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SteveH
08-24-22, 10:37 PM
https://i.redd.it/pfqyajdfipj91.jpg

Grateful Dead 1974
Three stories high, 100 feet wide and weighed 75 tons with 6 independent sound systems using 11 separate channels. Each speaker carried on,y one instrument or vocal.

RaceGrrl
08-29-22, 11:55 AM
https://i.redd.it/pfqyajdfipj91.jpg

Grateful Dead 1974
Three stories high, 100 feet wide and weighed 75 tons with 6 independent sound systems using 11 separate channels. Each speaker carried on,y one instrument or vocal.

That makes my ears hurt just looking at it!!

indyfan31
08-30-22, 02:10 PM
That makes my ears hurt just looking at it!!

. . . because of how loud it would be, or because it's the Grateful Dead? :D

datachicane
09-06-22, 07:31 PM
. . . because of how loud it would be, or because it's the Grateful Dead? :D

Hey now. I scheduled my annual haircuts for years based on their touring schedule.

SteveH
09-08-22, 02:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/jQ2PBLl_d.webp?maxwidth=760&fidelity=grand

RIP Queen Elizabeth.

A monarch longer (but just barely) than I’ve been alive.

TravelGal
09-10-22, 01:00 PM
That's an interesting diagram. It got me reading up on what constitutes a "British Isle." Fascinating. I really hadn't thought about that term in years. It's not quite as simple as shown there but nothing ever is.

nrc
09-16-22, 08:03 PM
Wow. That's frigthening.

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https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1570829218111688708

TravelGal
09-16-22, 08:49 PM
Wow. But corroborates all the stories I've heard about incredibly shoddy Chinese building construction. They throw 'em up fast but they fall down or in this case :(

nrc
09-18-22, 01:22 PM
Yes, I've seen a lot of stories about the problem with construction quality in China. The Chinese consider real estate to be one of the best investments so many pay in advance for condos that may never be completed or sometimes are of such poor quality that there uninhabitable after only a few years.

This looks a lot like the Grenfell Tower fire in London and probably spread in a similar way. Suspect cladding materials catch fire and then create a stack affect that engulfs the entire building.

Elmo T
09-19-22, 07:00 AM
There are a lot of factors with these fires, not the least of which is lightweight and highly combustible materials. Or as a designer once told me, the building materials are extremely strong as long as there is no fire - and who designs a building to be on fire. :saywhat:

And enjoy this coming to a city near you:

The race to build wooden skyscrapers (https://www.axios.com/2022/04/26/wooden-skyscrapers-mass-timber)

What you see in the media:



...Why it matters: Lightweight, attractive and sturdy, mass timber buildings are considered carbon-friendly alternatives to conventional ones — and some people prefer their warmth, character and texture....What they're saying: Advocates say mass timber "creates less waste, leaves a lighter carbon footprint (because wood sequesters carbon), and can be quicker and quieter than other construction modes"...Some go so far as to claim that exposed wood has tangible health and wellness benefits for building occupants...

What you see in the trade publications:

How Mass Timber Can Cut Your Construction Costs (https://www.thinkwood.com/blog/how-mass-timber-can-cut-construction-costs)


Cross-laminated timber is not cheap. It is more expensive per unit than steel or concrete. The savings comes in reduced labor costs. The number of construction workers required on-site is cut in half


What is funny is that the same builder industry that fights against fire sprinklers in many occupancies is now embracing them so that they can use wood for these tall mass timber buildings.

I do see the benefit and it could likely be done in a safer manner. But it will require not only a change to the building codes but also a change in our lackadaisical approach to fire safety practices.

SteveH
09-20-22, 09:39 PM
43 years ago today Pennie Smith took this picture of the Clash at the New York Paladium.

https://i.redd.it/watgyd4r51p91.jpg

It might look familiar

https://i.discogs.com/T7wMC50rMiH2QWVaozi2rvDXSme7ZU3Lww2R9OLox7w/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:594/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTM3ODY5/OC0xNDA3MTU4ODA5/LTI2MDguanBlZw.jpeg

nrc
09-23-22, 01:07 AM
And enjoy this coming to a city near you:

The race to build wooden skyscrapers (https://www.axios.com/2022/04/26/wooden-skyscrapers-mass-timber)



I saw a surprisingly tall stick frame apartment complex going up downtown a while back. It reminded me of the Architect Sketch from Monty Python.

"I mean, providing the tenants are of light build and relatively sedentary and er, given a spot of good weather, I think we're on to a winner here."


https://youtu.be/QfArEGCm7yM?t=245

SteveH
09-25-22, 09:03 PM
https://i.redd.it/yhz1na2v50q91.jpg

stroker
09-26-22, 07:12 AM
Who is "NM"...?

Elmo T
09-26-22, 09:07 AM
Who is "NM"...?

North Macedonia...

(I had to Google up "flags of the world")

stroker
09-27-22, 07:03 AM
Tnx.

I'm half surprised the Chinese aren't there vacuuming up all the scrap steel from the destroyed vehicles...

opinionated ow
09-28-22, 03:50 AM
North Macedonia...

(I had to Google up "flags of the world")

Formerly known as Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia

nrc
10-09-22, 02:42 AM
This picture is black & white.

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https://www.sciencealert.com/crazy-optical-illusion-makes-your-brain-see-colour-in-a-black-and-white-photo

swift
10-10-22, 03:49 PM
This picture is black & white.


https://www.sciencealert.com/crazy-optical-illusion-makes-your-brain-see-colour-in-a-black-and-white-photo

From my monitor @720p resolution it looks like Sarah Silverman copying Sebastien Bourdais' homework.

SteveH
10-11-22, 09:21 AM
From my monitor @720p resolution it looks like Sarah Silverman copying Sebastien Bourdais' homework.

the only correct answer :rofl:

SteveH
10-13-22, 03:14 PM
At home in 1962
https://i.redd.it/ib7ou777ejt91.jpg

SteveH
10-21-22, 10:19 PM
https://i.redd.it/btddlgyfa9v91.jpg

Look at the cost!

nrc
10-22-22, 12:19 AM
Blast from the past. I've been to their old facility (address on the ad) a few times. A data center company owns it now.

I was fortunate back in the mid '80s to have access to USENET and various other precursors to the Internet through work so I didn't find the joy of spending money on consumer network services until 1988 when GEnie (GE's CompuServe competitor) introduced an online combat flight simulator called Air Warrior. GEnie was only $5.00 a month but Air Warrior cost $10 per hour. That got painful in a hurry. :eek:

nrc
10-22-22, 12:22 AM
'Merka! **** yeah!

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https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/status/1583613064414638081

nrc
10-24-22, 11:32 AM
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SteveH
10-24-22, 01:26 PM
Or this….
Climate protesters glue themselves to Porsche museum but needed to go potty
https://www.autoblog.com/2022/10/21/climate-protesters-glue-themselves-to-porsche-museum-germany/?guccounter=1

https://s.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/1062x597/quality/85/https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims3/GLOB/legacy_thumbnail/1062x597/format/jpg/quality/100/https://s.aolcdn.com/os/ab/_cms/2022/10/21130445/scientist_rebellion_autostadt.jpg

nrc
11-03-22, 02:18 AM
Like a scene out of a science fiction movie...

https://twitter.com/Stuck4ger/status/1587446533724803072

Elmo T
11-03-22, 06:43 AM
Like a scene out of a science fiction movie...

https://twitter.com/Stuck4ger/status/1587446533724803072

It is the landing nowadays that fascinates me. Forget access to see the launch, I want
a seat near the landing.

SteveH
11-03-22, 08:31 PM
It is the landing nowadays that fascinates me. Forget access to see the launch, I want
a seat near the landing.

I agree Elmo, that’s just incredible

SteveH
12-14-22, 06:40 PM
https://i.imgur.com/e8lojK3.jpeg

opinionated ow
12-16-22, 03:06 AM
https://i.imgur.com/e8lojK3.jpeg

And even that doesn't tell the full story because:
*Toyota owns 5% of Mazda
*Toyota owns about 5% of Suzuki
*Toyota owns 20% of Subaru Corporation (formerly known as Fuji Heavy Industries-the owner of Subaru Motor Company)
*Porsche owns 45% of Bugatti-Rimac which is the parent company of both brands (rather than Rimac in its own right)

SteveH
01-04-23, 10:44 AM
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Longest-Lasting-Cars-infographic.jpg

SteveH
01-17-23, 11:18 PM
https://i.redd.it/n9gv0ryvvpca1.jpg

TravelGal
01-18-23, 12:55 PM
Just saw the 200,000 mile graph. I sure hope so. My Accord has just over 30,000 miles in 8 years. So by the time it gives out we'll have flying cars directed by our thought waves. Which will be a good thing since I'll be up there navigating with the angels (I hope!)

SteveH
02-25-23, 10:23 AM
https://twitter.com/ilove_aviation/status/1628954481319636992?s=57&t=hn05TK0p-eU1ft5fyD4ZjQ

SteveH
04-29-23, 06:50 PM
Now you know

https://i.redd.it/4i044q2b7swa1.jpg

Elmo T
05-01-23, 07:33 AM
I will hazmat geek out for a moment :rolleyes::laugh:- I teach hazmat for the local FD's and that is a pretty solid explanation. That style of marking is for bulk storage tanks and for entrances to rooms/buildings that store hazardous materials.

More commonly seen is the Global Harmonization Symbols for packages, drums, and noted on paperwork. These are much easier to understand at 3AM (versus the diamonds and numbers).

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And only because the gov't likes to complicate things, there is an entirely different system used for transport of hazardous materials (trucks, train cars, etc). :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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SteveH
06-05-23, 09:27 PM
Deadwood SD 1887
https://i.redd.it/ftwjaocax74b1.jpg

SteveH
06-06-23, 10:57 PM
https://i.redd.it/21vwwuwx7f4b1.jpg

PGA players upon hearing the news of the LIV merger.

WickerBill
06-07-23, 08:19 AM
Deadwood SD 1887
https://i.redd.it/ftwjaocax74b1.jpg

Love this picture. So much to see and decipher.

SteveH
06-07-23, 10:06 AM
Decipher the water barrels on the roof of some of the buildings. My guess is a form of fire protection. Or maybe actual running water. But putting those on the roof full of water would be an enormous task.

nrc
06-07-23, 10:50 AM
Decipher the water barrels on the roof of some of the buildings. My guess is a form of fire protection. Or maybe actual running water. But putting those on the roof full of water would be an enormous task.

Yeah, I looked into that. This article claims it's a fire suppression precaution that was commonly found at train stations. It make sense that they might adopt something similar in a dry climate where embers from a chimney could start a fire on a dry roof.

https://unrememberedhistory.com/2017/06/09/roof-top-barrels-served-a-practical-purpose/

nrc
06-07-23, 11:36 AM
Also, I was wondering about the clocks and how they wound them. Then I noticed that the one the foreground is just a sign, not a real clock. But the one in the background looks like a real clock. Maybe it was suspended so they could lower and wind it.

devilmaster
06-07-23, 11:49 AM
Yeah, I looked into that. This article claims it's a fire suppression precaution that was commonly found at train stations. It make sense that they might adopt something similar in a dry climate where embers from a chimney could start a fire on a dry roof.

https://unrememberedhistory.com/2017/06/09/roof-top-barrels-served-a-practical-purpose/

Damn. And here i thought it was just rainwater collection.

Elmo T
06-08-23, 07:47 AM
this article claims it's a fire suppression precaution that was commonly found at train stations.

As a train nerd and fire service professional, this was new to me. Have to love OC as the repository for all knowledge. ;):rofl:

I was trying to see if all the buildings have them - doesn't look like it. Seems like the bank and post office have them which makes perfect sense.

TravelGal
06-15-23, 01:43 PM
As a train nerd and fire service professional, this was new to me. Have to love OC as the repository for all knowledge. ;):rofl:

I was trying to see if all the buildings have them - doesn't look like it. Seems like the bank and post office have them which makes perfect sense.

Most of the buildings on the right have them. I'm going with multi-purpose. Fire suppression maybe; drinking water probably; bathing water (extra income), possibly.

SteveH
06-19-23, 02:37 PM
https://i.redd.it/r84tskqdbz6b1.jpg

Frazier/Ali "Fight of the Century" 1971

Elmo T
06-21-23, 11:05 AM
I love these old race photos from the Library of Congress. Easy to fall down that rabbit hole.

https://www.loc.gov/


[View from grandstand at Vanderbilt automobile race]

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Bob McDonough, Laurel race, [7/11/25]

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SteveH
06-30-23, 06:16 PM
https://twitter.com/ilove_aviation/status/1674569565634957312?s=61&t=oFXcsN2wTfApq6UdUB40Qg

TravelGal
07-03-23, 04:44 PM
Wonder when that was taken. I looked up Cotswold Airport and found this lovely piece from two years ago. https://simpleflying.com/inside-cotswold-airport/

SteveH
08-21-23, 04:43 PM
https://i.redd.it/8nlc9vanghjb1.jpg

TravelGal
08-22-23, 02:56 PM
Errr, the only surprise for me there was naptha because I don't really know anything about it except my mother using Fels Naptha for something to do with laundry, I think ???

SteveH
08-22-23, 04:07 PM
Errr, the only surprise for me there was naptha because I don't really know anything about it except my mother using Fels Naptha for something to do with laundry, I think ???

Now that you mention it, I recall my grandmother using that also

Still there
Still there
Fels-Naptha Laundry Detergent Bar Soap and Stain Remover Bundle - Includes 1 (5-ounce) Fels-Naptha Laundry Bar, Bamboo Soap Holder, Sisal Soap Bag, DIY Laundry Detergent Recipe by Foxtail Collective https://a.co/d/cG9kn9i

cameraman
08-22-23, 05:32 PM
But the naptha has been removed from Fels-Naptha soap because naptha is carcinogenic.

nrc
08-22-23, 11:06 PM
Is there a non-oil derived option for purple hair dye? If you're gluing yourself to some great work of art to protest oil production having petrochemicals in your hair wouldn't be a good look.

nrc
09-16-23, 02:09 PM
A book cover that will live in infamy.

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https://www.amazon.com/Pearl-Harbor-Date-Infamy-December/dp/B0CHG8SZSC

So many questions.

Ok, it's a grandson who wants his grandfather's story of being at Pearl Habor to be told, so all due respect for that.

I'm prone to fall for this because I see so many cases of "these kids today" commenting on history where they have no real knowledge. Did someone just AI generate a book cover? It seems like even AI would do better than that.

I have to wonder if it's just a deliberate effort to gain viral attention for the book. The joke is too obvious.

SteveH
09-16-23, 05:39 PM
V8lT1o0sDwI?si=uu9x-fT5AEXUTOec

TravelGal
09-19-23, 03:22 PM
It seems like I saw this before. In any case, I'm seeing a lot of what has to be AI generated stuff in travel. Sentences that don't QUITE make sense and, of course, homonyms misused galore. I just can't bare it. Well, I wouldn't anyway. :rolleyes:

SteveH
09-20-23, 09:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/dnNl2EY.png

SteveH
12-02-23, 02:02 PM
1975, last picture of Larry Fine and Moe Howard together

https://i.redd.it/2y24080wuw3c1.jpg


Larry died on January 24, 1975, and Moe on May 4th, 1975. Larry's cause of death was a stroke, while Moe, who had been a heavy smoker, died of lung cancer.

