How much is gas where you are?

[cameraman]

Maybe if it stays over $4 for a year or three someone will actually buy a Chevy Volt.

95% of the time I drive less than 10 miles a day. If someone came up with an electric plugin that wasn't a **** box I might seriously consider getting one. Turning the Subie on, driving 2 or 3 miles and shutting it off again is kind of hard on the engine and does not result in great mileage. It's 16 years old and has 124,000 miles on it.

[Kiwifan]

Emmuch a L is your take? :gomer:

8 cpl gross :-)

[Gnam]

for one gallon of 87 octane:
$ 4.23 on Sun. <-- (1.12/liter)

That's up 12 cents from just last Thursday.

$100 buys 23.6 gallons.

[chop456]

$4.09 for diesel tonight.

[NismoZ]

*

[grungex]

$4.19 for regular yesterday. Apparently we need really special fuel in Chicagoland... A-holes.

[Corner5]

We need alternative fuel and alternative transportation.

Check out this documentary,the oil companies are very powerful.

CO8CR1mIIk4

[NismoZ]

OK, so you get a plug in and ...plug it in. Just where would all that "fuel" flowing into your "energy efficient" vehicle come from? I vote for a plan that runs everything on methane gas. Plenty of that around. Then I'd like to invest in the company that comes up with the converter that makes the exhaust smell like roses. How 'bout an in-home unit that pumps the gas from your bathroom directly into your garage storage tank? FILL 'ER UP...every morning before you leave for work! Probably against all the emmissions laws, huh?

[Corner5]

The water engine has been invented many times.

m_21KafrwRc


List of Water Powered Car Inventors
Hi I have been following the trail of potential water powered cars for a few years now, over this time I have compiled a list of successful inventors!
Here they are!
Andriah Puharich
Archie blue
Bob Boyce
Carl Cella
Charles H. Garrett
Daniel Dingel
Hector Pierre Vaes
Nakamatsu Yoshiro
Sam Leslie Leach
Stanley Meyer
Steven Horvarth
And a few other unidentified people!
The most noteable of these was Stanley Meyer who is dead unfortunatley! In fact so are Carl Cella & Hector Pierre Vaes all before there time and under suspicious cercumstances! The rest have either been threatend, sold out or keep to them selves! Apparently it's not a good idea to threaten Big Oil companys. An internet search will find info all of these individuals!

[NismoZ]

My point exactly...METHANE GAS! What are they gonna do, kill everything that takes a crap!?;)

[Gnam]

95% of the time I drive less than 10 miles a day. If someone came up with an electric plugin that wasn't a **** box I might seriously consider getting one. Turning the Subie on, driving 2 or 3 miles and shutting it off again is kind of hard on the engine and does not result in great mileage. It's 16 years old and has 124,000 miles on it.

perfect 4 u. :D

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/971/autosys17479397174da6fe.jpg

http://www.napavalleywheels.com/details.php?eqvehicleid=45355882&eqdealerid=202633

[devilmaster]

perfect 4 u. :D

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/971/autosys17479397174da6fe.jpg

http://www.napavalleywheels.com/details.php?eqvehicleid=45355882&eqdealerid=202633

ummmm....

BSaIv_5-Mho

[nrc]

Even though it was entirely predictable that whole Robin bit had me rolling... so to speak. :gomer:

[nrc]

Big oil bought up the rights to my perpetual motion machine. That's how we can afford to run Off Camber. :gomer:

[dando]

Big oil bought up the rights to my perpetual motion machine. That's how we can afford to run Off Camber. :gomer:

The Slinky on an escalator? :gomer: :p

-Kevin

[trish]

The news said gas could go up to $6 a gallon this summer.

[NismoZ]

"The News" is also talking about our salvation...METHANOL!:D $1.20/gal? Mandate turbos but ban wings!:rofl:

[Ziggy]

we are going to pay whatever they charge

take oil/gasoline off the future's market :eek:

[Don Quixote]

"The News" is also talking about our salvation...METHANOL!:D $1.20/gal? Mandate turbos but ban wings!:rofl:And put the engines in front.

