ISC does Phoenix

[Brickman]

2005 prices are out.

Season tickets are an option, for those who want the NASCAR races only. Upper Allison (best seats in the house) can be purchased for $385 for both NASCAR weekends, April night race and November next to last race of the season. The "Super Season Package" for IndyCar, Grand American, Winter Heat (Southwest Tour) is an additional $110.

California Speedway was the first to ditch the season ticket format to just stick with what turns their turnstiles....

[Chief]

So I guess the IRL has to stand on it's own....no wonder they want to go street racing. The Naz closing is the precursor to the eventual end of the IRL.

[cart7]

So I guess the IRL has to stand on it's own....no wonder they want to go street racing. The Naz closing is the precursor to the eventual end of the IRL.
It's about time. Here's hoping Texas does the same if they haven't already.

[Madmaxfan2]

So CART the organization is dead, mission accomplished TG. OWRS won't be troubling to NASCAR. Therefore, ISC has no further need for event "welfare" that the IRL has enjoyed.Let's see here, Nazerath gone, Fontana and Phoenix no longer mandate IRL tickets for season ticket holders, MIS should be next, perhaps followed by Kansas City. TG, your days for the IRL are numbered.

[Brickman]

So CART the organization is dead, mission accomplished TG. OWRS won't be troubling to NASCAR. Therefore, ISC has no further need for event "welfare" that the IRL has enjoyed.Let's see here, Nazerath gone, Fontana and Phoenix no longer mandate IRL tickets for season ticket holders, MIS should be next, perhaps followed by Kansas City. TG, your days for the IRL are numbered.

Fontana only mandated CART tickets for season ticket holders not the IRL, but you are correct in your view that the welfare days are numbered, as is Chief that TG covets street circuits and road courses for a good reason.

[JLMannin]

Fontana only mandated CART tickets for season ticket holders not the IRL, but you are correct in your view that the welfare days are numbered, as is Chief that TG covets street circuits and road courses for a good reason.

Tony's stupid enough to think that road and street courses have place fans just like Indy.

Of course, we are finding out that there are not near as many place fans at Indy, judging from the vast numbers of race tickets still available, a mere 5 days before the race.

The Cleveland debacle would be a clear and unambigius signal to a good businessman that Champcar road and street courses are not attended by mostly party-goers or place fans. But, of course, TG is not a good businessman.

I'm happy for the NASCAR fans that they no longer have to pay "the IRL tax" surcharge to get their race tickets.

[Madmaxfan2]

So CART the organization is dead, mission accomplished TG. OWRS won't be troubling to NASCAR. Therefore, ISC has no further need for event "welfare" that the IRL has enjoyed.Let's see here, Nazerath gone, Fontana and Phoenix no longer mandate IRL tickets for season ticket holders, MIS should be next, perhaps followed by Kansas City. TG, your days for the IRL are numbered.

I need to define "event welfare". It is either bundling IRL tickets with NASCAR
tickets to make a season ticket package and/or holding an IRL event with a loss at the gate because of poor attendence. Chicago and Kansas City are the ISC tracks which have the season ticket provision, (Texas is an SMI track), while Nazareth, MIS, Phoenix, Homestead, Fontana have the latter situation. Chicago's "event welfare" is intact because Chicagoland is a joint venture between ISC and IMS, and Homestead is a loss for both the IRL and NASCAR. But Nazareth, MIS, Fontana, Phoenix , and Kansas CIty are being cut off the welfare for the IRL and must be stand alone business cases from now on.