Alt. headline: Thank God Barnhart's not running things anymore

[Racing Truth]

B/c he'd turn a blind eye to most of this. (http://www.racer.com/major-indycar-chassis-updates-safety-improvements-coming-in-2014/article/326601/)

I'm not going to agree w/ everything Walker does, but I TRUST him.:thumbup:

I do hope they put in the new underwing by Indy, though. Why risk it, if it can be avoided?

[Chief]

What are you talking about? You're validating EVERYTHING everyone has ever said about this piece of crap DW12. IMS management is corrupt and incompetent, the new car is junk and the old car's issues were ignored until it killed at least 3 drivers and maimed dozens of others over 8 years. And yes, blame it all on F1/FIA standards. All from a car that was designed by a committee made up from almost 100% NON RACING DRIVERS.

This also illustrates the blindness of devoted fans and followers of the Indy cult, who love hindsight and revisionism.

Yet another black eye for the tainted and waste-soiled Clown Car series...frankly couldn't have happened to better bunch of idiots, IMHO. :thumbup:

[G.]

but one thing we don't want is to add any more steering drag, because at high-speed tracks some of our current drivers have a difficulty in actually turning the wheel because the downforce is so high.
On one hand, find a different career.

On the other,

Walker noted. “Why do we want to reduce the downforce? Well, there's always some drivers that say we've got too much aero and not enough engine power.everybody except gomers say there's "too much aero and not enough engine power." Welcome to the innernets, circa a long time ago.


Walker explained. “And, of course, as we all know, in very unique situations it creates lift. The larger the bottom, the more lift you get.
What ever happened to "our cars don't fly"? :)

Summary: They ignore everyone, eventually decide to do something, and then do it wrong. But that's ok, as long as it's spec and little girls can steer.

I TRUST that they'll **** this up just as bad as they always do.

[G.]

Question: will the Patch that-is-not-a-band-aid add extra fugly to the car? I hope so!

Question2: Why is Walker talking about future plans like this? :tin-foil: So that it's documented in the press, and that the Idiots in charge MUST act on it in some way.
Just wait; they'll figure out a way to skip the Patch (the one semi-redeeming part of the article) and never speak of it again. First they have to replace Walker (for personal reasons, spend time with family, etc.) :/tin-foil:

[cameraman]

Well Walker has a brain and is pretty much a stand up guy so he'll probably do his best to make it safer as there really isn't anything he can do to make it suck less. He is doing the best he can within a truly ****ed up series.

[Chief]

HaY, why isn't Dallara doing the fixes? Is the already 2015 approved body kit gonna fit over the 'patch'? And what about the ugly minimal sidepods? The patch might not be neccessary if there was other structure there to absorb a good T-boning.

And what about them stupid bumpers and undertray ramps that got Dario's bell rung by Sato? The DW12 always looked too rigid so they are gonna use aluminum for front suspension parts. More yellows, more red flags and tow-ins. BRILLIANT! LOL only in the IRL! Doing less with moar less, always. :laugh:

[Gnam]

The previous Dallara was an ugly, back-breaking, flying POS and the IRL did nothing to fix it. They wouldn't even admit there was a problem.

The article says that Indycar saw a problem, paid for the R&D, and required the teams to update their cars to the new spec. That is a BIG change from the old way of doing business, which was: deny, deny, deny, send flowers and condolences, then deny some more.

IMO the car is still ugly, but it will be safer than it was last year. You could never say that about the old car.

[Racing Truth]

The previous Dallara was an ugly, back-breaking, flying POS and the IRL did nothing to fix it. They wouldn't even admit there was a problem.

The article says that Indycar saw a problem, paid for the R&D, and required the teams to update their cars to the new spec. That is a BIG change from the old way of doing business, which was: deny, deny, deny, send flowers and condolences, then deny some more.

IMO the car is still ugly, but it will be safer than it was last year. You could never say that about the old car.

Precisely my point. On the tech. side, it's much more professional and, importantly, responsible than it has been. Marketing/management still has a TON to prove (putting it mildly), but the racing folks don't.

[Gnam]

I would say it's only a first step. As Chief pointed out on the smacked forum thread, the car has proven that it flies and breaks in half. A true solution is to let professionals design, test, and manufacture a brand new car.

[cameraman]

But that's not going to happen so Walker is doing what he can.

[Chief]

Kudos to Walker but he's been dealt a bad hand...why keep playing it? Oh I know why....because they are p!ss poor and can't afford to mothball and retool. That is the exact same reason the DW12 was rushed to race AND the previous generations of Dallaras had nothing but bandaid fixes until it the leeguE could muster the funds (via Recovery Act) to subsidize the cost for the new but cheap and now poorly designed DW12.

Everything this bunch of idiots touches always gets jammed up. At least Walker admits the propensity to get airborne, but too bad he misses the HUGE front wing that massively contributes to flying, now on road courses.

[chop456]

Sort of boggles the mind to think that the Hulman-George family would be better off today if NOBODY had been running things since 1995.

"See that goose over there laying the golden eggs? Watch this!" :tony:

[DagoFast]

Sort of boggles the mind to think that the Hulman-George family would be better off today if NOBODY had been running things since 1995.

"See that goose over there laying the golden eggs? Watch this!" :tony:

Hard to believe CART or any other group could have caused the sport to be completely 100% profitless for 18 years. Only Hulman Racing can accomplish the unpossible.

[Racing Truth]

Kudos to Walker but he's been dealt a bad hand...why keep playing it? Oh I know why....because they are p!ss poor and can't afford to mothball and retool. That is the exact same reason the DW12 was rushed to race AND the previous generations of Dallaras had nothing but bandaid fixes until it the leeguE could muster the funds (via Recovery Act) to subsidize the cost for the new but cheap and now poorly designed DW12.

Everything this bunch of idiots touches always gets jammed up. At least Walker admits the propensity to get airborne, but too bad he misses the HUGE front wing that massively contributes to flying, now on road courses.

Honestly, they didn't really try to band-aid the old car. Not for safety, anyhow.

[Gnam]

The melted car is Indycar.
Walker and Indy fans are trying to get it home.
Chief is the highway patrol telling them to get real.

http://s14.postimg.org/bml9vlre9/planes_trains_automobiles.jpg

[RTKar]

Is the snow tg's coke?

[Mary]

Hard to believe CART or any other group could have caused the sport to be completely 100% profitless for 18 years. Only Hulman Racing can accomplish the unpossible.

Shucks, you forgot that they were saving the sport. Geez! :gomer::laugh::tony:

Mary

[trauma1]

they are giving Dularra a free pass, on the failure of the car, no why this car was up to FIA standard's:shakehead::shakehead::shakehead: