St. Pete thread

[datachicane]

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[cameraman]

Well no, not technically. The Foytility threads were aimed at mocking the futility of AJ Foyt, last bastion of the IRL empire formed by his god son, Lord Sagamore.

Well AJ is running Mike Conway in an all American red, white & blue Honda powered Dallara this year so there ya go.

Although the red, white & blue part probably is for the Union Jack...

[MoCartt]

As a main instigator at smackedforum.net I have to defend it. And, at the same time defend OffCamber, Crapwagon and even the new breed and more open fans at TrackForum and other forums.

I'll try to make it simple.

Open Rules.

Creativity and Technology.

Shared power and control of the series.

REAL top level Racing.

And as far as our particular forum...poking fun with sticks at those that don't seem to understand why we feel the way we do. Some bring that wrath on themselves.

What you have today is not top tier racing. Don't try to sell it as such. Yet, I rarely see anyone defending Indycar ever talk about the fact IRL/Indycar heavy-handed control of spec and very limited rules does not work. They want to blame the split and the fans, not the dang facts.

Having a series boxed into a single car that needs to be used for 5-10 years is even worse. Sticking body panels on the same car is not going to cut it either. Don't 'talk' (spec) down to us, it is demeaning.

Now as far as hating on forums or even ex-fans in general...knock yourselves out. But, most of you that put us down take us way too serious. Probably yourselves too. You can move on too. Or, can you?

I sometimes wonder if some of these forums (or ex-fans) act as the unwanted voice on the other shoulder...the good devil...telling you what you don't want to hear.

What do they say about love...that disinterest is the true opposite and more hurtful than hating? Many forget we really did love the racing and still do and just want that back...at a high level. The racing! Not the time period, not the people, not a name of a sanctioning body. And not what some are willing to accept at this time.

At the same time, we have always felt (and history proves) that what we loved, what worked, came about with CART and not Indy. There is a reason why and I say some seem to miss it big time even as simple as it is. Look at the concepts and facts. Look at what worked and why. Look at the fact that Indy can't get it done was proven a long time before CART and is being proven again and again. History is fact...gloss over it at your own risk but don't put down those that see the repeat.

To miss that is to miss a lot. To not understand that means you do not understand us.

Now back to 'our' hole. Thanks!

[cameraman]

Well IndyCars attempt to turn into the Grand Am of open wheel seems to be bearing fruit. The crowd at Barber was worthy of a Grand Am race and now the tv rating are in. Nielsen reports the race at Barber on ex-Versus drew a 0.25 TV rating, down 26% from the 0.34 rating in 2011. Nielsen said 218,000 people viewed the 2012 race.

That's right up there with Grand Am - success!

:rolleyes:

[gerhard911]

Well, they tried to be bigger than NA$CAR (and F1) and failed miserably :tony:

So the next level of suckcess would be GrandSham, I guess :rolleyes:

Rollerderby have higher ratings ? :\

[G.]

As a main instigator at smackedforum.net I have to defend it. And, at the same time defend OffCamber, Crapwagon and even the new breed and more open fans at TrackForum and other forums.


And, just like at smackedforum, I can only comprehend what your point is (on average) about every third sentence.

:p

:gomer::kiss

[stroker]

Well IndyCars attempt to turn into the Grand Am of open wheel seems to be bearing fruit. The crowd at Barber was worthy of a Grand Am race and now the tv rating are in. Nielsen reports the race at Barber on ex-Versus drew a 0.25 TV rating, down 26% from the 0.34 rating in 2011. Nielsen said 218,000 people viewed the 2012 race.

That's right up there with Grand Am - success!

:rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=arZdeg_fL-I&vq=medium

how do you guys insert video instead of a link? I can't figure it out... me stoopid...

[Ziggy]

Good Post MoCartt :thumbup:

[TravelGal]

Some people just don't get it. Many of us simply aren't interested in what calls itself Indycar. No amount of name changes, lipstick, makeup, or shell games will alter the fact that it is a corpse and needs to be buried. the stench of the Hulman George folly is impermeable.
Put a bullet in the head of this zombie and start over. It is that simple.
If you choose to think otherwise that is your perogative. Just quit trying to convince us to tag along. There are other forums for that. You aren't going to change our minds. Please move along and quit bothering us.


Good Post MoCartt :thumbup:

:thumbup: and :thumbup:

[grungex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=arZdeg_fL-I&vq=medium

how do you guys insert video instead of a link? I can't figure it out... me stoopid...

Take the gibberish bit from your link between "v=" and "&vq", and put into youtube tags as follows. (youtube)arZdeg_fL-I(/youtube)

But instead of the parentheses, use square brackets [ ]

[ youtube]arZdeg_fL-I[ /youtube] -- without the spaces, this becomes:

arZdeg_fL-I

If you're still confused, click quote on this message, and you'll see the actual link.

[SurfaceUnits]

Well IndyCars attempt to turn into the Grand Am of open wheel seems to be bearing fruit. The crowd at Barber was worthy of a Grand Am race and now the tv rating are in. Nielsen reports the race at Barber on ex-Versus drew a 0.25 TV rating, down 26% from the 0.34 rating in 2011. Nielsen said 218,000 people viewed the 2012 race.

That's right up there with Grand Am - success!

:rolleyes:

dayaam,,,its a good thing they got all them new fans during the super bowl hoop-lah or the ratings would have been even more dismaller....I think Canadian Womens Curling League was on at the same time.

ROTFLMAO at you 2 or 3 who try to put a positive light on the leeg

[dando]

Well IndyCars attempt to turn into the Grand Am of open wheel seems to be bearing fruit. The crowd at Barber was worthy of a Grand Am race and now the tv rating are in. Nielsen reports the race at Barber on ex-Versus drew a 0.25 TV rating, down 26% from the 0.34 rating in 2011. Nielsen said 218,000 people viewed the 2012 race.

