4 More Trolling A1GP [Archive]

Jag_Warrior

07-30-05, 05:39 PM

Rumor says Pizzonia, Kanaan, daMatta and even ol' Jos. No room in CC, IRL stinks, screw F-1...try something new!

My guess is Pizzonoa would actually like to race, Kanaan would like to know he's going to get paid and Jos... well, I'll keep quiet on him. But why would da Matta want to go to A1GP? Is he not happy where he is or is something going on behind the scenes? :confused:

cameraman

07-30-05, 06:07 PM

"Team Brazil" to Brazilians is a huge deal.
Whoever gets the A1GP ride will be huge back home...

NismoZ

07-30-05, 08:30 PM

Not to mention he'll probably get a lot of cash if chosen, and CC may have no more than a 1 year "guarantee" on that.

TedN

08-03-05, 08:25 AM

Autosport-Atlas is reporting that Kanaan is a go, pending his release from AGR. Are the rats abandoning the sinking ship?

Team boss Emerson Fittipaldi said that all that stands in the way of the former IRL champion to be the team's main driver is the approval of his Andretti Green Racing team.

Kanaan will test the 550bhp Lola Zytek at the second official A1 Grand Prix test at Paul Ricard at the end of August, the same week he is testing for Formula One team BAR.

Fittipaldi told Autosport-Atlas: "I'm looking for Tony to be the standard driver for the team. He wants to do it. He is already committed but we need a release from Michael [Andretti]."

Ted

racer2c

08-03-05, 09:33 AM

Autosport-Atlas is reporting that Kanaan is a go, pending his release from AGR. Are the rats abandoning the sinking ship?

Ted

There are a few surprises in that quoute. I didn't know Emmo was involved.

As a Champ Car fan, I'm not thrilled about this 'ladder' (IMO) series stealing our drivers. A1GP is a distraction that I'm sure KK and Co. have their eye on. I hope.

Wabbit

08-03-05, 11:31 AM

There are a few surprises in that quoute. I didn't know Emmo was involved.

As a Champ Car fan, I'm not thrilled about this 'ladder' (IMO) series stealing our drivers. A1GP is a distraction that I'm sure KK and Co. have their eye on. I hope.

Cool, maybe they will sell them some Cosworth engines.

cameraman

08-03-05, 12:05 PM

The franchise for the crucial American market has been secured by communications tycoon, Rick Weidinger.

So is Kelley Racing going to be the US A1GP team?

JoeBob

08-03-05, 12:28 PM

Keep in mind that A1GP is racing during the off-season. Nobody is leaving their full time gigs for this deal.

extramundane

08-03-05, 12:48 PM

Keep in mind that A1GP is racing during the off-season. Nobody is leaving their full time gigs for this deal.

Then why is Kanose seeking a release from his AGR contract?

cameraman

08-03-05, 12:52 PM

There is quite a bit over overlap between the seasons. The A1GP schedule this fall looks like this:

September 25, 2005 Great Britian
October 9, 2005 Lausitz, Germany
October 23, 2005 Portugal
November 6, 2005 Sidney Australia
November 20, 2005 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Compared to CCWS

September 24, 2005 Las Vegas
October 16, 2005 Korea
October 23, 2005 Gold Coast Australia
November 6, 2005 Mexico City Mexico

Three of four races are the same weekend.

FCYTravis

08-03-05, 12:53 PM

There's also an overlapping IndyCar Series race - at Watkins Glen on Sept. 25.

Maybe Kanose *is* bailing out?

cart7

08-03-05, 01:02 PM

There's also an overlapping IndyCar Series race - at Watkins Glen on Sept. 25.

Maybe Kanose *is* bailing out?

How many times can you circle an earl oval under yellow, as another driver gets a neckbrace put on and not wonder when it's my turn?

trauma1

08-03-05, 02:27 PM

and now another yoda driver , Dick -son is bailng to A1. also sounds like the welfare check and yen from yoda is going to be stopped

JoeBob

08-03-05, 02:39 PM

His contract might require him to get AGR's permission before racing in any other series.

Kiwifan

08-03-05, 02:57 PM

Yep, Dixons named has been mentioned down here but Bob McMurray (sp) said he would have to prove himself that he was the quickest driver and that if he did come onboard it may be for only two races. I think the Kiwi Team is favouring Matt Halliday. Will post more when the news comes out.

