So does Bernard get fired? [Archive] - Page 5

Don Quixote

11-03-11, 12:58 PM

The Baltimore Grand Prix thrilled spectators with a downtown race that sold 110,000 tickets and drew throngs to the Inner Harbor on Labor Day weekend.
riiiiiight.... :laugh:

We're trying to protect the investment made with taxpayers' money. We're hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.
Nice business model......

Cole said he viewed the Baltimore Grand Prix as "incredibly successful."
So what would failure look like...... :laugh:

racer2c

11-03-11, 01:04 PM

riiiiiight.... :laugh:

Nice business model......

So what would failure look like...... :laugh:

And yet notice the one constant missing from the article....the IRL. :shakehead

Napoleon

11-03-11, 01:51 PM

The Baltimore Grand Prix thrilled spectators with a downtown race that sold 110,000 tickets and drew throngs to the Inner Harbor on Labor Day weekend.

Of course even if the 110,000 number is "legit" they are likely counting tickets for Friday, Sat and Sun to the same person as 3 separate tickets. Even at that that gives you closing in on 37k individuals, and there is no way that if they had 37K at that race on Sunday they lost money unless the port-o-potties they rented were made out of gold and they gave away caviar to the crowd.

Chief

11-03-11, 01:55 PM

One of the lawsuits, filed by Steven C. Wehner, who created Baltimore Racing Development in his mother's Rodgers Forge basement five years ago, says the company owes him $575,000 in exchange for his 10.2 percent stake.
:rofl: crap writes itself

:wilke: 110K x $75 = $8.25M

Napoleon

11-03-11, 02:19 PM

Chief,

Good catch.

Now I have a visual of his business plan being written on the torn off top of a pizza box that has Cheetos stains all over it.

SteveH

11-03-11, 03:33 PM

the comments to that article are pretty good, this one is my favorite...

At least we are rid of all those pesky trees that lined the streets of Baltimore (or until 40 years from now when the saplings grow back).

And then there's this gem...

Leevank at 11:43 PM November 2, 2011
When will the official economic impact report be released? It was promised to be delivered by October 1. Then, the firm that was supposed to deliver it said it couldn't yet be prepared because they hadn't received the required information from Baltimore Racing Development. One of the local TV stations reported some time last week that it would be out this past Monday. Still no report. Could The Sun perhaps do some investigative reporting and find out why the report STILL hasn't been released, more than a month after it was originally due, and whether we're ever likely to get a full report?

Don Quixote

11-03-11, 03:36 PM

the comments to that article are pretty good, this one is my favorite...

And then there's this gem...Pure gold! :rofl:

Elmo T

11-03-11, 03:47 PM

Somebody played a giant Jedi mind trick on them. How else to explain this.

Mary

Apparently they did the same to Baltimore. There can't be a single person here surprised by this. :shakehead

Spicoli

11-03-11, 04:17 PM

:popcorn:

some good hate there.:thumbup:

Chief

11-03-11, 05:14 PM

Wanna hear a good one? I just read that Toronto turns a profit...:rofl::tony:

cameraman

11-03-11, 05:35 PM

All the while we have Ed Carpenter starting his own racing team with Fuzzy Vodka as the full season sponsor and Dario Franchitti turning laps at Indy in the new automobile.

It is just an amazing disconnect from reality, these folks are just addicted to the idea of Indy racing (no matter what the condition of Indy racing) and no matter what goes on they just keep coming back for more.

Mary

11-03-11, 06:57 PM

Andrew Longman

11-03-11, 10:06 PM

:flame::shakehead

I'm speechless after reading that article. Just speechless.

Mary

Yeah. It's almost like the article was composed of old posts from 7G.

I liked this part most of all:

“Why doesn’t NASCAR race on the streets of Long Beach?” he asked. “Why don’t you see Sprint Cup cars and Jimmie Johnson, Kasey Kahne, Kyle Busch--all the big names--at Long Beach or any other street course, for that matter? Why? It’s not because they couldn’t sell the place out. They’d pack the place. No question. But why don’t they try?

“It’s because that’s not what their cars are designed to do; a stock car isn’t designed to go around a street course. 43 stock cars on a tight narrow track like Long Beach or Baltimore would never work. So why, then, do we try and race dozens of Indy cars on these 1.5-mile NASCAR tracks…? And it’s the same situation, except NASCAR knows not to put their cars in an environment to do things they weren’t designed to do. And why do we? Because we haven’t learned that lesson yet.”

