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Jag_Warrior
12-17-04, 10:13 PM
Ford and Jackie Stewart (http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns14013.html) :(

racer2c
12-17-04, 10:25 PM
Jackie was one of the first of my racing hero's if not the first and not so much for his racing! When I was probably six or seven in the early 70's, my dad gave me a book on international racing that came with a record, you know the flexible kind you tore out of the back and had to put a penny on to give it weight so that the record players arm wouldn't dig in and keep it from spinning. The record was all about the sounds of race cars of all types from around the world. Sir Jackie narrated the record and he became the epitome of what a racer should look and sound like to me. I still have that book by the way.

JohnHKart
12-18-04, 09:36 AM
Oh god this is awful!!! Shame on Ford. I think I'll go kick my Mexican Escort when I get up in the morning. (Not being sarcastic,,,this truly sucks!) :( :thumdown:

John

Ziggy
12-18-04, 11:45 AM
Fits into the all good things must end catagory. JYS did convince Ford to buy his F1 team. Im sure that experience strained his relationship even though he had nothing to do with the dismall results... Wonder what would have happened if Jackie could have just picked up the Ford backing and continued to run the team himself. I realize he had some family issues, so this is just a hypothetical situation...

When I see Jackie, I think Ford Motor Company.

One of the All Time Greats. He still keeps a very busy schedule. I doubt he goes to far from the lights

Forza Lancia
12-18-04, 12:15 PM
Jackie was my first racing hero, too. (I just realized that it sounds as though we're eulogizing him -- I'm glad it's just the end of a commercial partnership we're mourning...). I even had one of those "Jackie Stewart caps." But what strikes me is how Ford really did make use of what they had with Jackie, at least in the early days. Remember those television ad's from the 1980's, I believe, when their slogan was "Have you driven a Ford lately?" There was one which started with Jackie gazing wistfully at his Tyrrell-Ford in a museum, which then cut to old racing footage of Jackie flinging the car through the streets of Monanco. Great stuff.

RichK
12-21-04, 05:38 PM
From the article:
"The relationship became somewhat strained in the middle of the season when it became clear that Stewart was planning to work with the Royal Bank of Scotland in 2005."

What's the story with this?

Turn7
12-21-04, 05:50 PM
From the article:

What's the story with this?

HSBC probably wasn't happy that the "ambassador" for the team they were sponsoring was planning to support/advertise for a competitor of theirs. Just guessing though.

TorontoWorker
12-21-04, 10:55 PM
HSBC probably wasn't happy that the "ambassador" for the team they were sponsoring was planning to support/advertise for a competitor of theirs. Just guessing though.

Yes but why would they care now that the team has been sold to Red Bull?

Sounds like someone at FORD is burning down all the bridges to the past. No wonder North Americans are also showing the same type of regard for the so called big three by buying imports...

Turn7
12-21-04, 11:02 PM
It said that was the beginning of the strain. Not the end all. "At midseason" is in reference to last year when Ford was still owning the F1 operation not the present.

formulaben
12-26-04, 01:30 AM
I guess it's simple: it's slash & burn time at Ford.

Cosworth
Jaguar F1
Pi Electronics

Railbird
12-26-04, 08:20 AM
I had a few words with Sir Jackie at the USGP last year.

He's short

pchall
12-26-04, 11:07 AM
As a kid I was not a fan of the wee whinning Scot as a racer. I always rooted against him, especially at the Can Am races where he did that arrive and drive deal in that Haas Lola and still got blown away by the McLarens at the end of the season despite all the big talk at the beginning. When he started turning up on TV, I always thought he was annoying.

stroker
12-26-04, 12:11 PM
As a kid I was not a fan of the wee whinning Scot as a racer. I always rooted against him, especially at the Can Am races where he did that arrive and drive deal in that Haas Lola and still got blown away by the McLarens at the end of the season despite all the big talk at the beginning. When he started turning up on TV, I always thought he was annoying.

y'know, you have to credit Jackie... I believe he was a world champion skeet/trap shooter, and if I'm not mistaken, I think he's dyslexic, too (which couldn't have helped him much).

I wouldn't have minded him so much as a talking head if he could only have refrained from mentioning his EFFING 27 GP RACE WIN RECORD every time he opened his mouth... I wouldn't mind him involved in OWRS in some capacity... Maybe a Scot team?