Rusty.

coolhand

08-03-05, 03:46 PM

A1 GP is a threat everyone, but that Sheik wants to take on F1 eventually, and is planning on usin some things from the Champ Car play book.

I talked to somone involved with the brazilian team and he was telling me the finnacial details of it.

(in very simple terms) Each franchise gets around 3 million a season to run A1GP (from the arab guy), and they can still sign sponsors after that. That 3 million covers all the costs of running the season and any other money raised is for profit or towards a driver's salary. So basically a team owner should not loose any money.

It was alot more complicated then that, but it made me wish i started the USA team because its a money maker.

extramundane

08-03-05, 03:49 PM

His contract might require him to get AGR's permission before racing in any other series.

...which is entirely different than seeking a release from said contract.

NismoZ

08-03-05, 09:12 PM

I hear Jeff Simmons is the US Team's 1st driver. (?)

coolhand

08-03-05, 09:55 PM

I hear Jeff Simmons is the US Team's 1st driver. (?)

yeah, is that the best we can muster? :confused:

The Doctor

08-04-05, 01:06 AM

yeah, is that the best we can muster? :confused:

Finishing behind Alex Yoong is not the way to start.

Stats and facts from Day One:

1 Great Britain 48.888 seconds 61 laps
2 Brazil 49.069 97
3 Switzerland 49.095 35
4 France 49.271 52
5 Portugal 49.393 77
6 Pakistan 49.506 41
7 Malaysia 49.634 40
8 USA 49.740 54
9 South Africa 49.864 59
10 Lebanon 49.976 62
11 Australia 50.066 58
12 Mexico 50.265 57
13 Netherlands 50.377 28
14 New Zealand 50.610 64
15 China 55.783 22

Today's drivers:

Great Britain Robbie Kerr, Alex Lloyd
Brazil Nelson Piquet Jr., Danilo Dirani, Joao Paulo Oliveiria
Switzerland Neel Jani
France Loic Duval, Alexandre Premat, Nicolas Lapierre
Portugal Pedro Lamy
Pakistan Adam Kahn
Malaysia Alex Yoong
USA Jeff Simmons
South Africa Stephen Simpson, Thomas Scheckter
Lebanon Kalil Beschir, Basil Shaaban
Australia Christian Jones
Mexico Luis Diaz, Memo Rojas, David Martinez, Salvador Duran
Netherlands Jos Verstappen, Jeroen Bleekemolen
New Zealand Jonny Reid, Matt Halliday
China Qing Hua Ma, Tingyi Jiang

Kiwifan

08-04-05, 01:53 AM

The New Zealand link here. (http://xtramsn.co.nz/sport/0,,12049-4632843,00.html)

We can only improve. ;)

Rusty.

cameraman

08-04-05, 02:24 AM

The Doctor

08-04-05, 02:43 AM

I take it that they are running some shortened version of the Silverstone track. Kimi Raikkonen turned the fastest lap F1 lap this year at 1:20.502 so these A1GP times of 49 seconds can't be compared to the F1 times...

Probably the National circuit. Turns right into the infield at Becketts and returns to the GP circuit before Abbey, I think. SBK ran that version of the circuit this year after having run the GP circuit for, well, ever.

coolhand

08-04-05, 03:00 AM

Finishing behind Alex Yoong is not the way to start.

Stats and facts from Day One:

1 Great Britain 48.888 seconds 61 laps
2 Brazil 49.069 97
3 Switzerland 49.095 35
4 France 49.271 52
5 Portugal 49.393 77
6 Pakistan 49.506 41
7 Malaysia 49.634 40
8 USA 49.740 54
9 South Africa 49.864 59
10 Lebanon 49.976 62
11 Australia 50.066 58
12 Mexico 50.265 57
13 Netherlands 50.377 28
14 New Zealand 50.610 64
15 China 55.783 22

Today's drivers:

Great Britain Robbie Kerr, Alex Lloyd
Brazil Nelson Piquet Jr., Danilo Dirani, Joao Paulo Oliveiria
Switzerland Neel Jani
France Loic Duval, Alexandre Premat, Nicolas Lapierre
Portugal Pedro Lamy
Pakistan Adam Kahn
Malaysia Alex Yoong
USA Jeff Simmons
South Africa Stephen Simpson, Thomas Scheckter
Lebanon Kalil Beschir, Basil Shaaban
Australia Christian Jones
Mexico Luis Diaz, Memo Rojas, David Martinez, Salvador Duran
Netherlands Jos Verstappen, Jeroen Bleekemolen
New Zealand Jonny Reid, Matt Halliday
China Qing Hua Ma, Tingyi Jiang

Lebanon? this is getting strange.

coolhand

08-04-05, 03:03 AM

http://www.a1gp.com/racing/season.php?flashNavId=2

they also have seemed to have picked mostly Champ Car races of the past and future :shakehead

The Doctor

08-04-05, 03:12 AM

Lebanon? this is getting strange.

