NASCAR Mexico

[Brickman]

http://www.nascar.com/races/bg/2005/3/data/entry_list.html

It looks like they kept Peraltada intact (oval turn), and used the longer chute where Champ Cars normaly turn left through Ese Del Lago. I also just can't tell if they added the chicane or if it's NASCAR's interpretation of the long straight.

http://i.cnn.net/nascar/races/tracks/ahr/images/img_map_ahr.gif

[Methanolandbrats]

TV viewing dilema...........NAFTA presents Cab Lite or FTG presents Crapwagons n' Walls.............. :confused:

[devilmaster]

Hmmm.... I thought that the peradalta (i can never remeber how that's spelt) was not fixed with the rest of the track when Forsythe gussied it up.

Nascar's busch page on the race says that CART pulled 400000 people in 2002, with 210000 on race day. The actual Hermanos website says 'more than 80,000' will witness the race....

I kinda thought the attendance would be better than that....

Steve

[RusH]

Looks like a slow track, now with slow cars.
I hear the transports are getting military escorts.

[devilmaster]

TV viewing dilema...........NAFTA presents Cab Lite or FTG presents Crapwagons n' Walls.............. :confused:

Stay up late Saturday night watching F1 Meth, then sleep the sunday races away.

Steve

[devilmaster]

Here's the entry list:


0 RAFAEL MARTINEZ 05 CHEVY
1 BORIS SAID 05 DODGE
2 CLINT BOWYER 05 CHEVY
4 RYAN HEMPHILL 05 DODGE
5 ADRIAN FERNANDEZ 05 CHEVY
6 PAUL WOLFE 05 DODGE
7 CHRIS COOK 05 CHEVY
8 MARTIN TRUEX, JR. 05 CHEVY
10 MICHEL JOURDAIN 05 FORD
11 PAUL MENARD 05 CHEVY
12 TIM FEDEWA 05 DODGE
14 DAVID STREMME 05 DODGE
16 MARK MONTGOMERY 05 CHEVY
18 J.J. YELEY 05 CHEVY
20 DENNY HAMLIN 05 CHEVY
21 KEVIN HARVICK 05 CHEVY
22 KENNY WALLACE 05 FORD
23 SHAWNA ROBINSON 04 CHEVY
24 KIM CROSBY 04 CHEVY
25 ASHTON LEWIS 05 FORD
26 MARK GREEN 04 CHEVY
27 DAVID GREEN 05 FORD
28 JOHNNY SAUTER 04 DODGE
32 SHANE HMIEL 05 CHEVY
33 RON HORNADAY JR 05 CHEVY
34 RANDY LAJOIE 05 CHEVY
35 JASON KELLER 05 FORD
36 STANTON BARRETT 04 CHEVY
38 TYLER WALKER 05 DODGE
40 CARLOS CONTRERAS 05 DODGE
41 REED SORENSON 05 DODGE
42 JAMIE MCMURRAY 05 DODGE
43 JOSE RAMIREZ MAGANA 05 DODGE
44 JUSTIN LABONTE 05 CHEVY
47 JON WOOD 04 FORD
49 MARA REYES 04 FORD
52 SCOTT GAYLORD 05 FORD
55 ROBBY GORDON 05 CHEVY
58 BRENT SHERMAN 05 DODGE
59 STACY COMPTON 04 FORD
60 CARL EDWARDS 05 FORD
64 RUSTY WALLACE 05 DODGE
65 STAN SILVA, JR. 04 CHEVY
66 JORGE GOETERS 05 FORD
67 JIMMY MORALES 04 DODGE
72 RUBEN GARCIA NOVOA 05 CHEVY
73 ERIC JONES 05 CHEVY
87 RON FELLOWS 05 CHEVY
90 ELLIOT SADLER 05 FORD
92 FREDDY TOME, JR. 04 FORD
97 TODD SOUZA 05 CHEVY

[Gnam]

I hear the transports are getting military escorts.
Doesn't Champ Car get the same treatment when they convoy down to Monterrey and Mexico City? I'm sure each fully loaded transporter is worth several million dollars. Beware of El Guapo.

http://www.chaos-faction.com/images/elguapo.jpg

[FRANKY]

Only four "Buschwhackers" compared with nine last week. I'll pick Harvick to win, but then again there is Boris. We should do a pick three.

[Methanolandbrats]

Stay up late Saturday night watching F1 Meth, then sleep the sunday races away.

Steve I've got the F1 part figured out........but I must witness Sunday's weirdness :saywhat:

[Gnam]

Wow. They really are worried about getting held up.

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=178315&FS=NASCAR-BUSCH

[racer2c]

"and the IRL had an incident with a dog and children on the race course in 1981 that had quite an unhappy ending for the canine. "

:saywhat:

[CART T. Katz]

"and the IRL had an incident with a dog and children on the race course in 1981 that had quite an unhappy ending for the canine. "

:saywhat:
would that classify as revisionist history or a sign of things to come?

[Brickman]

Robby Gordon ;)

[Steve99]

I also just can't tell if they added the chicane or if it's NASCAR's interpretation of the long straight.


I heard NASCAR was going to add a chicane to slow the cars down before turn 1. I was expecting more of an "inner loop" type of thing.

Edit: I just noticed that people in grandstand 9 are getting screwed (more than the rest).

[oddlycalm]

Wow. They really are worried about getting held up. Serious security is a necessity in some parts of the world and pofessionals just deal with it. Champ Car teams faced the same thing in Mexico and F1 faces it in several of it's races. Allow the hoopla surrounding this event simply illustrates how insulated the fatassed NASCAR entourage is.

oc

[TorontoWorker]

I got my money on Ron 1st, Boris 2nd Robby 3rd or maybe Edwards 3rd.

[Winston Wolfe]

Shawna Robinson has got to the be the first to DNF....

How do you say " Oh, the carnage" in Espanol ?

I am gonna watch this train wreck.....

Boris \ Robby \ Harvick.... that is, if old buddies like Harvick and Robby can survive each other during the early stages of the race.

It's go'nna be a real barn burner !!!!
That is fo' sho !

[Forza Lancia]

Why does NASCAR get to use the real Peraltada, while ChampCar has to use that emasculated through-the-baseball-park thing? I realize that NASCAR is slower, but ChampCars were designed to cope with high-speed ovals, after all.

[Accipiter]

The only bet I am making on this event is that half the field will straightline part or all of the esses at some point.

P.S. Kevin Harvik might not show due to sore ribs. Or, is Childress just protecting his investment in his last remaining a-hole driver by keeping him out of reach of los Desperados?

[Winston Wolfe]

Harvick has proven he can bang fenders with the best of 'em, including former teammate Robby G.... Boris Said is quite deynamic on the road courses and Robby G has proven he can use the chrome horn to get a "spin & win" a la Saint Dale...
I also agree that more than half the field will straight line the chicane, and I think it is going to be an EXTREMELY entertaining race.
I predict so many yellows, that the marshalls and corner workers may catch a repetitive motion injury and possibly have to file a workmen's comp claim !

[NismoZ]

Those of you who think cars may straightline the outer busstop chicane may be correct. I predict they ALL will...on lap one. (?) Makes sense from a "safety" standpoint, I think. Somebody does that at Portland, right?

[Brickman]

I'll go with Rusty, even though it's his underperforming Busch car, he has been under performing so maybe it's a match. I'll also pick Robby Gordon, since he has won both road courses last year and had a Busch win. Ron Fellows as my last pick. I'm guessing Harvick won't get there because of medical, and that Boris won't get it done again. Maybe I'll be good luck for him and he can prove me wrong.

[manic mechanic]

Fellows and Said duking it out...Jimmy Morales the best of the local drivers...Edwards points-racing...Rusty NOT points racing and ending up in a gravel trap...These boys 'aint Justin Wilson and these suckers 'aint ChampCars.

I'm picking Fellows over the field. ;)

manic

[pchall]

Hmmm.... I thought that the peradalta (i can never remeber how that's spelt) was not fixed with the rest of the track when Forsythe gussied it up.


Steve

I think you're right here (but not for the spelling -- I memember it as Peraltada). F1 had almost all of the banking taken out of the turn and then they lost the first half of the turn to the main grandstands of the stadium. It's odd that they get a chicane into the main straight but missed the right-left-right through the stadium.

[pchall]

"and the IRL had an incident with a dog and children on the race course in 1981 that had quite an unhappy ending for the canine. "

:saywhat:

Wasn't the dog and kids incident in 1971 when the first run of F1 races ended because of crowd control problems? I don't remember that being a CART incident in 1981.

[pchall]

http://i.a.cnn.net/nascar/2005/news/headlines/bg/03/04/mexico_practice1/practice2_cia.jpg

[pchall]

Hey, they actually did run around the entire Peraltada! But there is know way I'd want a top level formula car go around there with concrete walls both sides. It was scary enough still when the turn was flattend a lot for F1 with runoff on the outside, but now --- sheesh.

BTW, the race was a hoot, especially the last twenty laps or so. Fox did a good job covering the action on the back side. Much more fun the other two Sunday's I've ended up napping on the couch because of NASCAR oval racing: didn't doze a bit. I could take some more of this. Too bad Watkins Glen and Sears Point will probably never be refurbished to the standard set by Forsythe et. al. at Hermanos Rodriguez.

[Rogue Leader]

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