Semi-Interesting Letter From Fred Nation

[JoeBob]

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[mapguy]

I don't think he has changed his tune at all.

hahahahahaha!

Fred Nation. What a lying sack of spit.

[Don Quixote]

I guess if they keep saying it over and over again, it will become true.

[Hink]

Where are the short trackers Fred?

Where - oh where - could they be?

[DaveL]

It's funny how 9 (count 'em 9) years after Idiotgrandson announced the formation of the Earl, Fred Nation still has to invent reasons as to why it was necessary. You'd have thought they were past justifying their existance anymore, but I guess not.

I love how the "opportunity" exists for Merican short trackers, an opportunity that didn't exist when CART was at Indy. This is particularly laughable when you consider that no such driver will be competing as a rookie this year, nor was there one last year, and if So Sorry Sarah can't find a sponsor only Billy Boat will represent that group of drivers if all reports are true of him joining with Hemelgarn-a loyal IRL team that was there through thick and thin and has no money to run this season while the very companies that were considered EVIL (T&H) are paying their furrin road racin' drivers more money in salary alone that what big Ron can dream of getting in sponsorship.

I can't wait for Freddie to explain why it was all they could do get 33 drivers in cars for Indy and how what likely to be one of the smallest entry lists every was all part of the plan to save Indy.

[ChrisB]

What Tony HAS always talked about was that the IRL is about offering opportunity for drivers who have grown up competitively driving on American short tracks

It's amusing the dancing around terms like "American short track open-wheel oval racing" without mentioning S-P-R-I-N-T C-A-R-S! I mean, who do they think is doing all this "American open-wheel oval racing"? I don't recall seeing any substantial short track oval racing being done with formula cars.

The IRL can talk about "cost controls" and "ovals only" until the cows come home, but a "cost controlled" RE aero formula car running on "ovals only" is still ...a RE aero formula car! And we've well-discussed how formula cars are used the world over primarily for road-racing and the experience disadvantage sprint drivers have trying to convince a formula car owner to give them the job.

Meanwhile, CART has pretty much jettisoned its ovals and trying to strengthen it's ties to the SCCA. The vertical integration of CART with the rest of American formula road-racing is obvious.

So likewise, where is the IRL going to get it's drivers from? They're sitting right in the middle of sprint-car country and can't get any of them. A cheaper formula car on ovals is still a formula car. IPS? A sprint driver can spend a year or two in IPS to learn the setups, and he'll still likely be leapfrogged for a top Indycar ride by someone else who has been driving formula cars on road-circuits for years. No wonder sprint drivers are beckoned to BGN which is better suited to the tubeframe/mechanical-grip skills they already have.

Does the IRL want to be vertically integrated with sprint racing (AKA American OW oval racing)... or does it want to continue be an offshoot of formula road-racing? Short of "modern roadsters", the IRL would probably be better off as the re-incarnation of the USAC stock car series with fuel-injected OHC motors.

[pchall]

It's nice how 'F'dNation makes it so easy to see through these guys.
Just reading a piece like that reinforces all the disdain and contempt.

[sundaydriver]

Originally posted by JoeBob
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What's even funnier is that the lugnut at AE believes it! :laugh:

[Ziggy]

Hey, they have Rick Mears teaching them new hotshots how to drive! Them USAC guys will be a cinch to make the big casino once the "Ovalmeister" get done learn'en 'em the fast line around.....

I just hope Mr. Mears speaks fluent Spanish..... 'cause when he leans down into the car to give a little "lesson" He aint gonna be talking to somebody from Brazil Indiana, but Brazil, Brazil.

Hey WhoreHey, your line looks a little suspect down there in two.

See, Senior Mears

Ziggy

[SteveH]

That would be Portuguese, Zig.

[Ziggy]

That would be Portuguese

If I new how to spell that, I would have used it

[Hurling Frootmig]

Isn't it sad that Fred Nation feels the need to reply (long winded) to autoextremist.com?

[patm]

If I new how to spell that, I would have used it

oh you do that too. I figured I couldn't be the only one that changed words based on spelling insecurities. :D

patm

[pchall]

Originally posted by patm
oh you do that too. I figured I couldn't be the only one that changed words based on spelling insecurities. :D

patm

Chill about the spelling, folks. It not like adding an S here and there will get you a long lecture on this forum.

;)

[RaceGrrl]

Originally posted by pchall
Chill about the spelling, folks. It not like adding an S here and there will get you a long lecture on this forum.

;)

An 's' won't get you a lecture then, but a 'z' will?