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nrc
04-21-05, 10:28 PM
So who or what are on your shopping list?

With the Bengals hanging on to all their top free agents and adding a couple of worthwhile new ones, they're in pretty good shape going into the draft.

I'd like to see their picks should go like this:

1. A run stopping defensive tackle. Most projections have the one of the top two still available at the Bengal's #17 spot.

2. A tight end who can catch or a center or guard - whichever position has the best player left on the board.

3. Whichever position they didn't fill in the second round or a linebacker who can play if Nate Webster doesn't rehab successfully.

Ankf00
04-21-05, 10:33 PM
If DJ goes to the Lions, it truly will become The University of Texas at Detroit... the amount of D starters from UT would be ridiculous

skaven
04-22-05, 12:12 AM
My local team is now the Denver Donkeys - who I actually like as they try to win, unlike the local cretins called the Bears when I lived in Chicago who ran football like a business (kinda like racing...).

We traded our first round pick for three Redskin picks (3rd this year, 1st and 4th next year) which is a good deal for us as we are spending all our money on the entire Cleveland Brown defensive front four. If I'm not mistaken, weren't these the guys who gave up 295 or so yards to Jamal Lewis - in a single game? Tomlinson and Holmes are pretty good too, and you see them each twice a year.

So, all you Cleveland folks, what is your opinion? Is Shanahan the Mastermind off his rocker, or are these guys going to turn it around? Denver has good linebackers (Wilson, Gold and DJ Williams), but still... the Denver Browns? :saywhat:

Night Train
04-22-05, 12:20 AM
The Panthers will most likely pick either an offensive tacke or wide receiver. Look for Barron of FSU, Brown of Oklahoma or whichever WR falls to 14. If, by chance, any of the Big 3 RBs falls to 14, then they could go RB.

Dr. Corkski
04-22-05, 12:30 AM
NT basically covered the Panthers, they need help to protect Delhomme.

Too bad for the 49ers, they can't draft a new owner. :laugh:

Sean O'Gorman
04-22-05, 12:45 AM
So, all you Cleveland folks, what is your opinion? Is Shanahan the Mastermind off his rocker, or are these guys going to turn it around? Denver has good linebackers (Wilson, Gold and DJ Williams), but still... the Denver Browns? :saywhat:

Look at it this way. On the nfl.com team shop, Jeff Garcia jerseys are still selling for more money than Gerard Warren jerseys. :laugh:

Speaking of which, I'm pissed they wont let me order a custom Ron Mexico jersey. :mad:

skaven
04-22-05, 01:00 AM
What about the other three. Do they suck too? I imagine most players would be better when not playing for Butch Davis. I assume the Cleveland LBs sucked too?

How did Jamal get so many yards? That's just sick and pathetic. :p

Ankf00
04-22-05, 01:10 AM
y'all need to hit up the Ron Mexico name generator :cool:

Sean O'Gorman
04-22-05, 01:19 AM
y'all need to hit up the Ron Mexico name generator :cool:

I don't like the result it came up with for my name.

Sean O'Gorman=Pavel Djibouti

:saywhat:

skaven
04-22-05, 01:40 AM
Back to the Draft.

Signed.

Derek Turkmenistan :thumbup:

Dr. Corkski
04-22-05, 02:01 AM
Hunk Gambia, my new porno name. :gomer:

Lizzerd
04-22-05, 02:05 AM
Colts: A head pounding safety, inside DL "roadblock". blanket cover DB.

Ankf00
04-22-05, 02:07 AM
I don't like the result it came up with for my name.

Sean O'Gorman=Pavel Djibouti

:saywhat:

are you the offspring of Kruschev's wife and Mobutu Sese Seko? :saywhat:

Tim
04-22-05, 02:36 AM
Packers have wasted there first round pick 9 of the last 10 years with Nick Barnett in 03 the exception. I expect more of the same this year.

dando
04-22-05, 08:29 AM
1. A run stopping defensive tackle. Most projections have the one of the top two still available at the Bengal's #17 spot.

2. A tight end who can catch or a center or guard - whichever position has the best player left on the board.


Either of these. Whattaya think about Heath Miller if he's available @ #17? Worth the risk? I would probably prefer a solid DT over a TE, tho. DE E. James would be tempting @ #17, too.

-Kevin

dando
04-22-05, 08:31 AM
If DJ goes to the Lions, it truly will become The University of Texas at Detroit... the amount of D starters from UT would be ridiculous
Hence why the Lions are teh suck. :gomer: :p

-Kevin

Insomniac
04-22-05, 09:01 AM
Look at it this way. On the nfl.com team shop, Jeff Garcia jerseys are still selling for more money than Gerard Warren jerseys. :laugh:

Speaking of which, I'm pissed they wont let me order a custom Ron Mexico jersey. :mad:

Order a Comeix jersey and have someone rearrange the letters. :)

Insomniac
04-22-05, 09:08 AM
The Patriots draft way too far down to venture a guess. But as, TMQB put it:


32. New England: Some guy no one has ever heard of, who will become an instant star.
That works for me. :)

I don't see them moving up since they only have 3 picks (1 is untradeable) on day 1. So, they'll probably take the best player available.

This will be an interesting draft to watch though.

Jervis Tetch 1
04-22-05, 09:59 AM
Patiently awaiting to see who the Colts draft. :cool:

JoeBob
04-22-05, 10:37 AM
Patiently awaiting to see who the Colts draft. :cool:

Is Dr. Heimlich eligable for the draft?

G.
04-22-05, 10:55 AM
So who or what are on your shopping list?

The Chicago Bears needs are very few. They need an offense and a defense. Maybe some special team help, but that is debatable.

:shakehead

Racing Truth
04-22-05, 12:29 PM
My local team is now the Denver Donkeys - who I actually like as they try to win, unlike the local cretins called the Bears when I lived in Chicago who ran football like a business (kinda like racing...).

We traded our first round pick for three Redskin picks (3rd this year, 1st and 4th next year) which is a good deal for us as we are spending all our money on the entire Cleveland Brown defensive front four. If I'm not mistaken, weren't these the guys who gave up 295 or so yards to Jamal Lewis - in a single game? Tomlinson and Holmes are pretty good too, and you see them each twice a year.

So, all you Cleveland folks, what is your opinion? Is Shanahan the Mastermind off his rocker, or are these guys going to turn it around? Denver has good linebackers (Wilson, Gold and DJ Williams), but still... the Denver Browns? :saywhat:

See SeanO's post. As a Browns fan, I can only say "Good luck with that." :laugh:

G.: I feel a John McKay moment coming on after your post. :laugh:

The Doctor
04-22-05, 03:21 PM
Dolphins: Quarterback, running back, OT, future defensive starters, and more draft picks.

With some luck, we'll move down to #10 in the first round next year.

Insomniac
04-23-05, 11:12 AM
Is Dr. Heimlich eligable for the draft?

:)

Insomniac
04-23-05, 11:19 AM
So, all you Cleveland folks, what is your opinion? Is Shanahan the Mastermind off his rocker, or are these guys going to turn it around? Denver has good linebackers (Wilson, Gold and DJ Williams), but still... the Denver Browns? :saywhat:

I'm not a Cleveland fan (or hate them), but that line was the worst in the league last year against the run. However, I am a Patriots fan and their new coach is the former defensive coordinator. If the problem was just coaching, one would think they wouldn't have let them all go. I don't think Shanahan is a mastermind. I think Pat Bowlen's full faith in him gives Denver fans a false sense that he is. I hate to say it, but Denver won those Super Bowls quite some time ago and haven't won a playoff game since. Not to mention they cheated during those seasons. As Racing Truth said, "Good luck with that".

The Doctor
04-23-05, 12:43 PM
Alex Smith went #1 to SF. Ronnie Brown goes #2 to Miami and we get a running back! :thumbup: Now let's see if the Fish will use their second round pick and pick up a key player since Surtain now is definitely not coming back.

Ankf00
04-23-05, 01:10 PM
El Ced


DA BEARS!



awww, poor l'il aaron rodgers isn't #1... or 2, or 3, or 4 :gomer:

Tampa might get to put up with another one of Tedford's robotic QB's ;) njoy!

dando
04-23-05, 01:40 PM
El Ced


DA BEARS!



awww, poor l'il aaron rodgers isn't #1... or 2, or 3, or 4 :gomer:

Tampa might get to put up with another one of Tedford's robotic QB's ;) njoy!

Bears woulda been better off taking MC-13 in the 6th round rather than taking one of them wacky 'horns backs. :gomer: Brown certainly dint do much to dispell the comparisons of him to Wicky. :saywhat:

-Kevin

Classic Apex
04-23-05, 02:05 PM
El Ced


DA BEARS!


