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Rogue Leader
04-24-12, 01:11 PM
http://www.indycar.com/en/News/2012/April/4-24-Lotus-drops-two-teams

Seriously, you realize now your engines suck and 2 teams are left holding the ball?

Honda and Chevy have already said they can't support more teams. I guess MSR and Paul Tracy are just never showing up.

Interested to see how this shitshow plays out.
cameraman
04-24-12, 01:33 PM
Michel Jourdain Jr is going to drive for Rahal Letterman at Indy:saywhat::rolleyes:
Chief
04-24-12, 01:35 PM
“Lotus in IndyCar is like David versus Goliath,” Berro said. “We are and always will be a niche British sports car company built for the few, not the many. That said, I’m delighted with our solution and I can assure everybody that the actions were taken after careful consideration and will assist in ensuring the brand’s high racing ambitions and the high expectations of the IndyCar community are realized.”

Bwahahhaaha! Goliath is kicking some serious ***.:rofl::p This is GRATE news for the IRL! Should solidly cement (shoe) the Indy 500! :thumbup:
gerhard911
04-24-12, 02:10 PM
“Lotus in IndyCar is like David versus Goliath" :saywhat:

ummm, not so much in the past

http://image.motortrend.com/f/9745890+w786+ar1/112_0804_04z+jim_clark+1965_indy_500.jpg

That rumbling you hear is Colin rolling in his grave :shakehead
Andrew Longman
04-24-12, 02:38 PM
INDYCAR will work with Bryan Herta Autosport and Dreyer & Reinbold Racing during the transition to either the Chevrolet or Honda engine for the Open Test at Texas Motor Speedway, the Indianapolis 500 and beyond.

So assuming they can actually get a Chevy or Honda engines, Herta and D&R see this as a pretty good thing, right? Got to be happier than the remaining Lotus teams. ;)
DagoFast
04-24-12, 02:45 PM
http://image.motortrend.com/f/9745890+w786+ar1/112_0804_04z+jim_clark+1965_indy_500.jpg



Man, that pic sure had to pizzle a bunch of gomers back when it was taken. That's right where it all started to go wrong for them.

And its exactly where it really started to capture my and many others attention.
dando
04-24-12, 03:07 PM
Honda and Chevy have already said they can't support more teams. I guess MSR and Paul Tracy are just never showing up.


I think that was already a forgone conclusion. :( My manager has contacts on the team, and they were not optimistic about getting a lump for the 497.5.

UPDATE: MSR apparently has Howard signed and is working on a deal with Chevy.

-Kevin
Andrew Longman
04-24-12, 07:24 PM
Man, that pic sure had to pizzle a bunch of gomers back when it was taken. That's right where it all started to go wrong for them.

And its exactly where it really started to capture my and many others attention.I was just a kid when that picture was taken and I long assumed the innovation in that car, and international competitors was SUPPOSED to be much of what Indy is about.

I was hugely confused by the 1979 USAC dust up. I absolutely was bewildered when TG formed the IRL, but just figured it was a usual business power play that would be settled by hard nosed rational economic thinking.

It really wasn't until the Internet that I had unfiltered access to the true Gomerriffic world view and a full appreciation. And I've gone to all type of races all over the country. I lived in MI for a long time and had true Midwesterner parents. There simply is nothing like pure gomercentric place fans. I simply couldn't conceive of that much simple, provincial stupid... Especially in a sport and business that by design and nature is supposed to be a meritocracy of the highest order.
Methanolandbrats
04-24-12, 08:42 PM
**** dooder, that was almost Shakespearian prose :D
Indy
04-24-12, 10:55 PM
Damn, that is a great photo.
MoCartt
04-25-12, 08:15 AM
Three thumbs up for DagoFast for not only the photo, but what it all meant.

And to Andrew for capturing the characteristics of the people from the province.

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
cart7
04-27-12, 04:12 PM
Are those the spinner wheel nuts that extend out at the push of a button and shred competitors tires?