[devilmaster]

1.32 in windsor...

*3.785

=4.9962

And I have a 1150 mile drive next week.... in a durango.... wtih a 13/17 rating....

does that whole acetate thingy work? :gomer:

[devilmaster]

We need alternative fuel and alternative transportation.

Fuel is not a problem as long as a guy can drive to a big box which is no where near any residential, pick up 3 litres of milk and then walk out....

[Insomniac]

Fuel is not a problem as long as a guy can drive to a big box which is no where near any residential, pick up 3 litres of milk and then walk out....

And a liter of milk is what, $1?

[devilmaster]

And a liter of milk is what, $1?

Actually way more. A few years ago, Dairy farmers began protesting the government against supply and demand of low prices. Mega farms were overproducing on demand and flooding the market. The smaller family farmers drove their tractors on the highways to Ottawa, bottling up traffic and won a unique decision, which in the end probably spelled the doom of the small dairy farmer even quicker.

Which is, that the dairy board of Canada is allowed to set the price of industrial milk. Industrial milk is the milk made into commercial products. It is, in all effect, a milk cartel.

Every year (around Feb/Mar) the price goes up, regardless of actual dairy consumption (which actually has been going down).

Prices naturally vary depending on store to store. The major chains all have smaller, value brand chain stores as well, so you see a wonderful class system of grocery shopping. :\

So various prices that, as I shop for restaurants, I see on a daily basis.

2% milk, 2 L carton, $4 - $5
35% heavy cream, 1 L carton, $7-9 sometimes over 10 in the high falootin grocery stores
Cheddar, 5 pds block, $25.99
Mozzarella, 5 pds block, $21.99
Swiss, 5 pds block, $60-$70

So useless Canadian trivia aside, I guess the past 5 years of my life I could have had many titles.... general manager, chef, server, diswasher, cook, restauranteur.... but truthfully my title should be professional grocery shopper.

In this job its not what I mostly do, but it requires the most of my time and energy. Trying to find product we use at the cheapest rate but at stores that are in my 'shopping zone' so I'm not driving over hell's half acre for something that saves me 50 cents.... Its a constant daily battle.

But I'm a people watcher and I see those like the guy in Costco who drove out of his way on a Thursday afternoon round 2 pm, park in a humongous parking lot, walked all the way to the back of a monster building, picked out his bags of milk and left. Most of the grocery stores I hit are not in residential areas anymore. They are not 'walking distance' stores. And people drive in, buy a couple things and drive out.

We're a throwaway society. Finding alternative energies is not about saving money, its not about helping the planet. Its about being able to continue our me-first throwaway way of life.

Where's the energy crisis? As long as people don't think that they have a problem driving a couple miles when they need one little store bought item, we're fine. :\

[Indy]

devilmaster :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[cameraman]

Whole milk, 1/2 gallon in the returnable glass bottle delivered by the milkman = $3.59. That would be real whole milk, not skim with the fat added back in to meet the minimum standard:saywhat: How ****ed up is the world when you have to actually ask if that is the case:irked:

[NismoZ]

So, home delivered milk is $7.18 a gallon?:eek: That comes with a smile and a pleasant "good morning," I assume? Going over to happily gas up the little Mazda now!

[Elmo T]

Bought gas right at the DC Beltway yesterday - $4.49 for premium (as specified by Subaru for the Tribeca). I opted for the cheap stuff this time and paid a few cents over $4. :eek:

Gas inside the Beltway was even more expensive.

[dando]

$3.89 around these parts. Of course I get the privilege to pay $.10 more for 89 for the Bimmer. :saywhat: Late last week it ranged from $3.61 to $3.89 w/in a 5-10 mile radius in NW Cbus. :irked:

-Kevin

[Insomniac]

Bought gas right at the DC Beltway yesterday - $4.49 for premium (as specified by Subaru for the Tribeca). I opted for the cheap stuff this time and paid a few cents over $4. :eek:

Gas inside the Beltway was even more expensive.

Just wondering, why did you go with a lesser grade when they specify higher?

[Elmo T]

Just wondering, why did you go with a lesser grade when they specify higher?

I was being cheap.

I almost always put the premium in - for the times I haven't, the only difference I've noticed with the lesser grades is lower gas mileage.

[cameraman]

Just wondering, why did you go with a lesser grade when they specify higher?

It was a recommendation not an absolute requirement on the Tribeca. The older version of the H6 had some hot spots in the design that made Subaru recommend the higher octane fuel. The new H6 has been redesigned to fix that specific problem and it runs happily on regular.

[Insomniac]

I was being cheap.

I almost always put the premium in - for the times I haven't, the only difference I've noticed with the lesser grades is lower gas mileage.

I see. I was just wondering. We have a Legacy and the manual says to change oil ever 7500 miles or 6 months. So it seems like they aren't ones to say stuff unless they thought it was needed. (Just comparing to what seems like the standard of 3000 miles or 3 months.)

[chop456]

I don't think 3/3,000 has been any manufacturer's recommendation for a while - just Jiffy Lube's.

Where's bIF when you need him?

[Elmo T]

So you all have me wondering now, so I went I pulled up the owner's manual for the '07 Tribeca. Here it is chapter and verse:


Use unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 91 AKI or higher.
Regular unleaded gasoline with an octane rating of 87 AKI or higher
may be used. However for optimum engine performance and
driveability, it is recommended that you use 91 AKI or higher grade
unleaded gasoline. You may experience reduced output, poor accelerator
response, and reduced fuel economy when using gasoline
with an octane rating lower than 91 AKI, depending on your
driving habits and conditions. If you experience any of these conditions
while using a lower octane rated fuel, you may want to return
to using 91 AKI octane rated fuel as soon as possible. Additionally,
if your vehicle knocks heavily or persistently, or if you are
driving with heavy loads such as when towing a trailer, the use of
91 AKI or higher grade unleaded gasoline is required.

[dando]

We spiked to $4.19 yesterday from $3.98 the day before. :saywhat:

-Kevin

[Indy]

Saw it from $4.18 to $4.22 yesterday, and then paid $4.19 last night. Pulled into a station that inexplicably had it at $4.05, and they were sold out. Reminded me of 1976, when my family vacationed by train because we could not be sure of finding gas along the way.

[JLMannin]

I gut RUG yesterday at $4.19. Premium today at $4.37.

[Gnam]

87 octane stayed at $4.25/gal all last week.
Today it's $4.31.

A local restaurant started offering complimentary door to door limo service on Wednesday nights. The original idea was to drum up business on a slow night and prevent DUIs, but now they promote it as a way to get drunk and save gas. Double bonus.

[Tifosi24]

87 octane stayed at $4.25/gal all last week.
Today it's $4.31.

A local restaurant started offering complimentary door to door limo service on Wednesday nights. The original idea was to drum up business on a slow night and prevent DUIs, but now they promote it as a way to get drunk and save gas. Double bonus.

I am thinking the limo service will be coming with a two drink minimum in a few weeks.

Twin Cities (South Metro) sitting at $3.999, which is two months faster than in '08. Scary.

[Gnam]

Oil trading below $100/barrel. :saywhat:

[Gnam]

prices are dropping.
$4.27 last week.
$4.17 this week.

hope it continues.

[SurfaceUnits]

Windoze strikes again

Computer glitch causes gas station to sell 8,000 gallons at $1.10

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/17/computer-glitch-causes-gas-station-to-sell-8-000-gallons-at-1-1/

[cameraman]

The people working in the station at the time need to be fired.

[Gnam]

Price for 87 octane falls to $4.03, then OPEC starts making trouble.