:rolleyes:

SteveH

11-03-11, 10:15 PM

I'd rather watch NASCAR at Long Beach than what headlines there now.

Michaelhatesfans

11-03-11, 11:15 PM

Looks like Randy has another emerging issue to deal with....

Grand Prix 'struggling' financially, facing suits over unpaid bills (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/auto-racing/baltimore-grand-prix/bs-md-grand-prix-suit-20111102,0,7218865,full.story)

Definitely a must read.

Attention potential sponsors - you too can be a part of this publicity train!

SteveH

11-03-11, 11:50 PM

More on Baltimore

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-grand-prix-finances-20111103,0,6355781.story

What happened?

trauma1

11-04-11, 12:38 AM

they got some splaining to do:rofl::rofl:

Lux Interior

11-04-11, 07:19 AM

More on Baltimore

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-grand-prix-finances-20111103,0,6355781.story

What happened?

Wait just a second. Is that article saying that the organizers brought the IRL to town, and did not make enough money to pay their subcontractors who provided services to put on the race? How could this be? :gomer:

Seriously - I'd have asked for 100% of my fees up front.

Lux Interior

11-04-11, 07:21 AM

If they sold tenderloin sammiches there they would have made enough to pay those vendors. Needed to follow the H-G model:tony:

opinionated ow

11-04-11, 07:50 AM

1995 wasn't so bad after all
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-1995-cart-oval-calendar-worth-revisiting/P1

All of this just pisses me off. I hope the family loses another $600 million before this is over.

I think they have to accept a loss and promote races themselves to rebuild. They need to take a loss and race at Pikes Peak, Milwaukee, Loudon, Gateway, Richmond, and Iowa and then save the fast stuff for the big tracks-Indianapolis, michigan and Fontana. If they could get Pocono that'd work too.

The races are only the start though. The IRL should look at purchasing tracks beyond Indianapolis-Milwaukee, Pikes Peak etc. There are plenty of car clubs etc that could and do use them and if they promote other races on the track then there is an extra revenue stream.

But doing that still wouldn't be enough. In all honesty, one of the missing things is the links to the short tracker. One of my things to rebuild would to be whack four or five Indycar drivers in the Chili Bowl.

Andrew Longman

11-04-11, 09:24 AM

I'd rather watch NASCAR at Long Beach than what headlines there now.I saw CASCAR race (with CART headliner) at Toronto about 2002.

That was OK.

Not many cars finished with fenders though.

Ed_Severson

11-04-11, 09:25 AM

I think they have to accept a loss and promote races themselves to rebuild. They need to take a loss and race at Pikes Peak, Milwaukee, Loudon, Gateway, Richmond, and Iowa and then save the fast stuff for the big tracks-Indianapolis, michigan and Fontana. If they could get Pocono that'd work too.

Pretty soon, at least where ovals are concerned, they're not going to have any other choice. Pocono still needs some facilities upgrades before open-wheel cars should run there; the rest of the list is exactly where they should be going (though I'll admit I'm not too fond of Pike's Peak).

Michaelhatesfans

11-04-11, 09:35 AM

This thing needs to die.

It is dead. This is the Weekend At Bernies version of auto racing, just flailing the corpse around hoping that no one will notice.

Ripped

11-04-11, 09:36 AM

It is dead. This is the Weekend At Bernies version of auto racing, just flailing the corpse around hoping that no one will notice.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

SteveH

11-04-11, 09:46 AM

throw another log on the fire

Team owner sues IndyCar series over suspension
(Team owner sues IndyCar series over suspension)

Going to be a busy off season at 16th and Georgetown Rd.

racer2c

11-04-11, 09:54 AM

throw another log on the fire

Team owner sues IndyCar series over suspension
(Team owner sues IndyCar series over suspension)

Going to be a busy off season at 16th and Georgetown Rd.

"Racing team owner Mark Olson is suing IndyCar after he was suspended from the second-tier Firestone IndyLights series for allegedly trying to orchestrate a boycott."

:shakehead

SteveH

11-04-11, 10:02 AM

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Caught miller on the radio, his gut feeling is that the 1.5 milers are all history. The sanction agreement with Texas hasn't been signed and it's looking like it just won't. They are never setting foot at LVMS again (tweets make that loud and clear), Kentucky & Chicago off the radar. He thinks it will be a 15 race/3 oval schedule.

DagoFast

11-04-11, 10:17 AM

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?157336-Vegas-street-race&p=2828832&viewfull=1#post2828832

Protecting them tarditions. One oval at a time.

SurfaceUnits

11-04-11, 11:06 AM

Protecting them tarditions. One oval at a time.

Condensed,,,,,,again:tony:

Ripped

11-04-11, 12:00 PM

:facepalm:

chop456

11-04-11, 12:03 PM

Their stupidity is stupefying.

Chief

11-04-11, 12:24 PM

So SPECial eD is gonna be gunnin for the grate Aj Fotys Trophy? If only 3 ohvals he's my odds on favorite for beein the chmpions! :rofl::gomer::tony:

I laugh today...because deep inside I love this FAIL.

SurfaceUnits

11-04-11, 12:47 PM

stroker

11-04-11, 01:00 PM

SurfaceUnits

11-04-11, 01:21 PM

Okay, I'm serious about this question. Let's say they announce a deal to run Road America for next year with the new car and everything.

How many fans actually pay to show up?

I'm saying less than 10,000.

Anyone else?

you musta been asleep,,,,,the new model is to give away all the tickets and have some spanser pay for it. Just think how grate it would be if they could give away tickets with ever biggulp at 7-11

Spicoli

11-04-11, 01:23 PM

Okay, I'm serious about this question. Let's say they announce a deal to run Road America for next year with the new car and everything.

How many fans actually pay to show up?

I'm saying less than 10,000.

Anyone else?

I dunno. People in Wisconsin Re pretty stupid.
A lot like Hoosiers. I wood not go.

SurfaceUnits

11-04-11, 01:25 PM

Ripped

11-04-11, 01:45 PM

I dunno. People in Wisconsin Re pretty stupid.
A lot like Hoosiers. I wood not go.

Fa-Q!!!!

:p

Shouldn't you be beating a drum and dancing at the Occupy Meridian Street Rally right now?

SteveH

11-04-11, 01:51 PM

Plenty of wailing and gnashing of teeth elsewhere on the internet over the potential loss of ovals.

It is everyone else's fault. :gomer:

Al Czervik

11-04-11, 02:23 PM

HAy CHioef, is there any oval the IRl hasn't been kicked out of

Kicked out of: Disney, Atlanta, Dover, New Hampshire(twice - noted for tiny), Nazareth, Michigan, Milwaukee(twice - noted for tiny), Nashville, St Louis, Joliet, Pikes Peak, California, Kentucky, Las Vegas, Texas, Phoenix, Charlotte, Kansas City, MoNtegi

Not kicked out of: Indy, Iowa.

SurfaceUnits

11-04-11, 02:33 PM

Kicked out of: Disney, Atlanta, Dover, New Hampshire(twice - noted for tiny), Nazareth, Michigan, Milwaukee(twice - noted for tiny), Nashville, St Louis, Joliet, Pikes Peak, California, Kentucky, Las Vegas, Texas, Phoenix, Charlotte, Kansas City, MoNtegi

Not kicked out of: Indy, Iowa.

add richmond

Al Czervik

11-04-11, 03:12 PM

add richmond
and that would make 20!

Napoleon

11-04-11, 03:16 PM

and that would make 20!

Doesn't that earn them a free sandwich at Subway or something?

Chief

11-04-11, 03:26 PM

Did you mean 'laughed out of"? :laugh:

hAY, that reminds me, Helio flew threw the grater at Richmond. Remember?

October 2003 article (http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns12081.html)

SurfaceUnits

11-04-11, 04:17 PM

how could we forget Hoestead

Elmo T

11-04-11, 04:24 PM

Did you mean 'laughed out of"? :laugh:

hAY, that reminds me, Helio flew threw the grater at Richmond. Remember?

October 2003 article (http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns12081.html)

There are so many, who can keep track? Not like it is a one-off memorable occurrence. :shakehead

Rogue Leader

11-04-11, 06:33 PM

Pretty soon, at least where ovals are concerned, they're not going to have any other choice. Pocono still needs some facilities upgrades before open-wheel cars should run there; the rest of the list is exactly where they should be going (though I'll admit I'm not too fond of Pike's Peak).

