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Should we start an off-season thread?
Polian talking down Galapago today on M&M. Kiper's latest mock has QB Trubisky (NC) to the 9ers (and Schaub following Shanny out west), ILB Roberts (Bammy) to the Bingles at #9.
EDIT: There's hope for the Clowns yet.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18694252/vince-young-hires-agent-leigh-steinberg-eye-comeback
:gomer: :D :rofl:
Insomniac
02-16-17, 10:33 AM
Polian talking down Galapago today on M&M.
Shocking! He also said he would be a 1st round pick in 2014. I guess he got worse with NFL experience. :D
Shocking! He also said he would be a 1st round pick in 2014. I guess he got worse with NFL experience. :D
It was an interesting discussion. He was basing it on Cassell and Flynn #fails, and basically saying that it's the system that makes the QB in NE (but not downplaying Brady). In any case, it's going to be an interesting game of musical QBs considering Cleveland and Buffalo, the unknown in AZ, the 9ers, and where does Romo go (and J-E-T-S?). IMHO, the QB class in this draft is a C- at best.
I don't get the J-E-T-S. Mangold was their Joe Thomas. Great on field, great off field. :shakehead:
http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/67142/nick-mangold-is-gone-and-the-rebuilding-of-the-jets-is-on
And now there's some talk about Cutler to the J-E-T-S...like that head case QB could handle NYC media. :saywhat:
Insomniac
02-28-17, 11:17 AM
I don't get the J-E-T-S. Mangold was their Joe Thomas. Great on field, great off field. :shakehead:
http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/67142/nick-mangold-is-gone-and-the-rebuilding-of-the-jets-is-on
And now there's some talk about Cutler to the J-E-T-S...like that head case QB could handle NYC media. :saywhat:
I like their mindset was we have 2 years to "make a run" and then we will blow it up and rebuild. That is why you're the Jets and the Patriots own you. The best teams are never rebuilding, they're always trying to improve.
And the J-E-T-S are in total implode mode...Revis gone, Mangold gone, Marshall is next.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18792752/darrelle-revis-released-new-york-jets
Add Cutler to this mess? :shakehead: :saywhat: :rolleyes:
At least the Clowns got draft picks 'clearing the swamp'. Oy.
WickerBill
03-01-17, 08:15 AM
And now there's some talk about Cutler to the J-E-T-S...like that head case QB could handle NYC media. :saywhat:
I think he's perfect for the NY media. Same attitude as Eli, except cranked to 11.
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0175/8784/products/DontCare400w_2048x2048.jpg
Insomniac
03-01-17, 10:16 AM
Revis was a step slow and he quit last year. That should've been a no brainer. People were clamoring for them to move him to safety. They should've done that last year and let someone else try and play better.
Don Quixote
03-01-17, 11:48 AM
https://twitter.com/Super70sSports/status/824017443760709632/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Gnam is :(
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18796373/colin-kaepernick-san-francisco-49ers-opts-contract
:gomer: :D
Guess who's coming to Ohio? :gomer:
Guess who's coming to Ohio? :gomer:
Shizz...not to Cincy. Spring footieball with Johnny Football? :gomer: Crap, I froze my Buckeyes off in circa '92 watching the Cbus team play in The Shoe in March 1992, only to watch tOSU lose to TTUN in hoops for the Final Four bid. :irked: :saywhat: :mad:
Double zero is the perfect number for Kaepernick. :p
https://s3.postimg.org/stdbnrpoz/browns_custom_brown_name_and_number_t_shirt.jpg
Add him to the list of Clowns QBs. Along with TPeezy, which is one of Hue's personal reclamation projects (Raiderz, Cincy, Cleveland). :shakehead: Now if Jackson could have just called a proper play in '15... #FalconsSBfail :irked: :saywhat:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleveland_Browns_starting_quarterbacks
Who is the next dead man walking? :D
Kissing Cousins in SF?
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18793866/kirk-cousins-trade-value-nfl-wide-impact-drama-dc-2017-nfl-offseason
:saywhat:
No Longer in NE...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18799034/chris-long-says-re-sign-new-england-patriots
No Longer in NE...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18799034/chris-long-says-re-sign-new-england-patriots
That makes no sense. Leave for money, or for family, or health. But, to leave so "I can do what I do best"? What does he do best?
That makes no sense. Leave for money, or for family, or health. But, to leave so "I can do what I do best"? What does he do best?
