Wot's up?

[Kiwifan]

Wot's up with the padlocks on the NYR threads Boss? It's all seemed pretty civil stuff so far. :confused:

I do appreciate it is your site to moderate as you see fit but...........

Just a friendly enquiry from Downunder. :) :)

Rusty.

[Michaelhatesfans]

Yeah, I thought that was a bit premature, as well. I know there are lines you don't want to cross, but it seemed like we were a ways off on that? It's your call, but I thought everyone was behaving themselves on that one.

[Off Camber]

Originally we closed the thread because we weren't sure if it was just a rumor or a fact that NYR was arrested for child porn. Since then a trusted source has confirmed that he was.

However, it seems to us that discussion of NYR, and the snickering that inevitably follows, are borderline in a couple of ways. This isn't a place for discussion of individuals who aren't public figures or involved in racing. This isn't a place for obscene or vulgar humor. Threads that drift into NYR discussion are immediately pushing those restrictions.

The time has come to close that topic once and for all. If anyone has factual information to share about NYR do it here and now, because this is the very last time the topic is open for discussion.

Along those same lines, we're getting tired of having to mull over whether this or that sexually oriented comment is over the line of vulgarity or obscenity. Some of you are causing us to spend entirely too much time on that. If we see that you are making a habit of it we aren't going waste any more time considering the appropriateness of your latest bit of bathroom humor. We will simply hit delete.

nrc & RaceGrrl

[pinniped]

:rolleyes:

I have no problem with locking the NYR thread because of the possible direction it would head, and really was just being nosy...now I know the reason so that is cool.


However, a lot of innocuous threads have been locked and posts deleted very recently, which doesn't sit well and kind of reminds one of a certain forum and its occasional meltdown modes in its last days...

I can't speak for anyone else, but this is one forum I feel pretty comfortable opening up and it wouldn't have occurred to me that it needed more aggressive monitoring...if you monitor too much, people will inevitably become frustrated...anyway, there is a suggestion in there somewhere. Also, I do notice that certain threads that are locked contain rather vigorous debate by a certain "moderator" which starts making the thread closures seem more a matter of a prescribed point of view than anything else...

[Kiwifan]

Thanks guys, I never knew that about the bloke. Wasn't trying to stir the pot but it just seemed weird that every NYR thread got locked. Now I know.

If true, I do not condone his behavior at all, in fact it disgusts me. Like most of the guys here it's all "fun and games" BUT there is a line that should not be crossed. Involving children in adult themes is one of them IMHO.

Once again, thanks for the update. Topic closed for me.

Russell.

[Warlock!]

The line between "kiddie porn" and "hot college chicks" can sometimes be very blurry. That's why I only save the porn to my hard drive where something on the woman is sagging. ;)

Warlock!

[Turn7]

My thoughts if you don't like something being locked down.

http://www.phpbb.com/
http://www.register.com/

Have at it. :gomer:

[pinniped]

My thoughts if you don't like something being locked down.

http://www.phpbb.com/
http://www.register.com/

Have at it. :gomer:


That isn't such a bad idea. :laugh:

[Ziggy]

Most of the guys asking or bringing up the NYR topic know what the score is.

Why do they keep doing it? Their dicks

Make your job easier, ban them

nrc and missy do a fine job moderating this board. If you cant come up with anything to say, just say (or post) nothing. Going a couple of days without a post will not kill you. The Internet is a very large place, lots to read and participate in other than make reference to a guy whom many long time posters know the score. If you had not noticed the nyr threads being locked down, maybe you have a comprehension problem, and need to wise up a notch. This message board features a personal message function, if you are having trouble keeping up, ask someone.

If it were my board, and someone compared it to TurdForum, I would ban them in a New York minute

Now, can we get back to the weighty subjects of how AutoCross equates into real racing, high finance and big time sports car racing?
:gomer:

Ziggy

[JoeBob]

Zig,

You're my new HIro.

[pinniped]

The comparison was to 7th gear. But it might apply to both. As indicated above, I have no problem with the NYR thread being locked. Perhaps there is a need for a more mature forum.

[JoeBob]

Perhaps there is a need for a more mature forum.

Or maybe just more mature posters.

[pinniped]

Or maybe just more mature posters.