IIRC last time I was at Pocono (2004 I think) it had no catch fences in the turns or anything. I was running Skip Barber Formula Dodges and they basically told us "before you get too brave trying to pass on the banked turn, remember that if you f**** up you will probably land in the parking lot".

Chief

11-04-11, 07:05 PM

All is well, all is well. Carry on...

“There were a lot of conflicting emotions after what happened at Las Vegas and I think a lot of us were questioning things. None of our families wanted to see us get caught up in anything like that again. But the days go by and you feel that fire to keep racing is still there. I think we realized that you need to keep going and I definitely have some unfinished business in IndyCar.”

PT wants to land somewhere (http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-tracy-vows-to-continue-in-2012/)

Hopefully it won't be in a granstAnds. :shakehead

Spicoli

11-04-11, 07:51 PM

All is well, all is well. Carry on...

PT wants to land somewhere (http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-tracy-vows-to-continue-in-2012/)

Hopefully it won't be in a granstAnds. :shakehead

**** PT. dood shudda hang it up years ago.

:neilyoung:

SurfaceUnits

11-05-11, 03:15 AM

Spicoli's neighbor has a plan

IRL needs to take advantage of NBA lockout

Here's a big idea that could put the IRL back on the map like it was in the 90s.

NBA is probably the most popular sport in America, but there probably won't be any NBA this year possibly. The solution to this is easy: IRL needs to run a special winter racing series.

Hear me out.

You run indoor 3/4-midget races inside all the basketball rinks that NBA teams play at with all the current stars of the IRL. Each race you get the home team's best player to drive a 3/4-midget and start last and if he can win the race, he and everyone in attendance will split a $10,000,000 prize. Wouldn't that be something.

Now, it gets better. We'll show these races on the television on the channels and timeslots the NBA had! We're cooking with gas now.

http://www.motorsportforums.com/indycar/149003-irl-needs-take-advantage-nba-lockout.html

Lux Interior

11-05-11, 04:58 AM

Spicoli's neighbor has a plan

http://www.motorsportforums.com/indycar/149003-irl-needs-take-advantage-nba-lockout.html

And here we thought the folks at TF were delusional. This takes the cake for stupidity:rofl:

Ripped

11-05-11, 07:20 AM

Spicoli's neighbor has a plan

http://www.motorsportforums.com/indycar/149003-irl-needs-take-advantage-nba-lockout.html

That's a joke, right?

Spicoli

11-05-11, 08:06 AM

Fa-Q!!!!

:p

Shouldn't you be beating a drum and dancing at the Occupy Meridian Street Rally right now?

Friday + autofill + red red wine = fun postes.

Spicoli

11-05-11, 08:08 AM

And here we thought the folks at TF were delusional. This takes the cake for stupidity:rofl:

Now, it gets better.

Which usually means it doesn't. :D

patski

11-05-11, 10:42 AM

I dunno. People in Wisconsin Re pretty stupid.
A lot like Hoosiers. I wood not go.

HEY! Quit that. I say less than 5000.

Mary

11-05-11, 10:57 AM

Their stupidity is stupefying.

+1

I feel ill after reading just a few of those posts. Are those people real? Or are the they spawn of The Stepford Wives: The Racers? Real people posting, not shills? Okay.... I can shake it off.

Mary

chop456

11-05-11, 11:22 AM

basketball rinks

:laugh::rofl::laugh::eek::rofl::saywhat::tony:

High Sided

11-05-11, 12:00 PM

And here we thought the folks at TF were delusional. This takes the cake for stupidity:rofl:

this quote was in a response tf found worthy of making front page news...

- Everything was better in 1995 - Wrong, as much as CART fans think going back to the cars and tracks from 1995 will make things better, it won’t. IndyCar racing was headed for a fall before the split (not because of road racers, cutting ovals, engine type or even closeness of finish) because the world was changing as NASCAR became king, niche cable and the internet took off and the US economy changed for sponsors of all types as the 90s came to an end. The split just made it easy for fans to leave and sponsors to not renew their programs.

beyond delusional :confused:

SurfaceUnits

11-05-11, 01:00 PM

+1

I feel ill after reading just a few of those posts. Are those people real? Or are the they spawn of The Stepford Wives: The Racers? Real people posting, not shills? Okay.... I can shake it off.

Mary

their delusions make life easier,,,,otherwise they'd have to stay all drunked up and ****

SurfaceUnits

11-05-11, 01:17 PM

this quote was in a response tf found worthy of making front page news...

- Everything was better in 1995 - Wrong, as much as CART fans think going back to the cars and tracks from 1995 will make things better, it won’t. IndyCar racing was headed for a fall before the split (not because of road racers, cutting ovals, engine type or even closeness of finish) because the world was changing as NASCAR became king, niche cable and the internet took off and the US economy changed for sponsors of all types as the 90s came to an end. The split just made it easy for fans to leave and sponsors to not renew their programs.

beyond delusional :confused:

and Randy can't figure out why you don't want to play with his fans

Mary

11-05-11, 09:00 PM

this quote was in a response tf found worthy of making front page news...

- Everything was better in 1995 - Wrong, as much as CART fans think going back to the cars and tracks from 1995 will make things better, it won’t. IndyCar racing was headed for a fall before the split (not because of road racers, cutting ovals, engine type or even closeness of finish) because the world was changing as NASCAR became king, niche cable and the internet took off and the US economy changed for sponsors of all types as the 90s came to an end. The split just made it easy for fans to leave and sponsors to not renew their programs.

beyond delusional :confused:

THEY CAN'T ADMIT THEY SCREWED IT ALL UP!!!!!! Sorry for shouting, but this is unreal. I spent eight years working in a drug clinic, I've heard of denial, but this is ridiculous, geez!

NASCAR becoming more popular, niche cable and the internet probably would have helped AOW had there been ONE series.

It was the SPLIT that drove the sponsors and fans away.

Mary

SteveH

11-05-11, 09:20 PM

Vanity-question regarding low HP, high downforce formula...

What was the *point* of the same low hp, high downforce formula for so many years? I'm sure the obvious answer is 'cost containment' but if so many people knew pack racing made ovals more dangerous than necessary, why then stick with it? Was it that difficult to add HP or make simple changes to aerodynamics? What am i missing here?

:rolleyes:

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?157405-Vanity-question-regarding-low-HP-high-downforce-formula...&p=2830419#post2830419

SurfaceUnits

11-06-11, 07:46 PM

That's a joke, right?

Must be,,,here is his negst idea

I have a big idea for the Indy Racing League (IRL). The IRL should "dump" their product.

The IRL loses money every year. Taking a huge loss now will mean nothing to the rich Hulman-George family. What family doesn't keep some Clabber Girl on hand? They're doing fine. And they'll make a big gain.

Here's the theory:

1. Schedule IRL races at the same date at the same time as NASCAR races. Put them in cities as close to the NASCAR race as possible.

2. Don't charge a single cent. Everything is free!

3. Soon people will go to the IRL races over NASCAR, as they are free.

4. They will see how good IRL is compared to boring old NASCAR, because IRL is faster and has better drivers, and will now choose to watch IRL on TV over NASCAR, too, now that they know what it is.

5. NASCAR will fold and IRL will have a monopoly on American racing.

6. IRL can now charge money for their races, sign a huge new TV deal, sign new sponsors from NASCAR, and make up for the losses in the dumping years with big profits.

It's perfect. It's brilliant. I'm emailing it to Randy Bernard.

Spicoli

11-06-11, 08:27 PM

Must be,,,here is his negst idea

Well, that's a grate idear. :D

trauma1

11-06-11, 08:50 PM

Ya just can't fix tarded, he isn't right is he. But he would be the perfect CEO for the league:rofl::rofl:

gerhard911

11-06-11, 08:58 PM

2. Don't charge a single cent. Everything is free!

Didn't they already try that :confused:

:redhats:

trauma1

11-06-11, 09:02 PM

he had me at "dump the product," but then he went into delusional

Spicoli

11-07-11, 12:11 AM

Didn't they already try that :confused:

:redhats:

You know, you have to be completely stoopid to not get into ims or a irl race for free. There are so many comped tickets, free tickets, passes etc that on
Y the true believers buy tickets. I haven't paid to get into ims for ANYTHING since the mid nineties. Every gp race, every motogp race and the two indy500 I saw since the split - all free. So they have tried that route before and still no one goes.

I am not sure what is more hysterical, watching them try every conceivable promo/marketing/gimmick to fill the stands, or watching the Gomerati suck it all down and buy into it. From the hot wheels bullcrap to this travesty in Vegas it's all just complete fail. I only follow this for the comedy gold. And they never let me down. Fools.:tony:

cameraman

11-07-11, 12:51 AM

I haven't paid to get into ims for ANYTHING since the mid nineties. Every gp race, every motogp race and the two indy500 I saw since the split - all free.