SteveH
12-13-23, 10:02 AM
https://i.redd.it/oo55tzm8v16c1.jpg

SteveH
12-13-23, 02:42 PM
https://i.redd.it/4fbgj9o3736c1.jpg

TravelGal
12-14-23, 12:57 PM
Colorado I get maybe but Idaho? All three people like Indycar?

SteveH
01-05-24, 05:05 PM
https://i.imgur.com/YOG97De.jpeg

SteveH
01-05-24, 05:06 PM
https://i.redd.it/shb9oyw7unac1.jpeg
XB-70 Valkyrie and YF-12A side by side

SteveH
02-18-24, 09:26 PM
https://i.redd.it/16jmya7c5ejc1.jpeg

Taken on July 7, 2007

The day before the 787 was released

stroker
02-19-24, 09:38 AM
Hell, I never even heard of a 717 before...

SteveH
02-19-24, 10:02 AM
It was from McDonnell Douglas. Originally designed as the MD-95, a shortened version of the MD-80. Went into production after the merger. I loved the MD-80s, all the noise behind you although if you sat in the back of the cabin it was loud.

nrc
02-20-24, 04:33 AM
it was from mcdonnell douglas. Originally designed as the md-95, a shortened version of the md-80. Went into production after the merger. I loved the md-80s, all the noise behind you although if you sat in the back of the cabin it was loud.

Seems like i always ended up in the back.

stroker
02-20-24, 08:20 AM
Ah. So it was an adopted DC-9, then...?

opinionated ow
02-26-24, 07:16 PM
Ah. So it was an adopted DC-9, then...?

I think the official certified designation is DC-9-95. Interestingly 717 was a reused number as Boeing originally used it as the name for the military planes (c-135 etc) derived from the Dash 80 prototype that the 707 was also derived from.

SteveH
04-21-24, 02:30 PM
https://i.redd.it/x670k81hauvc1.jpeg

SteveH
05-03-24, 05:31 PM
https://i.redd.it/nbm46nzv57yc1.jpeg

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_Elephant_Mountain_B-52_crash


Approximately 22 minutes later, just after passing Brownville Junction in the center of Maine, the aircraft encountered turbulence. When the pilot and crew commander, Westover's Most Senior Standardization Instructor Pilot, started to climb above it, the vertical stabilizer came off the plane with a "loud noise sounding like an explosion".[3][5] Having suffered severe damage, the B-52C went into a 40-degree right turn, with nose pointed downward. The pilot gave the order to abandon the aircraft when he could not level it.[2][4]

nrc
05-04-24, 01:30 AM
Behold the Antarctic Snow Cruiser! The future of Antarctic exploration!
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/antarctic-snow-cruiser-photos/
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I'm not sure how they didn't figure out that those smooth tires would be a problem.

SteveH
05-09-24, 12:12 PM
https://i.redd.it/c8shfs23bezc1.jpeg

SteveH
05-09-24, 12:12 PM
https://i.redd.it/4fr87qyoaezc1.jpeg

SteveH
05-14-24, 08:29 PM
https://i.redd.it/3lasusl4xd0d1.jpeg

nrc
05-16-24, 08:37 PM
That's cool. I was trying to think of anything not in there. I came up with steppe and maybe tundra.

SteveH
05-16-24, 09:05 PM
Bluff?

SteveH
05-18-24, 12:29 PM
https://i.redd.it/e1j611mn971d1.jpeg

SteveH
05-19-24, 09:47 PM
https://i.redd.it/n4uixokkuf1d1.jpeg

nrc
05-22-24, 12:21 AM
Bluff?

Points.

Knoll?

nrc
05-22-24, 12:23 AM
https://i.redd.it/e1j611mn971d1.jpeg

Did I mention that we went to a beer tasting at a friend's place for Saint Paddy's day? Still revolting.

Elmo T
07-02-24, 01:58 PM
OVER THE CARIBBEAN - Inside the eye of Category 5 Hurricane (https://x.com/NOAA_HurrHunter/status/1808193121861488831)

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SteveH
07-04-24, 09:51 PM
https://i.redd.it/xij81qub0lad1.jpeg