Hey, it's a free country. If you don't like my posts, don't read them. :rolleyes:

[Ankf00]

The line between "kiddie porn" and "hot college chicks" can sometimes be very blurry. That's why I only save the porn to my hard drive where something on the woman is sagging. ;)

Warlock!
I'm currently just blocks from Texas Christian ;) Tonight it's time to hit "The Library" and observe the finest TCU trim ;)

[Turn7]

Most of the guys asking or bringing up the NYR topic know what the score is.

Why do they keep doing it? Their dicks

Make your job easier, ban them

nrc and missy do a fine job moderating this board. If you cant come up with anything to say, just say (or post) nothing. Going a couple of days without a post will not kill you. The Internet is a very large place, lots to read and participate in other than make reference to a guy whom many long time posters know the score. If you had not noticed the nyr threads being locked down, maybe you have a comprehension problem, and need to wise up a notch. This message board features a personal message function, if you are having trouble keeping up, ask someone.

If it were my board, and someone compared it to TurdForum, I would ban them in a New York minute

Now, can we get back to the weighty subjects of how AutoCross equates into real racing, high finance and big time sports car racing?
:gomer:

Ziggy


This place has been about quality not quantity since inception. You nailed to the wall for all to see right there Ziggy.

Good post. :thumbup:

[racer2c]

Most of the guys asking or bringing up the NYR topic know what the score is.

Why do they keep doing it? Their dicks

Make your job easier, ban them

nrc and missy do a fine job moderating this board. If you cant come up with anything to say, just say (or post) nothing. Going a couple of days without a post will not kill you. The Internet is a very large place, lots to read and participate in other than make reference to a guy whom many long time posters know the score. If you had not noticed the nyr threads being locked down, maybe you have a comprehension problem, and need to wise up a notch. This message board features a personal message function, if you are having trouble keeping up, ask someone.

If it were my board, and someone compared it to TurdForum, I would ban them in a New York minute

Now, can we get back to the weighty subjects of how AutoCross equates into real racing, high finance and big time sports car racing?
:gomer:

Ziggy

Great post zig.

I honestly hadn't a clue about NYR's 'issue'. It was after my stay at 7G. But I do NOT have a comprehension proble, what was I sayin'? Oh, yeah, the um, I keep PM'ing the lone groover to ask him what his posts mean but his PM is turned off. How do I turn that on? Thanks in advance! :)

[pinniped]

Well, in the past couple of days I have seen a post deleted because it offered condolences to Ank for his friend. That and a thread locked because it actually involved a debate about racing. That is worth complaining about, IMO.

Tell you what, why don't you just post a list of the opinions that aren't allowed here. That way we errant thinkers can review it and decide if we are going to in any way offend someone.

[Kiwifan]

Originally posted by me, "Topic closed for me." Bugger, just broke my own point. :o


Lets move on eh?

Rusty.

[JoeBob]

Tell you what, why don't you just post a list of the opinions that aren't allowed here. That way we errant thinkers can review it and decide if we are going to in any way offend someone.

http://www.offcamber.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1863

[pinniped]

http://www.offcamber.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1863

I missed the part about offering condolences to someone who posts that a friend died in the off-forum being somehow prohibited or offensive. Can you direct me to that?

And the part where we must not appreciate any road racing series that isn't approved of by a majority of the members. Where is that part?

It seems a rather closed-minded group is intent on shouting anyone down here who doesn't agree with them.

BTW, your posts arguable violate the user agreement.

[RaceGrrl]

This is the last post we will make on this topic. If you do not like how this forum is run, then you are invited to leave. You do not have to be here.


Complaints about OffCamber turning into 7G are laughable. Part of the decline of 7G was due to the rampant political arguments. Hence the no politics rule. Politics are not allowed in this forum, whether it's contained in an expression of sympathy or not. Your condolences were expressed with added political commentary. The post was removed, as was the following post which also contained political commentary. This has ALWAYS been the rule here and until recently it has been adhered to. Observe the no politics rule and your posts won't be deleted.


In regards to the other thread being closed: It was closed simply because it got nasty. The closure had nothing to do with your disagreement with nrc. There were several other posters in that thread participating in the tone that it took, and I decided it was best to close it.

[racer2c]

I missed the part about offering condolences to someone who posts that a friend died in the off-forum being somehow prohibited or offensive. Can you direct me to that?

And the part where we must not appreciate any road racing series that isn't approved of by a majority of the members. Where is that part?

It seems a rather closed-minded group is intent on shouting anyone down here who doesn't agree with them.

BTW, your posts arguable violate the user agreement.

As someone much wiser than myself pointed out to me recently and it really hit home..."Your being very Un-Dude".

Deep breath man. Chill. I thought you Californians were laid back.
And the sport car thing is spent. Even O'G has moved on.

[rabbit]

Sorry I brought up the whole subject. I honestly had no idea about his troubles. When I found out Cassio Cortes was a college student in NYC, well, I thought maybe there was a connection.

[racer2c]

Sorry I brought up the whole subject. I honestly had no idea about his troubles. When I found out Cassio Cortes was a college student in NYC, well, I thought maybe there was a connection.

It's all your fault! Shame! Shame! ;)

Well, kickers, stompers and otherwise disgruntled OC members, chin up because racer2c is here to brighten your day. Just to show you how easy it truly is, I whipped up my own damn forum (in less than an hour) and you are welcome to argue Grand Am superiority, politics and any other subject you want (except kiddie pr0n). But like Ziggy said, I'll delete you in a heartbeat if I feel like it.

Link to Racer2c's Dumbass Race Forum (http://www.interbrella.com/phpBB2/)

[Ziggy]

:rofl:

[rabbit]

Well, kickers, stompers and otherwise disgruntled OC members, chin up because racer2c is here to brighten your day. Just to show you how easy it truly is, I whipped up my own damn forum (in less than an hour) and you are welcome to argue Grand Am superiority, politics and any other subject you want (except kiddie pr0n). But like Ziggy said, I'll delete you in a heartbeat if I feel like it.

Link to Racer2c's Dumbass Race Forum (http://www.interbrella.com/phpBB2/)
:rofl:

[pinniped]

Hey, that's really neat. Maybe if I started a forum called "closed minded dork living in the past with too much time on my hands forum" and I invited you that would make me clever! Not.

You know, if that post "RaceGrrl" was so offensive, then you're out to lunch. If you really thought it was primarily political, then you have a comprehension problem, not me. And I don't really give a crap whether it was "you" or "nrc" who deleted it or any other thread. Why should I?

Anyway, they are valid criticisms, people have left forums for less. Your response is so unprofessional that I can't imagine I would continue to post here. My criticism wasn't personal before, but that is out of line.

I find it interesting that you claim that the thread is closed, that you are here to stick close to the rules (which include not discussing and criticizing forum members) yet you don't delete any number of childish posts containg silly name calling. Why? Because you really just want to have a stupid little closed minded club for your circle of mental deficients. And if your skin is that thin you should not be moderating an internet forum. Again, I raised valid criticism.

There are some very good people here. However, a very few posters here have a cliquish high school mentality which they mistake for being cool. You know what guys, I never liked guys like you anyway. I don't have to agree with you on politics, on peripheral subjects like sports cars, or anything else. I don't even want to. You're no better than the angry Wilkies at TrackForum who dogpile on anyone who doesn'[t buy into their IRL dream.

Go ahead, ban me. Please! I don't care. I suspect I won't be the last. :thumbup:

[racer2c]

"closed minded dork living in the past with too much time on my hands forum"




:( I thought we were buds. :cry:

[Ziggy]

Your more fun than an all night dentist :rofl:

[Methanolandbrats]

http://smilies.jeeptalk.org/otn/love/smlove2.gif

[fourrunner]

On a more Upbeat note ...

"Life Sucks .... Then you Die!!!"

[The Doctor]

Survey says: It's the internet. In the end it doesn't really matter.

:cry: :cry:

[FCYTravis]

:eek:

I haven't seen a meltdown like that in a loooooooooooooooooooooong time.

[mexican]

true, true

I even took a peek at TF (oy! :gomer: ) to see if moist undergarments were in abundance, not yet... maybe mañana

[Jag_Warrior]

I posted a thread about NYR recently and have asked about him a couple of times. I thought he was just a funny kid, going through life at 100 mph... without a helmet.

So to me, that's surprising and sad news. I didn't know why the subject was taboo - now I do. Oh well... :shakehead

[Turn7]

Your response is so unprofessional that I can't imagine I would continue to post here.


Professional/unprofessional? Who's getting paid?

Anybody remeber how to change diapers? I think somebody teetee in their undies and are getting rashed up and cranky. :cry: :cry:

[Warlock!]

I'm not happy 'cause you don't moderate this forum like I would.
That's happened to me on a few forums as well. I just snuck out the back door and no one noticed. You have an opportunity to do the same.

I'm not saying you should, but you could...


;)

Warlock!

[devilmaster]

Link to Racer2c's Dumbass Race Forum (http://www.interbrella.com/phpBB2/)

What a crappy board. Its already down. ;) :D

Steve

[racer2c]

What a crappy board. Its already down. ;) :D

Steve

The lone_grover called me a name and hurt my feelings. :(

Props to RaceGrrl and nrc. Running a forum is TOUGH! :thumbup:

[lone_groover]

Just a playful joke. Grow some hide, Nancy!

:)

[racer2c]

Just a playful joke. Grow some hide, Nancy!

:)

Whew! You had me worried. :) ;)

[Wheel-Nut]

Professional/unprofessional? Who's getting paid?

Anybody remeber how to change diapers? :cry: :cry:

I still remember. . . even at 3 a.m.

[pinniped]

Ahem. No one is going to track forum or watching the IRL. I simply am not going to post here. Good day, the sandbox is yours...

[lone_groover]

Pin, you ain't a bad guy. It's not too late to edit your post and think about it.....

:(

[pinniped]

Pin, you ain't a bad guy. It's not too late to edit your post and think about it.....

:(

I appreciate that l_g, I really do. But there have been far too many annoyances here for me lately. If it isn't enjoyable, why do it? There are other forums. As pointed out by the moderator, "I am not required to be here"...

[Michaelhatesfans]

Why do they keep doing it? Their dicks
:rofl:
They do it because of their dicks? Oh, you meant they're dicks... didn't you? :laugh:

[Michaelhatesfans]

I posted a thread about NYR recently and have asked about him a couple of times. I thought he was just a funny kid, going through life at 100 mph... without a helmet.

So to me, that's surprising and sad news. I didn't know why the subject was taboo - now I do. Oh well... :shakehead
I thought the same about him - I sometimes heard that there was more to the story, but no specifics. I wrote the little bit that I did hear off to rumor. Every time the subject came up, it disappeared before I could find out why.

One thing to consider, mods - don't always assume that everyone already knows why you don't want the threads to exist. :cool:

[Jag_Warrior]

One thing to consider, mods - don't always assume that everyone already knows why you don't want the threads to exist. :cool:

Good point. A friend of mine told me something about Belinda Endress a few years ago. Well, I'd seen her around different tracks and thought she was a nice, God fearin', religious kinda race car girl. I couldn't believe that she had an alter ego that made... uh... videos. ;)

So I popped on 7G and asked if anybody knew anything. Turned out Belinda and Belle were the same person. Well, shut my mouth and kick the dog! :eek:

I'm not criticizing the moderation here. I think they do fine and just want to keep a family element to the forum. But Wickerbill let me draw that thread out til I had a definitive answer - even though the subject was sorta borderline. Some people here all but write in code some of the time. That's fine, but it does suggest a sort of clubiness that ain't all that kewl with some others. Not a criticism... just an observation.

[mapguy]

You go, grrl! :thumbup:


One thing to consider, mods - don't always assume that everyone already knows why you don't want the threads to exist. :cool:

That's what pm's are for.

[Michaelhatesfans]

That's what pm's are for.
Yeah, but I didn't get one!

[racer2c]

I appreciate that l_g, I really do. But there have been far too many annoyances here for me lately. If it isn't enjoyable, why do it? There are other forums. As pointed out by the moderator, "I am not required to be here"...

I hate it when things like this escalate to the point where people feel the need to leave. I feel like I have contributed greatly in upsetting you and I apologize profusely. I always try to post with a sense of humor but I do sometimes forget how translations and intentions get misinterpreted just by the written word.
You've been around along time and I would hate to see you leave on my account. Again, I apologize for my actions; it wasn't with the intent to drive you away.
You're a Champ Car fan!

[Railbird]

OC is my favorite forum, quality over quantitiy.

two thoughts:

Get over yourself

Drop the flag

[pinniped]

OC is my favorite forum, quality over quantitiy.

two thoughts:

Get over yourself

Drop the flag

Wow! I haven't been banned yet?!!

Railbird, if you are your idea of "quality" then get over your own self. I have now left two forums with which you were associated. The other was TF.

[Railbird]

Wow! I haven't been banned yet?!!

Why bother?

it's more fun watching you implode.



I have now left two forums with which you were associated.

I should charge for my services

[cart7]

I guess you're the type that'll show up once a week and post something like...

Wow! I haven't been banned yet?!! That's OK, I'm still not going to post here cause you guys suck

That's OK too ;)









BTW, Grand-Am still sucks. :p