I have to say that you are discounting your epic schmoozing skilz in Indianapolis politics & business. Joe Clodbuster from West Butt****, Nebraska would have a far more difficult time finding that many comps. Not saying it is impossible but who you know makes a massive difference in these things.

Spicoli

11-07-11, 12:55 AM

I have to say that you are discounting your epic schmoozing skilz in Indianapolis politics & business. Joe Clodbuster from West Butt****, Nebraska would have a far more difficult time finding that many comps. Not saying it is impossible but who you know makes a massive difference in these things.

Like I am some sort of Ron Burgundy or something. :rofl:

It's really easy. Stand out front of ims and just ask for extra tickets. Or, just smile and walk in. :thumbup:

Michaelhatesfans

11-07-11, 01:24 AM

:rolleyes:

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?157405-Vanity-question-regarding-low-HP-high-downforce-formula...&p=2830419#post2830419

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY did I click on that? Now this is stuck in my freaking head,

"Low HP and high downforce really got off when IRL got CART drivers and teams starting with 2003 and in some stances in 2002. CART had fewer ovals and drivers weren't trained to race regulary on ovals and especially on 1.5 mile high banked ovals. It was a safety need."

Un****ing believable.:saywhat:

trauma1

11-07-11, 01:31 AM

And you were expecting what? common sense from the douchbags:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Michaelhatesfans

11-07-11, 01:55 AM

And you were expecting what? common sense from the douchbags:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Not at all, it was just a brutal reminder as why I generally avoid them in the first place. You just forget how frighteningly stupid they are, that's all.

trauma1

11-07-11, 02:32 AM

Not at all, it was just a brutal reminder as why I generally avoid them in the first place. You just forget how frighteningly stupid they are, that's all.

What's more brutal and frighteningly is they breed:gomer::gomer::gomer::gomer::shakehead:

Spicoli

11-07-11, 10:07 AM

What's more brutal and frighteningly is they breed:gomer::gomer::gomer::gomer::shakehead:

:pafftardia:

Don Quixote

11-07-11, 10:45 AM

What's more brutal and frighteningly is they breed:gomer::gomer::gomer::gomer::shakehead:I am guessing that the gene pool is getting pretty shallow. :tony:

Michaelhatesfans

11-07-11, 11:47 AM

What's more brutal and frighteningly is they breed:gomer::gomer::gomer::gomer::shakehead:

They can vote, as well.

Good luck sleeping tonight.

trauma1

11-07-11, 12:47 PM

Thanks a lot.It's a Monday, why start the week off like that:yuck::yuck::irked::irked:

Spicoli

11-07-11, 08:55 PM

They can vote, as well.

Good luck sleeping tonight.

FTG had a Laura Bush findraiser at his house a few years back. His momma was/is a big D (hey we take what we can get, big tent and all), but accourse this one was dropped on his head. You know, he and GWB remind me a lot of each other. :D

SteveH

11-07-11, 09:17 PM

trauma1

11-07-11, 09:21 PM

how's that bizness going, these morans make gentaloser & KK look smart:gomer::gomer::gomer:

Spicoli

11-07-11, 09:23 PM

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2011/11/07/baltimore-threatens-to-pull-plug-on.html

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-city-warns-grand-prix-20111107,0,3045437.story

Baltitoast

oopsie. :D

Like I said, they never cease to provide excellent comedy.

trauma1

11-07-11, 09:27 PM

few gallons of napalm, Santa and send it to IMS with a big ribbon:D:D

miatanut

11-07-11, 10:27 PM

FTG had a Laura Bush findraiser at his house a few years back. His momma was/is a big D (hey we take what we can get, big tent and all), but accourse this one was dropped on his head. You know, he and GWB remind me a lot of each other. :D

There was never any doubt in my mind FTG leaned right. It hadn't occurred to me that mom leaned left.

Lux Interior

11-07-11, 10:30 PM

oopsie. :D

Like I said, they never cease to provide excellent comedy.

This one takes the cake. The promoter borrowed $50,000 from his father in law:

"Company officials have acknowledged that they are delinquent on some bills and that they planned to reach out to upset vendors. Davidson said he recently had dinner with his father-in-law, who sued the company, and told him to not expect payment for some time because his is one of the smaller debts the company owes.

