Well, this sucks...

[rabbit]

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/indycar/16181/

Speculation that Newman/Haas Racing would expand its Indianapolis 500 program to two cars this year was confirmed today, when Centrix Financial–associate sponsor of Newman/Haas' Champ Car program–announced that the company will sponsor two Newman/Haas entries for this year’s Memorial Day classic. Bruno Junqueira will make his fourth start in the event while Sebastien Bourdais, reigning champion of the Champ Car World Series and winner of this past weekend's season opener at Long Beach, will make his debut at the Brickyard in a second Newman/Haas entry. Both cars will be Honda-powered Panoz chassis. :flame: :thumdown:

[dando]

http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/indycar/16181/
:flame: :thumdown:
Yeah, just saw that, 2. Oh well. I just hope Blinky and Frogger make it out unscathed. I won't be watching. :mad:

-Kevin

[Wheel-Nut]

It's interesting they are using honda power after their past relationship with toyota. I wonder how much factory support honda will provide them?

[Opposite Lock]

Suckage indeed. Not surprised by Fat Carl, but a bit miffed by PLN's apparent complicity. So much for "kicking them where they deserve to be kicked".

Would be pretty funny, though, if they both pulled out about 2 days before the 497.5. But I doubt Centrix would risk its rep to do that.

:thumdown:

[Andrew Longman]

Interesting McDonalds and PacifiCare chose not to sponsor. That means something

At least I can hope SeeBass kicks butt.

[JoeBob]

They used the Panoz-Honda package last year too.

[Michaelhatesfans]

I'll be camping that weekend. I won't set the VCR.

[Wally]

:shakehead

[Spicoli]

Remember when Railbird said it would be just 1?


Johnny Scoop wins again. :gomer:

[Ziggy]

Will Champcar ever get a clue and schedule a race to make this impossible?

Seabass told me himself this weekend he did not enjoy running on Ovals

(as did Chris DaMatta)

[nrc]

Suckage indeed. Not surprised by Fat Carl, but a bit miffed by PLN's apparent complicity. So much for "kicking them where they deserve to be kicked".

Wasn't "Newman/Haas" the rumor last year and then it got clarified as only "Haas"?

[Racing Truth]

Wasn't "Newman/Haas" the rumor last year and then it got clarified as only "Haas"?

No, they actually ran under the N-H banner last year.

[Railbird]

Remember when Railbird said

I recall saying

"at this point in time"

How did the couch handle this weekend 'tater?

[Spicoli]

Remember when Railbird said

I recall saying

"at this point in time"

How did the couch handle this weekend 'tater?

Oh please. You smell like Depender.



Admit defeat you Scurvy Curr!

[Brickman]

You'd think they would have learned by now.

http://www.champcarworldseries.com/News/Article.asp?ID=8892

Maybe they will use Race Director too.

[Easy]

At least Champ Car doesn't go into spin overdrive like the irl and deny the existence of what is still the biggest open-wheel race in the Great Lakes region.

btw, Newman-Haas could make a bundle with this whole deal and I'd guess that is what it is mostly about. The Chassis' are already there (and at least one was free), Honda and all that entails, Centrix writes a nice check and then the prize money.

[Jervis Tetch 1]

Well if they have to race there, I'm pulling for both Sea Bass and Junky.

I hope they kick their effing asses.

[skaven]

I'll be rafting down the Yampa River and won't set the VCR this year. The last two years I went backpacking and didnt set the VCR.

"Getting back to nature" is much better for my blood pressure than listening to 500 miles of propaganda. :mad:

[fourrunner]

Probably this was Pauls concession to Carl, for staying in Champ Car !

There in it ... I Hope they Win it!

[Rob]

It would be freakin' hilarious if the two N-H cars caused the two Vision Racing cars to get bumped out of the 500 field.

[Racing Truth]

It would be freakin' hilarious if the two N-H cars caused the two Vision Racing cars to get bumped out of the 500 field.

Heh.

But, sadly, that distinction is left for "the man, the myth, the legend: Scott Mayer." :laugh: *

Then comes Roth, and only after that would Special Ed be in trouble.

*Provided 'ole Scotty can actually pass ROP this time. :gomer:

[rabbit]

It would be freakin' hilarious if the two N-H cars caused the two Vision Racing cars to get bumped out of the 500 field.
Assuming there are enough cars for bumping to take place...

[Ziggy]

Somebody send Sebastian an updated map of Crown Hill

Hard to defend a championship from there............

[DagoFast]

I hope fat Carl is the last of the CC owners affected with Findyitis. And he's not contiagous. There oughta be a CC race that weekend. Preferably a nice street race. In maybe Chicago.

[cameraman]

You'd think they would have learned by now.

http://www.champcarworldseries.com/News/Article.asp?ID=8892

Maybe they will use Race Director too.

Champ Car is taking the high road and they will be relentlessly classy about this whole thing. In public Champ Car, as an organization, is not going to slam the IRL. All while KK will be kicking some TG ass behind closed doors. They are going to be professional and not get in a public pissing match with the IRL.

[Railbird]

You smell like Depender.


Who around here is getting all jazzed up about a CCWS team filling the field at 16th&Georgetown 'tater?

Back on topic;


IMO fat Carl is greazing the slides to follow Honda where ever they head after they leave the IRL.

[Spicoli]

Who around here is getting all jazzed up about a CCWS team filling the field at 16th&Georgetown 'tater?

Back on topic;


IMO fat Carl is greazing the slides to follow Honda where ever they head after they leave the IRL.

Still can't admit you were worng, huh? :thumdown:

P.S. > Where you think they are going? I know.

[Ziggy]

Comparing 'bird to defender is about as low as it gets IMO

Were dying for the insider stuff there Stuart.

The trophy is on it's way :cry:

[Spicoli]

Comparing 'bird to defender is about as low as it gets IMO

Were dying for the insider stuff there Stuart.

The trophy is on it's way :cry:

[railbird mode]

aS i RECALL, I was simply saying he acted like Depender at that time ...

[/railbird mode]


:rofl:

could they be looking around? :saywhat:

[FCYTravis]

P.S. > Where you think they are going? I know.
I have a guess... two letter series, two letter car?

[Lizzerd]

It would be freakin' hilarious if the two N-H cars caused the two Vision Racing cars to get bumped out of the 500 field.

It would be freakin funny as hell, but I don't think The Idiot would ever let that happen. A last minute computer chip change, a tech inspection failure, whatever... It won't happen. More likely would be some pre pole day shenanagins to put his lumps safely in the field. I'm not saying he would do that, but... we'll see....

[JLMannin]

It would be freakin funny as hell, but I don't think The Idiot would ever let that happen. A last minute computer chip change, a tech inspection failure, whatever... It won't happen. More likely would be some pre pole day shenanagins to put his lumps safely in the field. I'm not saying he would do that, but... we'll see....

TG would not resort to such measures. After all, "33 is just a number". He would simply expand the starting field.

Regarding immunity to Indyitis, Haas, Forsythe, and Coyne are the only CC teams that were around in 1995. Forsythe and Coyne will never play in IRL land, I hope. All the rest of the CC teams are new since 1996, and selected Champcar to participate in.

[Spicoli]

I have a guess... two letter series, two letter car?

Wrong Horshack. They are already there. honda seems to like Streetcourses. Keep your eye on J-Lo.

[Easy]

Wrong Horshack. They are already there. honda seems to like Streetcourses. Keep your eye on J-Lo.

Honda will sign Boyband to a personal services contract then re-assign him to their new factory Drifting effort teamed with, Marc Anthony?

[Spicoli]

Honda will sign Boyband to a personal services contract then re-assign him to their new factory Drifting effort teamed with, Marc Anthony?

boyband only come to US in June to win Gran Pree. :D



reread.

[Racing Truth]

Well, I'm thoroughly confused by Spic's references here. :saywhat: :( Not his fault I'm out of touch. :(

Everything else aside, for those who care, and FWIW, I think Blinky and SeaBass have an excellent shot of winning the thing. My guess is Blinky helps SeaBass get acclomated for a couple days and Bourdais becomes the threat to win it.

Again, FWIW.

[Railbird]

Still can't admit you were worng, huh?

No sweat tater, I was way too wrong and as always you are the top dog.

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_feb2001/WrongTree.jpg

Now as you were pretty sure Kermit decided to abstain I would be interested in knowing why he changed his mind?

[JT265]

I hope fat Carl is the last of the CC owners affected with Findyitis. And he's not contiagous. There oughta be a CC race that weekend. Preferably a nice street race. In maybe Chicago.

He is. I watched while he performed oral sex on a cuban on Saturday with a rather perturbed look on his face at an earl joke. Obviously I don't show the proper respect for the Halllowed Yard 'O Bricks.

And for those of you that wonder where HonDUH is going, look no farther than the CASCAR Series in Canada.

Johnnie Scoop X 2. :rofl:

[DagoFast]

ForMoola One? fatCarl? As Bernies official food taster?

F1 at LB>ok...but what about findy?

[Spicoli]

No sweat tater, I was way too wrong and as always you are the top dog.

http://www.joe-ks.com/archives_feb2001/WrongTree.jpg

Now as you were pretty sure Kermit decided to abstain I would be interested in knowing why he changed his mind?

Because Honda says so. And Honda won't be in the IRL anymore. And FatCarl has a chance to be a Honda factory team in CCWS come 07.

See, Honda (like Yoda) hasn't denied they are leaving, since "the Kirby leak". Crap, we're woking on nearly 5 days now, and not a ****ing peep out of those guys. :saywhat:

So maybe while the Yoda boys are ready for NASCAR and conquering GM on every front, maybe Honda likes the idea of running a US OW series that has races in Canada, Mexico, Australia, Korea and China (with SA a likely add in 06). They see the rejuvenated CCWS series, witnessed LBGP's enthusiasm, appreciate the diehard committed fans, and likewise see a failed Vision :gomer: in Homestead, Phoenix...and beyond.....they have to spend that 100million a year somewhere. Might as well do it wher someone is actually watching.

The XFT is a rock solid motor, and Homoco's own 2.65 liter T is just sitting on a shelf somewhere. What's the big harm in inviting a little competition in the CCWS field? Where's FTG's amazing new motor spec? Will Honda fund the entire EARL field in 07? :crickets:

The teams get the fans back, the fans get their racing back, Yoda moves on, and what about FTG?

Well, he gets his race back. If it truly is and was all about Indy, the idiotgrandson should realize, this is his last chance at saving that race. The IRL has failed on every level, every version of the Vision. Maybe its time someone like the boys from Honda knock some sense into him.

[CHAMPCARS4EVER]

Because Honda says so. And Honda won't be in the IRL anymore. And FatCarl has a chance to be a Honda factory team in CCWS come 07.

See, Honda (like Yoda) hasn't denied they are leaving, since "the Kirby leak". Crap, we're woking on nearly 5 days now, and not a ****ing peep out of those guys. :saywhat:

So maybe while the Yoda boys are ready for NASCAR and conquering GM on every front, maybe Honda likes the idea of running a US OW series that has races in Canada, Mexico, Australia, Korea and China (with SA a likely add in 06). They see the rejuvenated CCWS series, witnessed LBGP's enthusiasm, appreciate the diehard committed fans, and likewise see a failed Vision :gomer: in Homestead, Phoenix...and beyond.....they have to spend that 100million a year somewhere. Might as well do it wher someone is actually watching.

The XFT is a rock solid motor, and Homoco's own 2.65 liter T is just sitting on a shelf somewhere. What's the big harm in inviting a little competition in the CCWS field? Where's FTG's amazing new motor spec? Will Honda fund the entire EARL field in 07? :crickets:

The teams get the fans back, the fans get their racing back, Yoda moves on, and what about FTG?

Well, he gets his race back. If it truly is and was all about Indy, the idiotgrandson should realize, this is his last chance at saving that race. The IRL has failed on every level, every version of the Vision. Maybe its time someone like the boys from Honda knock some sense into him.

Makes too much sense for everyone involved. Hence, it will never happen. :cry: :shakehead

[nrc]

So maybe while the Yoda boys are ready for NASCAR and conquering GM on every front, maybe Honda likes the idea of running a US OW series that has races in Canada, Mexico, Australia, Korea and China (with SA a likely add in 06).

Given the tenor of Mikey Andretti's remarks I can only assume that he's not privy to this plan.

The only way I want Honda back is on a very, very short leash.

[JT265]

Given the tenor of Mikey Andretti's remarks I can only assume that he's not privy to this plan.

The only way I want Honda back is on a very, very short leash.

Let 'em badge a Cosworth. Hell, it can't be a lot harder than badging an Ilmor.

[Railbird]

Honda (like Yoda) hasn't denied they are leaving, since "the Kirby leak". Crap, we're woking on nearly 5 days now, and not a ****ing peep out of those guys


Agreed, their silence must be deafening to the boys at 16th&G'town

[Spicoli]

Agreed, their silence must be deafening to the boys at 16th&G'town

class, please mark this day in your journals:


1. Abe Lincoln was shot

2. Railbird & Spicoli agreed on sumpin.



:D

[cart7]

Well, he gets his race back. If it truly is and was all about Indy, the idiotgrandson should realize, this is his last chance at saving that race. The IRL has failed on every level, every version of the Vision. Maybe its time someone like the boys from Honda knock some sense into him.

Oh no you don't. Fonda and Foyota. We don't needem. They ruined the good thing that was going on here in irl land. Remember those .000000000000000012 side-by-side finishes back in 01 & 02? Have ya seen many of those since the nancy boy ex-Cart drivers came over riding in their overpriced rice eater machines. No way, they ain't got the balls to run it into the wall if that's what it takes to put a rise in the laps of irl fans everywhere. Hells bells, I heard the reason for all the mistakes by the ex-Cart RR racers at St. Pete was caused by the steering wheels catching on a stiffy between their legs. We need the good old days back. Someone will come around and build an engine for the series, how could they not? We'll get teams too, Ronnie Hemelgarn has been a talkin to that Billy Banks fella, he's gonna get the Tae Bo folks back on board and his cars will have a cool new paint scheme, flames painted on the REAR of the car. :cool: It's all cause we got Indy and you don't, we got value in Indy and you don't. Evolution baby, evolution. It's all about Indy and you can't understand that cause you just don't know what Indy means. :gomer:

[JT265]

class, please mark this day in your journals:


1. Abe Lincoln was shot

2. Railbird & Spicoli agreed on sumpin.



:D

Shocked and awed. :eek:



:D

[Easy]

He is. I watched while he performed oral sex on a cuban on Saturday with a rather perturbed look on his face at an earl joke. Obviously I don't show the proper respect for the Halllowed Yard 'O Bricks.

:


Don't get confused there, its the hallowed pile of cash he's into.

[Winston Wolfe]

yeah, but the whole thing pisses me off because it helps them get to that "number that is just a number" of 33.... and now the crackform knuckletrons are crowing that "they told ja so".... and there is a chance for a full field to start.
Cant the cigar chompin' mofo just say no, and stay away :flame:

btw: saw Carl riding around on his scooter at the LBGP and he looks as though he has lost a considerable amount of excess blubber... Must be those diet \ atkins \ lo-carb cigars he's been slobbering all over.

[Spicoli]

I think there is more going on here than we can all see.

[JT265]

I think there is more going on here than we can all see.


I CAN'T SEE S**T!!!!!! :eek:









:rofl:

[devilmaster]

I CAN'T SEE S**T!!!!!! :eek:

That explains your abilities driving a race kart.....




:runs:
:p




payback for that google porn search comment

[JT265]

That explains your abilities driving a race kart.....




:runs:
:p




payback for that google porn search comment

Good one. :thumbup:


:Steve blocks like Helio on track: :p

[devilmaster]

:Steve blocks like Helio on track: :p

JT plays with Helio in bed..... :p

[fourrunner]

I think I was worse than JT !! In fact I know I was ....

JT was Driving.... I was in a Foreign Country ... I needed that ride back to the Hotel ! ;);)

[dando]

I think there is more going on here than we can all see.
No doubt. These are indeed interesting times. What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall in a few offices right now. I suspect the month of May might be interesting once again, but not for the reasons FTG would like. Let's hope.

-Kevin

[JT265]

JT plays with Helio in bed..... :p


LOW BLOW!!!! LOW BLOW!!!! :cry:







:I'mtryingtoquit:

:rofl:


<and 4, you were waaay worse than me! If I hadn't had 'kingChic blocking the track, I was on a tear!!> :D

[rabbit]

And then there were 33... (http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/indycar/16196/)
Newman/Haas Addition Brings Indy Field to 33
Written by: Cassio Cortes Indianapolis, Ind. – 4/13/2005

Yesterday’s confirmation that Newman/Haas Racing will enter reigning Champ Car champion Sebastien Bourdais and 2002 Indy pole winner Bruno Junqueira in the upcoming Indianapolis 500 has assured the classic number of 33 confirmed drivers for the 89th running of the May classic.

[fourrunner]

LOW BLOW!!!! LOW BLOW!!!! :cry:







:I'mtryingtoquit:

:rofl:


<and 4, you were waaay worse than me! If I hadn't had 'kingChic blocking the track, I was on a tear!!> :D


It was the Speeds I tell ya ... I was Dizzy ... I had visions of Texas Motor Speedway in my head !! ;)

[Spicoli]

http://home.comcast.net/~jbella299/wsb/media/785717/site1031.jpg