Libya has a team as well.

Lizzerd

08-04-05, 03:14 AM

coolhand

08-04-05, 03:14 AM

well then this makes sense,

from what i was told these nation-teams are getting paid to run. i doubt there is libyan and lebenese sponsorship sitting around

and then this...
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA080305.03B.Pass_the_A1.1279d489.html

i am sure it all sounded easy once KK picked up Champ Car, and this Sheikh might think it will be easy too. but we know it does not always go according to plan.

http://www.formule2.com/categories.php?cat_id=44&sessionid=3c7c9c63d5bddee9c5ce838562da7933
pictures from silverstone test.

chop456

08-04-05, 03:24 AM

Good lord, how old is Pedro Lamy? :saywhat:

[Edit] Younger than me. D'oh!

coolhand

08-04-05, 03:37 AM

http://www.sutton-images.com/a1gp/

i guess all the teams will operate out of one large warehouse? :confused:

i guess thats the cheapest way to fly each team to each destination

cameraman

08-04-05, 03:37 AM

Those are metric units. :saywhat:

Metric time? :rolleyes:

cameraman

08-04-05, 03:51 AM

Those cars are the same overall length as a Champ car but they are 20 inches narrower (58" vs 78"). :eek:

mapguy

08-04-05, 07:42 AM

Good to see Pedro Lapme back in the saddle.

Sean O'Gorman

08-04-05, 10:31 AM

Metric time? :rolleyes:

LISA: "Principal Skinner, how's your transportation project coming?"

SKINNER: "Oh excellent, not only are the trains now running on time, they're running on metric time. Remember this time people, 80 past 2 on April 47th, it's the dawn of a new enlightenment."

:rofl:

coolhand

08-04-05, 02:28 PM

Those cars are the same overall length as a Champ car but they are 20 inches narrower (58" vs 78"). :eek:

the wheel bases are not the same though correct? the A1 rear wing swoops way back

cameraman

08-04-05, 02:35 PM

A1GP 118 inch wheelbase

Champ Car range 124 to 128 inches, I don't know where the Lola lands in that range.

coolhand

08-04-05, 02:39 PM

A1GP 118 inch wheelbase

Champ Car range 124 to 128 inches, I don't know where the Lola lands in that range.

i think thats the better number to determine which is longer. that rear wing addas alot of "little" length.

http://www.formule2.com/data/media/44/a1gp_sil_mer_lamy.jpg

extramundane

08-04-05, 03:03 PM

i think thats the better number to determine which is longer. that rear wing addas alot of "little" length.

http://www.formule2.com/data/media/44/a1gp_sil_mer_lamy.jpg

That thing is still butt-ugly.

The Doctor

08-04-05, 03:55 PM

Dr. Corkski

08-04-05, 05:05 PM

That thing is still butt-ugly.How dare you say that about a Lola. :gomer:

cameraman

08-04-05, 05:23 PM

It isn't like the folks at Lola didn't have some baggage to deal with...

Inspired by Sheikh Maktoum's vision of exciting-looking vehicles...

coolhand

08-04-05, 05:32 PM

Today's times:

1. France 48.183
2. Switzerland 48.408
3. Brazil 48.439
4. Malaysia 48.535
5. Pakistan 48.573
6. Great Britain 48.585
7. Netherlands 48.766
8. Portugal 48.835
9. New Zealand 49.088
10. South Africa 49.115
11. Australia 49.203
12. Mexico 49.226
13. USA 49.514
14. Lebanon 49.786
15. China 50.640

Ouch. Really, does it have to be Simmons in the car?

go Lebanon! :thumbup:

I really think its weird that a country like Lebanon that has a problem getting its feet on the ground and having a leader for any significant amount of time without getting assasinated is concerned with a multi-million dallor racing francise. but i guess its based in europe and funded by the sheikh.

im part lebanese so USA and Lebanon are my teams. rounding out the bottom of the field :shakehead

FCYTravis

08-04-05, 05:49 PM

Holy mother****. That is the ugliest open-wheel car in history. No. The ugliest CAR in history.

It makes the IRL machines look like concours winners by comparison.

coolhand

08-04-05, 05:58 PM

Holy mother****. That is the ugliest open-wheel car in history. No. The ugliest CAR in history.

It makes the IRL machines look like concours winners by comparison.

some here will swear Lola never made an Ugly car :laugh:

Ed_Severson

08-04-05, 06:00 PM

Holy mother****. That is the ugliest open-wheel car in history. No. The ugliest CAR in history.

I disagree. Ugly isn't just about appearance. This thing's got nothing on a Crapwagon when it comes to the ugliness that lies beneath.

coolhand

08-04-05, 06:10 PM

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums/printthread.php?t=5204

i searched up about this Sheikh. he is in his late 20s, about the same age when King Tony got the reins to American Openwheel.

cameraman

08-04-05, 06:57 PM

im part lebanese so USA and Lebanon are my teams. rounding out the bottom of the field :shakehead

Here is one of your cars....

http://www.suttonimages.com/fotoweb/FWbin/preview.dll/dmc0424no21.jpg?D=69EECD86F8F8F3BBC7438FA4E89E39F1 FA17E75E9484CBB515C4F0DD6BFF94F6C2646A100E7BF4A6E1 2979DEAB8D8620AEB3596584746B8AF1ED00EEA3AF659F976F 55A2CFDBEB5D9E1CCC9B5AE8B3D28F2EC513883AC3F6733694 9E1FAD9D1BFE1E474FF93EAA7D5C5DB227F1BDB1AC

pchall

08-04-05, 07:12 PM

http://www.formule2.com/data/media/44/a1gp_sil_mer_lamy.jpg

That's a really ugly single-seater, IMO.

FRANKY

08-04-05, 07:22 PM

http://www.formule2.com/data/media/44/a1gp_sil_mer_lamy.jpg

That's a really ugly single-seater, IMO.

Crappier Wagon?

pchall

08-04-05, 08:15 PM

Libya has a team as well.

This sheik must have really deep pockets in his kaftan to buy teams for Libya and Lebanon... :gomer:

extramundane

08-04-05, 08:51 PM

How dare you say that about a Lola. :gomer:

What did you expect from a Dallara fanboy? :gomer:

cameraman

08-04-05, 10:00 PM

This sheik must have really deep pockets in his kaftan to buy teams for Lebanon.

He ain't the one. The Lebanon team principal is Tameem Auchi. The name might not mean much but his daddy is Nadhmi Auchi, a hooked up individual if there ever was one:
ONE of Britain’s richest men has become embroiled in a criminal investigation being conducted by the American government into allegations of bribery in Iraq.

Nadhmi Auchi, the country’s 34th richest citizen — worth £898m — has been asked to go to America to assist prosecutors probing a multi-million-pound deal to provide a mobile phone network in Iraq.

Officers of the US attorney-general are investigating the awarding of reconstruction contracts in Iraq following the fall of Saddam Hussein.

A recent report found that an estimated £4.7 billion of reconstruction money is unaccounted for and may have been mis-spent, or lost, as a result of corruption in the awarding of Iraqi contracts.

The mobile-phone deal being probed was won by an Egyptian firm, Orascom, which is part owned by Auchi, 67. Yasser Arafat, the former Palestinian leader who died in November, was also a backer.

Officials from the attorney- general’s office in Illinois recently wrote to Auchi asking him to come for interview. Orascom is accused of paying millions of dollars in bribes to American, British and Iraqi officials in Baghdad. Prosecutors want to question Auchi about his knowledge of the deal.

coolhand

08-05-05, 03:43 AM

Here is one of your cars....

http://www.suttonimages.com/fotoweb/FWbin/preview.dll/dmc0424no21.jpg?D=69EECD86F8F8F3BBC7438FA4E89E39F1 FA17E75E9484CBB515C4F0DD6BFF94F6C2646A100E7BF4A6E1 2979DEAB8D8620AEB3596584746B8AF1ED00EEA3AF659F976F 55A2CFDBEB5D9E1CCC9B5AE8B3D28F2EC513883AC3F6733694 9E1FAD9D1BFE1E474FF93EAA7D5C5DB227F1BDB1AC

not a bad paint job.

between Mexico, Lebanon, Portugal, italy, Libya and a few others, there will be alot of red, white and green cars