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trauma1
10-13-05, 12:46 PM
they don't sound happy that they wil have to supply the whole fiels and have no one to play with, sounds like NASCAR is next fot them

Apparently in an uncharacteristic move, the IRL has openly solicited engine manufacturers to join. Even though the IRL has only been around since 1996, it has never had to ask engine suppliers to join the league.

"In the past, it just happened," Clarke said. "They have not solicited or recruited manufacturers. They just come. I know that was in our case. But I also know that recently the IRL has sent out solicitation letters to manufacturers trying to get their interest in coming to the series to participate."

And the invitation was not well received.

"They either didn't get a response or the response was no," Clarke said.
here's the entire article



IRL down to its lone engine?
Tim Haddock, Columnist



The Indy Racing League might be making its final appearance at California Speedway on Sunday. The Fontana track, site of the IRL season finale the past two years, was not included on the 2006 schedule.
If and when the IRL does come back to California Speedway, there's a good possibility Honda might be the only engine manufacturer in the series.

It's a scenario Robert Clarke, president of Honda Performance Development, is reluctantly anticipating.

Chevrolet is leaving the series at the conclusion of the 2005 season. Toyota will be leaving after the 2006 season. Both engine manufacturers have highly competitive NASCAR engine programs. Part of their reasons for leaving the IRL is to concentrate on NASCAR.

That would leave Honda as the lone engine provider for perhaps as many as 25 drivers in the IRL. It could be as many as 33 drivers for the Indianapolis 500, the highest-profile race in the series.

"For all we know right now, we will be the sole supplier," said Clarke, who oversees the operations of the research and development facility in Santa Clarita for all of the Honda-powered teams. "Moving forward, we feel it's very important because the series from our point of view is actually showing some improvement in popularity with Danica Patrick. It's definitely getting more exposure than it has during the three years we've been involved with the series. For them to leave right when it's doing particularly well, it's very unfortunate because it kind of puts a negative spin on many things."

Clarke would rather see Toyota or Chevrolet stay. Not so much to share the success the IRL has recently discovered with Patrick, the only woman in the series who drives for the Honda-powered Rahal Letterman Racing team. Clarke said Honda would like to have at least one other engine manufacturer with which to compete.

"We're not looking to leave or we're not looking for any excuse or reason to leave," Clarke said. "Many of the objectives we have for being involved in racing are centered around competition. The fact that we may not have competition is something that's concerning to us and something we will have to ultimately come to grips with as we want to proceed."

Although unlikely, lack of competition could also drive Honda away from the IRL, Clarke said. One of those directions is to NASCAR, following Toyota, which made its debut this year in the Craftsman Truck Series and will join the ranks of the Nextel Cup Series in 2008.

"We look at anything and everything all the time," Clarke said. "It's kind of an ongoing process to keep an eye on all the racing series and what they're doing."

Clarke did not say Honda is looking specifically to move into NASCAR, but he did say branching out into another racing series is a possibility.

"From the beginning of HPD, we've always been focused on one singular program," Clarke said. "First that was CART. Now it's the IRL. But going forward, with the resources that we have, we're looking at diversifying into more than just one series."

Before that day comes, though, Clarke would like to see another engine manufacturer join the IRL.

Apparently in an uncharacteristic move, the IRL has openly solicited engine manufacturers to join. Even though the IRL has only been around since 1996, it has never had to ask engine suppliers to join the league.

"In the past, it just happened," Clarke said. "They have not solicited or recruited manufacturers. They just come. I know that was in our case. But I also know that recently the IRL has sent out solicitation letters to manufacturers trying to get their interest in coming to the series to participate."

And the invitation was not well received.

"They either didn't get a response or the response was no," Clarke said.

The future is very uncertain for Honda and the IRL. At a time when the IRL is generating a new-found audience, it's losing two of its strongest supporters: Toyota and Chevrolet. Plus, it's putting a tremendous burden of one of its strongest assets: Honda.

Clarke said given time, Honda will have the resources and the capability to provide the IRL with as many engines as it needs. It looks like Honda has decided to remain committed to the IRL even under the most adverse of circumstances.

"We're in it already," Clarke said. "All I can say, it's being strongly considered that we do stay and that we do our best to help the series, to help it grow and make it better so ultimately more manufacturers are lured to it."

Tim Haddock covers motor sports for the Daily News.

