PDA

View Full Version : Not this crap again...



Pages : 1 [2] 3

dando
12-21-15, 06:17 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/20/us/las-vegas-strip-accident/index.html

:saywhat: :shakehead: :irked: :(

nrc
02-12-16, 04:03 PM
Machete attacked Nazareth restaurant owner - "Nobody likes me anyway. Thank God we're in America. Amen to that one."

http://www.dispatch.com/content/pages/video.html?video=/videos/2016/02/12/nazareth-restaurant-owner-describes-attack.xml

dando
03-22-16, 03:24 PM
Speaking of crap...

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/national/eiffel-tower-light-colors-belgian-flag/nqqWM/

:(

Gnam
03-22-16, 07:05 PM
I wish the Euros well, but they don't have what it takes to stop this violence.
Their leaders will convince them to learn to live with it. It's just easier.

gjc2
03-23-16, 06:26 AM
Thank God we're in America.

That says it all.

gjc2
03-23-16, 07:17 AM
Speaking of crap...

http://www.wpxi.com/news/news/national/eiffel-tower-light-colors-belgian-flag/nqqWM/

:(

We need less useless displays of “solidarity” and more action (or some action).

dando
03-23-16, 02:44 PM
We need less useless displays of “solidarity” and more action (or some action).

Well, at least France responded to the attacks by bombing ISIS locations, but it was a short-lived response. Problem with this shizz is these cats are scattered around in cell. Its more of an intel sharing issue, and then taking action.

SteveH
03-23-16, 06:57 PM
ISIS polls supporters to find out what color the Eiffel Tower will be next (http://www.vocativ.com/news/300683/isis-poll-what-will-be-the-color-of-the-eiffel-tower-next/)

:flaming:

dando
03-23-16, 07:35 PM
They let the dogs out in NYC...

http://abc7ny.com/news/heres-how-new-york-city-area-is-responding-to-brussels-terror-attacks/1256868/

TravelGal
03-23-16, 08:16 PM
Well, at least France responded to the attacks by bombing ISIS locations, but it was a short-lived response. Problem with this shizz is these cats are scattered around in cell. Its more of an intel sharing issue, and then taking action.

"Anonymous" is not amused. This may be our best hope as far as the intel goes.

Insomniac
06-13-16, 12:14 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/

More senseless violence and hate. I wish there were rational explanations for why people do this to each other. There's no simple solution to this complex issue, but what # of people have to die before some action is taken. We're up to 49 people.

dando
06-13-16, 12:48 PM
Very distraught. I have several LBTG friends. I'm not, but I support their right to choose. I had a friend 'come out of the closet' several years ago on my front porch. Attended a gay wedding. Very, very sad. I'll be attending the Union Cafe this week in support.

http://shortnorth.org/businesses/union-cafe/

It's also LBTG week in Cbus. I also broke out my LBTG Mickey Ears for the car...


845


:(

Napoleon
06-13-16, 02:37 PM
I had a friend 'come out of the closet' several years ago on my front porch.

At the risk of a lack of decorum by mentioning this, but when I read this I had a visual of the literal meaning of this in my head and it made me laugh. You know, it is a very West Virginia type of a thing to keep your closet on your front porch, likely with a car on blocks in the yard as well.

dando
06-13-16, 03:41 PM
At the risk of a lack of decorum by mentioning this, but when I read this I had a visual of the literal meaning of this in my head and it made me laugh. You know, it is a very West Virginia type of a thing to keep your closet on your front porch, likely with a car on blocks in the yard as well.

My first house...in lovely Dublin, OH...we had a couple move in across the street. He was apparently a bouncer for a local strip club (Vanity?) and parked his limo on the front lawn. :saywhat: :irked: :shakehead: My first trip to WV for a white water raft on the New River was eye opening riding the bus through the back woods to the site. :eek: :gomer:

Napoleon
06-13-16, 04:00 PM
..in lovely Dublin, OH


Dublin, Ohio, the West Virginia of Ohio :)

dando
07-08-16, 01:11 AM
Big D. :shakehead: :saywhat:

Gnam
07-08-16, 01:42 AM
The news says one shooter is barricaded on the second floor of a downtown parking garage and the police are negotiating his surrender. Three other suspects are in custody.

No word on who they are.

nrc
07-08-16, 10:16 AM
Shooter told negotiators that he wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. He also said that "the end is near" so I don't rule out the possibility of a white supremacist attack to escalate racial tensions.

After negotiations failed police killed him by having their bomb robot carry a bomb over to him and detonate it. Priceless. Looks like we need to get ED209 online.

SteveH
07-08-16, 10:54 AM
After negotiations failed police killed him by having their bomb robot carry a bomb over to him and detonate it.

I never had heard of this before. Makes sense however. Wouldn't really take much of a robot to do this. Sort of like a RC car. But with an explosive on board.

Gnam
07-08-16, 11:51 AM
Don't drone me, bro.

It's been a hell of week for "Justice" in America. Rubicons getting crossed all over the place. :(

cameraman
07-08-16, 01:08 PM
Wonderful, it seems the primary shooter was a US Army veteran.


Johnson served as a corporal in the Army Reserve as part of the 284th Engineering Company out of Santa Fe, New Mexico. He previously deployed to Afghanistan.

WickerBill
07-08-16, 01:41 PM
Wonderful, it seems the primary shooter was a US Army veteran.

It doesn't matter if he was to me, and I don't think it should to anyone.

- a few redneck, uneducated, racist policemen should not shed a bad light on all police.
- an angry, bloodthirsty black man should not shed a bad light on all Black Lives Matter vigil-holders.
- a deluded veteran should not shed a bad light on all veterans.


However, in our society of sound bites and generalizations, this is *exactly what is happening*. What happens? Rhetoric gets heard, tension gets ratcheted up, and more people die. More people die, more sound bites....

Napoleon
07-08-16, 02:30 PM
I never had heard of this before. Makes sense however.

This is the first I have heard of it used in something like this. It does make all kinds of sense in this kind of situation.

Napoleon
07-08-16, 02:48 PM
Per the NY Times what Dallas did was repurpose a bomb disposal robot.

http://www.nytimes.com/live/news-dallas-shooting-protest/robot/

Gnam
07-08-16, 04:30 PM
Cleveland is going to be an armed camp. Maybe not tanks in the streets, but definitely lots and lots of guns.

G.
07-08-16, 04:40 PM
I am illogically uncomfortable with sending bombs in to kill suspects.

It's brilliant and all, it just smells too much like Philly '85.


Our cops don't need grenades, even if they are "personally" delivered via video link.

SteveH
07-08-16, 04:54 PM
Are Police Allowed to Robot-Bomb Suspects?
(http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-07-08/are-police-allowed-to-robot-bomb-suspects)


Legal experts says under certain circumstances, the answer probably is yes, though special considerations differentiate killings using robotics and explosives from more common defensive shootings.

nrc
07-08-16, 05:33 PM
Michael Yon looks at the situation through the lens of where this path leads: Afghanistan.

http://michaelyon-online.com/american-unrest-officers-shot-killed-in-dallas.htm

Our leaders and the media have created an endless echo chamber of angry, divisive rhetoric and our media gleefully amplify it all on endless repeat. The shared values that have held our Republic together have been replaced by polarized, dogmatic, political talking points that leave no room for understanding or meaningful compromise.

The fact that anyone can justify supporting either of the presumptive nominees for President is a graphic illustration of how far we have gone astray. "Yes, they're a vile, corrupt, horrible person but they check all my talking points so I'll make excuses for anything."

I don't believe that the problem with police use of force is driven by racism. I believe it's driven by a policing culture that is too militarized, too aggressive, and too focused on eliminating threats to themselves at the expense of the presumed innocent public. That doesn't mean that I agree with the rhetoric of some who think that they're bad people by nature, or that they're always wrong. But our risk-averse culture has created an environment where "I'm going home safe no matter what" sometimes takes precedence over making sure that innocent citizens go home.

Gnam
07-08-16, 06:05 PM
The scary part is the sniper was only shooting at cops. If he had targeted everyone, the body count would have been much higher.

As for the robot bomb, it feels weird. It's what I would expect the Marines to do in Fallujah when fighting foreigners.

If a police sniper had shot the guy in the face, I wouldn't have a problem. But, a government employee remotely murdering a US citizen without due process seems wrong. I can't explain the distinction, but apparently there is one.

dando
07-08-16, 07:25 PM
Cleveland is going to be an armed camp. Maybe not tanks in the streets, but definitely lots and lots of guns.

Same with Philly. :saywhat:

nrc
07-09-16, 01:45 AM
On the question of the robot bombing I have mixed feelings. I agree that the militarization of police is a major part of the problem and so I agree with the concerns in that respect. But I do think there need to be very specialized teams that will always have heavier equipment to deal with special situations. The problem is how much that equipment has spread across police forces and how broadly that equipment and tactics are used. Too many search warrants are served like they're clearing a house in Fallujah.

In this specific case it's a tough call. The scenario is similar to one where they would have made the call to have a sniper shoot the offender. I assume they didn't have a vantage point to do that. Would it have been ok if they put a gun on the robot and drove it around to shoot him?

Hopefully they'll give this some thought and come up with a less lethal robotic weapon to drive barricaded shooters out of cover so they can be shot fair and square. Maybe hose them down with a really powerful pepper spray. Of course part of the risk of that is that you drive them out of cover and another innocent gets hurt or killed in the resulting gun battle.

cameraman
07-09-16, 02:00 AM
Whether you kill someone with C4 on a robot or a police sniper's bullet makes not one iota of difference in either due process or result.

gjc2
07-09-16, 06:45 AM
Whether you kill someone with C4 on a robot or a police sniper's bullet makes not one iota of difference in either due process or result.

I agree. The police can use deadly force against an active shooter.

Napoleon
07-09-16, 08:48 AM
If a police sniper had shot the guy in the face, I wouldn't have a problem. But, a government employee remotely murdering a US citizen without due process seems wrong. I can't explain the distinction, but apparently there is one.

The guy was holed up in a garage. I suspect they would have done that if they had a shot at him but that they did not, so either they send someone in, who stands a pretty good chance of getting shot, use the robot or just wait.

stroker
07-09-16, 10:50 AM
Wish I'd invested in drone manufacturers last week...

G.
07-09-16, 01:00 PM
Whether you kill someone with C4 on a robot or a police sniper's bullet makes not one iota of difference in either due process or result.

Yep.
Note, I used the word "illogically" in my post.


I agree. The police can use deadly force against an active shooter.

Of course. It should be fast and overwhelming, whenever possible.




As for the robot bomb, it feels weird.

This.


So, c4, tnt, black powder, etc., doesn't usually kill people. It is used to accelerate lethal bits of (usually) metal to a very high velocity. That does the killing. So what did they use? A home-made boomer wrapped in duck tape? A grenade? An old artillery shell wired to a cellphone? An M-80 stuffed in a bag of marbles?
How did they get it to him? Did the robot chase him around the building? What it an exploding turkey sammich?

Using a bomb just doesn't seem right. The details around the attack will make all of the difference, of course.

gjc2
07-09-16, 04:02 PM
Using a bomb just doesn't seem right. The details around the attack will make all of the difference, of course.

I’m also OK with the fact that there’s some controversy regarding the matter; the taking of a human life isn’t something to ever be taken lightly.

nrc
07-09-16, 04:37 PM
So, c4, tnt, black powder, etc., doesn't usually kill people. It is used to accelerate lethal bits of (usually) metal to a very high velocity. That does the killing. So what did they use? A home-made boomer wrapped in duck tape? A grenade? An old artillery shell wired to a cellphone? An M-80 stuffed in a bag of marbles?
How did they get it to him? Did the robot chase him around the building? What it an exploding turkey sammich?

Using a bomb just doesn't seem right. The details around the attack will make all of the difference, of course.

Maybe it was a Candygram.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ciVBQixpU

Bomb squads probably have explosives on hand both for training and bomb deactivation. A common method is to have the robot take the suspected bomb to a safe location and then set a bomb down next to it and detonate it.

I'm guessing he was trapped in an enclosed area or behind cover unable to move away from the robot. Or maybe they told him it was bringing food, water, or a cell phone to negotiate so he had no reason to. While it's true that shrapnel is usually what kills, in close the shock wave from a small amount of high explosive can be lethal.

dando
07-09-16, 04:51 PM
Perhaps deploying Land Sharks...

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/landshark/2832305

;)

nrc
07-11-16, 01:56 PM
Your tax dollars going to outfit police like Storm Troopers so they can create images like this.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7FF2/production/_90345723_mediaitem90345722.jpg

I get it. Maybe you need some gear like this for when the **** really hits the fan. But have the sense to have ordinary uniformed officers deal with one chick standing in the road.

Oh, and assuming that "Darth Vader" was the only color scheme available for this gear it should have giant, reflective stickers screaming "POLICE" on it. Policing should be about visibility, not camouflage.

SteveH
07-11-16, 02:18 PM
Anyone else think of Tiananmen Square when seeing the above?

cameraman
07-11-16, 02:25 PM
Your tax dollars going to outfit police like Storm Troopers so they can create images like this.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7FF2/production/_90345723_mediaitem90345722.jpg

I get it. Maybe you need some gear like this for when the **** really hits the fan. But have the sense to have ordinary uniformed officers deal with one chick standing in the road.

Oh, and assuming that "Darth Vader" was the only color scheme available for this gear it should have giant, reflective stickers screaming "POLICE" on it. Policing should be about visibility, not camouflage.

Well later on that day you had the following going on, might have been a different city but same type of protest.

http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/578258fd1b00002700f6d08e.png

Judging from the now-ubiquitous video of that stupidity that cop had completely lost any and all situational awareness and common sense she was born with.

There are some huge police training problems in this nation. They are supposed to be professionals, that kind of crap is inexcusable.

Gnam
07-11-16, 03:02 PM
Anyone else think of Tiananmen Square when seeing the above?
No, reminds me more of the Tet Offensive. Bunch of guys in pajamas, who look harmless but wreak havoc.

Gnam's helpful tips for dealing with Da-Police:
#1: Don't get caught.
#2: You can't outrun Mr. Motorola. Don't run from the Police; they have radios.
#3: If you want to play, you gotta pay. If you challenge them, you are going to catch a beating.
#4: The police are your friends...as long as they are over there, talking to somebody else.
#5: Cops are just like everyone else. We're all *******s.
#6: Support your local POA.

RaceGrrl
07-12-16, 09:32 AM
Your tax dollars going to outfit police like Storm Troopers so they can create images like this.

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7FF2/production/_90345723_mediaitem90345722.jpg



That makes my heart hurt.

Napoleon
07-12-16, 02:20 PM
^^^

Even ignoring the social context of that picture, it is one of the most oddly surreal pictures I have seen in a while. I can't articulate exactly why but the first thing that occurred to me was that it is oddly surreal in the "Wish You Were Here" album cover sense. I don't know if its the otherwise neatness of everyone and everything, her dress slightly blowing, the odd posture of the cops or what.

nissan gtp
07-12-16, 04:36 PM
^^^

Even ignoring the social context of that picture, it is one of the most oddly surreal pictures I have seen in a while. I can't articulate exactly why but the first thing that occurred to me was that it is oddly surreal in the "Wish You Were Here" album cover sense. I don't know if its the otherwise neatness of everyone and everything, her dress slightly blowing, the odd posture of the cops or what.

it's like she's using the force to push them back.

G.
07-12-16, 07:12 PM
^^^

Even ignoring the social context of that picture, it is one of the most oddly surreal pictures I have seen in a while. I can't articulate exactly why but the first thing that occurred to me was that it is oddly surreal in the "Wish You Were Here" album cover sense. I don't know if its the otherwise neatness of everyone and everything, her dress slightly blowing, the odd posture of the cops or what.

Pulitzer.

I saw another angle, just slightly to photog's right. It didn't have the same impact, IMO.

Napoleon
07-13-16, 06:39 AM
Pulitzer.

Funny you should say that. When I was driving home from work last night I was thinking what do you want to bet this is the photo this year that gets it.

dando
07-15-16, 01:23 AM
Part this crap and what you are listening to today...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jitJp1-bmQ0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nRM8zfG9xE&spfreload=1

:(

Gnam
07-15-16, 01:31 AM
Son of a bitch. :mad:

"What can men do against such reckless hate."

"Hate him back; it works for me."

"All that hate's gonna burn you up inside, boy.

It keeps me warm."

dando
07-17-16, 01:38 PM
3 cops killed in Baton Rouge. :saywhat: End the madness. :(

http://www.wbrz.com/news/3-officers-dead-after-shooting-near-brpd-hq

dando
07-22-16, 01:06 PM
Now Munich joins the club.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/europe/germany-munich-shooting/index.html

:( :shakehead:

Gnam
07-22-16, 03:49 PM
Might be a German with a grudge...

dando
07-22-16, 04:08 PM
Might be a German with a grudge...

Seems likely, but they have cut off most of the videos and other updates.

Tifosi24
07-22-16, 04:21 PM
The reports would be that there are three suspects, so it would be a big grudge.

Gnam
07-22-16, 04:51 PM
The reports would be that there are three suspects, so it would be a big grudge.
Maybe a German (of the muslim faith) with a (radicalized Islamist) grudge...

This summer offensive reminds me of the German blitz over Britain: random raids on civilians with no military value except to cause terror.
It took a lot of dead people to stop it last time.

nrc
07-22-16, 07:32 PM
It looks like France has a gun and truck problem while Germany has a gun, knife, axe, and man parts problem.

Insomniac
07-26-16, 12:52 PM
Can add Japan to the list. Is there something in the air? Children, disabled. Getting more and more heinous.


At least 19 people were killed and 26 injured in a stabbing spree at a facility for disabled people west of Tokyo, making it one of Japan's deadliest mass killings since World War II. Nine men and 10 women, ranging in age from 18 to 70, were killed in the attack.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/world/japan-knife-attack-deaths/

TKGAngel
07-26-16, 02:55 PM
Is there something in the air? Children, disabled. Getting more and more heinous.

You can now add '86-year-old priest in the middle of saying Mass' to that list.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/26/europe/france-normandy-church-hostage/index.html

dando
07-26-16, 03:37 PM
You can now add '86-year-old priest in the middle of saying Mass' to that list.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/26/europe/france-normandy-church-hostage/index.html

:( :thumbdown: :saywhat: :irked:

cameraman
07-26-16, 05:44 PM
You can now add '86-year-old priest in the middle of saying Mass' to that list.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/26/europe/france-normandy-church-hostage/index.html

Toss in the irony that the parish in question had donated land nearby for a new mosque. What you need to remember is that ISIS has but one goal, to disrupt and totally destroy any and all relations between the Islamic world (as defined in their mind) and the rest of the world. There are no shades of gray in their world view, just pure war between them and the rest of the world. Their goal is to instigate total open warfare and dying in that war is viewed as the best possible outcome. I don't know if ISIS knew that this is a church that actively promoted coexistence - but if they did, they'll want to hit it even more.

Gnam
07-26-16, 11:47 PM
Close the Louvre. Box up and safeguard the art.
Evacuate the women, children, elderly, and infirm.
Seal the borders, and hang up a 'Pardon our Mess' sign.

Then clean house...

nrc
07-27-16, 12:31 AM
Seems like now would be a good time to get that trip to Yurp out of the way before it's gone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvOofC7zxjY

nrc
12-19-16, 03:46 PM
That sound you just heard was Turkey zipping past 1914 on it's way back to the dark ages.

Gnam
12-19-16, 04:30 PM
Lucky for the world, the Russians are known for their restraint and gentle, diplomatic ways. ;)

Moscow now has an effective propaganda tool to use when they are accused of murdering women and children in Aleppo.
Instead of bombed out neighborhoods, we'll see an elaborate State funeral with Putin hugging the Ambassador's widow.

SteveH
12-19-16, 05:10 PM
Berlin Christmas market: 9 dead, at least 50 injured in truck crash (http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/19/europe/berlin-christmas-market-truck/index.html?adkey=bn)

probably terrorism :flaming:

Napoleon
12-29-16, 01:32 PM
^^^

So in the truck used in the Berlin Christmas market attack may have stopped as early as it did in the attack because an EU mandated automatic brake system may have engaged stopping the truck.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/12/29/an-obscure-e-u-regulation-may-have-saved-lives-in-the-berlin-christmas-market-attack/?utm_term=.7b4d0741c3bd

Gnam
12-29-16, 02:05 PM
German engineering has been frustrating terrorists for decades.

https://s24.postimg.org/cm0nzf9f9/a2a33fcf398e68d41f066be69c2fb876.jpg
https://s24.postimg.org/t910nad6t/vw0140032ng1hd_6893.jpg

TravelGal
01-06-17, 02:57 PM
Fort Lauderdale airport. Not good.

WickerBill
01-06-17, 05:05 PM
Five dead, nine injured as of now. Shooter ran out of ammo and laid down on the ground and awaited custody.

Gnam
01-06-17, 06:38 PM
I didn't know you could still fly with weapons in your checked luggage.

:(

nissan gtp
01-06-17, 07:56 PM
I didn't know you could still fly with weapons in your checked luggage.

:(


yep. ammo too.

'merica

dando
01-06-17, 08:24 PM
I didn't know you could still fly with weapons in your checked luggage.

:(

Regs are unloaded in a locked container. :\

TravelGal
01-07-17, 02:54 AM
I didn't know you could still fly with weapons in your checked luggage.

:(


yep. ammo too.

'merica


Regs are unloaded in a locked container. :\


https://guncarrier.com/how-to-fly-with-a-firearm/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NL-4-25-16-content-mail-a

nrc
01-07-17, 08:52 PM
yep. ammo too.

'merica

But you don't have access to it anywhere that is secured anyway. He could just as easily have walked in with it from outside.

gjc2
01-08-17, 08:07 AM
But you don't have access to it anywhere that is secured anyway. He could just as easily have walked in with it from outside.

Exactly.

rabbit
01-09-17, 11:21 AM
Florida is one of six states that do not allow firearms ANYWHERE in the airport (the aforementioned locked and checked baggage excluded). Proof, once again, that more and stricter gun laws do not stop evil people from doing evil things.

Insomniac
01-09-17, 01:10 PM
Florida is one of six states that do not allow firearms ANYWHERE in the airport (the aforementioned locked and checked baggage excluded). Proof, once again, that more and stricter gun laws do not stop evil people from doing evil things.

Doesn't that apply to every law? Just because people break them doesn't mean they are pointless or ineffective.

nissan gtp
01-09-17, 01:32 PM
Doesn't that apply to every law? Just because people break them doesn't mean they are pointless or ineffective.

yep

dando
03-22-17, 03:10 PM
#sigh

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3151786/westminster-shooting-attack-parliament-house-of-commons-latest-news/

Thoughts to our peeps in the UK.

:(

rabbit
03-22-17, 04:39 PM
Doesn't that apply to every law? Just because people break them doesn't mean they are pointless or ineffective.

True, but when criminals ignore one law, the knee-jerk reaction is to make another one, assuming the perps who ignored the first law will finally come to their senses and obey the second. Sometimes bad people do bad things. And no amount of legislation is going to stop that.

What is frustrating to me is that the law in that situation (no guns in non-secured areas of an airport) only serves to make the law abiders sitting ducks for the law violators.

nrc
03-22-17, 05:26 PM
#sigh

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3151786/westminster-shooting-attack-parliament-house-of-commons-latest-news/

Thoughts to our peeps in the UK.

:(

It's chilling to see the scenes where we so recently strolled as happy tourists strewn with the bodies of terrorist casualties.

dando
03-22-17, 05:35 PM
It's chilling to see the scenes where we so recently strolled as happy tourists strewn with the bodies of terrorist casualties.

Meanwhile I have parental units floating around the world yet again, and on their way to Jordan next. :saywhat: :irked: :shakehead: You couldn't pay me to travel overseas these days. :irked:

rabbit
03-22-17, 05:42 PM
Meanwhile I have parental units floating around the world yet again, and on their way to Jordan next. :saywhat: :irked: :shakehead: You couldn't pay me to travel overseas these days. :irked:
Seriously. My in-laws were in France when Nice happened. We didn't know exactly where they were going to be in France, so it was a little nerve-wracking until we got word from them.

dando
03-22-17, 05:49 PM
Seriously. My in-laws were in France when Nice happened. We didn't know exactly where they were going to be in France, so it was a little nerve-wracking until we got word from them.

They were also in Japan when NK was lobbing missiles towards Japan. :saywhat: Jordan is friendly, but squished in b/w Israel, Syria and Iraq. :shakehead: :irked:

Gnam
03-22-17, 07:18 PM
:mad: I do not understand the hesitancy to end this.

dando
03-22-17, 07:39 PM
:mad: I do not understand the hesitancy to end this.

It's like a leaky faucet. You find a way to fix it, and then a new leak pops up. :\ :irked:

rabbit
03-22-17, 10:42 PM
It's like a leaky faucet. You find a way to fix it, and then a new leak pops up. :\ :irked:Except we keep trying to work on all the other plumbing in the hopes that we won't offend the faucet so it will stop leaking on its own... :shakehead:

rabbit
03-22-17, 10:44 PM
They were also in Japan when NK was lobbing missiles towards Japan. :saywhat: Jordan is friendly, but squished in b/w Israel, Syria and Iraq. :shakehead: :irked:

Speaking of dangerous tourist destinations, is Chicago in their travel plans any time in the near future? :eek:

dando
03-23-17, 03:07 AM
Speaking of dangerous tourist destinations, is Chicago in their travel plans any time in the near future? :eek:

Nope. But step-dad has family in central Illinois. They used to live in Madison, so I made a few treks through Chitown and ducked a lot. Drive quickly through the south side. I also watched/read some recent reporting on the Rockville 'situation' and Bmore it isn't much better. :\ Camden Yards was a place I wanted to go catch a ball game, but it has turned into a crack house hood...not that oHIo south of I-70 is much better these days with the heroin and opioid epidemics. The recent story about the 9-yo girl who called 911 with her father overdosed and her mother driving the vehicle basically passing out off and on on heroin. :irked:

In any case, lots of reports about what happened today that ISIS and AQ are joining forces on 'low tech' attacks using vehicles, and the AQ bomb master is the reason behind the bans on carry on laptops, tablets, etc. bigger than a smartphone. Expect that to hit domestic flights soon. :\ Our first flight with DD#1 was in 2004 and we flew through Savannah to Hilton Head. We were pulled aside with a DD not quite 1 and were searched. SAV is not a big airport, and certainly not a target flying to Cbus. :saywhat:

SteveH
03-23-17, 07:34 AM
I can recall during Desert Storm having to pull my laptop out at security, powering it up to show a DOS prompt before being allowed through security. Obviously before the TSA.

Insomniac
03-23-17, 10:54 AM
:mad: I do not understand the hesitancy to end this.

Who is hesitating? There isn't a quick fix. It didn't start overnight and won't stop overnight.

Insomniac
03-23-17, 11:04 AM
In any case, lots of reports about what happened today that ISIS and AQ are joining forces on 'low tech' attacks using vehicles, and the AQ bomb master is the reason behind the bans on carry on laptops, tablets, etc. bigger than a smartphone. Expect that to hit domestic flights soon. :\ Our first flight with DD#1 was in 2004 and we flew through Savannah to Hilton Head. We were pulled aside with a DD not quite 1 and were searched. SAV is not a big airport, and certainly not a target flying to Cbus. :saywhat:

Sadly, you get nonsensical random searches when you can't profile effectively. We have too many airports and too many travelers to properly train the TSA to profile like the Israelis.

nrc
03-23-17, 11:53 AM
Who is hesitating? There isn't a quick fix. It didn't start overnight and won't stop overnight.

Nonsense. You just press Left, Right, Left, Button 3.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hHDxlm66dE

Pilgrims Drop
04-07-17, 01:10 PM
Last night in Sweden suddenly became a reality... so far it seems that 3 persons have been killed and several have been injured in another mindless attack using a truck.

This time it was even more terrible as the truck they used was hauling beer!

Gnam
04-07-17, 02:57 PM
It's gonna be a long summer.

WickerBill
05-24-17, 06:51 AM
The Manchester bombing is pretty horrific, and follows what appears to be the new strategy: focus on entertainment, revelers, people gathering to enjoy something and therefore perhaps not on their guards (like people are today at airports).


Very sad. Makes me worry about the races this weekend.

Insomniac
05-24-17, 10:05 AM
The Manchester bombing is pretty horrific, and follows what appears to be the new strategy: focus on entertainment, revelers, people gathering to enjoy something and therefore perhaps not on their guards (like people are today at airports).


Very sad. Makes me worry about the races this weekend.

While the odds are so low of this happening to anyone, their goal is to make everyone fearful. The odds are likely higher that one would die travelling to the event than being killed in a terror attack, but we don't all stay home. It's horrific, but the media really needs to reduce the sensationalism in general.

cameraman
05-24-17, 12:03 PM
You are vastly more likely to be hit by lightning at any given moment. People need to stop running scared and demanding total security which simply can not exist. Just go on with your life.

Roosevelt was correct "So, first of all, let me assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance."

Gnam
05-24-17, 02:49 PM
So don't worry about terrorism until it happens to you? Great advice.

People are afraid because it is becoming clear that their governments cannot protect them against this growing and continuing threat. Their only recourse is to put us in smaller and smaller cages in a failed effort to 'keep us safe'.