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dando
04-12-13, 09:00 PM
Or maybe Kevin should consider the "other" Jersey Shore... The one that borders Pennsylvania. Lots of good canoeing/kayaking and bed & breakfasts in my parts. :gomer:

NJtard, it's going to be a LONG time before I set foot in NJ. I have wonderful memories of OCNJ (Surekill and Atlantic City Expressway not so much), but it's all tainted now. :(

I'm actually thinking Cooperstown with a side of Niagra Falls by motorcycle this summer while the girls are in OCNJ. I priced DCL cruises, and damn they are expensive. :eek: But you get what you pay for...comments I've read is that this a marketing ploy to drive off-season traffic. Really? If I did cruise on Carnival again, I'd be borrowing a Hazmat suit from Elmo. :gomer: ;)

-Kevin

chop456
04-13-13, 04:38 PM
We just did a 7 night on the Celebrity Reflection. Nice ship.

There were 2 Carnival ships leaving port at the same time we were. The boy points and says "Ewwww....more like Carni-VILE." :laugh:

dando
04-18-13, 05:46 PM
http://www.wdwinfo.com/news/disney-cruise-line/Carnival_Ecstasy_loses_power_at_sea_Carnival_Corp_ announces_enhancements_to_emergency_power_systems. htm?utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=twitterfeed

:saywhat:

-Kevin

TravelGal
04-18-13, 09:18 PM
We just did a 7 night on the Celebrity Reflection. Nice ship.

There were 2 Carnival ships leaving port at the same time we were. The boy points and says "Ewwww....more like Carni-VILE." :laugh:

Glad you liked the ship. I'm toying with the idea of seeing the Solstice in Seattle. We can compare notes. :) BTW, that's a smart young chap you have there. Funnier than Letterman.

Kiwifan
05-09-13, 04:40 AM
Oh dear.... http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/8654500/Missing-cruise-passengers-fell-overboard

Doesn't sound good. :(

TravelGal
05-09-13, 05:52 AM
Thoughts:

I wish they would stop calling Carnival ships "luxury cruise ships."

I'm not surprised people are jumping into the sea to get off. (okay, just kidding)

There have been several more "events" from lightening strikes on down in recent weeks. I've got a group on Carnival from Long Beach over the 4th of July weekend and I'm just hoping the darn thing stays afloat!

Andrew Longman
05-09-13, 06:01 PM
NJtard, it's going to be a LONG time before I set foot in NJ. I have wonderful memories of OCNJ (Surekill and Atlantic City Expressway not so much), but it's all tainted now. :(

I'm actually thinking Cooperstown with a side of Niagra Falls by motorcycle this summer while the girls are in OCNJ. I priced DCL cruises, and damn they are expensive. :eek: But you get what you pay for...comments I've read is that this a marketing ploy to drive off-season traffic. Really? If I did cruise on Carnival again, I'd be borrowing a Hazmat suit from Elmo. :gomer: ;)

-Kevini suggest you head east a bit to take in the finger lakes region. Really nice. Maybe take in Watkins Glen. I will be camping at the state park on NASCAR weekend and I can highly recommend it.

dando
05-27-13, 07:03 AM
Good Lord...

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/fire-onboard-royal-caribbean-grandeur-of-the-seas-cruise-ship-out

-Kevin

TravelGal
05-27-13, 03:20 PM
Good Lord...

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/fire-onboard-royal-caribbean-grandeur-of-the-seas-cruise-ship-out

-Kevin

HOLY :eek::eek:. Too bad. That's a nice ship. Was.

Is it comforting that a Carnival ship is on standby to help with evacuations if necessary? I think you'd have to pry my fingers from the railings to get me on the Sensation. Depending on how hot the railings were, of course.

dando
05-27-13, 03:36 PM
HOLY :eek::eek:. Too bad. That's a nice ship. Was.

Is it comforting that a Carnival ship is on standby to help with evacuations if necessary? I think you'd have to pry my fingers from the railings to get me on the Sensation. Depending on how hot the railings were, of course.

The Sensation was our honeymoon cruise. :gomer: Now about that DCL cruise... :tony: I'm grabbing Minnie as a life preserver. Daisy is just too mean. :D

-Kevin

dando
05-28-13, 04:21 PM
Crispy boat.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57586358/flights-being-set-up-for-passengers-after-cruise-ship-fire/

:eek:

-Kevin

Anteater
05-30-13, 10:23 PM
Fire safety at sea has improved since this event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Morro_Castle_%281930%29)
:eek:

TravelGal
05-31-13, 01:24 AM
Crispy boat.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57586358/flights-being-set-up-for-passengers-after-cruise-ship-fire/

:eek:

-Kevin

Yah. They have announced (are hoping) that it will be back in service for the July 12 sailing. So far, they've handled it pretty well, always staying out in front of the PR.

chop456
05-31-13, 01:50 AM
I've been on that ship. This wasn't my fault.

dando
05-31-13, 08:06 AM
I've been on that ship. This wasn't my fault.

Not buying that. :gomer: ;)

TG, I can't believe that ship wil be ready for use in July. In other news...buy stock in shipyards. :saywhat:

-Kevin

cameraman
08-03-13, 02:30 AM
Nowhere is safe:eek::eek::eek:


Media reports said between 20 and 30 passengers were vomiting on a Santiago to Sydney flight. Dozens of people were rushed off a Qantas flight for medical treatment in Sydney on Thursday [1 Aug 2013] after a stomach bug struck mid-journey, triggering a mass vomiting episode. Qantas said a "number of passengers travelling in the same group on QF28 (between Santiago and Sydney) became unwell with a gastrointestinal illness" on the 14-hour journey to Australia. Media reports said between 20 and 30 passengers were vomiting as they disembarked in Sydney and were met by a fleet of ambulances.

"It is believed the illness was contracted before boarding the aircraft and symptoms became evident during the flight," Qantas said in a statement. "The aircraft has been met by medical staff to look after the unwell passengers." As a precaution, Qantas said all other passengers on the flight were advised to monitor their health closely over the next 24-48 hours.

Health authorities said they had been advised that: "26 passengers returning on a Qantas flight from Santiago, Chile, developed vomiting and diarrhoea on the plane, consistent with norovirus infection, a common cause of outbreaks of gastroenteritis in Australia and elsewhere."

"New South Wales Health has provided Qantas with a letter and factsheet about viral gastroenteritis to distribute to all departing passengers, as well as advice for cleaning and cabin staff," the state's health office said in a statement.

It said the sick group was assessed by paramedics and escorted out of the airport "with minimal exposure to other passengers" after they were cleared to go home.


This outbreak has been attributed to norovirus infection, which is often associated with rapid onset outbreaks of vomiting of short duration followed by rapid recovery. Norovirus outbreaks are often associated with travellers and passengers on cruise ships, situations where people from diverse backgrounds congregate together in close proximity. However, the suddenness of the outbreak on the Quantas flight apparently restricted to a group of people travelling together suggests other causes such as staphylococcal food poisoning, contracted before or after boarding, which has a 1-6 hour incubation period. It would be of value to know if any of the sick passengers were febrile, as fever may be present with norovirus infection but not with staphylococcal food poisoning.

:saywhat::shakehead::yuck:

nrc
08-03-13, 04:36 PM
Nowhere is safe:eek::eek::eek:

:saywhat::shakehead::yuck:

"Hey! Garth, get it together, man. 'Cause if you hurl, and I catch a whiff of it, man.. I'm gonna spew. And if I blow chunks, chances are someone else is gonna honk, alright? And that's gonna set off a parastolic reaction, alright?"

Gnam
08-05-13, 01:25 AM
If you're gonna spew, spew into this.

http://i40.tinypic.com/o88io7.jpg

dando
09-15-13, 11:24 PM
Parbuckling.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/15/world/europe/italy-costa-concordia-salvage/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

gjc2
09-16-13, 05:30 AM
The ship is visible on Google Earth, just off the East coast of Isola del Giglio

dando
09-16-13, 07:31 AM
I saw an update on The Today Show this AM, and the operation is proceeding according to plan after a 3-hour weather delay. :thumbup:

dando
09-16-13, 07:38 AM
Live feed.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/cvplive/cvpstream1.html

TravelGal
09-16-13, 09:26 AM
Not buying that. :gomer: ;)

TG, I can't believe that ship wil be ready for use in July. In other news...buy stock in shipyards. :saywhat:

-Kevin

This was about the fire on the Grandeur of the Seas. I checked the RCCL website and see there are cruises listed (bad choice of word) for next week and onward for New England but others seem to be cancelled. Maybe it's been up and running for a while or not. ?

As for Costa, many agents think it's silly to publicize this so much. I think it falls in the "there is no bad publicity" category because it's now become a media event way beyond what any cruise could.