He can be reached at (818) 713-3715 or timothy.haddock@dailynews.com INDY RACING LEAGUE

Toyota Indy 400

trauma1
10-13-05, 12:52 PM
they are not happy campers with EARLS vison



Apparently in an uncharacteristic move, the IRL has openly solicited engine manufacturers to join. Even though the IRL has only been around since 1996, it has never had to ask engine suppliers to join the league.

"In the past, it just happened," Clarke said. "They have not solicited or recruited manufacturers. They just come. I know that was in our case. But I also know that recently the IRL has sent out solicitation letters to manufacturers trying to get their interest in coming to the series to participate."

And the invitation was not well received.


HERE'S THE ENTIRE ARTICLE



IRL down to its lone engine?
Tim Haddock, Columnist



The Indy Racing League might be making its final appearance at California Speedway on Sunday. The Fontana track, site of the IRL season finale the past two years, was not included on the 2006 schedule.
If and when the IRL does come back to California Speedway, there's a good possibility Honda might be the only engine manufacturer in the series.

It's a scenario Robert Clarke, president of Honda Performance Development, is reluctantly anticipating.

Chevrolet is leaving the series at the conclusion of the 2005 season. Toyota will be leaving after the 2006 season. Both engine manufacturers have highly competitive NASCAR engine programs. Part of their reasons for leaving the IRL is to concentrate on NASCAR.

That would leave Honda as the lone engine provider for perhaps as many as 25 drivers in the IRL. It could be as many as 33 drivers for the Indianapolis 500, the highest-profile race in the series.

"For all we know right now, we will be the sole supplier," said Clarke, who oversees the operations of the research and development facility in Santa Clarita for all of the Honda-powered teams. "Moving forward, we feel it's very important because the series from our point of view is actually showing some improvement in popularity with Danica Patrick. It's definitely getting more exposure than it has during the three years we've been involved with the series. For them to leave right when it's doing particularly well, it's very unfortunate because it kind of puts a negative spin on many things."

Clarke would rather see Toyota or Chevrolet stay. Not so much to share the success the IRL has recently discovered with Patrick, the only woman in the series who drives for the Honda-powered Rahal Letterman Racing team. Clarke said Honda would like to have at least one other engine manufacturer with which to compete.

"We're not looking to leave or we're not looking for any excuse or reason to leave," Clarke said. "Many of the objectives we have for being involved in racing are centered around competition. The fact that we may not have competition is something that's concerning to us and something we will have to ultimately come to grips with as we want to proceed."

Although unlikely, lack of competition could also drive Honda away from the IRL, Clarke said. One of those directions is to NASCAR, following Toyota, which made its debut this year in the Craftsman Truck Series and will join the ranks of the Nextel Cup Series in 2008.

"We look at anything and everything all the time," Clarke said. "It's kind of an ongoing process to keep an eye on all the racing series and what they're doing."

Clarke did not say Honda is looking specifically to move into NASCAR, but he did say branching out into another racing series is a possibility.

"From the beginning of HPD, we've always been focused on one singular program," Clarke said. "First that was CART. Now it's the IRL. But going forward, with the resources that we have, we're looking at diversifying into more than just one series."

Before that day comes, though, Clarke would like to see another engine manufacturer join the IRL.

Apparently in an uncharacteristic move, the IRL has openly solicited engine manufacturers to join. Even though the IRL has only been around since 1996, it has never had to ask engine suppliers to join the league.

"In the past, it just happened," Clarke said. "They have not solicited or recruited manufacturers. They just come. I know that was in our case. But I also know that recently the IRL has sent out solicitation letters to manufacturers trying to get their interest in coming to the series to participate."

And the invitation was not well received.

"They either didn't get a response or the response was no," Clarke said.

The future is very uncertain for Honda and the IRL. At a time when the IRL is generating a new-found audience, it's losing two of its strongest supporters: Toyota and Chevrolet. Plus, it's putting a tremendous burden of one of its strongest assets: Honda.

Clarke said given time, Honda will have the resources and the capability to provide the IRL with as many engines as it needs. It looks like Honda has decided to remain committed to the IRL even under the most adverse of circumstances.

"We're in it already," Clarke said. "All I can say, it's being strongly considered that we do stay and that we do our best to help the series, to help it grow and make it better so ultimately more manufacturers are lured to it."

Tim Haddock covers motor sports for the Daily News.

He can be reached at (818) 713-3715 or timothy.haddock@dailynews.com INDY RACING LEAGUE

Toyota Indy 400





"They either didn't get a response or the response was no," Clarke said.

Andrew Longman
10-13-05, 12:57 PM
Not seeing a lot new here. Honda never will be happy being a sole supplier.

Another site is reporting a rumor that Ford was in Indy to talk to IRL officials about engines. That was new if true.

RichK
10-13-05, 01:01 PM
"We're in it already," Clarke said.

Understatement of the year! :laugh:

racer2c
10-13-05, 01:05 PM
Not only does Danickle have to drive, do sponsor PR work, her hair and nails, but she has the weight of the future of the series riding on her shoulders. Tough gig.

trauma1
10-13-05, 01:25 PM
the gomers at TF believe this is good news, unfricking believable

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66651

FRANKY
10-13-05, 01:52 PM
the gomers at TF believe this is good news, unfricking believable

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66651


Compared to the alternative of them leaving it would be good news.

trauma1
10-13-05, 03:18 PM
oh honda is leaving, clarke is just looking for somewhat of a gracefull way to bail, but make no mistake aabout it they will bail :rofl:

indyfan31
10-13-05, 03:35 PM
Not only does Danickle have to drive, do sponsor PR work, her hair and nails, but she has the weight of the future of the series riding on her shoulders. Tough gig.
How solid is a series when it's future depends almost entirely on a rookie driver that consistently finishes mid-pack?

Insomniac
10-13-05, 05:05 PM
And in other news, the sky is blue. ;)

cart7
10-13-05, 07:26 PM
There's more rumours flying at TF now than Dallara's and Gforces on the track.

RockStar to CCWS, not happy with the Phoenix/Cali pullout. Company is Based in Vegas.

Penske to run a car in CCWS with, gulp, Gaylio behind the wheel. Possibly picking up Pennzoil sponsorship.

Another Panther to CCWS rumour.

That flushing sound just keeps getting louder. :gomer:

TorontoWorker
10-13-05, 11:15 PM
oh honda is leaving, clarke is just looking for somewhat of a gracefull way to bail, but make no mistake aabout it they will bail :rofl:

Well you know, there is that little old letter thats on file right now with the IRL that is a letter of intent to leave this series. The final no go/go period is I believe mid summer - 2006. Now the Earl and Honda put on a brave face when this letter was sent by Clarke at the time. But the fact remains, they have a round in the chamber and the safety is off - Oh but trust us says Clarke, we won't pull the trigger. Where have we heard that one before? :laugh:

It's a real toss up between TG and Clarke on who I would vote off the island. Could we have a death match in the cage to settle? :D

Jervis Tetch 1
10-14-05, 10:01 AM
the gomers at TF believe this is good news, unfricking believable

http://www.trackforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66651
What a bunch of maroons. :gomer:

trauma1
10-14-05, 10:53 AM
not the sharpest knifes in the drawer are they, someone should tell them there is meds that will help them, but then we will lose the humor and laughs the give us every day :rofl:

btw i'm unbanned from dolans, but i don't know if it's a good thing or not with defender and his goose steppers, oh well it's friday

Methanolandbrats
10-14-05, 11:32 AM
There's more rumours flying at TF now than Dallara's and Gforces on the track.

RockStar to CCWS, not happy with the Phoenix/Cali pullout. Company is Based in Vegas.

Penske to run a car in CCWS with, gulp, Gaylio behind the wheel. Possibly picking up Pennzoil sponsorship.

Another Panther to CCWS rumour.

That flushing sound just keeps getting louder. :gomer: It's going to be a very interesting winter :D

Ozarkian
10-14-05, 01:02 PM
It's going to be a very interesting winter :D

Just what I was thinking - probably the most entertaining one in years.

RacinM3
10-14-05, 06:20 PM
"We're not looking to leave or we're not looking for any excuse or reason to leave," Clarke said. "Many of the objectives we have for being involved in racing are centered around competition. The fact that we may not have competition is something that's concerning to us and something we will have to ultimately come to grips with as we want to proceed."

It's Clarke....you have to look for the real message inside the fake one.

L1P1
10-14-05, 10:36 PM
It's Clarke....you have to look for the real message inside the fake one.

But in this case, even the fake message is void of commitment - or sometimes even meaning.

devilmaster
10-14-05, 10:44 PM
It's Clarke....you have to look for the real message inside the fake one.

We gotta get you back into a car Scott.... Waaaaaay too much time on your hands.... ;) :laugh:

racer2c
10-14-05, 11:05 PM
Cypher deciphered= "We are so out of here".

My wife watches National Treasure like once a day. It's weird. :)

RacinM3
10-15-05, 01:13 AM
Not to worry Steve...I'll be back in a car next week testing for the Thunderhill 25 hours in Dec!

But yes, I had too much time on my hands there....