Yet More Old Stuff

[pchall]

It's a bird! It's a plane! It's roadster with primitive aero devices!!!

http://www.ifrance.com/trombinoscar/performance/ma670101.jpg

http://www.ifrance.com/trombinoscar/performance/ma670103.jpg

With a ducktail like that it can only be the 1967 Mallard.


This week's theme is odd and inventive stuff that ran at Indy when Indy was Indy. Go out on the internet and have fun!

ps: 'bird, that's my small ante, are you in? ;)

[SteveH]

To me the most unique car ever to race at Indy. Was at qualifications to see it and the place was packed. Same the following year with the Lotus wedge version.

http://www.redcelery.com/www_redcelery/Reds_Quotes_wo/IMAG023.JPG

[pchall]

Another imposing 4WD Indy effort:

http://www.vhrr.com/photos/Phillip%20Island%202004/special_interest/images/Miller%204WD.jpg

Harry Miller talked the owner of the Four Wheel Drive Company (truck builders) into sponsoring a 4WD Indycar for the 1934 race. Underfunded and underdevleloped, it failed at Indy. Somewhere I read that a subsequent owner of one of the two cars built got a class win at Pike's Peak in the early 50s. In this shot you can see the classic Miller deDion style frontwheel drive suspension -- the deDion tube connecting the hubs out in front of the front final drive and articulated joints at each end of the drive shafts.

[Railbird]

I'm working today Peter, I'll try to find some stuff tonight.

God knows Indy used to attract the wild, weird, wonderful and desperate.

[pchall]

I'm working today Peter, I'll try to find some stuff tonight.

God knows Indy used to attract the wild, weird, wonderful and desperate.


Good deal. I'm looking forward to your contributions. :)

[theunions]

How many responses before Ken Hamilton's Crop Duster shows up? ;)

And Smokey's Hurst sidecar?

[Ankf00]

with a backend like that, that mallard had some massive drag

[pchall]

How many responses before Ken Hamilton's Crop Duster shows up? ;)

And Smokey's Hurst sidecar?


Hey, it's your job to find any links to that stuff! Join the fun!

[theunions]

Hey, it's your job to find any links to that stuff! Join the fun!

Crop Duster and Yunick sidecar photos in this thread (http://forums.atlasf1.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66613) (I can't seem to link the photos directly)

Me finding the links is not a challenge. I wanted to see how much of a challenge it would be for others... ;)

[SteveH]

Found in the above link a car design that must have been the genisis for many of Franklin Ratliff's ideas....... :laugh:


http://members.atlasf1.com/wolf/alm.jpg

[Railbird]

Mickey Thompson was more of a self promoting hack than a racer imo.

Here's his Indy lineup:

http://www.thompson-motorsports.com/indy/indy6204.jpg

'62, by far his best effort penned by an ex-Lotus man who's name escapes me. With Gurney up it started 8th and hung around the top ten until either the motor grenaded or the gearbox filled itself with neutrals depending on who you believe.

http://www.thompson-motorsports.com/indy/indy6302.jpg

The wack "roller skate" with Graham Hill onboard wondering why he had bothered. 12" wheels and tires contarcted from Sears didn't prove to be a winning combination. Duane Carter soldiered on and was lucky to escape without a purple heart.

http://www.thompson-motorsports.com/indy/indy6401.jpg

For '64 USAC banned the wanky 12" wheel deal and pissed Mickey off so he decided to kill someone. This so called streamliner was the '63 chassis with big wheels and bad aerodynamics. Some how he convinced Ford to come up off of a new DOHC and one of their most promising young drivers. RIP Dave McDonald.

The he fell back for a couple years and really cranked on the weirdness knob.

http://www.thompson-motorsports.com/indy/indy6707.jpg

Front engine, front wheel drive with all-wheel steering seemed to be the perfect chassis to plug a 24 valve V8 into to Mickey. Only an unfortunate miscalculation of the methanol/nitro mix stood between Bob Mathouser and a starting spot. Lucky for him would be my guess.

[EDwardo]

http://www.supercars.net/servlets/PW/garagePics/PeP/49car1.jpg

Porsche Does Indy

[pchall]

http://www.ktsmotorsportsgarage.com/amelia98/images/fullsize/sumar55spcl.s1.jpg

Indy with fenders v. 0.9beta ;)

[Railbird]

The sidecar

http://hotrod.com/thehistoryof/p179337_image_large.jpg

[Railbird]

http://www.edgartownmainstreet.com/assets/images/photoPg5.jpg

Novi mule from pre WWII

[Rob]

It completely shocked me the first time I saw a photo of the sidecar. I've seen a photo of the left side of the car as well, and from what I recall the driver's left arm was protected by nothing other than the tire sidewalls and a thin piece of sheetmetal (?) that didn't even come close to shoulder-height. One spin and the driver would be screwed.

[pchall]

The sidecar deal really looks scary, but note the front suspension. A lower A-arm and a single top link. And this was radical new suspension design when it appeared in F1 in the late 90s.

[racer2c]

http://www.speedtv.com/_assets/library/img/large/50078_mvc849f.jpg