BTW, how about those green jumpsuits.. with no undershirts even!! :eek:


nice photo. A Beautiful & proper race car.
dando
04-27-12, 05:25 PM
To do this day, I can't believe those mirrors worked. :gomer:

-Kevin
gerhard911
04-27-12, 06:49 PM
Well, "those mirrors" did not work. That mirror (right side only) apparently was sufficient for Mr. Clark. AJ probably needed two :gomer:
Mary
04-28-12, 01:08 PM
Fantastic picture. It has always amazed me that gomers tried to "fix" something in the 1990s that they lost in the 1960s. I guess it is too late, but they really need to stop playing with the space-time continuum.

Andrew, not really about IndyCar but your elegant post explains in part why I moved to the northeast 25 years ago this upcoming Thursday. I can't take all the midwest out of me (don't really want to; perspective is good to have) but I damned well could take me out of the midwest.

Mary
Chief
07-23-12, 09:47 AM
Lotus OUT in 2013 (http://http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-lotus-exiting-at-the-end-of-2012/) :rofl:
opinionated ow
07-23-12, 10:00 AM
Lotus OUT in 2013 (http://http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-lotus-exiting-at-the-end-of-2012/) :rofl:

maybe the swiss hottie might not come last then...
TravelGal
07-23-12, 11:12 AM
maybe the swiss hottie might not come last then...

Poor Simona.

Was Lotus ever really IN? I don't think so.

Oh, and linky no worky but the headline is enough.
cameraman
07-23-12, 11:55 AM
Lotus OUT in 2013 (http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-lotus-exiting-at-the-end-of-2012/) :rofl:

Fixxered
Chief
07-23-12, 12:00 PM
thx
NismoZ
07-23-12, 12:46 PM
They coudda been a contendah.
Rogue Leader
07-23-12, 02:50 PM
Wow... big surprise
TravelGal
07-23-12, 09:18 PM
Fixxered

"Breaking that contract with the series is expected to carry a significant financial penalty." Blood from a turnip? Hope Indycar isn't looking to this 'significant' penalty to shore up its finances. :shakehead
Methanolandbrats
07-23-12, 09:22 PM
"Breaking that contract with the series is expected to carry a significant financial penalty." Blood from a turnip? Hope Indycar isn't looking to this 'significant' penalty to shore up its finances. :shakehead

MIndy car can't afford high end international lawyers, Lotus should tell them to **** off.
opinionated ow
07-23-12, 09:39 PM
"Breaking that contract with the series is expected to carry a significant financial penalty." Blood from a turnip? Hope Indycar isn't looking to this 'significant' penalty to shore up its finances. :shakehead
Making engine companies sign a supply contract with the sanctioning body in an era of engine competition is to my mind completely ludicrous...
Easy
07-25-12, 08:38 PM
Making engine companies sign a supply contract with the sanctioning body in an era of engine competition is to my mind completely ludicrous...

All (serious) series with official MFR involvement have contracts.
NismoZ
07-27-12, 01:39 PM
So, which Lotus is/was this, anyway? Good Lotus? Bad Lotus? Old Lotus? New Lotus? Lotus Racing? Team Lotus. Same as F -1 Lotus? Seriously, who makes a "Lotus" IndyCar engine? Flown in from the UK? A new factory in Indy!?
SteveH
07-27-12, 02:31 PM
So, which Lotus is/was this, anyway? Good Lotus? Bad Lotus? Old Lotus? New Lotus? Lotus Racing? Team Lotus. Same as F -1 Lotus? Seriously, who makes a "Lotus" IndyCar engine? Flown in from the UK? A new factory in Indy!?

Judd makes the Indy lump(s)
cameraman
07-27-12, 02:52 PM
So, which Lotus is/was this, anyway? Good Lotus? Bad Lotus? Old Lotus? New Lotus? Lotus Racing? Team Lotus. Same as F -1 Lotus? Seriously, who makes a "Lotus" IndyCar engine? Flown in from the UK? A new factory in Indy!?

Tont Fernandes changed his team to Caterham but kept the dark green/yellow livery. There's only one Lotus now.