THE first ever draft pick of the Bears I've been 100% happy with.

And to top it off, tears streaming down his face when he put on his first Bears hat.

:cool:

(I know, I know, insert crying because he's now a Bear jokes)

Ankf00
04-23-05, 02:09 PM
Bears woulda been better off taking MC-13 in the 6th round rather than taking one of them wacky 'horns backs. :gomer: Brown certainly dint do much to dispell the comparisons of him to Wicky. :saywhat:

-Kevin

ya, a whiney quitter (although I can understand why he broke down at the combine, he put expectations on himself and the weight loss just ruined it for him), or someone who worked his butt off for all 4 yrs... such a tough decision ;)

and El Ced can be a workhorse, he can take it between the tackles, I'm uncertain about his speed vs. the NFL, guess we'll find out, one thing's for sure, he'll certainly be hella better than Salaam or Enis :rofl:

dando
04-23-05, 02:20 PM
Lions take Mike Williams?!? :saywhat: :laugh:

-Kevin

dando
04-23-05, 02:52 PM
The first round takes too damn long. :flame:

And Rodgers waits, and waits, and waits....he may not be taken until the Packers draft @ 24.

Impatiently waiting for the Bengals selection @ #17....

-Kevin

nrc
04-23-05, 02:59 PM
Impatiently waiting for the Bengals selection @ #17....

-Kevin

Hopefully it will be an even longer wait next year. :thumbup:

dando
04-23-05, 03:49 PM
Hopefully it will be an even longer wait next year. :thumbup:
Hope? Did ya listen to Mort? It's a lock, baby. ;)

Pollack over E. James @ DE? Must be concerned that E. James is injury prone. Me thinks the Texans horked our DT pick. But isn't the free agent we picked up from Miami a DT? Still need another DT, CB, TE, and maybe a C.

Who Dey!?!

-Kevin

Tim
04-23-05, 04:10 PM
In the Vikings quest to piss off the state of Wisconsin they take Erasmus James.

I do hope the Packers take Rodgers. I'd feel better if Nall and O'Sullivan weren't the heir apaarents of Brett Favre

nrc
04-23-05, 04:33 PM
Hope? Did ya listen to Mort? It's a lock, baby. ;)Good to get a little respect. Now they gotta walk the walk. Interesting that Kipper didn't blast them for picking against his ratings at DE.


Pollack over E. James @ DE? Must be concerned that E. James is injury prone. Me thinks the Texans horked our DT pick. But isn't the free agent we picked up from Miami a DT? Still need another DT, CB, TE, and maybe a C.Yep, I think Houston threw a wrench in the works. The Bengals did get a veteran tackle from the Dolphins so they probably figure they can afford to take the next best lineman with the top tackle gone.

Reading the scouting reports I'm not sure why they have James rated above Pollack. It may be that they figure Pollack is an "overachiever" who has peaked while James still has room to grow.

One thing's certain - if they put Pollack on one end and Justin Smith on the other Quarterbacks are going to be seeing double. :D

dando
04-23-05, 04:44 PM
I do hope the Packers take Rodgers. I'd feel better if Nall and O'Sullivan weren't the heir apaarents of Brett Favre

Bingo! Nailed that one.

:bows:

;)

-Kevin

Dr. Corkski
04-23-05, 04:45 PM
Packers beat the Niners again. :cry:

dando
04-23-05, 04:51 PM
One thing's certain - if they put Pollack on one end and Justin Smith on the other Quarterbacks are going to be seeing double. :D

QB sammich on white. :)

We'll see how far Heath Miller falls into the 2nd round (assuming doesn't go in the next few picks). Otherwise, they need to get another CB and then a DT or C. Once that happens, itz back to Detroit! w00t! :)

-Kevin

Racing Truth
04-23-05, 05:18 PM
Browns picked a difference maker, though he'll need to attend for his unfortunate college roots. ;)

Overall, :thumbup: .

Now, the 2nd round pick will be interesting. Will they go, as I might prefer, with Charlie Frye of Akron, or someone from the front 7, or as an outside longshot, Mike Nugent?

dando
04-23-05, 05:45 PM
Browns picked a difference maker, though he'll need to attend for his unfortunate college roots. ;)

Overall, :thumbup: .

Now, the 2nd round pick will be interesting. Will they go, as I might prefer, with Charlie Frye of Akron, or someone from the front 7, or as an outside longshot, Mike Nugent?
Frye, yes. Picking a K @ #2....you've got to be smoking crack. Nuge is freaking awesome, but he's a KICKER. The Brownies desperately need help elsewhere. OL, CB, DL, LB...you name it, they need it.

Dunno about Edwards. U/M doesn't have a good track record w/WRs in the NFL (AC, Desmond, Terrel, etc.). On paper it's a solid pick, tho.

-Kevin

Racing Truth
04-23-05, 05:54 PM
Frye, yes. Picking a K @ #2....you've got to be smoking crack. Nuge is freaking awesome, but he's a KICKER. The Brownies desperately need help elsewhere. OL, CB, DL, LB...you name it, they need it.

Dunno about Edwards. U/M doesn't have a good track record w/WRs in the NFL (AC, Desmond, Terrel, etc.). On paper it's a solid pick, tho.

-Kevin

I don't disagree on Nuge, BUT many doubt Dawson's long-term viability. His leg strength is AWFUL. No, I wouldn't pick him at 34, but it was just a crazy possibility.

Ya, we have a ton of needs, though.

dando
04-23-05, 06:08 PM
Ya, we have a ton of needs, though.
Fix the OL and DL before worrying about game-winning kicks. :)

-Kevin

nrc
04-23-05, 06:10 PM
QB sammich on white. :)

We'll see how far Heath Miller falls into the 2nd round (assuming doesn't go in the next few picks). Otherwise, they need to get another CB and then a DT or C. Once that happens, itz back to Detroit! w00t! :)

-Kevin

BTW, Lewis commented that they're looking to put Pollack at Outside Linebacker and rushing the passer on third down.

dando
04-23-05, 06:17 PM
BTW, Lewis commented that they're looking to put Pollack at Outside Linebacker and rushing the passer on third down.
Interesting. I missed that (watching the 'spring' game, 2).

So much for Heath Miller...how 'bout drafting Stanley Wilson II @ #2? ;)

-Kevin

nrc
04-23-05, 06:37 PM
Interesting. I missed that (watching the 'spring' game, 2).

So much for Heath Miller...how 'bout drafting Stanley Wilson II @ #2? ;)

-Kevin

Not sure if it was ever mentioned on ESPN. I found it on the Bengal's site.
http://www.bengals.com/press/news.asp?iCurPage=0&news_id=2857

Wow. Wasn't up to date on the Stanley Wilson story.
His father’s future is unclear. Nearly six years ago in Los Angeles, a judge sentenced Wilson to 22 years in prison for stealing $130,000 worth of property while also throwing out a third offense. At the time, his lawyer said the elder Wilson suffered from a bipolar disorder that ranged from mania to depression.Glad to hear that his son seems to have learned from his mistakes.

dando
04-23-05, 07:40 PM
Whoa, Nuge goes in the 2nd round to the NYJ. :thumbup: :cool:

Up next, the former Bungles....

-Kevin

Racing Truth
04-23-05, 07:42 PM
Whoa, Nuge goes in the 2nd round to the NYJ. :thumbup: :cool:

Up next, the former Bungles....

-Kevin

Yeah, they had been talking about Nuge going in the 2nd. :thumbup:

dando
04-23-05, 07:54 PM
Wow. Wasn't up to date on the Stanley Wilson story.Glad to hear that his son seems to have learned from his mistakes.
Yeah, there was a story on Stanley II in the Dogpatch or on Bengals.com recently. Impressive that he was accepted into Stanford. I hope he stays clean. I really rooted for Stanley I back in the mid-80s. Twas a killer backfield w/him pairing up w/Ickey.

ILB drafted @ #2. I suspect that means that Webster or Hardy will be gone.

-Kevin

Ankf00
04-23-05, 09:00 PM
2 OLB's went before DJ... that is just hilarious.

the only reason teddy lehman won the butkus before is cuz he was faster than 4.5... which was ok considering his shuttle times were worse than DJ bt the okies proclaimed him the second coming of jeebus... only turns out DJ is not only faster in the 40, he was fastest ever for an LB in shuttle cone drills... but shaun merriman goes as 1st OLB in the draft :laugh: KC wont have any probs at D, DJ == best LB in college for 2 years now, too bad he didnt go to Detroit, The Univeristy of Texas at Detroit coulda used some more back

skaven
04-23-05, 09:01 PM
I don't think Shanahan is a mastermind. I think Pat Bowlen's full faith in him gives Denver fans a false sense that he is. I hate to say it, but Denver won those Super Bowls quite some time ago and haven't won a playoff game since. Not to mention they cheated during those seasons. As Racing Truth said, "Good luck with that".

All true. The fans here are still willing to give Shanny the benefit of the doubt on those two Superbowls. But the expectations are high here, so the fans might turn on him yet.

Hmmm.... mastermind takes a CB from the Big 12 in the first round to back up the Denver Brown defensive line. I'm sure Peyton's scared. :shakehead

Sean O'Gorman
04-23-05, 09:35 PM
So whats the deal with this Frye guy, is he any good?

dando
04-23-05, 09:59 PM
So whats the deal with this Frye guy, is he any good?
Well, he's from Akron, so he must be as good as LeBron, eh? :gomer:

Dunno. He was ranked #4 or #5 among QBs according to my info....could be a 'sleeper' like Big Ben. The MAC was a bit down last year, so who knows. He could be like them goofy RBs from Tejas. :gomer:


-Kevin

dando
04-23-05, 10:12 PM
Interesting that the Bengals selected two players that are considered problem children. Doesn't fit the Coach Marvin model. Hmmm...

-Kevin

dando
04-24-05, 03:04 AM
All true. The fans here are still willing to give Shanny the benefit of the doubt on those two Superbowls. But the expectations are high here, so the fans might turn on him yet.

Hmmm.... mastermind takes a CB from the Big 12 in the first round to back up the Denver Brown defensive line. I'm sure Peyton's scared. :shakehead
Laffs...Broncos/Browns take a flyer on MC-13 with the last pick of the 3rd round. More Broncos magic w/RBs?

-Kevin

Racing Truth
04-24-05, 12:12 PM
So whats the deal with this Frye guy, is he any good?

To be sure, he's not likely to be the 2nd coming of Elway, but I'm ecstatic that we got him in Rd. 3.

Hell, he's pretty much carried Akron by himself, and practically beat Marshall by himself.

Mobility helps too. He'll impress. :cool:

Napoleon
04-24-05, 12:18 PM
To be sure, he's not likely to be the 2nd coming of Elway, but I'm ecstatic that we got him in Rd. 3.

That may have almost been a steal in the 3rd round. Bonus for the Browns is that it will give them a lot of local PR which may help to pump up enthusiasm for the team this year, after several bad years.

As I type this he is on WTAM 1100 and he is a good interview.

Sean O'Gorman
04-24-05, 12:25 PM
Well, he's from Akron, so he must be as good as LeBron, eh? :gomer:

That was the first thing that popped into my mind last night too, wondering how many people consider him the next LeBron. :laugh:

Racing Truth
04-24-05, 12:40 PM
That may have almost been a steal in the 3rd round. Bonus for the Browns is that it will give them a lot of local PR which may help to pump up enthusiasm for the team this year, after several bad years.

As I type this he is on WTAM 1100 and he is a good interview.

Right, and unlike, say, SF, he'll be able to be groomed to take over. Dilfer is no star, but he'll be good for the kid.

nrc
04-24-05, 01:18 PM
Laffs...Broncos/Browns take a flyer on MC-13 with the last pick of the 3rd round. More Broncos magic w/RBs?

I guess they're the place for three year project running back - but the 3rd round? They don't have any need positions they could fill in the 3rd?

On the Bengal picks, Lewis said he's convinced they won't be a problem. The particularly seemed to think that Chris Henry was a steal in the third. 4th pick for the Bengals is a smart, talented but raw Center. Hope Paul Alexander can work his magic before Braham gives out.

dando
04-24-05, 01:27 PM
Right, and unlike, say, SF, he'll be able to be groomed to take over. Dilfer is no star, but he'll be good for the kid.
Well, I hope Dilfer, Frye guy, and McUnkown can run, and fast....they're gonna need to w/the Brownies ignoring the OL thus far. :rolleyes: Otherwise, itz a solid draft for the Brownies.

-Kevin

dando
04-24-05, 01:39 PM
On the Bengal picks, Lewis said he's convinced they won't be a problem. The particularly seemed to think that Chris Henry was a steal in the third. 4th pick for the Bengals is a smart, talented but raw Center. Hope Paul Alexander can work his magic before Braham gives out.

Seems like a solid draft so far, but not spectacular. The C they drafted sounds like the same kind of they made last year @ OT (Andrews). I'm not sure about Henry, but I wonder if that spells the end of PW's time in Cincy? I hope a TE is the next selection.

-Kevin

dando
04-24-05, 02:55 PM
Round 6 and the Brownies still don't draft an OL? Weakest part of the team bar none. Prolly a good thing they dint go out and get QB higher than #3.

-Kevin

Racing Truth
04-24-05, 03:30 PM
Round 6 and the Brownies still don't draft an OL? Weakest part of the team bar none. Prolly a good thing they dint go out and get QB higher than #3.

-Kevin

Well, they got 2 guards through free agency, and we'll see if they try for more. H=ll they've gotten their share of 2-4 rd. OL in the past. Hasn't really worked well.

dando
04-24-05, 03:32 PM
Dang. Who Deys draft another WR @ #6. Sounds like this guy could really mean the end of PW, as he is a kick returner, 2.

I was hoping Swancutt would be around, or possibly going after Shazor. Maybe that's why I'm not the GM. ;)

-Kevin

dando
04-24-05, 03:35 PM
Well, they got 2 guards through free agency, and we'll see if they try for more. H=ll they've gotten their share of 2-4 rd. OL in the past. Hasn't really worked well.
Yeah, but it could be who was drafting those OLs. ;) Considering the injuries they've had in the past, I would have expected 1 or 2 OLs for the Brownies. Again, that's why I'm not the GM. :)

-Kevin

skaven
04-24-05, 09:05 PM
Laffs...Broncos/Browns take a flyer on MC-13 with the last pick of the 3rd round. More Broncos magic w/RBs?

-Kevin

Ouch... I quit following the draft late Saturday and only just found out that the Browncos took Clarett. Holy... I guess Shanny can afford to wait for him to be good again, two or three years down the road. Maybe. 3 CB with their first three picks and a first day gamble for the suckeye problem child. I guess they want to flood the slots vs. Manning.

Ankf00
04-24-05, 09:19 PM
aaron rodgers :rofl:

dando
04-24-05, 09:46 PM
aaron rodgers :rofl:
Dude ended up in a far better situation than if he were drafted #1 by SF, or Washington, or Cleveland...and perhaps Miami. Learning behind Farve will benefit him immensely. In the meantime, Alex Smith will be getting fitted for dentures by week 3.

Oh, and I caught some of the DraftCentral chat on ESPN.com today...Bears fan was comparing Brown to A. Train. :rofl:

-Kevin

dando
04-24-05, 09:49 PM
Ouch... I quit following the draft late Saturday and only just found out that the Browncos took Clarett. Holy... I guess Shanny can afford to wait for him to be good again, two or three years down the road. Maybe. 3 CB with their first three picks and a first day gamble for the suckeye problem child. I guess they want to flood the slots vs. Manning.
The real problem for the Denver Browns is they picked up three under achieving DLs from the Brownies Redux. Me thinks Shanny is suffering from a Napoleon complex.

-Kevin

nrc
04-25-05, 12:06 AM
No TE pick for the Bengals. Rats. I really think they need to get some production out of that position. Of course there will probably be undrafted free agents who can give the current crew a run for their money.

PW may fall victim to his knee injuries which is a shame, but the good news is that Kelly Washington will have to start doing something besides show boating on the rare occaisions when he does actually catch a pass.

Dr. Corkski
04-25-05, 01:45 AM
Like Frye can do any worse than Tim Couch. :laugh:

Panthers pick up Stefan LeFors in the 4th round, he should be good to take over by the time Delhomme is done. :thumbup:

Dr. Corkski
04-25-05, 01:49 AM
The real problem for the Denver Browns is they picked up three under achieving DLs from the Brownies Redux. Me thinks Shanny is suffering from a Napoleon complex.

-KevinThey should have just picked up Troy Brown. He would probably end up being more useful than any of those three former Browns pylons.

Insomniac
04-25-05, 08:25 AM
Dude ended up in a far better situation than if he were drafted #1 by SF, or Washington, or Cleveland...and perhaps Miami. Learning behind Farve will benefit him immensely. In the meantime, Alex Smith will be getting fitted for dentures by week 3.

When he takes over, just hope the pressure to succeed Favre isn't too high.

Insomniac
04-25-05, 08:26 AM
They should have just picked up Troy Brown. He would probably end up being more useful than any of those three former Browns pylons.

Troy Brown is going to be a Patriot again!

Ankf00
04-25-05, 09:54 AM
When he takes over, just hope the pressure to succeed Favre isn't too high.

you never want to be the guy to replace a legend, you want to be the guy that replaces the replacement.

devilmaster
04-25-05, 10:43 AM
Dude ended up in a far better situation than if he were drafted #1 by SF, or Washington, or Cleveland...and perhaps Miami. Learning behind Farve will benefit him immensely. In the meantime, Alex Smith will be getting fitted for dentures by week 3.

Problem with Rogers might be the Tedford effect.... see: Harrington, Joey; Smith, Aliki; Feeley, AJ; Carr, David; Boller, Kyle; Dilfer, Trent;

Total, 1 ring, record of 104-134

On the home front - I am not a happy camper at all. Hope the Lions prove me wrong, but taking a wideout when a more pressing need is shoring up the defence.......

Jervis Tetch 1
04-25-05, 10:43 AM
I'm happy the Colts had a good draft. :D

Insomniac
04-25-05, 01:03 PM
you never want to be the guy to replace a legend, you want to be the guy that replaces the replacement.

Steve Young didn't do too bad. ;)

Racing Truth
04-25-05, 04:00 PM
Like Frye can do any worse than Tim Couch. :laugh:



Oh really?

Sincerely,

Luke McCown

Dr. Corkski
04-25-05, 04:37 PM
you never want to be the guy to replace a legend, you want to be the guy that replaces the replacement.Not when the guy Smith is replacing was so banged up that he would be rejected as an organ donor.

Sean O'Gorman
04-25-05, 07:07 PM
Not when the guy Smith is replacing was so banged up that he would be rejected as an organ donor.

Rattay is a legend?

Ank is talking about Green Bay, not San Fran, try and keep up.

Dr. Corkski
04-25-05, 07:10 PM
Rattay is a legend?

Ank is talking about Green Bay, not San Fran, try and keep up.Rattay was the replacement that Ank would say Smith wants to be replacing.

Besides, Rattay had the same QB rating as Ron Mexico. I guess you could call him a legend.

Stick to Grand-Am. :gomer:

Sean O'Gorman
04-25-05, 07:14 PM
Rattay was the replacement that Ank would say Smith wants to be replacing.

Besides, Rattay had the same QB rating as Ron Mexico. I guess you could call him a legend.

Stick to Grand-Am. :gomer:

Go and reread his post, he is talking about Favre's replacement, not San Fran. Even using your logic, the "legend" being referred to is Jeff Garcia.

Stick to hating on Villeneuve. :gomer: :gomer:

Dr. Corkski
04-25-05, 07:17 PM
Go and reread his post, he is talking about Favre's replacement, not San Fran. Even using your logic, the "legend" being referred to is Jeff Garcia.

Stick to hating on Villeneuve.Garcia was still a pro-bowler. :gomer: :gomer: :gomer: :gomer:

Sean O'Gorman
04-25-05, 07:26 PM
Garcia was still a pro-bowler. :gomer: :gomer: :gomer:

Yeah, because you know how when you think of legendary San Francisco quarterbacks, Jeff Garcia is the first name that comes to mind...

Who would've thought that Cork is a Garcia fanboy? http://www.mr2oc.com/images/xtrasmilies/rainbow.gif

dando
04-25-05, 07:28 PM
No TE pick for the Bengals. Rats. I really think they need to get some production out of that position. Of course there will probably be undrafted free agents who can give the current crew a run for their money.

I was actually pizzed that Mr. Irrelevant was the dark horse TE I was hoping the Bengals could sign as an FA. :(

Too bad to see Munoz II decide to quite foosball. 2x :(

-Kevin

Ankf00
04-25-05, 08:59 PM
Lions shoulda taken DJ, he will be a monster. I don't see how Pasquerelli can hate on him while he was sucking off Lehman along with the rest of the media the past 2 years, Lehman's good, but most of that hype was based on his "speed" which turns out, is only .01-.03 faster than DJ, not the faster than a lightning bolt speed everyone accredited to him previously, and DJ has always been the better one at blowing plays up...

corkie, I was talking about your boy, and future NFL-reject, Rodgers

and yes, Tedford would give me a hard-on as the UT off co., but his NFL qb's are ALWAYS overrated

dando
04-25-05, 09:26 PM
you never want to be the guy to replace a legend, you want to be the guy that replaces the replacement.

You mean like Steve Young after whatizname #16? :gomer:

-Kevin