"I think Thanksgiving will be fine," Davidson said when asked about their relationship. The in-law, Robert Roman, has declined to comment. ":rofl:

Indy

11-07-11, 11:28 PM

Too funny. I picture all of our fellow haters who preceeded us in death sitting around, having some brews and brats, and laughing their asses off about the way things are going. :D

Winston Wolfe

11-08-11, 12:42 AM

I am guessing that the gene pool is getting pretty shallow. :tony:

Getting shallow ??? C'mon man, that gene pool is so shallow, that if you dove in head first, you wouldnt get your ears wet....

SurfaceUnits

11-08-11, 12:45 AM

Company says unpaid Grand Prix bills could cause bankruptcy
Complaint latest in series of vendors and lenders about payment

The owner of another company on Thursday voiced concerns over the Baltimore Grand Prix organizers' payment of bills, saying a $200,000 debt could cause her small business to close down.

Cathy Vogel, chief executive of Sunrise Safety Services in Glen Burnie, said Baltimore Racing Development owes her firm for work on the race, which was held over Labor Day weekend. Vogel's company set up concrete barriers and altered signs and roadwork for the race.

"It's very devastating," said Vogel, whose company has been in business for 16 years. "This is really a blow for us. We're going to have to consider closing because of this."

Organizers of the Baltimore Grand Prix did not respond Thursday for a comment on the Sunrise Safety situation.

But they have acknowledged that they owe a number of vendors. In addition, state officials say the racing company missed a loan payment, and the company faces lawsuits alleging nearly $1.6 million in unpaid bills, including a suit over the repayment of a $50,000 loan from the CEO's father-in-law.

Despite selling 110,000 tickets and drawing throngs to the Inner Harbor for the race, Baltimore Racing Development officials have said they never expected to turn a profit the first year. Now the financial issues have led some to question the company's ability to host the auto race next year.

The racing company has vowed to make up payments that have been missed. "There are vendors that we owe. Many of them are personal friends … " Pete Collier, chief operating officer at Baltimore Racing Development Collier said Wednesday. "We're going through some issues, and I'm trying like hell to get out in front of it."

Still, those missed payments are causing some to question whether race officials can meet other obligations, such as replanting trees that were chopped down to make room for the race.

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if only someone could have seen this coming and warned them

trauma1

11-08-11, 12:53 AM

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::laugh::laugh::laugh::laug h:

Michaelhatesfans

11-08-11, 01:39 AM

"One of the lawsuits, filed by Steven C. Wehner, who created Baltimore Racing Development in his mother's Rodgers Forge basement five years ago..."

I bet it seemed pretty awesome when they were doing the simulations and projected budgets with multi-sided dice.:\

Michaelhatesfans

11-08-11, 01:43 AM

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/news/2011/11/07/baltimore-threatens-to-pull-plug-on.html

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-city-warns-grand-prix-20111107,0,3045437.story

Deputy Mayor Kaliope Parthemos said in a statement that the financially beleaguered Baltimore Racing Development "has not honored the terms of its contract with the city" and that the company must "restructure and recapitalize or sell itself to investors in order to make the event profitable in the future."

Investors.
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Yeah, they must be lined up to get in on this cash cow.

11-08-11, 05:08 AM

Napoleon

11-08-11, 06:27 AM

There was never any doubt in my mind FTG leaned right.

I have checked public campaign finance report databases a few times over the years and he has given a fair amount to Republicans.

Chief

11-08-11, 10:47 AM

What did they do, take the 110K x $75 = $8.25M to Atlantic City and blow it all? Maybe the fans still didn't pay for their tix yet... :rofl:

Pay up you ****suckers! I wonder why the IRL hasn't filed a lawsuit yet???? :)

Spicoli

11-08-11, 10:54 AM

I have checked public campaign finance report databases a few times over the years and he has given a fair amount to Republicans.

I have sat within kicking distance to lord doofuss many times. He never remembers anyone's name, but people close to him know I am a supreme hater and they just laugh. I got invited as a joke to the Laura bush thingy, and really contemplated going. But the $1000 price tag and those server service doods with the guns spoke to me a little louder and said "don't go buddy". I mean, hating on the message board is one thing, but taking a **** on his lawn with the SS guys all amped up on coffee and supplementals just tipped the scales. In retrospect, I am convinced not going was the right decision. I am still not done hating tho. :thumbup: