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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18211331/nfl-says-tennessee-titans-play-my-cause-cleats
2 yards forward, 10 yard penalty back.
:shakehead: :thumbdown: :irked: :\
That's pretty dumb.
Good.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18211331/nfl-reverses-course-tennessee-titans-cleveland-browns-not-playing-my-cause-cleats
:) :thumbup:
Damn. :laugh:
49ers and Browns: Factories of Sadness
Tickets for Sunday’s game between the 49ers (1-11) and Jets (3-9) are being sold for as little as $19, according to VividSeats.com.
There’s only one NFL team with cheaper tickets than the 49ers this weekend, and by now you probably know the answer.
You can get into the Browns’ game in Cleveland against the Bengals for $6.
http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/article119812753.html
Damn. :laugh:
Yet parking for the 9ers will co$t more than the tix. :gomer: :shakehead: You couldn't pay me enough to hit up the Clowns/Bungles fiasco considering the weather (cold + snow == instant idiots). :\
Sunday is gonna be Funday....Snow Bowls in GB, Clevelburgh, Boofalo, Philly, NY, and maybe NE Monday night. :D
Nuge. :shakehead: :saywhat: :irked: :mad: :\
TKGAngel
12-11-16, 03:44 PM
Buffalo game in delay as field clearing attempts at halftime pulled up all the rubber pellets from the turf. Mounds of rubber along sidelines and in end zone. :shakehead:
https://mobile.twitter.com/haprusak/status/808033826031206400
Only in the NFL....Fisher canned a week after contract extension announced. :shakehead: :saywhat:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18263718/jeff-fisher-fired-coach-st-louis-rams
Adds fuel to the fire that Harbaugh will be the next Rams coach.
Only in the NFL....Fisher canned a week after contract extension announced. :shakehead: :saywhat:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18263718/jeff-fisher-fired-coach-st-louis-rams
Adds fuel to the fire that Harbaugh will be the next Rams coach.
nice URL for that story :tony:
Insomniac
12-12-16, 05:49 PM
Only in the NFL....Fisher canned a week after contract extension announced. :shakehead: :saywhat:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18263718/jeff-fisher-fired-coach-st-louis-rams
Adds fuel to the fire that Harbaugh will be the next Rams coach.
Too bad Hard Knocks wasn't there to capture that. Guess leaking the extension didn't help save his job.
nice URL for that story :tony:
:laugh:
I think Chip Kelly would be a great pick for the Rams' head coach. He would be much better that Harbaugh. ;)
:laugh:
I think Chip Kelly would be a great pick for the Rams' head coach. He would be much better that Harbaugh. ;)
You wish. :gomer: :D
Ugh. This is too cruel. Should I root for Harbaugh to yank the rug out from underneath the team up North, take his crying towels and leave? Or should I root for him to stick around so I can enjoy the rain of tears that will continue to pour down from up North on an annual basis?
It's like, do you want your ice cream all at once or do you want the lifetime supply?
Ugh. This is too cruel. Should I root for Harbaugh to yank the rug out from underneath the team up North, take his crying towels and leave? Or should I root for him to stick around so I can enjoy the rain of tears that will continue to pour down from up North on an annual basis?
It's like, do you want your ice cream all at once or do you want the lifetime supply?
No idea if the Twitter rumors are credible at all. Personally, I hope he stays and and the 10-year border war part 2 continues. :) I did some searching for the old ads the Dispatch and Freep exchanged back in the day, but no luck. Best I could do was....
915
:)
TKGAngel
12-13-16, 11:13 AM
Tickets for the epic Browns/Bills matchup on Sunday can be had for under $8 on Stubhub as of this morning. :laugh:
Cleveland radio host loses his mind over plans for parade for 0-16 Browns (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cleveland-radio-host-loses-his-mind-over-plans-for-parade-for-0-16-browns-215842996.html)
“If you are one of the people out there that is planning a parade for 0-16, I will fight you,” Rizzo declared. “Come down and see me right now, I’m at Buffalo Wild Wings. You’re going to celebrate my misery for four months? One of the (organizing) guys came up to me at Dawg Pound Drive…and I said, ‘Get away from me.'”
Insomniac
12-13-16, 11:55 AM
Bill Belichick tried to give the game away yesterday, but Brady wasn't having any of it fortunately. I think it's going to be a great playoffs this year with real any given Sunday potential (except Houston).
Tickets for the epic Browns/Bills matchup on Sunday can be had for under $8 on Stubhub as of this morning. :laugh:
It'll be like Clowns Stadium last Sunday...half full by halftime. :gomer:
Bill Belichick tried to give the game away yesterday, but Brady wasn't having any of it fortunately. I think it's going to be a great playoffs this year with real any given Sunday potential (except Houston).
I hate you. :p
Cleveland radio host loses his mind over plans for parade for 0-16 Browns (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cleveland-radio-host-loses-his-mind-over-plans-for-parade-for-0-16-browns-215842996.html)
And they want to have a practice facility built in Cbus for preseason... :irked: :saywhat: :\
Napoleon
12-13-16, 01:35 PM
Cleveland radio host loses his mind over plans for parade for 0-16 Browns
Figures it was Rizzo
Insomniac
12-13-16, 01:45 PM
And they want to have a practice facility built in Cbus for preseason... :irked: :saywhat: :\
Focus on football, the problem isn't the facility. Quit over-reacting to everything. They have to keep building on progress, which admittedly is hard to see when you're 0-13, but the staff knows the issues. Draft a couple QBs and bring in a veteran who knows the system and is a teacher. Don't trade away a pick for someone else's QB. Draft and build your own.
Focus on football, the problem isn't the facility. Quit over-reacting to everything. They have to keep building on progress, which admittedly is hard to see when you're 0-13, but the staff knows the issues. Draft a couple QBs and bring in a veteran who knows the system and is a teacher. Don't trade away a pick for someone else's QB. Draft and build your own.
Problem is the career expectancy of an NFL coach is ~2 seasons. :\ The Fisher debacle is just nuts. Announce the extension, then fire him on a short week, and factor in the move from St. Lou to La La. Fish was a good coach who got stuck with Vince Young, and a degrading Eddie George. And find me a team you lets a young QB develop like that. Last I can recall was Kitna and Palmer in Cincy. Otherwise, it's frying pan into the fire. :irked:
Bill Belichick tried to give the game away yesterday, but Brady wasn't having any of it fortunately. I think it's going to be a great playoffs this year with real any given Sunday potential (except Houston).
Lots of good hits in that game. Fools were getting blasted.
The Patriots tried to copy the 49ers' 2nd Half collapse, but all that talent got in the way. This week the Niners should watch tape of the Patriots game instead of their own. :gomer:
Insomniac
12-13-16, 04:16 PM
Problem is the career expectancy of an NFL coach is ~2 seasons. :\ The Fisher debacle is just nuts. Announce the extension, then fire him on a short week, and factor in the move from St. Lou to La La. Fish was a good coach who got stuck with Vince Young, and a degrading Eddie George. And find me a team you lets a young QB develop like that. Last I can recall was Kitna and Palmer in Cincy. Otherwise, it's frying pan into the fire. :irked:
And at some point owners need to realize it takes longer than that. It's rare there's a quick fix. More often than not the job is open because the team has had a prolonged amount of losing. Football is too complex a sport for players or coaches to just be interchangeable. Fisher had Eddie George pretty much his whole career. He had the tome there and at STL. I think with QBs, you just don't know if they can just get it from day 1. If you draft a Dak Prescott who can do it from the get go, you play them. Having a veteran gives you options. If you go big on a free agent like Houston, you're stuck. Success in the NFL has way too many factors and drafting is just not easy. A team needs to start to realize there arn't many saviors to be drafted or free agent Peyton Mannings.
Nuge!
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18271954/mike-nugent-released-cincinnati-bengals
Nuge!
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18271954/mike-nugent-released-cincinnati-bengals
Why did I not want to click on that linky? :(
Why did I not want to click on that linky? :(
The guy's had a good career with the Buckeyes and Bengals. I would much rather have seen him come out of his funk, hit every kick on the way to an improbable play-off berth, and hit a winning field goal against the Steelers in the closing seconds of an AFC championship game. Not to be. :(
The Bengals gave him longer to pull out of his funk than probably most teams would but at some point you have to have accountability. A viable alternative came available and that was that.
The guy's had a good career with the Buckeyes and Bengals. I would much rather have seen him come out of his funk, hit every kick on the way to an improbable play-off berth, and hit a winning field goal against the Steelers in the closing seconds of an AFC championship game. Not to be. :(
The Bengals gave him longer to pull out of his funk than probably most teams would but at some point you have to have accountability. A viable alternative came available and that was that.
Yes, he was on a long leash, but that missed PAT in Cleveburgh was a bad snap. It had to happen, tho. :( Kinda like a PEBKAC issue. :\
Sorry, nrc.... :\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKEQm10-n84
Your next coach is rested and ready...
http://www.donshula.com/images/president-dave-shula/daveShula.png
Maybe he can throw in some free appetizers for season ticket holders. Maybe pizza shooters, shrimp poppers, or extreme fajitas.
No. Our best hope for the Bengals to build on their recent success is for Lewis to orchestrate a replacement. We already know based on the Hue Jackson situation that he's thinking along those lines.
stroker
12-18-16, 11:55 PM
Was it me or were there an abnormally high number of last-second games today?
Napoleon
12-25-16, 09:23 AM
Browns win!
TravelGal
12-26-16, 06:08 PM
Browns win!
Yeah, it's no reflection on Cleveland. It's the Bolts on their way out the door to LaLaLand.
Yeah, it's no reflection on Cleveland. It's the Bolts on their way out the door to LaLaLand.
Bolts screwed the pooch with 9 penalties. :saywhat:
Ryanless in Buffalo.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18357761/buffalo-bills-fire-head-coach-rex-ryan
TKGAngel
12-27-16, 03:16 PM
Ryanless in Buffalo.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18357761/buffalo-bills-fire-head-coach-rex-ryan
The players found out via Twitter and not from anyone internal. That's really not good.
The players found out via Twitter and not from anyone internal. That's really not good.
Beaut. That's as bad as the Jags having their canned HC fly back with the team. :shakehead:
Kelly out (and Baalke).
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18385313/coach-chip-kelly-gm-trent-baalke-dismissed-san-francisco-49ers
Kelly out (and Baalke).
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18385313/coach-chip-kelly-gm-trent-baalke-dismissed-san-francisco-49ers
Happy New Year! :)
http://youtu.be/hrG0AwUJQDQ
WickerBill
01-01-17, 11:13 AM
Kubiak out. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18386784/denver-broncos-coach-gary-kubiak-likely-stepping-down
Kubiak out. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18386784/denver-broncos-coach-gary-kubiak-likely-stepping-down
Surprised, yet not. Gonna be some interesting HC swirl this off season.
EDIT: Add McCoy to the growing list. Good for him to get out from under Spanos.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18391518/san-diego-chargers-fire-coach-mike-mccoy
Eric Branch @Eric_Branch 17h17 hours ago
Trent Baalke on 12-29-14: "This isn’t a rebuild situation. This is a reload situation."
#49ers record since: 7-24.
Mmmmm...strong is the crack with this one...yesss.
Adam Jones arrested. :shakehead:
http://www.fox19.com/story/34169839/bengals-adam-jones-arrested-overnight
You do and do and do for these kids and this is thanks you get? Sorry, it's time to say goodbye. Second chances are fine, you can't keep giving fourth and fifth chances especially when it's exactly the behavior with which he's hurt the team on and off the field over and over again.
Adam Jones arrested. :shakehead:
http://www.fox19.com/story/34169839/bengals-adam-jones-arrested-overnight
You do and do and do for these kids and this is thanks you get? Sorry, it's time to say goodbye. Second chances are fine, you can't keep giving fourth and fifth chances especially when it's exactly the behavior with which he's hurt the team on and off the field over and over again.
Yup. First thought that crossed my mind. You can lead a horse to water.... :irked:
TKGAngel
01-03-17, 02:13 PM
The media can't believe that Doug Whaley did his best Sgt Schultz imitation for this press conference.
http://deadspin.com/bills-gms-press-conference-really-couldnt-have-gone-muc-1790691580
The media can't believe that Doug Whaley did his best Sgt Schultz imitation for this press conference.
http://deadspin.com/bills-gms-press-conference-really-couldnt-have-gone-muc-1790691580
Putz in Charge. :shakehead:
The 49ers' owner, Jed York, held a press conference yesterday to explain how he's going to fix things.
It was hilarious.
YORK: First I want to let the fans know I apologize for a 2-14 season. I apologize for being back here again and making a change. We need to make sure we move forward and find the right head coach and general manager.
Q: Why are you competent to lead this search?
YORK: Nothing that I’m going to say is going to be a satisfactory answer... I’ve done it before. That was in the past. I can’t live on the past.
Q: Who makes the decision and any thought of bringing in a team president to oversee?
YORK: Ultimately the decision will rest with me.
Q: Why should you not be dismissed?
YORK: Nothing I’m going to say…
Q: Say something...
YORK: Nothing I’m going to say is going to be satisfactory.
I own this football team. You don’t dismiss owners. I’m sorry that that’s the facts and that’s the case but that’s the facts. I’m going to do everything I can to get this right.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2017/01/02/jed-yorks-third-annual-oops-49ers-year-ending-presser-dont-dismiss-owners/
:tony:
Worst NFL head coaching gigs?
9ers
Bills
Clowns
and I'll throw in the J-E-T-S
Discuss. :gomer:
TravelGal
01-03-17, 08:15 PM
I don't think it was any picnic being the Chargers' coach these last few years either. I'm glad McCoy is gone but he didn't have a lot work with on the field, ninnies in the front office, and a city that can't really decide to back them or pack them.
Chortle....
http://www.wkyc.com/sports/nfl/browns/you-need-to-see-this-billy-joel-parody-about-the-cleveland-browns-qbs/382135383
:rofl:
stroker
01-04-17, 10:24 PM
How come nobody ever ranks the front office/owners of the teams?
How come nobody ever ranks the front office/owners of the teams?
Indirectly, they do, but the low-hanging fruit is on the field. It's been full-scale assault on York, Whaley, the Pegulas, Haslam & Co., etc. the past week or so. Difficult to bring the light to those that lurk in the shadows.
WickerBill
01-05-17, 09:00 AM
How come nobody ever ranks the front office/owners of the teams?
I find it easy to name some of the well-run, stable, planful organizations:
Steelers, Patriots, Broncos, Chiefs, Seahawks
...and fairly easy to name the unstable, always making wrong moves, trigger-happy orgs:
Browns, Bills, 49ers, Jets
But the rest are just sort of "in the middle". Who is to say the Colts, for instance, with their pain pill-addled owner who removed the best GM in the league because he had two average drafts, are better or worse than the Lions or Redskins or Bengals?
Napoleon
01-05-17, 10:10 AM
^^^ last 2 post.
I really don't think Haslam (as much as I hate the guy) has owned the Browns long enough to really fairly judge his ownership at this point.
Don Quixote
01-05-17, 12:36 PM
I'm not expecting the Browns to go too far in the playoffs this year. just trying to be realistic.
stroker
01-05-17, 12:41 PM
Seems to me that you could easily make a metric of the front office performance based on season standings and player longevity/production... That would be an interesting project for someone with more time and smarts than me.
Insomniac
01-05-17, 01:31 PM
Winning solves so much. Probably a simple formula on ownership. Average longevity of the head coach < 3 is a bad owner.
I did try an analysis of draft picks once based on longevity of career, games played and games started. It didn't correlate all that well to winning without manipulation, like giving teams with a lot of picks leeway and hammering teams who had a few picks and drafted bad.
I thunk all this is what makes football the best sport. Good teams are a mix of so many things. You need talent in players and coaches. You need to have good teaching and learning. Everyone has to execute well.
Napoleon
01-05-17, 02:12 PM
I'm not expecting the Browns to go too far in the playoffs this year. just trying to be realistic.
Good, because the local TV news showed them cleaning out their lockers earlier this week and going home. ;)
Napoleon
01-05-17, 02:13 PM
Seems to me that you could easily make a metric of the front office performance based on season standings and player longevity/production... That would be an interesting project for someone with more time and smarts than me.
:\ I wonder if the people at 538 (Nate Silver) have ever done anything like that?
Napoleon
01-05-17, 02:23 PM
Probably a simple formula on ownership. Average longevity of the head coach < 3 is a bad owner.
I don't think it is that simple. For sake of argument assuming that 3 years is good (and personally I would think record is better) the real question is what is the minimum amount of time you give the owner before you do the calculation? Surely not at the end of his first 3 years if he had bought a disaster of a club (ie, the Browns) and it so happens that his first group of front office/coaching hires have not worked out at the end of 3 years. That is my issue with calling Haslan a failure. 5 seasons have run under his ownership, with the first of those him basically having now realistic ownership control over the results since he purchased the team shortly before that season began and he inherited it (call it the reverse Modell, since Modell basically inherited his first Browns team which was their last championship team)
Napoleon
01-05-17, 02:30 PM
PS, to my last post. This was kind of implicit, but I should make it explicit. No matter how good of an owner you are (or business man or HR person, etc, etc) you are always playing odds in that even if you are great some number of your decisions are not going to be - that is just the luck of the draw. It could be that your first GM or coach is one of your rare bad moves, so you really can't hang one bad one on any particular owner, so you have to give someone enough time for a pattern to develop.
Insomniac
01-05-17, 04:22 PM
I don't think it is that simple. For sake of argument assuming that 3 years is good (and personally I would think record is better) the real question is what is the minimum amount of time you give the owner before you do the calculation? Surely not at the end of his first 3 years if he had bought a disaster of a club (ie, the Browns) and it so happens that his first group of front office/coaching hires have not worked out at the end of 3 years. That is my issue with calling Haslan a failure. 5 seasons have run under his ownership, with the first of those him basically having now realistic ownership control over the results since he purchased the team shortly before that season began and he inherited it (call it the reverse Modell, since Modell basically inherited his first Browns team which was their last championship team)
There's some clear examples of who you give a chance. But Haslam?
He's on his 3rd entire regime and they just finished their 4th season. The press openly wondered if Hue Jackson would be back after 1 season. That's a bad owner right now. Not saying he will be forever, but right now he is.
Pegulas are new owners and they hired a coach who was fired because he kept writing checks he couldn't pay in the same division. They just fired him 5 days before the last game. Their GM was so clueless during that press conference. It's not looking pretty right now.
Haslam has had enough time to show his stripes. The Flying J debacle is example enough of his business sense (or non sense), which translates directly to the product on the field. Keep in mind that that chapter has yet to close (civil suit still lingers). Time will tell if his version of Beane Ball will work. I'm guessing not. It took the Bengals well over a decade to recover after PB's passing, and Mike Brown & crew ran them into the ground. They finally brought some solid football minds in with Tobin, Marvin, etc. to right the sinking ship. Now they have the #1 pick, but there's no Luck to save them. Their best player, Thomas, is a season or two from retirement. Check the team stats...they are at or near the bottom in everything except punting (#7 overall).
But the rest are just sort of "in the middle". Who is to say the Colts, for instance, with their pain pill-addled owner who removed the best GM in the league because he had two average drafts, are better or worse than the Lions or Redskins or Bengals?
I caught a bit of Polian on E$PN this AM, and he said that his interviews for HC and other positions lasted 6-12 hours. :eek:
Napoleon
01-06-17, 10:28 AM
Haslam has had enough time to show his stripes. The Flying J debacle is example enough of his business sense (or non sense), which translates directly to the product on the field.
One thing, his quick trigger finger after his first year of the Browns does give you a peak into what could have caused the Flying J thing, and anyone, like me, who have worked somewhere where it appears the management style is to try to force you into situations where you are tempted to cut corners, without telling you to do so, could probably see it as well. Can you imagine how he must act with his managers at Flying J? How is it companies like Flying J (or Wells Fargo, another recent high profile case) somehow have multiple employees running what are scams on their customers.
Still, he is an owner who has only had a say the last 4 seasons.
Lions 24, Seahawks 23
https://s24.postimg.org/thjpix27p/Turkey_Toss_lion_Ryan_Hawk_11_07stamp.jpg
Still, he is an owner who has only had a say the last 4 seasons.
And there's that. :shakehead:
Steeler attempts to kill opposing quarterback. Media celebrates.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-playoffs-dolphins-qb-matt-moore-gets-destroyed-by-steelers-linebacker/
Jim Nance even declared it a legal hit. Got that? Steeler: run ten yards at guy and then speer him in the face with your the crown of your helmet - legal. Bengal: dip your shoulder three steps from the guy and catch him in the head - dirty thug who should be kicked out of the league.
Later in the evening Steelers assistant Joey Porter was arrested for aggravated assault, simple assault, resisting arrest and public drunkenness. But that's ok, I'm sure the media will decide that he was just trying to wrestle the car keys away from some drunk to prevent them from driving.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000771895/article/steelers-coach-joey-porter-arrested-on-multiple-charges
When Adam Jones was arrested recently the NFL.com story gave the rundown on his troubled history. The Porter story can't be bothered with such details.
Porter has a history with the law. He was arrested in 2010 for a DUI and assault and was also arrested in 2007 for battery after being accused of punching Bengals' offensive lineman Levi Jones at a blackjack table in Las Vegas, per USA Today’s NFL arrest records. When with the Steelers in 2006, his dogs attacked and killed a miniature horse that lived on a nearby farm, but his dogs weren’t done there, as when he was with the Cardinals in 2011, Porter's pit bulls killed a neighbor's dog; which led to Porter being cited for not having the dogs on a leash.
That hit was heinous. $100K and a one-game suspension. Period. But then again, there was the CB$ love affair with Cowher and Tomlin leading into the game.... :shakehead: :irked:
Insomniac
01-09-17, 12:43 PM
As a Pats fan, Steelers worry me because they all play like that, both sides of the ball. Fortunately, they have KC first.
Brady would definitely get a flag on that play, but what good is that when your QB is concussed?
As a Pats fan, Steelers worry me because they all play like that, both sides of the ball. Fortunately, they have KC first.
Brady would definitely get a flag on that play, but what good is that when your QB is concussed?
There was a flag on the play but the officials turned the result of the foul upside down with an unsportsmanlike penalty because some stupid Dolphin player dared to object to them trying to kill his quarterback.
None of this made a difference in the game - the Dolphins played the classic "warm weather team in bitter cold" game. You'd think they thought they were made of glass and on roller skates.
Insomniac
01-09-17, 01:12 PM
There was a flag on the play but the officials turned the result of the foul upside down with an unsportsmanlike penalty because some stupid Dolphin player dared to object to them trying to kill his quarterback.
None of this made a difference in the game - the Dolphins played the classic "warm weather team in bitter cold" game. You'd think they thought they were made of glass and on roller skates.
Ahh right, I forgot about that. Well the Dolphins didn't really beat any good teams, the AFC East had the easiest schedule, so it's not surprising, weather or not.
All coaches and Defensive players know not to hit Tom Brady like that. It would be an immediate ejection followed by the death penalty.
Insomniac
01-09-17, 01:26 PM
All coaches and Defensive players know not to hit Tom Brady like that. It would be an immediate ejection followed by the death penalty.
I'd agree that there's a level of respect given to Brady in those situations for thr most part, but there's also something to be said about not being in that situation to begin with. He and Manning were/are slow! The days of QBs with 5.0s+ 40 times are over.
There was a flag on the play but the officials turned the result of the foul upside down with an unsportsmanlike penalty because some stupid Dolphin player dared to object to them trying to kill his quarterback.
None of this made a difference in the game - the Dolphins played the classic "warm weather team in bitter cold" game. You'd think they thought they were made of glass and on roller skates.
Ajayi. He violated the basic principle...he forgot to ask 'Mother May I?' before shoving the PBurgh playah (sic). :gomer: Think back to Heinz Ward and Keith Rivers. :\ If that was NC2A, it's targeting and audios, muchacho. :irked:
I had to chuckle when CB$ focused on the 'piles' of cold-weather gear on the Fish sidelines.
Bolts bolt...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18458293/chargers-announce-move-los-angeles-leaving-san-diego
Sad day, but I guess ya gots to draw the line somewhere. :(
You have people that have been fans of this team for 55 years, and they now will be able to go into a stadium worthy of the support that they've given," said New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, another close friend of Spanos. "The team is still within the geography that will allow the fan base to attend games. I personally wish [the stadium] had been in downtown San Diego, but the powers that be didn't want to cooperate. Dean's family was willing to commit nine figures of capital and just couldn't get the cooperation.
"In one sense it's sad, but in the other it's nice that it's still close by and true fans will be able to support the Chargers."
Always be selling. NFL owners suck. :thumbdown::yuck:
These NFL stadium deals remind me of the Champ Car street races. They never work out for the city putting up the cash.
An ESPN commentator recently said the problem is we care too much about something owned by someone else. :irked:
TKGAngel
01-12-17, 01:35 PM
As is getting pointed out on the Twitter, the stylized LA logo looks like the love child of the Tampa Bay Lightning and the LA Dodgers.
WickerBill
01-12-17, 02:08 PM
As is getting pointed out on the Twitter, the stylized LA logo looks like the love child of the Tampa Bay Lightning and the LA Dodgers.
Please tell me they are not putting this monstrosity on their helmets.
http://esq.h-cdn.co/assets/17/02/1484242750-chargerlogo.jpg
Insomniac
01-12-17, 03:18 PM
$18k fine to almost take the QB out of a game. Well worth it.
Napoleon
01-12-17, 04:04 PM
As is getting pointed out on the Twitter, the stylized LA logo looks like the love child of the Tampa Bay Lightning and the LA Dodgers.
Actually the logo itself kind of looks like it is making a love child
Thoughts on Vance Joseph in Denver? He seemed to do well with the Cincy secondary while he was there and even then everyone seemed to agree that he was on the fast track for a HC job somewhere. Results as DC in Miami would give me pause, though.
Didn't LA lose the Rams in the first place because nobody in LA cared? Now they're going to build an 80,000 seat stadium and put 16 games a year in it? What am I missing here?
Didn't LA lose the Rams in the first place because nobody in LA cared? Now they're going to build an 80,000 seat stadium and put 16 games a year in it? What am I missing here?
Selling tickets is not the goal. Getting the stadium built so it can start pumping out cash is the goal.
Even if no one wants to see the Rams or the Chargers, people will pay to attend the other events (concerts, bowl game, conventions, Monster truck rally, etc.)
Scam city.
WickerBill
01-13-17, 08:37 PM
Thoughts on Vance Joseph in Denver? He seemed to do well with the Cincy secondary while he was there and even then everyone seemed to agree that he was on the fast track for a HC job somewhere. Results as DC in Miami would give me pause, though.
I expected Shanahan. In fact I was stunned when they didn't pick him. So I hope Elway's spidey senses are correct once more. The OC hire of McCoy with Bill Musgrave as QB coach are outstanding hires.
Insomniac
01-14-17, 12:16 PM
Didn't LA lose the Rams in the first place because nobody in LA cared? Now they're going to build an 80,000 seat stadium and put 16 games a year in it? What am I missing here?
$$$. Season tickets will take care of most of the seats and visiting teams fans for the most part would cover the rest when the team(s) stink. They also need to make sure that they can easily show celebrities at the game vs having them hidden away in boxes. LA is a place to be type of place versus fanatic city. Also, I wouldn't rule out the Chargers possibly returning to San Diego (assuming they'd get their relocation fee back).
WickerBill
01-14-17, 01:28 PM
Can't imagine San Diego wanting them back unless ownership changes. Serious bad blood.
Didn't LA lose the Rams in the first place because nobody in LA cared? Now they're going to build an 80,000 seat stadium and put 16 games a year in it? What am I missing here?
Different eras, IMHO. Much like SD, LA refused to build a replacement for the deceprit Coliseum, and the NFL $$$$ weren't flowing like they are today. And it'll be 20 games a year (including pre-season), plus whatever college games they attract (think Jerry's World), and the obligatory SB every 4-5 years. I'm guessing there will be a fairly solid rotation b/w AZ, Big D, LALA, SF, and throw a bone to Houston, Detroit and Indy every decade.
TravelGal
01-14-17, 03:57 PM
Can't imagine San Diego wanting them back unless ownership changes. Serious bad blood.
San Diego made it pretty clear they didn't want them to stay. I lived in San Diego for a few years and listen only to San Diego sports radio stations so I've heard every nuance of this discussed ad nauseum. After the vote in November, it was pretty clear that San Diego wants to stay a small-potatoes burg. But, as you say, with an ownership change, maybe.......
Can't imagine San Diego wanting them back unless ownership changes. Serious bad blood.
File that under ain't gonna happen.
$$$. Season tickets will take care of most of the seats and visiting teams fans for the most part would cover the rest when the team(s) stink. They also need to make sure that they can easily show celebrities at the game vs having them hidden away in boxes. LA is a place to be type of place versus fanatic city. Also, I wouldn't rule out the Chargers possibly returning to San Diego (assuming they'd get their relocation fee back).
I get all that. I just think they'd be better off keeping the number of seats down under 70,000. You're better off selling out games so you can retain season ticket holders and hold the line on ticket prices.
I get all that. I just think they'd be better off keeping the number of seats down under 70,000. You're better off selling out games so you can retain season ticket holders and hold the line on ticket prices.
Modeled after....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AT%26T_Stadium
:shrug:
Insomniac
01-15-17, 02:05 PM
I get all that. I just think they'd be better off keeping the number of seats down under 70,000. You're better off selling out games so you can retain season ticket holders and hold the line on ticket prices.
They can just tarp the seats. :D I think a high number of tickets will be going to corporate entities and business people to hand out. I agree the climate has changed in LA for this stuff. There's probably 4M more people in the area now as well. I think it could be a visiting team bastion (like SD has been anyway).
nrc, FYI, that's what it looks like when a PK actually wins a game. :gomer: :\ :irked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtmpcQ-hbxI
Were there any missed kicks yesterday? It's almost as though you should expect your kicker to be automatic inside of 40 yards these days. :shakehead:
Gotta feel for those Chiefs fans. They watch their defense suffering take-downs all night and then the tying score gets called back for holding.
The real question about the AFC championship game is whether it's going to be called according to Patriot rules (no touching the QB or any of the Pat's stars) or the Steeler rules (offensive tackling is permitted and as long as the opposing player's head doesn't come off helmet to helmet contact is not a penalty).
Were there any missed kicks yesterday? It's almost as though you should expect your kicker to be automatic inside of 40 yards these days. :shakehead:
Gotta feel for those Chiefs fans. They watch their defense suffering take-downs all night and then the tying score gets called back for holding.
The real question about the AFC championship game is whether it's going to be called according to Patriot rules (no touching the QB or any of the Pat's stars) or the Steeler rules (offensive tackling is permitted and as long as the opposing player's head doesn't come off helmet to helmet contact is not a penalty).
Bitter, party of one... :tony: ;)
Could be worse...you could be 60 and Clowns fan. :D
The real question about the AFC championship game is whether it's going to be called according to Patriot rules (no touching the QB or any of the Pat's stars) or the Steeler rules (offensive tackling is permitted and as long as the opposing player's head doesn't come off helmet to helmet contact is not a penalty).
if Tom Brady is knocked out of the game by an illegal hit, the Steelers' bus won't make it to the airport.
j/k. Not really.
WickerBill
01-17-17, 07:28 AM
I recall seeing two or three Packers receivers with jerseys pulled off shoulder pads by holding - with no calls. There was some interesting officiating last weekend.
I know Mike Periera rants about this on FOX, but using All-Star crews in the playoffs instead of crews that know each other from the season is spectacularly dumb. It's like they've never watched an All-Star game from any sport.
Insomniac
01-17-17, 11:08 AM
The real question about the AFC championship game is whether it's going to be called according to Patriot rules (no touching the QB or any of the Pat's stars) or the Steeler rules (offensive tackling is permitted and as long as the opposing player's head doesn't come off helmet to helmet contact is not a penalty).
Who beyond Brady (who gets the QB calls treatment) are protected on the Patriots? I'm honestly asking.
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