Oil back above $100/barrel.

[dando]

Price for 87 octane falls to $4.03, then OPEC starts making trouble.

Oil back above $100/barrel.

Bend over and grab 'em. :\

-Kevin

[cameraman]

It's about $3.55 for regular in Salt Lake today.

[SurfaceUnits]

$3.309 with your Valero card

[manic mechanic]

I paid $377.9 for BP/ARCO regular today (cheaper than Costco out here right now) in Moreno Valley, but know where I could buy for $3.75.9 (76) if I were in the area (Jurupa Hills). That's a .50 per gallon drop in the last 4-5 weeks.

manic

[dando]

I paid $377.9 for BP/ARCO regular today (cheaper than Costco out here right now) in Moreno Valley, but know where I could buy for $3.75.9 (76) if I were in the area (Jurupa Hills). That's a .50 per gallon drop in the last 4-5 weeks.

manic

Same here. Amazingly 87 dropped to $3.55 (+$.10 for my 89) this past week. :confused:

-Kevin

[devilmaster]

crude continues to drop at the moment, prices reflect that..

[dando]

crude continues to drop at the moment, prices reflect that..

The odd part is that oil prices have been spiking, diving, spiking, diving...rinse and repeat. The norm is for ga$ prices to remain higher and then settle after a bit after oil prices settle. :confused:

-Kevin

[dando]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama-ready-to-release-oil-apf-2233806614.html?x=0&.v=1

So apparently the '12 campaign has officially begun. :saywhat: Gas prices around here have dropped to $3.39 from >$4 a month ago and POTUS releases oil from the SPR now?!? :irked: :shakehead

-Kevin

[KLang]

I guess it is to replace all that oil we were getting from Libya. :\

[devilmaster]

The big one will be what the US leaders do about the keystone pipeline.

From Alberta to the Gulf Coast refiners - Canada is the US's number 1 importer...

[NismoZ]

Dispicable!:mad:

[cameraman]

Gas prices around here have dropped to $3.39 from >$4 a month ago and POTUS releases oil from the SPR now?!? :irked: :shakehead

-Kevin

It isn't just the US. Of the 60 million barrels to be released half will come from North America, 30% from Europe and 20% from Asia. I don't understand how the US is 100% of North America, the Canadians and Mexicans should be involved too. It does not make any sense as crude prices are well down, summer usage looks like it will be lower than usual in the US and the markets have long since adjusted to the loss of Libyan crude.:confused:

Or is this more to make up for the flow reductions on the Keystone pipeline which I guess have been extended through sometime in July? Which doesn't really add up as at most the flow restrictions will reduce the supply by 5 million barrels over the June/July period.

[dando]

30m barrels == a day and a half :saywhat:

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_cons_psup_dc_nus_mbblpd_a.htm

-Kevin

[KLang]

Price of oil is already back above the point it was before the release from the SPR. What was the point again? :rolleyes:

[Ankf00]

The big one will be what the US leaders do about the keystone pipeline.

From Alberta to the Gulf Coast refiners - Canada is the US's number 1 importer...

the delays in keystone XL piss me off. as if pipelines are some unknown technology whose dangers we're unaware of. if we don't do this, encana builds it to the pacific and ships it to china.

[cameraman]

Stop making sense. All it will do is give you a headache.

I was going to add this just for emphasis but it also turns out this is a really good clip...

-pCZ5E5tn4I

[Don Quixote]

if we don't do this, encana builds it to the pacific and ships it to china.News flash, that is exactly what some want. [endpolitics]

[High Sided]

$3.39 at my local BP

[chop456]

$3.73 for diesel.

[Tifosi24]

the delays in keystone XL piss me off. as if pipelines are some unknown technology whose dangers we're unaware of. if we don't do this, encana builds it to the pacific and ships it to china.

I have had the pleasure of working on pipeline project on the regulatory side. Every sane person knows the technology and are not afraid of it, the crazies who want us to live in caves, that is another story.