Perhaps he wants to follow in Howie's footsteps...or be like the Golic clan @ E$PN. Strange shizz happens in La La Land...they release Long and Lauranitis. Me thinks they are inhaling some of the 'vapor' from NoCal. ;) :D
Or...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYcqToQzzGY
;)
I guess it's true what they say: Different strokes, for different folks.
http://youtu.be/iAwagCwJj-g
I guess it's true what they say: Different strokes, for different folks.
http://youtu.be/iAwagCwJj-g
Whatcho talkin' 'bout, Willis? ;)
Insomniac
03-02-17, 10:12 AM
That makes no sense. Leave for money, or for family, or health. But, to leave so "I can do what I do best"? What does he do best?
He feels he can contribute a lot more. In New England he was role player by the end of the season. You could argue it is over money because NE sees him as a role player and that means role player money. If another teams sees something more, that's more money.
TKGAngel
03-02-17, 01:16 PM
Who is the next dead man walking? :D
Vic Carucci is reporting that Cleveland & the 49ers are interested in Tyrod Taylor if the Bills let him walk. They have until 3/11 to make a decision.
49ers have no quarterback. 49ers need no quarterback.
Vic Carucci is reporting that Cleveland & the 49ers are interested in Tyrod Taylor if the Bills let him walk. They have until 3/11 to make a decision.
Beware the QB Triangle off Lake Erie....
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/Browns-graveyard1-10-26-15.png
Now spreading east to Buffalo, and hopefully Stealerville soon. My next hope is that Johnny Football finds his way to SF. :p
:gomer: :D
Beware the QB Triangle off Lake Erie....
http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/blogs/Browns-graveyard1-10-26-15.png
Now spreading east to Buffalo, and hopefully Stealerville soon. My next hope is that Johnny Football finds his way to SF. :p
:gomer: :D
Mr. Football is welcome in Santa Fe any time.
Mr. Football is welcome in Santa Fe any time.
Might be better off in Vega$. :gomer: ;)
EDIT: Cutler, Cutler, Cutler... (in the tune of Atica)
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18808233/san-francisco-49ers-released-colin-kaepernick-opt-out
:gomer: ;)
Talk about spring cleaning....
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18810257/new-york-jets-release-wide-receiver-brandon-marshall
Yowza.
And further about re-arranging deck chairs...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18811001/los-angeles-rams-unveil-retro-overhaul-uniforms-helmet
Bugger....
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/01/report-browns-wont-pursue-kaepernick/
:gomer: :D
This is not a 'Magical Day'.
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2017/03/80520/photo-nick-mangold-gets-cut-while-at-disney-world-makes-hilarious-meme
#ElmoT
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Ruh Roh....mock drafted for the Bingles.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/18818375/reuben-foster-alabama-crimson-tide-booted-combine-argument
WTF is up in NY?
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/18817494/new-york-jets-general-manager-mike-maccagnan-says-team-draft-picks-including-no-6-overall-sale
Insomniac
03-04-17, 12:29 PM
When you're clearing out your cap, it's usually guys who were starters in skill positions based on their salary, maybe not skill. One draft pick isn't going to make your team that much better. If you're trying to make your team younger, you need more draft picks to get the most talent. The undrafted pool is a lot harder to tap for talent.
Insomniac
03-04-17, 12:33 PM
Tom Brady:
I found my combine shirt from 17 years ago and it got me thinking. This is what they said about me then..... Poor build, Skinny, Lacks great physical stature and strength, Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush, Lacks a really strong arm, Can’t drive the ball downfield, Does not throw a really tight spiral, System-type player who can get exposed if forced to ad lib, Gets knocked down easily
As Julian Edelman always reminds me ... "You can prove em right or you can prove em wrong!" Good luck to all of you this weekend!!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRLoTIkhdOw/
When you're clearing out your cap, it's usually guys who were starters in skill positions based on their salary, maybe not skill. One draft pick isn't going to make your team that much better. If you're trying to make your team younger, you need more draft picks to get the most talent. The undrafted pool is a lot harder to tap for talent.
The J-E-T-S are just cleaning house w/o much, if anything, in return. At least the Clowns have picks to waste. :gomer: ;)
Ruh Roh....mock drafted for the Bingles.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/18818375/reuben-foster-alabama-crimson-tide-booted-combine-argument
Linebacker gets angry - News at Eleven.
Linebacker gets angry - News at Eleven.
Burfict Jr.? :saywhat: Just not another Keith Rivers. :irked:
Insomniac
03-04-17, 05:21 PM
The J-E-T-S are just cleaning house w/o much, if anything, in return. At least the Clowns have picks to waste. :gomer: ;)
That's the kind of sad thing. Cleveland had guys they could trade that didn't want to be there or they didn't want. So they were trading away talent with good contracts. The Jets couldn't trade any of those guys in some combination of talent and contract, no one wants them. They both hurt themselves, but in different ways, but at least Cleveland got something back in return for it. The thing with the NFL is, the only time you make "right now" moves is in season to address a specific problem. Outside of that, every move has to be long term or you're hurting yourself. It's hard to buy a championship in the NFL. How many teams have done it in the last 15 years? 1? (Denver)
That's the kind of sad thing. Cleveland had guys they could trade that didn't want to be there or they didn't want. So they were trading away talent with good contracts. The Jets couldn't trade any of those guys in some combination of talent and contract, no one wants them. They both hurt themselves, but in different ways, but at least Cleveland got something back in return for it. The thing with the NFL is, the only time you make "right now" moves is in season to address a specific problem. Outside of that, every move has to be long term or you're hurting yourself. It's hard to buy a championship in the NFL. How many teams have done it in the last 15 years? 1? (Denver)
NE at the $ Store? ;) :gomer: Revis == damaged goods. Mangold has value, as does Marshall, but I don't know the contract issues for them. Anything like Tyrod (Bills) or Melo (NBA) for the Knicks, not trade worthy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVv94T5LF0c
:)
EDIT: the E$PN chatterbots were discussing Marshall Friday...calling out his reduced production. Who the heck was throwing to him wee-to-week? #morons :\
Insomniac
03-04-17, 07:05 PM
NE at the $ Store? ;) :gomer: Revis == damaged goods. Mangold has value, as does Marshall, but I don't know the contract issues for them. Anything like Tyrod (Bills) or Melo (NBA) for the Knicks, not trade worthy.
EDIT: the E$PN chatterbots were discussing Marshall Friday...calling out his reduced production. Who the heck was throwing to him wee-to-week? #morons :\
Mangold was at $9M for next year and Marshall was $7.5M. If you're a team, what do you give up to acquire either of them at those contracts (they both had 1 year left)? I'm not saying either is done, but trading them would be hard. So they keep them at the contract, try to get them to take a pay cut or release them. Revis was 15M for 2017. Teams are better off letting the Jets cut them and then sign them with no compensation and they don't even count as free agent signings for compensatory pick calculations.
The $ store isn't buying a championship. :) NE is sitting on almost 70M in cap space right now.
The $ store isn't buying a championship. :) NE is sitting on almost 70M in cap space right now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah...cheapskates. :p They'll have ~$100m once they release Brady to sign with Denver next season. :gomer: :D
NYJ gots some serious issues...#Brownsesque.
Insomniac
03-05-17, 12:28 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah...cheapskates. :p They'll have ~$100m once they release Brady to sign with Denver next season. :gomer: :D
NYJ gots some serious issues...#Brownsesque.
Next year is probably the first year they could do it. He'd cost $27M to cut/trade this season and $14M next season (net zero on the cap). But, they're reportedly talking about a contract extension even though his current contract runs through 2019 when he'll be 42. :saywhat: Brady has never taken a pay cut, so I'm not sure what the plan is there...
And away we go...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18852443/wide-receiver-brandon-marshall-agrees-two-year-deal-new-york-giants-worth-12-million
Insomniac
03-08-17, 12:13 PM
And away we go...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18852443/wide-receiver-brandon-marshall-agrees-two-year-deal-new-york-giants-worth-12-million
I figured he'd end up there because he wants to keep working on Inside the NFL. I'm not sure his talent makes many teams want to allow for that too.
I figured he'd end up there because he wants to keep working on Inside the NFL. I'm not sure his talent makes many teams want to allow for that too.
But think about the possibilities...you pair him up with PacMan for a show. That's worth the price of admission. ;)
TKGAngel
03-08-17, 02:58 PM
Cross Tyrod off the potential FA QB list. The Bills just announced that they've restructured his deal and he is staying.
Cross Tyrod off the potential FA QB list. The Bills just announced that they've restructured his deal and he is staying.
Y'all gots one NUTTY GM. :saywhat: And I thought the Mike Brown Bunch were screwed up.... :gomer: :shakehead:
Cross Tyrod off the potential FA QB list. The Bills just announced that they've restructured his deal and he is staying.
Aww nuts...
I was hoping the 49ers had a shot at picking him up. Now all that's left is hiring the Redskins' offense. Super.
Aww nuts...
I was hoping the 49ers had a shot at picking him up. Now all that's left is hiring the Redskins' offense. Super.
Don't lose hope yet...ya still have the Vince Young comeback. :gomer: #82 and #89 SBs :irked: :mad: :flaming: ;)
Insomniac
03-08-17, 05:05 PM
And Brian Hoyer.
Insomniac
03-08-17, 07:59 PM
Dwayne Allen :confused: Ugh.
And Brian Hoyer.
Dats Brady's replacement. ;)
WickerBill
03-08-17, 11:36 PM
Dwayne Allen :confused: Ugh.
Like him or not, you stole him.
TKGAngel
03-09-17, 09:11 AM
Aww nuts...I was hoping the 49ers had a shot at picking him up. Now all that's left is hiring the Redskins' offense. Super.
Allegedly y'all are picking up Marquise Goodwin from the Bills for $8 million or so.
Y'all gots one NUTTY GM.
The new plan theoretically is to keep Whaley out of the spotlight and let McDermott be the voice of management, which all stems from that disastrous press conference earlier this year. We'll see how that goes.
The new plan theoretically is to keep Whaley out of the spotlight and let McDermott be the voice of management, which all stems from that disastrous press conference earlier this year. We'll see how that goes.
Dump his ass over the Falls in a barrel with cement shoes. How in the he has a job not asking 'Do you want fries with that?' is beyond me. :saywhat: :shakehead:
And Romo watch officially begins...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18854803/dallas-cowboys-release-tony-romo-thursday
Insomniac
03-09-17, 10:23 AM
Like him or not, you stole him.
In terms of the Colts paying the signing bonus and/or the Patriots effectively sending a middle of the 5th round pick for him? But on the field, they just acquired a blocker for $5M/yr? Doesn't even seem like Gronk insurance. Just seems odd to me.
Edit: Fleecing the Colts doesn't make me feel better BTW. :D
Ruh Roh, nrc....
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/3/9/14868310/report-bengals-left-tackle-andrew-whitworth-expected-to-sign-with-la-rams
:(
In terms of the Colts paying the signing bonus and/or the Patriots effectively sending a middle of the 5th round pick for him? But on the field, they just acquired a blocker for $5M/yr? Doesn't even seem like Gronk insurance. Just seems odd to me.
Edit: Fleecing the Colts doesn't make me feel better BTW. :D
Trading for the TE is insurance when Brady is chucking deflated balls from a wheel chair. :gomer: ;) :p
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After over a decade in Cincinnati, #Bengals captain Andrew Whitworth is heading west for L.A. to play for the #Rams http://cin.ci/2mpfBf9
****. :saywhat: :irked: :mad: :( Mother fusbucket!
EDIT: And it gets worse...
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/3/9/14869144/kevin-zeitler-choosing-saints-browns
In baseball, we call this the hot fire stove season...
Cutler out...
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=1-18864266
Cousins wants trade from wacky 'skins...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18863192/kirk-cousins-requesting-trade-washington-redskins
Based on the chatterbots this AM...WB should be looking into a #9 jersey... ;)
Plot thickens....
Rottenweiler to the Cleveland QB Graveyard. :eek: Decks cleared for Romo to Texans.
Insomniac
03-09-17, 05:41 PM
:rofl: They traded Osweiller AND a 2018 2nd and got back (effectively) a pick at the top of the 6th round.
Actual pick swap was #142 (4th) for #188 (6th), HOU moved up 46 spots. All that to just get rid of his contract (instead of cutting him with the guarantees).
:rofl: They traded Osweiller AND a 2018 2nd and got back (effectively) a pick at the top of the 6th round.
Actual pick swap was #142 (4th) for #188 (6th), HOU moved up 46 spots. All that to just get rid of his contract (instead of cutting him with the guarantees).
Romo lottery pick. If'n they had a QB last season, Pats are toast. :gomer:
****. :saywhat: :irked: :mad: :( Mother fusbucket!
EDIT: And it gets worse...
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/3/9/14869144/kevin-zeitler-choosing-saints-browns
I'm not surprised by Zeitler. When have the Bengals ever paid a guard? Just ask Max Montoya.
Whit really hurts. On one hand it sucks that the team couldn't make it happen. On the other hand Whit is ditching a much better chance to compete in the post season (for at least a game ( ;) ) in favor of just a few million more in guaranteed money. He'll eat that up in groceries out in LaLa land.
I'm he has full confidence that he's going to reap the full three years and $36 million on that deal. But he may yet discover that nobody in the NFL pays sticks with deals like the Bengals do.
I'm not surprised by Zeitler. When have the Bengals ever paid a guard? Just ask Max Montoya.
Whit really hurts. On one hand it sucks that the team couldn't make it happen. On the other hand Whit is ditching a much better chance to compete in the post season (for at least a game ( ;) ) in favor of just a few million more in guaranteed money. He'll eat that up in groceries out in LaLa land.
I'm he has full confidence that he's going to reap the full three years and $36 million on that deal. But he may yet discover that nobody in the NFL pays sticks with deals like the Bengals do.
Don't go there on Max. Best OL...Munoz, Max, Blados, Walter. If it weren't for Wilson and Krums, plus yer boy Billups dropping that pick :gomer: ;) Ifs and butts were candy and nuts...
Whit hurts on many levels. He was leader on the OL and in the locker room. :\
Crumbling before our eyes
I'm all for allowing aging players to move on, assuming that younger replacements are on hand. But it's difficult to understand the Cincinnati Bengals' strategy over the past two offseasons, during which time they've dissembled a good portion of the offense that helped them make the playoffs for five consecutive seasons from 2011 to 2015.
Last year, they bid farewell to receivers Marvin Jones and Mohamed Sanu along with right tackle Andre Smith, and then saw their offense drop to No. 21 in scoring from No. 4 in 2016. Thursday, they lost two members of their starting offensive line: tackle Andrew Whitworth and guard Kevin Zeitler. Whitworth is 35, but he is still a really good player, and the Bengals badly misjudged his value on the market. And if you think Cedric Ogbuehi is a reliable replacement, you're fooling yourself.
Barring a draft full of hits, the Bengals are going in the wrong direction from a personnel perspective.
http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/232946/nfl-day-1-free-agency-winners-and-losers
#oldmangrumbles #andgetoffmylawn
:irked: :shakehead: :( :saywhat:
But hey, we still have Jeremy Hill. He's got a great reverse gear. :gomer: :\
Well, this answers the question about the 'skins MIA GM at the combine...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18867665/scot-mccloughan-washington-redskins-fired-general-manager
What a mess in DC. :shakehead:
Insomniac
03-10-17, 09:12 AM
Romo lottery pick. If'n they had a QB last season, Pats are toast. :gomer:
The Pats would've need a lot less ifs to play a whole lot better. :P
Insomniac
03-10-17, 09:13 AM
Well, this answers the question about the 'skins MIA GM at the combine...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18867665/scot-mccloughan-washington-redskins-fired-general-manager
What a mess in DC. :shakehead:
They live for chaos it seems. For a moment it seemed like they turned things around.
From the NSS file...
http://www.cincyjungle.com/2017/3/9/14870592/bengals-concerned-about-free-agent-departures
:irked:
nrc might be flying his 'Fire Mike Brown' banner again. :gomer: ;)
And RGIII going bye-bye....
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18873606/robert-griffin-iii-released-cleveland-browns
Insomniac
03-11-17, 10:36 AM
Well, the Patriots have lost their minds this offseason.
In Belichick's 18th offseason he has:
Acquired his 4th big free agent signing (previously Rosevelt Colvin, Adailus Thomas, Darelle Revis) with CB Stephon Gilmore giving him the largest guaranteed money to a FA (from NE)
Traded away his 1st round pick for Brandin Cooks
Traded multiple other picks for other players, Kony Ealy and Dwayne Allen
Have no draft picks in the 1st or 2nd round
This is a lot of atypical stuff. Are they zagging while everyone zigs? Are they "loading up" for Brady's final year(s)?
Well, the Patriots have lost their minds this offseason.
In Belichick's 18th offseason he has:
Acquired his 4th big free agent signing (previously Rosevelt Colvin, Adailus Thomas, Darelle Revis) with CB Stephon Gilmore giving him the largest guaranteed money to a FA (from NE)
Traded away his 1st round pick for Brandin Cooks
Traded multiple other picks for other players, Kony Ealy and Dwayne Allen
Have no draft picks in the 1st or 2nd round
This is a lot of atypical stuff. Are they zagging while everyone zigs? Are they "loading up" for Brady's final year(s)?
In some ways it seems in tune with his philosophy which seems to be that high picks are over-rated. Especially when you're routinely picking near the bottom of each round. There are plenty of players talented enough to be role players if they execute the plan. You need players good enough to keep the opponent honest across the board and then you can use scheme to generate mismatches.
Domata Peko leaves Cincinnati for Denver. I hate to see him go as a locker room leader but he was probably going to be at most a run down backup this season. Denver's reported $4 million average for two years isn't worth paying for sentimentality.
Meanwhile, Andrew Witworth's farewell interview with the Cincinnati media seemed bizarre. So much about how he loved the Bengals and didn't want to leave, wants to retire a Bengal, didn't want to leave his guys like Carson Palmer, etc, etc. I don't see a way to square that with the move unless he's absolutely confident that he's going to collect the full $40 million on his new contract or completely naive about the way that most teams besides the Bengals handle NFL contracts. Probably a mostly the former with some of the latter.
Domata Peko leaves Cincinnati for Denver. I hate to see him go as a locker room leader but he was probably going to be at most a run down backup this season. Denver's reported $4 million average for two years isn't worth paying for sentimentality.
Meanwhile, Andrew Witworth's farewell interview with the Cincinnati media seemed bizarre. So much about how he loved the Bengals and didn't want to leave, wants to retire a Bengal, didn't want to leave his guys like Carson Palmer, etc, etc. I don't see a way to square that with the move unless he's absolutely confident that he's going to collect the full $40 million on his new contract or completely naive about the way that most teams besides the Bengals handle NFL contracts. Probably a mostly the former with some of the latter.
But hey...we still have Hill and Pacmunch. :shakehead: :irked: :mad: :\ :saywhat:
But hey...we still have Hill and Pacmunch. :shakehead: :irked: :mad: :\ :saywhat:
And they are both - say it with me - under contract. This is what I don't know if Whitworth gets. The Brown family will give you more second chances and values continuity more than any other team in the league. They will hang onto a player who is being paid more than they are worth until their contract is up or they are flat beat out in training camp. The Rams will cut Whitworth the second he is worth less than his contract value.
And they are both - say it with me - under contract. This is what I don't know if Whitworth gets. The Brown family will give you more second chances and values continuity more than any other team in the league. They will hang onto a player who is being paid more than they are worth until their contract is up or they are flat beat out in training camp. The Rams will cut Whitworth the second he is worth less than his contract value.
Reverting back to the 90s? :saywhat: :shakehead: :thumbdown:
Insomniac
03-13-17, 08:58 AM
In some ways it seems in tune with his philosophy which seems to be that high picks are over-rated. Especially when you're routinely picking near the bottom of each round. There are plenty of players talented enough to be role players if they execute the plan. You need players good enough to keep the opponent honest across the board and then you can use scheme to generate mismatches.
I can't really argue with what he does, but he'd probably like 1st round picks a lot better if they weren't below #20 every year. Perhaps it speaks to either the quality of the WRs in the draft or NE's lack of ability to draft a WR, but I'd expect them to see better value in drafting a WR with #32 and have them on a rookie deal for 4 years with a 5th year option versus trading it for a player on the last year of a rookie deal with a 5th year option. That guy could be gone in 2 years. This seems like loading up versus say 2007 where they were fixing a huge problem with WR. It's just something that doesn't quite square with a long term view generally employed.
Reverting back to the 90s? :saywhat: :shakehead: :thumbdown:
That has never really changed much. The talent they've brought in and what they've been able to do with them has changed since Lewis and Tobin arrived. Katie Blackburn does a little better at retaining top talent in key positions when they're in their prime. But they guard that cap number like it's the one ring. They don't risk dead money and they won't write contracts for longer than they think they will keep a player.
That has never really changed much. The talent they've brought in and what they've been able to do with them has changed since Lewis and Tobin arrived. Katie Blackburn does a little better at retaining top talent in key positions when they're in their prime. But they guard that cap number like it's the one ring. They don't risk dead money and they won't write contracts for longer than they think they will keep a player.
Ring? What ring? Precious, My Precious... :gomer:
I still have night quakes about Shula, Klinger and Akili. :saywhat: :irked: :shakehead: :(
http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Plan-B-Mr-Smith-visits-Cincinnati-again/d1116551-e3e4-43b1-be84-7eadf920934d?campaign=cin:fanshare:twitter
:saywhat:
http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Plan-B-Mr-Smith-visits-Cincinnati-again/d1116551-e3e4-43b1-be84-7eadf920934d?campaign=cin:fanshare:twitter
:saywhat:
Glad to see The Margus Hunt Project finally ending the Cincinnati leg of his tour. I hope it might be something but it never ever was. See previous post re: contracts.
Smith - don't know whether he's still under 400 pounds but when he left Cincy he was better than any tackle they have on the roster today.
Meanwhile: O-H! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU3vuXMSk3U (Possibly NSFW)
Meanwhile: O-H! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU3vuXMSk3U (Possibly NSFW)
:shakehead: This might literally start WWIII.
To defuse the situation and punish the guilty, I move the Cowboys be forced to hire Colin Kaepernick as their starting QB and trade Dak Prescott to the Browns. ;)
Meanwhile: O-H! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU3vuXMSk3U (Possibly NSFW)
:irked: :\
I have a local friend that ran into Zeke with his son recently, and he was he was very open to autographs.
stroker
03-14-17, 09:17 PM
Man, the Packers are taking it with NO lube on losing their guys right now...
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/15/bengals-carlos-dunlap-i-dont-see-the-plan/
And Burkhead to the Pats?!? I'm losing it here. :irked: :mad: :saywhat:
Insomniac
03-15-17, 01:11 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/15/bengals-carlos-dunlap-i-dont-see-the-plan/
And Burkhead to the Pats?!? I'm losing it here. :irked: :mad: :saywhat:
You're losing it over your 3rd RB?
Insomniac
03-15-17, 03:29 PM
Patriots end up keeping Hightower. Now if they could just be reasonable and extend Malcolm Butler instead of trading him (or at least not trade him) that can put an exclamation point on free agency. Draft a power back and start the Blitz for Six!
You're losing it over your 3rd RB?
IMHO, he was #2. But hey, we still have Fumbling Hill. :\ It's more the loss of talent...a constant drip. :irked: :saywhat:
Great. Now who in the bleep are you gonna sign? :saywhat: :shakehead:
http://www.espn.com/blog/cincinnati-bengals/post/_/id/26240/by-releasing-two-veterans-bengals-could-open-11-2m-in-cap-space
IMHO, he was #2. But hey, we still have Fumbling Hill. :\ It's more the loss of talent...a constant drip. :irked: :saywhat:
Indications are that Rex wasn't terribly interested in signing with the Bengals. He wanted to go someplace where he would get more playing time. Short of cutting Hill that wasn't going to happen - at least not once Gio completes rehab.
Indications are that Rex wasn't terribly interested in signing with the Bengals. He wanted to go someplace where he would get more playing time. Short of cutting Hill that wasn't going to happen - at least not once Gio completes rehab.
I suspected that towards the end of last season. He was displaying his wares. I'm just :( that what was a deep pool of talent has been greatly depleted, and we have what...Andre Smith and Dre (aka: Toast) to show for it? :irked: :shakehead: This is rebuild era time. :saywhat: And by the time they reload, it will be time to replace Red Rifle. :mad:
Welp, there's that...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18944982/cincinnati-bengals-signing-linebacker-kevin-minter
May answer the question of the 1st round pick....but the pickings are slim for an OL. Shouldn't have let Whit walk. #Idiots :irked: :saywhat: :shakehead:
Insomniac
03-19-17, 11:25 AM
Rumblings of a Skittles unretirement with a desire to play for the Raiders.
Rumblings of a Skittles unretirement with a desire to play for the Raiders.
I heard some squawk talk this AM about LA, Jr., too. (formerly TG's Chargers). :gomer: :confused:
Insomniac
03-19-17, 03:28 PM
If Revis signs with the Pats for the league minimum, the NFL may want to watch out, he'll be on a one man mission against the naysayers.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18954154/spike-lee-calls-nfl-teams-failure-sign-free-agent-qb-colin-kaepernick
Spike... Srsly? :shakehead:
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