That's right up there with Grand Am - success!

:rolleyes:

Which may also include my 'eyeballs' since I still have a season pass active from last season. I've yet to watch more than a minute of it when I switched channels to it by accident.

-Kevin

[SurfaceUnits]

News to me

The St. Pete TV audience dropped 25% from last year, and that 0.9 rating on ABC is surely a good sign that things are way more awesomer than ever

[Elmo T]

It is all Danica's fault :rolleyes::

IndyCar Series plans exit strategy A.D. ... after Danica (http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_20354397/indycar-series-plans-exit-strategy-d-after-danica)

But not THAT EXIT strategy.

[Chief]

Wow, who woulda thunk there is no exit strategy! ssdd :laugh:

[SurfaceUnits]

Some numerals showing a 0.18 Final overnight for Barber

[stroker]

Some numerals showing a 0.18 Final overnight for Barber

We need to start an Izod Futility Thread...

[NismoZ]

So, the Rolex had a .25, DOWN 26% from last year...and SuperCrapCar nailed down a .18!? Wow...I wonder if Barber makes anything on the weekend? Maybe Rolex gets the Sunday race next year? I wonder what actual attendance was.

[High Sided]

nascar was down too. 4.3 (6.8 million) vs last years 4.4 (7.2 million) for martinsville. :gomer:

[SteveH]

I can't find the article I saw following the Barber race but attendance was down this year by a few thousand. That article cited a specific number.

This article (http://www.jpindycarthoughts.blogspot.com/)just confirms it was down.

[SurfaceUnits]

We need to start an Izod Futility Thread...

I had one last year for all the races they didn't bother to send their trackside rep. Like 60-70% no show

[Chief]

I can't find the article I saw following the Barber race but attendance was down this year by a few thousand. That article cited a specific number.

Raceday was down, weekend up...that's what my sources say.

Record Saturday Crowd for Grand Am, Contenental Series (http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2012/03/barber_motorsports_saturday_ra.html)

Grand Am TV Ratings UP at Barber, IRLcarz plummet to 0.18 (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/04/barber_tv_ratings_indycar_down.html)

Sunday crowd smaller, Weekend Up (http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/04/dixons_second_--_again_--_but.html)

Oh the FUTILITY of it all.... :laugh:

[NismoZ]

That ices it, then! Rolex is the headliner next year! Hope IndyCar doesn't ruin the track surface for the main event!:laugh: I wonder which series gives Chip the best bang for the buck?

[gerhard911]

TI wonder which series gives Chip the best bang for the buck?

Methinks NA$CAR would be the only one with an actual +ROI. GrandAm's probably a giveaway to his cab sponsors and he most likely begs to put logos on the crapwagon :eek:

[datachicane]

Buncha haters.

The only thing standing between this series and greatness is an open, published rulebook, an end to arbitrary exclusive supplier practices, an open, competitive technical specification, governance independent of a certain track and golf course complex in Indiana (with a non-voting board seat for Tony George, who will be required to wear a very small funny hat during all board meetings), public execution of all marketing staff (and possibly their families), the return of a significant majority of the fans who have been driven off and/or died of natural causes during the last 16 years (this may require mass amnesia, large quantities of psychotropic pharmaceuticals and/or an extraordinary supernatural event), and for NASCAR to successfully lure a reigning WDC (whereupon the evil dwarf would be motivated to give Bruton Smith a friendly call reminding him of his indispensable and underrepresented place in U.S. motorsports, resulting in the USGP of TMS and the founding of the Stockish Racing LEaGue).


We're just this close. :thumbup:

[stroker]

Buncha haters.

The only thing standing between this series and greatness is an open, published rulebook, an end to arbitrary exclusive supplier practices, an open, competitive technical specification, governance independent of a certain track and golf course complex in Indiana (with a non-voting board seat for Tony George, who will be required to wear a very small funny hat during all board meetings), public execution of all marketing staff (and possibly their families), the return of a significant majority of the fans who have been driven off and/or died of natural causes during the last 16 years (this may require mass amnesia, large quantities of psychotropic pharmaceuticals and/or an extraordinary supernatural event), and for NASCAR to successfully lure a reigning WDC (whereupon the evil dwarf would be motivated to give Bruton Smith a friendly call reminding him of his indispensable and underrepresented place in U.S. motorsports, resulting in the USGP of TMS and the founding of the Stockish Racing LEaGue).


We're just this close. :thumbup:

Is that all? Hell, we're only 17, 18 years away from that!

[gerhard911]

oPwrodxghrw

:tony:

[Don Quixote]

Buncha haters.

The only thing standing between this series and greatness is an open, published rulebook, an end to arbitrary exclusive supplier practices, an open, competitive technical specification, governance independent of a certain track and golf course complex in Indiana (with a non-voting board seat for Tony George, who will be required to wear a very small funny hat during all board meetings), public execution of all marketing staff (and possibly their families), the return of a significant majority of the fans who have been driven off and/or died of natural causes during the last 16 years (this may require mass amnesia, large quantities of psychotropic pharmaceuticals and/or an extraordinary supernatural event), and for NASCAR to successfully lure a reigning WDC (whereupon the evil dwarf would be motivated to give Bruton Smith a friendly call reminding him of his indispensable and underrepresented place in U.S. motorsports, resulting in the USGP of TMS and the founding of the Stockish Racing LEaGue).


We're just this close. :thumbup:You left out the segway.....

http://photos.vectortrust.com/pages/Indy_Racing_League_IRL/images/tony-george-1.jpg

[SurfaceUnits]

Well wudda you know, its not the media partner's fault


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[Chief]

Bunch of Fabrizio Del Monte's over at IMS headquarters. :rofl: