigIrlFan]

$600 million for 20 million fans. That's only $30 per fan. I told you Tony was a genius. :gomer:

TAHnk you very much. YOU guys are finelly starting to see the lites. IF I would of asked you in 1995 if you would have left the psort for thrity bucks you would have laughed at me. If I would have aksed if you would leave the sport for $50 bucks you would have laughed at me. HElls BElles some of you might hhave holded out up to to a hundedred. BUt $30? Say waht you want but to me that says TOney Gorge drove a damed good bargain. THe sisters should be right proud of him. JUSt amagione where the sport woud be today without him? IT boggels the mind.

BIf#

[NismoZ]

There isn't a race that goes by when I don't think the exact same thing.:(

[opinionated ow]

Because I CBF to research it even though it involves super sim sim...what happened to her?

[NismoZ]

Spun on her own coming up out of 7 (?) Got on it too soon, not the only one to do it there. PT also. She totally owned up to it...another "rookie mistake." Wonder what PT's excuse is?

[Wheel-Nut]

This thread is not complete without the results of the race. ;)

[dando]

This thread is not complete without the results of the race. ;)

Dork. :p


Race Results
POS DRIVER CAR MANUFACTURER LAPS MONEY START LED PTS BONUS PENALTY
1 Will Power 12 Honda 60 1 45 53 3 0
2 Ryan Briscoe 6 Honda 60 3 4 40 0 0
3 Dario Franchitti 10 Honda 60 4 1 35 0 0
4 Raphael Matos 2 Honda 60 11 0 32 0 0
5 Mario Moraes 32 Honda 60 9 0 30 0 0
6 Dan Wheldon 4 Honda 60 20 0 28 0 0
7 Ryan Hunter-Reay 37 Honda 60 16 0 26 0 0
8 Scott Dixon 9 Honda 60 7 10 24 0 0
9 Helio Castroneves 3 Honda 60 2 0 22 0 0
10 Justin Wilson 22 Honda 60 6 0 20 0 0
11 E.J. Viso 8 Honda 60 25 0 19 0 0
12 Hideki Mutoh 06 Honda 60 14 0 18 0 0
13 Marco Andretti 26 Honda 60 8 0 17 0 0
14 Paul Tracy 24 Honda 60 12 0 16 0 0
15 Takuma Sato 5 Honda 60 5 0 15 0 0
16 Adam Carroll 27 Honda 60 10 0 14 0 0
17 Alex Tagliani 77 Honda 60 19 0 13 0 0
18 Bertrand Baguette 36 Honda 60 23 0 12 0 0
19 Vitor Meira 14 Honda 60 17 0 12 0 0
20 Danica Patrick 7 Honda 60 21 0 12 0 0
21 Tony Kanaan 11 Honda 60 13 0 12 0 0
22 Mario Romancini 34 Honda 59 18 0 12 0 0
23 Milka Duno 18 Honda 57 24 0 12 0 0
24 Simona De Silvestro 78 Honda 38 15 0 12 0 0
25 Alex Lloyd 19 Honda 22 22 0 10 0 0
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Check out that all but two sleds still running were on the lead lap. :eek:

-Kevin

[Steve99]

Anyway, Rodeo Randy's continued pumping of the sunshine (http://sports.yahoo.com/irl/news;_ylt=AtYS24RnneRNNN2IgkUcOPzRv7YF?slug=ap-irlnotebook) after crossing the event horizon read like the ravings of a mad man.
I don't think Randy has a clue.


“It has to be something that’s a win-win for them as well as a win-win for us,” Bernard said.
I also don't think he understands the meaning of "win-win". :rofl:

So, it looks like the Princess fought her way to top-20 finish (barely). :thumbup:

[SurfaceUnits]

according to some incider, this was the last time the leeg will stink up the place,,,,off the sched 4eva

[NismoZ]

UNinvited, I'm sure.

[Chief]

Naaah, an "incider" mentioned the IRL was begged to stay. IRL did the dumping, just like all the other 18 or so tracks they were kicked out of....err, dumped.