[dando]

OK, so here's a pisser for ya...I was out and about running errands getting ready for our shore trip (or actually my shore trip since the chicks are already there). Anyway, I noticed ga$ was @ $3.46 @ the local grocery discount station. Check the gauge, and I have a 1/4 tank and a few more of commuting to go, so I'll wait.

Today I'm finishing up the last-minute things, and I'm on fumes so I have to get ga$. As I'm driving to the station, I'm seeing $3.69 along the road. WTF? I'm still hoping the discount station is @ $3.46, but not hopeful. Sure enough $3.69. :irked: So I get ga$ muttering a few choice words. A few hours later I decided get a pizza and pick up a few things from Kroger (Krogers if yer from oHIo). As, I'm leaving I glanced down the service road and the sign lists the price @ $3.43. :saywhat: So I circled around to double check. Yup, $3.43. That was in a span of 3 hours and three days. :mad:

-Kevin

[Cam]

That is one good thing here. You set the price for the day. THAT's where it stays. None of the yoyo bs.

[Insomniac]

OK, so here's a pisser for ya...I was out and about running errands getting ready for our shore trip (or actually my shore trip since the chicks are already there). Anyway, I noticed ga$ was @ $3.46 @ the local grocery discount station. Check the gauge, and I have a 1/4 tank and a few more of commuting to go, so I'll wait.

Today I'm finishing up the last-minute things, and I'm on fumes so I have to get ga$. As I'm driving to the station, I'm seeing $3.69 along the road. WTF? I'm still hoping the discount station is @ $3.46, but not hopeful. Sure enough $3.69. :irked: So I get ga$ muttering a few choice words. A few hours later I decided get a pizza and pick up a few things from Kroger (Krogers if yer from oHIo). As, I'm leaving I glanced down the service road and the sign lists the price @ $3.43. :saywhat: So I circled around to double check. Yup, $3.43. That was in a span of 3 hours and three days. :mad:

-Kevin

The puzzle is how it dropped so fast. Here it rises instantly (multiple cent jump), but slowly trickles back down.

[trish]

We're pretty much over $4 now.

[cameraman]

$3.36 for Shell regular.

[dando]

I saw $3.72 along 76 in PA on the way back from the shore Friday. A BP station that closed 3-4 years ago in OCNJ has a sign frozen in time @ $3.91. We'll be there soon enough now that crude is back up to ~$100/barrel. Perhaps we should tap into the SPR again. :saywhat:

-Kevin

[dando]

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/gas-prices-spike-60-cents/story?id=15519576#.TzFaLHpzi9E

Bend over and grab your ankles. :irked: We've gone from the mid-$3.30s to $3.55 or so around here the past two weeks. It was in the $3.20s in mid-January. :saywhat:

-Kevin

[Methanolandbrats]

After the last six months, I feel like the Goatse dude, I drive a diesel and heat my home with oil.

[High Sided]

here in st. louis gas dropped to $2.98 just before the christmas holidays, filled up yesterday at $3.34 per gallon. :shakehead

[chop456]

$3.69 for diesel.

[Gnam]

$3.77 for 87 and rising...

[Tifosi24]

I have seen a lot of projections for average prices in the $4-$4.25 in the late Spring to early Summer. That isn't going to make me very happy, but I will be really cranky if the Iranians do something stupid this summer.

[Methanolandbrats]

I have seen a lot of projections for average prices in the $4-$4.25 in the late Spring to early Summer. That isn't going to make me very happy, but I will be really cranky if the Israelis do something stupid this summer.

Fixxered.

[Indy]

No politics, back on topic, or I am shutting this thread down.

:nrcstylin':

[DagoFast]

No politics, back on topic, or I am shutting this thread down.

:nrcstylin':


Pffft. The line Meth&Brats snuck in was way more objectionable...but funny!

[DagoFast]

P.S., sorry but I have no current gas prices ($3.??) from AZ to submit. Since we gave the wife's Suburban to the kids and she started rolling like a hamster in her Kia SOUL she doesn't even look at the prices. It's been 19 months and she's barely stopped giggling when the pump clicks off at 9 gallons. (42 gallons to fill a 'Burb)

[Gnam]

$3.93 for 87, up 16 cents from last week.

[cameraman]

$2.999 for Shell regular in Salt Lake.

[Napoleon]

Rising gas prices not demand driven (http://www.businessweek.com/finance/rising-gas-prices-not-demand-driven-02142012.html)

[Gnam]

$4.03 for 87.

edit: story says a fire at a BP refinery in Wash state is the culprit.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/22/BU5K1NAKHH.DTL

[chop456]

$3.73 for diesel.

[dando]

http://tampa.cbslocal.com/2012/02/22/florida-drivers-shelling-out-nearly-6-a-gallon-at-some-gas-stations/

$5.89 outside WDW. :saywhat: :irked: I think we stopped @ one of these on the way back to Hilton Head in 12/10 when prices off I-4 or I-95 were in the upper $2 range. Lesson learned. :(

-Kevin

[dando]

$4.03 for 87.

edit: story says a fire at a BP refinery in Wash state is the culprit.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/02/22/BU5K1NAKHH.DTL

I saw a blurb on the news the other day and there are a few refineries offline presently. The fire on the left coast should only affect prices out there. :saywhat:

-Kevin

[RTKar]

$3.29, Illinois side of the Wi / IL border, just off the interstate

[cameraman]

It is still around $3.09 for regular around the Salt Lake Valley. In the $2.90s at places like Costco & Sam's Club.

[G.]

$3.29, Illinois side of the Wi / IL border, just off the interstate
Check it tomorrow. :irked:

$3.77 in IL tonight. One car was near me, then the guy got in his car and moved over to another pump. As I finished filling, I heard the guy talking to another, the pump they were at was still $3.40.


ffffffuuuuuuuuuuu

[TravelGal]

$4.19 for regular. As of yesterday. Heaven knows what it was today.

[Gnam]

$4.27 for 87. That's up 24 cents overnight. dang.

[Methanolandbrats]

Almost seems like a self-fufilling profitcy doesn't it. Media starts talking about how gas will to to $5 and then it begins a steady march up despite demand being down. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Nothing like giving futures traders the green light to run it up.

[Indy]

US production is way up and demand is way down. But speculation is through the roof and that is driving the price up. So a mechanism that exists to give people who actually trade oil the chance to contractually hedge their physical positions has instead turned into a giant casino that literally threatens the national security of the United States, yet no one dares touch it because the financial industry owns the government. What's the old saying about relaxing and enjoying it?

[nrc]

Oil is still over $100 a barrel and there's a lot of uncertainty in the market. Oil is a global commodity, not a national one and global demand continues to grow.

[Methanolandbrats]

Oil is still over $100 a barrel and there's a lot of uncertainty in the market. Oil is a global commodity, not a national one and global demand continues to grow.

Demand is up a little and uncertainty has been inflated by the propaganda machine. The result is that nobody in the oil futures market dares to be short. They all hit the bid and get long which drives the future prices up. Existing stock is marked up to replacement cost.

[dando]

$3.75 here last night in downtown Dublin. :( Oil spike increasing prices for SWA flight for upcoming WDW trip we are planning. :irked:

-Kevin

[TravelGal]

$4.19 for regular. As of yesterday. Heaven knows what it was today.

Two days later: $4.29 for regular. :rolleyes:

[emjaya]

$1.41 - $1.51/ lt.

That is roughly where it was when I last posted in this thread in 2008. :\

[dando]

Stopped @ BWs to catch the end of Wisky/IU game and it was @ $3.63. Had to stop by the store a couple of hours later and it had shot up to $3.89. :(

-Kevin