Hold on to your breakfast.... [Archive]

mapguy

02-14-04, 01:27 PM

Winston Wolfe

02-14-04, 01:46 PM

http://www.latphotomedia.com/toyota/gallery/irl/albums/20040128/levitt_sdampan.sized.jpg

Is it me or do G-Force and Dallara have some type of competition to see who can produce the biggest turd?

http://www.latphotomedia.com/toyota/gallery/irl/albums/20040211/abbott_manpan.sized.jpg

That Pimpski car is possibly the WORST incarnation, or saddest excuse for an OW car that I have seen, possibly EVER...

Target car aint so bad, but they got nuthin' on the LOLAs that OWRS got. Cant wait to see 'em, along with the new line-up in LB in a few weeks.

lone_groover

02-14-04, 02:03 PM

Just be grateful that the I*L safety commission nixed the idea of letting the wankers wear Hap Jones pudding bowl helmets.

Imagine Sham's gruesome mug grinning in some goggles....bringing the UGLY!

:cry: :thumdown: :cry:

Don Quixote

02-14-04, 02:25 PM

The words "ugly" and "hideous" fall way short of doing these wankermobiles justice. BTW, rumor has it that the hump behind the airbox is for storing koolaide.

fourrunner

02-14-04, 02:36 PM

This is a car that was Definitely designed by a committee at the "Overbrook School for the Blind"!!

A Rolling Platypus !!

IlliniRacer

02-14-04, 02:40 PM

I think I get. When Penske lies, the nose of the car grows!

Sean O'Gorman

02-14-04, 02:52 PM

The sidepods on that G-Force look like origami. :eek:

Mike Kellner

02-14-04, 02:56 PM

How can you look sideways to see who is alongside? In a series where they have contrived to have lap after lap of side by side action, I would think it essential for the driver to be able to see sideways.

On the otherhand, realizing you are side by side with Sarah might be so scary, that the drivers would rather not know.

mk

racer2c

02-14-04, 03:19 PM

I believe that this is a prelude to having no airbox at all. Hell, they've copied every other thing CART did. Might as well 'ease' out of their airbox.

fourrunner

02-14-04, 03:30 PM

The Target car looks much better but it still looks "cheap" and pasted together. If the "Fit & Finish" is anything like the previous incarnations, Crapwagon will still apply!

They still look like a 1st grade Art Project that went terribly wrong!! :eek:

4wheeldrifter

02-14-04, 03:31 PM

Good night nurse is that Poopski car ugly. Makes some of the odder 70's F1 concoctions look downright aesthetic. Looks like it'd be as fast on the ground as in the air, rather like a lawn jart. Let's hope nobody gets to find out. :shakehead

oddlycalm

02-14-04, 04:40 PM

This is simply the natural and inevitable process of the cars starting to resemble the EARL fans; size 3 hat over pointy head, big ears, 48" waist, cheap size 13 trainers, with no style whatsoever.

oc

Hard Driver

02-14-04, 04:46 PM

I think I get. When Penske lies, the nose of the car grows!
:rofl: :rofl: :laugh: :laugh:

Insomniac

02-14-04, 05:13 PM

This is a car that was Definitely designed by a committee at the "Overbrook School for the Blind"!!

A Rolling Platypus !!

How dare you! You know they could design a better looking car than those things!

Racing Truth

02-14-04, 05:24 PM

That nose. Well, uh, wow! That's all I can really say. :eek: :thumdown:

The engine cover is supposed to change come Indy, but that Dallara nose, sadly, will be with us all year. :shakehead

Artemus

02-14-04, 05:35 PM

I always thought that people were overstating the ugliness of the IRL cars. Until now. Those things are truly hideous. The nose on the Penske car looks like something out of Mad magazine.

Racing Truth

02-14-04, 06:20 PM

Correction, the cowling WILL NOT change for Indy. Only the hole for the 3.5s will be covered.

racer2c

02-14-04, 06:36 PM

I have a buddy that does spy photography that was able to snap this very secret Pimpski. Tell me that aren't ready for some road courses now! :)

http://members.cox.net/34onyx/images/four_wheel_penske

devilmaster

02-14-04, 06:51 PM

http://members.cox.net/34onyx/images/four_wheel_penske

Tyrrell must be rolling around in his grave.... :rofl:

Steve

JT265

02-14-04, 07:15 PM

GAWWWWWWWWWW!!!!! My eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Oh, and Racing Truth, these sorry attempts at knock-off race cars in fact WON'T be with those of us that have the ability to change channels.

Just an FYI you understand. ;)

PS: I'm thinking Pimske is using that duck-billed platypus action to leverage more downforce on the front end?

Ank/Hoop, :D, maybe you could elaborate?

Ankf00

02-14-04, 07:39 PM

<enter obligatory bull**** "award winning" story here to prove you ppl are consumed with IRL hate and are deficient human beings>

now you must enter my excell code in the same exact manner as I enter here, and then you must create a 3-D scatter plot.

Big_Ass_on_Car == Sarah_Inspired
Small_Airbox == Average_Lemming_"Male_Deficiency"_Inspired
Huge_Sidepods == Average_Gomer_Waistline (sorry steve:D)
Big_Numbers == Inversely_Proportional_to_Small_Lemming_Brains
Oversized_Pointy_Nose == How_TG_Gives_it_to_Helio_at_Night

plot entries 1 through 5 in a 3-D scatter plot and excell should yield a graphic resembling what your toilet bowl contains in the morning, or what you ate last nite, hopefully it wasn't corn...

[/bull**** off]

to remedy aforementioned problem, buy one of this, and park it at your local IRL oval.

http://www.mining-technology.com/contractor_images/erlau/image-3.jpg

seriously though, I don't know anything about the car, but the nose is pretty thin I think. I don't think there's enough area on the top surface of that nose to accumulate enough down-pressure to create downforce worth a damn, then again, every little bit helps... I'd guess it's just to aid in making the car nominally slipperier and to help direct flow over the car itself

JT265

02-14-04, 07:44 PM

If that guy single-handedly tossed those wheel chains on that tire, I'm gonna call him Mister Sir!

:D

BobN

02-14-04, 08:20 PM

Geez, the 6 wheeler looks less "photoshopped" than the real thing. :laugh: What is with the lenght of the nose? I wonder where they put the transponder. Sham or Helio could win by a "nose" and still not trip the timing if it's behind the front wheel. :shakehead

RaceGrrl

02-14-04, 08:22 PM

OMG, that is one fugly car. It's sad.... just very very sad. Funny thing is, the photoshopped pic doesn't look that much worse. Maybe Gil decided to retire when he saw the design for this season's ride. Who could blame him.

Railbird

02-14-04, 09:54 PM

racer2c

02-14-04, 09:59 PM

Brickman

02-15-04, 12:30 AM

Very Ugly Cars.

rabbit

02-15-04, 01:00 AM

Anteater

02-15-04, 01:09 AM

Is it me or do G-Force and Dallara have some type of competition to see who can produce the biggest turd?
I think it's Penske, by a nose. ;) Dang, I thought last year's IRL cars were ugly, but that new Marlboro car is going to give me nightmares!

nz_climber

02-15-04, 05:36 AM

those are the uglyiest cars ever!! :eek: :saywhat:

RTKar

02-15-04, 10:43 AM

Yikes, one ugly missile....Wasn't there a treaty signed banning those things being launced?..............There should be.

JT265

02-15-04, 10:44 AM

The old axiom "take pride in your ride" has been irretrievably lost on those in Marion county.

cart7

02-15-04, 11:41 AM

Really fella's, next time post a better warning before putting up these type of images.

I'm going to petition WB to add 's of earl cars to the list, along with political threads, of things we just don't post here.

uggghhh......... [IMG]http://cmw.dailymoviereviews.com/otn/puke/repuke.gif

Racing Truth

02-15-04, 12:28 PM

This is your brain...
http://www.cart.com/content/photos/2001/By800/20010630P_0005.jpg
http://www.cart.com/content/photos/2001/By800/20010629P_0006.jpg

This is your brain on crap...

http://www.latphotomedia.com/toyota/gallery/irl/albums/20040128/levitt_sdampan.sized.jpg
http://www.latphotomedia.com/toyota/gallery/irl/albums/20040211/abbott_manpan.sized.jpg

Any questions?

:laugh: :laugh:

Yeah, Bird's right. These might be the worst looking things ever. For some reason, the Penske paint job just even more so exposes the fugliness of them. AGR's Wheldon paint scheme hides some of it. But they're all just fugly. Esp. Dallara

Eagle104

02-15-04, 12:41 PM

disgusting and offensive.

....just throw another abomination on the pile.

good choices of manus, toni. the tradition(s) continues.....

oddlycalm

02-15-04, 12:53 PM

Ya gotta know that some long-time Penske folks did the big eyeroll when this thing was unveiled.

Most of the fans I still know from the days when Mark Donohue drove gave up being Penske fans long before he left for the IRL. I certainly did. What was painful was seeing people we were aquainted with, and that had integrity and talent, have to do Roger's bidding as things got progressively farther afield. Nothing he could do would surprise me, although without forums to inform me I'd never know about any of it, because I simply don't pay any attention.

oc

cart7

02-15-04, 01:57 PM

Damatta would need a booster seat just to see over the cowling.

What gives with these tub sides raised up to eyeball level anyway? Another couple inches and they'll have to drive with periscopes.
http://www.latphotomedia.com/toyota/gallery/irl/albums/20040211/abbott_manpan.sized.jpg

nz_climber

02-15-04, 03:08 PM

Must make them safer when launching them at a catch fence :gomer:

Ankf00

02-15-04, 03:19 PM

they need all the extra beef they can get on the car for crash-worthiness, all the extra foam around the head they can get too

Racewriter

02-15-04, 03:30 PM

What's funny is that earlier today I checked this thread out quickly without taking the time to let the photos load. "Just the usual crapwagon=ugly stuff" I thought.

Tonight I waited for the pics

WOW!

those are some ugly freakin cars.

I've always thought they were kind of homely but this latest version is painful.

Ya gotta know that some long-time Penske folks did the big eyeroll when this thing was unveiled.

Exactly my thoughts, Bird. I've heard this "IRL cars are ugly" stuff for years, and in all honesty, they've never impressed me much one way or another - I mean, there have been plenty of CART cars over the past decade that didn't seem to be pageant contestants. But, they were what they were, and visual cues were minor.

But Jeezus, those things are awful...

TrueBrit

02-15-04, 07:34 PM

Please tell me they were just having a larf?? :eek:

Those are quite possibly the ugliest cars I have ever seen....

What's with the swordfish nose?? :confused:

I guess the only saving grace for the unfortunate souls that have to drive those things is that Mikey Andretti has hung up his helmet..I mean with a nose THAT long he could spear not just the car directly in front of him, but the car in front of that one too!!!

Wow! I am simply flabbergasted at how friggin' awful those things are...

With almost zero peripheral vision I guess the spotters will be REAL busy this year!!!

If you sat down and actually tried to design the most aesthetically offensive open-wheel car this is as close as you could get..but to actually then PRODUCE the damn things is inhumane....Can you imagine what an entire grid of those things will look like??? Ouch!!

lone_groover

02-15-04, 08:56 PM

This year's evolution of the I*L spec further proves Mies's maxim about form following function. After all, what indeed IS the function of a CrapWagon?

:thumdown:

RaceGrrl

02-15-04, 09:40 PM

Who needs peripheral vision when the idiot grandson's "vision" dictates the winners and losers. :rolleyes:

JT265

02-15-04, 09:45 PM

Who needs peripheral vision when the idiot grandson's "vision" dictates the winners and losers. :rolleyes:

Good point Grrl, BUT, I can see the mondo sidepods providing an excuse for everyones fave, DNFisher. ie:

"I'm sooooooooooo soooooooooooooooorry that I couldn't see the wall coming up like it did."

;)

Andrew Longman

02-16-04, 11:25 AM

The sidepods on that G-Force look like origami. :eek:

Or lego

Chaos

02-16-04, 11:41 AM

what's the IRL's policy on cars? do the constructors build models and show the IRL? Even the constructors have gotta think these cars are anti-pretty.

ferrarigod

02-16-04, 01:50 PM

That is seriously the ugliest race car ever made. Those fugly things make a nascar look great. oh my, oh my. What were they thinking. THey chop the air box, I'm guessing to "prevent" it from flying, even though they say they don't fly because of the design of the car, then Penske goes and does this.

Seriously, what happened to the rule about car designs can only change every few years to help contain costs. So now they have new engines again a break in the rules for the 2nd year after the Cosworth sham, and now Penske is allowed to "improve" his car in the middle of a rules thing.

THis is great, C^RT imploded because of the ever changing rules, and bad leadership, yet tg in all his wisdom thinks he can do it better.

Where is that puke icon, these things are ugly. Oh yea, and I showed it to my friend, she doesn't think that Formula 1 cars are great, even though she does appreciate Ferrari's car, but she thinks that is the ugliest thing ever. She likes GT and Saloon cars better, but not Nascar, I am teaching her right. She also likes watching F1 she just doesn't see the design as appealing but can relate to its technology, those 2 things are horrible. OH GOD, i can't even take it

Overall Rating: :thumdown:
If You like it: You must love the Koolade(truthdetector and irlindyman or whomever those people are)

02-16-04, 02:22 PM

First thing I thought of upon seeing The Penske car was the Wright Bro's plane, with the "tail" in the front. :shakehead

tx-racefan

02-16-04, 03:55 PM

This year's evolution of the I*L spec further proves Mies's maxim about form following function. After all, what indeed IS the function of a CrapWagon?

:thumdown:
well, that depends. what, exactly, do you mean by IS??

B. C.

Ankf00

02-16-04, 05:56 PM

yo fg, both chassis have that new airbox styling, not just penske, the other pic is of ganassi's chassis

rabbit

02-16-04, 06:03 PM

I guess the only saving grace for the unfortunate souls that have to drive those things is that Mikey Andretti has hung up his helmet..I mean with a nose THAT long he could spear not just the car directly in front of him, but the car in front of that one too!!!
:rofl: :laugh: :rofl:

Purple Panic

02-17-04, 10:26 AM

I think they just wanted to get their money out of going to the "hand" car wash....

Seriously, I think they're trying to "break away" from the whole champ car image and trying to make their cars look more like F1 cars...not that they're succeeding very well, but they've got to be spinning their wheels for some reason....

Brickman

02-17-04, 11:19 AM

The cars are plain ugly. I hope that after the 3.0 arrives the body shape at least reverts back.

JLMannin

02-17-04, 12:48 PM

NOW I know what they were talking about on those TV commercials so long ago:

The triumph TR-7: the shape of things to come.

The Penske car must be the TR-8 :thumdown:

Brickman

02-17-04, 01:27 PM

http://www.brochures.fsnet.co.uk/tr7.jpg

chop456

02-17-04, 01:36 PM

NOW I know what they were talking about on those TV commercials so long ago:

The triumph TR-7: the shape of things to come.

The Penske car must be the TR-8 :thumdown:

The TR-8 actually existed. If memory serves, ironically enough it was powered by a 3.5L

Racewriter

02-17-04, 05:17 PM

The TR-8 actually existed. If memory serves, ironically enough it was powered by a 3.5L

Yep. The Buick/Rover V8.

Steve99

02-17-04, 05:53 PM

That Penske car has to be the ugliest race car ever. It actually looks better with 6 wheels (at least the nose makes sense that way).

rabbit

02-18-04, 01:44 AM

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl/2004/ot/irl-2004-ot-eg-0213.jpg

RaceGrrl

02-19-04, 01:00 AM

Oh, how the mighty have fallen...

http://www.motorsport.com/photos/irl/2004/ot/irl-2004-ot-eg-0213.jpg

http://www.cart.com/content/photos/2002/By800/20021101P_0011.jpg

pchall

02-19-04, 08:36 AM

Looks like Racegrrl gets the final thousand words on this subject just by linking one additional image.

chop456

02-19-04, 08:42 AM

Wynona......Ashley. ;)

indyfan31

02-19-04, 11:00 AM

Wynona......Ashley. ;)
Ok, now THAT was mean .... but damn funny.

How 'bout: A-10 ..... F-16

Brickman

02-19-04, 11:55 AM

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~enigman/images/platypus.gif

rabbit

02-19-04, 12:03 PM

chop, now that was funny!

How 'bout: A-10 ..... F-16Poor comparison, IMHO. While the A10 aint purty or fast, it is one bad@$$ plane.
Howzabout F-16 ...... The Givaudan circular aeroplane
http://invention.psychology.msstate.edu/i/Givaudan/photos/Givaudan.jpeg

Sean O'Gorman

02-19-04, 12:49 PM

Wait a second, the one with LESSER flying ability is being compared to the IRL car!? ;)

nrc

02-19-04, 01:10 PM

chop, now that was funny!
Poor comparison, IMHO. While the A10 aint purty or fast, it is one bad@$$ plane.
Howzabout F-16 ...... The Givaudan circular aeroplane

Not to mention the fact that A10s are know for coming back to earth with their pilots in one piece.

Ankf00

02-19-04, 04:02 PM

Not to mention the fact that A10s are know for coming back to earth with their pilots in one piece.

even when the A-10 looks like swiss cheese :)

Now Mig 21's, they defo look like crap. crash like crap.

Wheel-Nut

02-19-04, 04:29 PM

In the picture of Dario, what is the word just below honda on the earl sled?

Sean O'Gorman

02-19-04, 04:47 PM

In the picture of Dario, what is the word just below honda on the earl sled?

Forsythe. I think someone from CW said that it was a crash recovery service or something along those lines.

rabbit

02-19-04, 05:18 PM

I think someone from CW said that it was a crash recovery service or something along those lines.Oh the irony.

oddlycalm

02-19-04, 06:16 PM

Not to get too far off on a tangent with A10's, but my wife and I sat by the car and watched a live gun shoot by a squadron of A10's at their high desert gunnery range just South of I-10 on the New Mexico/Arizona border. Seeing the fire rate and what it did to the several 2 1/2 ton junk trucks a couple miles across the valley that represented the target was something that we won't ever forget.

oc