JoeBob
09-16-13, 01:17 PM
Grandeur returned to service July 12th. The Canada/New England season is REALLY short. There's no cancellations, just other itineraries.

dando
09-17-13, 02:44 PM
Time lapse video of the raising.

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2013/09/17/concordia-timelapse..html

Once they search for the two still missing (one crew member and one passenger), and recover the belongings of the passengers they should tow it to the coast off Somalia and let the pirates have at it. :gomer:

Gnam
09-17-13, 03:45 PM
very cool. I'm surprised they continued the operation at night. You'd think it would be safer to work in the daylight.

Can't wait for the drydock photos when they scrap it.

cameraman
09-17-13, 03:51 PM
There was no stopping once they started.

Napoleon
09-17-13, 04:08 PM
^^^^

My impression was the timing was driven by where the tide was at (it was timed for low tide) and if at this time of the year the best time tide wise is night, then perhaps night it is, since winter is coming (I know, Italy is not MN, but perhaps the weather is somewhat worse) it may not have been wise to wait until the tide was better lined up with the tides.

cameraman
09-17-13, 04:15 PM
The process took much longer than they had planned. It was supposed to be completed in daylight but the thing just moved very, very slowly. I heard that blood pressures were astronomical for a few hours there. It was always moving but so slowly that the worry was it would tear itself apart.

dando
09-17-13, 04:28 PM
The process was delayed for three hours due to weather, so that contributed as well.

SteveH
09-17-13, 11:06 PM
http://i.imgur.com/mERNllk.jpg

chop456
09-18-13, 01:26 AM
Should have just filled it with ping pong balls, dummies.

Don Quixote
09-18-13, 08:33 AM
Should have just filled it with ping pong balls, dummies.Before or after it sunk?

TravelGal
09-19-13, 02:42 PM
Should have just filled it with ping pong balls, dummies.


Before or after it sunk?

Or filled it with dummies. Oh, they were there before it sunk.

dando
09-19-13, 04:13 PM
Or filled it with dummies. Oh, they were there before it sunk.

Thankfully Mr. Mouse is a better captain for a certain cruise you talked me into. ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBgghnQF6E4

:D

TravelGal
04-23-14, 11:14 AM
Came to this thread to post and saw that last bit of business from dando. Hurry back, dude, we miss you.

Today's ARTA newsletter expanded my vocabulary. I had never heard the word "sponson" in my life. Had to look it up. I thought it was a typo at first!

Crane Barge Arrives To Lift Costa Concordia Sponsons
A crane barge has arrived at Giglio Island to help position the 19 sponsons that will be attached to the wreck in preparation for its refloating. The Conquest MB1 is an offshore crane barge fitted with a sophisticated rotating/luffing crane and automated heel/trim compensation system, according to The Parbuckling Project. The diver teams involved in installing the sponsons will operate from the barge.

Gnam
04-23-14, 12:54 PM
I thought this thread was bumped for the Korean ferry disaster. That crew seems to have trained with the captain of the Concordia. :shakehead:

Napoleon
04-23-14, 02:20 PM
That crew seems to have trained with the captain of the Concordia. :shakehead:

Heck, since every time I have seen the captain of the Korean ship he has had a hood over his head and has been bent over so you can not see his face the captain of the Concordia may have also been the captain of the Korean ship.

Gnam
04-23-14, 03:23 PM
Still no word on why the ferry went down. Could be the same monster that gobbled up that Malaysian Airlines flight.

cameraman
04-23-14, 03:43 PM
I thought it was a sharp turn at high speed which caused trucks/cargo to slide and/or tip.

stroker
04-23-14, 05:00 PM
As long as it wasn't a Nork torpedo....

Gnam
04-23-14, 05:12 PM
There was no report of an explosion or fire, no oil slick, and the photos of the ship sinking don't show any holes in bottom.

This interview with an acquaintance of the third mate on duty at the time of the sinking says it was an accident caused by shifting loads, like cameraman said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/23/south-korea-ferry-cause_n_5199318.html

TravelGal
05-12-14, 12:57 PM
And the beat goes on.

Concordia Sponson Fails
The first of the sponsons that was mounted on the Costa Concordia failed earlier this week. The sponsons are key pieces in the re-floating of the Concordia wreck. Reports said there were no injuries, and the salvage team said an internal movement of ballast water caused the sponson to slip. There was no further damage and the removal process still appears to be on-time to move the ship by the end of the summer.

TravelGal
06-05-14, 03:53 PM
Date Set For Towing Of Costa Concordia To Genoa [or so they say now]
The wreck of the Costa Concordia will be raised on or around July 20 and will be towed to Genoa where it will be scrapped, according to Italian newspaper reports. The decision was taken last Wednesday in a meeting at the Genoa headquarters of the ship's owners, Costa Crociere, which is owned by Carnival Corp. The journey from the island of Giglio, where the wreck lies, and Genoa will take around five days. A number of observers will travel alongside the ship, including Greenpeace.

TravelGal
06-28-14, 09:19 PM
So maybe not Genoa? This is SO Italian. 19 people in a room and 24 opinions.

Costa Wants Concordia Wreck TowedTo Genoa
At a meeting held Wednesday Costa argued that the Cincordia should abe towed to Genoa. While 17 of the 19 parties at the Rome meeting agreed on Genoa, there was still support for Piombino, the nearest mainland port to Giglio. However, port improvements are needed there that would delay the removal. The Concordia wreck should be towed to Genoa for breaking, The decision now goes to Italy's Council of Ministers and could come on Monday. Costa officials argued that Genoa is the only port in Italy where demolition and recycling activities can start immediately. The wreck will be ready to tow from Giglio in three weeks, a period that statistically presents the most favorable weather and sea conditions. Concordia is the biggest naval salvage operation in history. Currently more than 350 technicians are working 24/7 to complete sponson installation before the refloating. All the 15 starboard sponsons have been installed and now technicians are working on the last four sponsons to be positioned on the port side. After that, the wreck will be refloated and readied for towing. Costa said the schedule projects the refloating can start by mid-July, pending approval from the Monitoring Observatory.

TravelGal
07-11-14, 03:42 PM
More than you ever wanted to know. Emphasis added.

Refloating The Costa Concordia
There is a lot of interest in the refloating of the Concordia which is scheduled to start next Monday. It will be the most complex and expensive maritime recovery operation in history and Cruise Critic will be reporting it live. Editor Adam Coulter will be on the island of Giglio throughout the refloat, posting news stories, tweeting live, taking pictures and answering your questions throughout the week. Last week, after much discussion, the Italian government finally gave the all-clear to start the refloat, and tow the ship to Genoa. The estimated weeklong operation will see the ship gradually raised by pumping seawater out of the 30 sponsons. Once these are fully emptied of seawater the ship will have a draft of about 18.5 meters, it will then be attached to tugs and towed to Genoa for dismantling. You can follow it live at cruisecritic.com and you can post questions on the site now.

cameraman
07-11-14, 03:54 PM
http://live.cruisecritic.com/Event/Cruise_Critic_Live_From_the_Costa_Concordia_Raisin g

Anteater
08-01-14, 04:02 PM
Costa Concordia has reached the scrapyard:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2710037/The-end-voyage-Costa-Concordia-reaches-ship-breaking-yard-Italy-five-day-towing-operation.html

My Google search showed a link to a recent article about Schettino continuing to make excuses, but I didn't have the heart to read it. :thumbdown:

TravelGal
10-07-15, 12:21 PM
Costa Refuses To Accept Blame For Concordia
Passengers and crew who suffered physical and psychological injuries when the Costa Concordia capsized have criticised the cruise ship's operator as it continues to deny liability for what happened. Following a recent court hearing in Genoa, Costa Crociere Spa's lawyers denied liability including allowing the crew to perform a dangerous manoeuvre which led to the shipwreck off the coast of Italy. They also deny the crew had lacked training and that there was a lack of information given to passengers as the Concordia went down. Costa also denied responsibility for the lack of intervention of the ship's captain, Francesco Schettino, and other crew members who abandoned the ship on the Isle of Giglio. Schettino was found guilty in February this year of multiple manslaughter charges, causing an environmental disaster and abandoning ship on the night of the disaster that claimed 32 lives, and sentenced to 16 years in prison. Personal injury lawyers at Irwin Mitchell are working with Italian colleagues to pursue the cases of a dozen passengers and crew through the Italian legal system. Last year, the law firm secured undisclosed settlements for a number of other British passengers after court proceedings were issued in in England against the cruise operator Costa Crociere. Emphasis added. Costa has stated that it was not responsible for the captain and his actions even though he was their employee. Good luck with that. Personal comment added. ;)