Yoter getting sticker shock

[pinniped]

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=31835

Who didn't see this coming? If no yota, then what? 16 cars? Maybe at this rate, in a few years, the only manufacturers left in racing will be Japanese and Korean car companies that license to NASCAR the right to make headlight sticker caricatures...

[Methanolandbrats]

Yoda wants results in couple years or they're gonna cry and run away? WHHAAAAAA :cry: That attitude is exactly why I always have and always will root for Ferrari. Whether or not they are winning they go to the grid and have been doing so for almost a century. Sure Ferrari is on top now, but for long periods of time they sucked.

[Steve99]

It must be the driver's fault.

[Anteater]

I'm sure that Schumacher and Trulli will save the day for them. :rolleyes:

[racer2c]

It must be the driver's fault.

Yeah, I thought it was all DaMatta's fault. :shakehead :rolleyes:

[pinniped]

It does seem that toyota and previously jaguar were in a competition of sorts to see what they could do to fail regardless of finances and talent. I think toyota nailed this one though...set up a japanese formula one team, start from scratch, put it in the middle of france where you have union problems and socialist workers, and then have another base in england to complicate things. Then fire all your staff when they aren't immediately successful. Jaguar had that down too...

Pretty soon there will be no one else to blame, and the execs will axe it so they can say they are thinking of the bottom line.

wankers

[racer2c]

It does seem that toyota and previously jaguar were in a competition of sorts to see what they could do to fail regardless of finances and talent. I think toyota nailed this one though...set up a japanese formula one team, start from scratch, put it in the middle of france where you have union problems and socialist workers, and then have another base in england to complicate things. Then fire all your staff when they aren't immediately successful. Jaguar had that down too...

Pretty soon there will be no one else to blame, and the execs will axe it so they can say they are thinking of the bottom line.

wankers
:thumbup:

[TorontoWorker]

He told the Japanese media: “F1 has been harder than we expected.

I guess they expected that their cheating should have paid off in a much more successful way then their earlier attempts in WRC? Looks good on them. I hope they blow a trillion yen while watching from the back of the grid for many more years to come. This should help the balance of trade! Now if we could just find a team from China wanting into F1 we might be able to stop that sucking sound from that Walmart black hole...

Opps, sorry, did I tell you I like a good train wreak? :gomer:

[Dr. Corkski]

He told the Japanese media: “F1 has been harder than we expected.

I guess they expected that their cheating should have paid off in a much more successful way then their earlier attempts in WRC? Looks good on them. I hope they blow a trillion yen while watching from the back of the grid for many more years to come. This should help the balance of trade! Now if we could just find a team from China wanting into F1 we might be able to stop that sucking sound from that Walmart black hole...

Opps, sorry, did I tell you I like a good train wreak? :gomer:They actually did try to cheat. Supposedly they found stolen Ferrari data at the ToyotaF1 HQ in Germany. But then with da Matta and Panis they probably weren't going to do much better even with a real Ferrari.

[racer2c]

They actually did try to cheat. Supposedly they found stolen Ferrari data at the ToyotaF1 HQ in Germany. But then with da Matta and Panis they probably weren't going to do much better even with a real Ferrari.
:shakehead

[pinniped]

They actually did try to cheat. Supposedly they found stolen Ferrari data at the ToyotaF1 HQ in Germany. But then with da Matta and Panis they probably weren't going to do much better even with a real Ferrari.

As if dildomacher and trulli have reversed their fortunes...

[Anteater]

It does seem that toyota and previously jaguar were in a competition of sorts to see what they could do to fail regardless of finances and talent. I think toyota nailed this one though...set up a japanese formula one team, start from scratch, put it in the middle of france where you have union problems and socialist workers, and then have another base in england to complicate things. Then fire all your staff when they aren't immediately successful. Jaguar had that down too...

Pretty soon there will be no one else to blame, and the execs will axe it so they can say they are thinking of the bottom line.

wankers

I agree with what you said; however, Cologne is actually in the middle of Germany. Same problems, though.

[pinniped]

never did well in geography...oops :gomer: perhaps i could run an f1 team...

[oddlycalm]

wankers Exactly. They made stupid decisions that ranged from senior team personnel to location right from the get go, and now they grouse about the expense. I guess I missed the part where someone put a gun to their head and ordered them to get do it assbackward.

Other aspects of their downfall seem to be cultural. Building a 1st rate engine and expecting it to push around a 3rd rate chassis has been a chronic downfall of Japanese grand prix teams going back to the early 1960's, and it extended to both two and four wheeled vehicles. They finally learned to make a passable chassis for their GP motorcycles after 30yrs of working at it, but GP chassis of the four wheeled persuasion still seems beyond their reach. Maybe if they actually listen to Gascoyne and hire some people to support his efforts...? Probably too late, as I suspect we are seeing them laying the groundwork for a withdrawl that has already been decided.

oc

[cart7]

:cry: Poor, poor yoda. :cry:

Those shleps tried the cheap road when they entered Cart. No surprise here.

BTW, didn't they get Dan Davis to loan them a Dodge engine which got him in so much trouble with Dodge? Rather than build an engine from scratch they'd just as soon try and copy a competitors. :rolleyes: right, I'm all shook up for these poor guys. Success in racing = Speed + consistancy x $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

[Winston Wolfe]

good for Yoda !
Reap what you sow, baby...
Remember what they did in IMSA ?
Remember when they cried in CART, when they couldnt get a win, and then when they finally got the engine thing figgered out, they cast off the teams that got them there, and bought their way into the already successful teams.
Their F1 effort has been pretty much a colossal flop on a World stage, which has to embarrass the #4 Automaker in the world, as they move into the #3 position some time after 2005....
it'd be classic if they had to pull out after all that Yen, and never even getting a podium out of it.... Dildo-macher & trulli had better fix that nightmare for the Japanese execs, or their could be some guys at the world HQ in Japan sharpening up some of those long, pointy swords.... :eek:

[FTG]

Ford can't afford F1. If Toyota can't afford it, F1 is going to have a very hard time fillling the field.

Of course, people already seem to enjoy Schumie driving around without any competition, so maybe the field isn't necessary.

[oddlycalm]

Ford can't afford F1. Ford may soon find that they can ill afford not to be in F1. They may be able to sell some trucks, SUV's and even a few cars in the US to the NASCAR fans, but in the rest of the world their NASCAR exploits don't mean squat. Chronic lack of testicular fortitude in the executive offices at Ford, and they've just about milked their Le Mans exploits of nearly 40yrs dry. Can anyone really see the Ford Motor Company of 2005 winning a major world racing event?

oc