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Gnam
02-25-14, 02:40 PM
The A10 definitely re-affirmed its value in the Sandbox1. I thought that a big part of that was the escape-road attack, where the A10's racked up big armor numbers. (Right weapons platform, right time.)
I could be wrong, but I think most of the carnage along the 'Highway of Death' was done by Apache helicopters. Fighter planes bombed the front and rear of the column, and then the helichoppers went down the line blasting every vehicle one-by-one.

Maybe they think a drone could do the job better, or that the A-10's job is no longer necessary on the battlefield.

*edit: I am wrong. The highway was bombed by strike aircraft. The Apache's engaged a second column on another stretch of road.

cameraman
02-25-14, 04:24 PM
Interesting thing about #1 was the f-117 only flew at night and suffered no losses/damage. See how cool stealth is!

The A-10 flying during the daylight had 20 aircraft lost or damaged during the war but the A-10 flew over half its missions at night. In the dark it also suffered no losses and no damaged aircraft. And it flew vastly more missions at night than the F-117.

Also well after the war the air force brass admitted that their refusal to allow the ground crews to repaint the dark green A-10s a low visibility grey was serious error that made the planes extremely easy to see, even above the 12,000 ft lower limit imposed by command.

Elmo T
02-25-14, 04:48 PM
I thought A-6's got some of that work too?

If you have to put a pilot in a plane for close air support - you want an A-10. Now whether that mission still exists...?

cameraman
02-25-14, 05:02 PM
It seems after the second day or so they decreed that unless it was an absolute emergency that no aircraft was allowed to drop below 12,000 ft because there the only combat damage was coming from dudes on the ground with guns taking pot shots and shoulder launched sams. Ended up something like 95% of the tonnage of munitions dropped were iron bombs. The news at the time had us thinking otherwise.

Gnam
02-25-14, 07:11 PM
Ended up something like 95% of the tonnage of munitions dropped were iron bombs. The news at the time had us thinking otherwise.
Yes, it was the Every Vietnam Era Munition MUST GO! event of the century.

SteveH
04-07-14, 07:51 PM
Navy to unveil railgun in San Diego (http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/Apr/07/navy-railgun-sandiego-display-july/?#article-copy)

Cool technology, I'd love to see this fire a projectile. Wonder what it sounds like?

Gnam
04-07-14, 08:41 PM
Navy to unveil railgun in San Diego (http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/Apr/07/navy-railgun-sandiego-display-july/?#article-copy)

Cool technology, I'd love to see this fire a projectile. Wonder what it sounds like?
Ping? ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U_R6tJfr-M

SteveH
04-07-14, 09:04 PM
:rofl:

KLang
04-07-14, 09:10 PM
Navy to unveil railgun in San Diego (http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/Apr/07/navy-railgun-sandiego-display-july/?#article-copy)

Cool technology, I'd love to see this fire a projectile. Wonder what it sounds like?

I doubt the weapon itself makes much sound. I'll bet the projectile breaking the sound barrier makes a bit of noise though.

Nice to see our tax dollars still paying for some development. :thumbup:

G.
04-08-14, 01:07 PM
I doubt the weapon itself makes much sound. I'll bet the projectile breaking the sound barrier makes a bit of noise though.

Nice to see our tax dollars still paying for some development. :thumbup:

and they're going to power it by seawater...

http://news.yahoo.com/us-navy-game-changer-converting-seawater-fuel-150544958.html;_ylt=AwrBJR84LERTdxUAtinQtDMD

nrc
04-08-14, 02:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ix62_oBGtg

The firing sound is about two minutes in. Sounds surprisingly conventional. I wonder how dangerous all that debris from the sabot is for objects downrange but short of the target.

indyfan31
04-08-14, 04:09 PM
I get the theory behind it, but where does the big ball of fire come from? :confused:

SteveH
04-13-14, 10:46 PM
US Navy christens huge $3 billion destroyer ship USS Zumwalt that appears as a fishing boat on enemy radar (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-navy-christens-huge-3-billion-destroyer-ship-uss-zumwalt-that-appears-as-a-fishing-boat-on-enemy-radar-9257304.html)

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9257350.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/AN41397662In-this-image-prov2.jpg

nrc
04-14-14, 02:52 AM
Those mirrors will never work.

Gnam
04-14-14, 11:53 AM
I like the Russian version better. ;)

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303695604575181911796253780

http://s29.postimg.org/ofz6zy6cn/1_scaled1000.jpg

Gnam
04-17-14, 01:00 AM
No Apache for you!


National Guard loses Apache helicopters

Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno told members of Congress on Tuesday that the move will save $12 billion through fiscal year 2017, Defense One reported.

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/9/national-guard-loses-war-army-over-apache-transfer/
Fun! fun, fun until the Army takes the chopper away. :(

Gnam
09-23-14, 04:12 PM
...and the first b!#^@es to run are... ground targets of the Khorasans (an Al-Qaida group), in ISIS territory, in Syria.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2014/09/23/at-long-last-f-22-raptor-fighter-makes-its-debut-in-combat-over-syria/

nice of Assad to turn off the SAMs during the festivities. :thumbup:

Gnam
11-12-14, 04:37 PM
A little bit of fuss over the Chinese showing off their new fighter plane, the J-31, while US President Barak Obama was attending a conference there. It seems their new plane looks a lot like America's new plane, the F-35.

One Chinese official said they were only building it for export to compete with international F-35 sales. What a bunch of pricks. :D
It would be funny if the US placed an order and the US Air Force was flying Chinese jets with Russian engines. ;)

http://s2.postimg.org/631lv6hp5/Shenyangj31secwatchimage.jpg

http://s9.postimg.org/4z33pxvvz/J31_f35_compare.jpg

cameraman
11-12-14, 05:20 PM
It would be even funnier if the Chinese version of the F-35 was actually functional as opposed to the US version:flaming:

Gnam
11-12-14, 06:40 PM
That's the other possibility. The F-35's true purpose might be a huge counter-intelligence operation to trick the Chinese into building and selling a flying bucket of bolts. It would be sneak attack on their defense budget: a financial Pearl Harbor. :gomer:

stroker
11-12-14, 11:43 PM
That's the other possibility. The F-35's true purpose might be a huge counter-intelligence operation to trick the Chinese into building and selling a flying bucket of bolts. It would be sneak attack on their defense budget: a financial Pearl Harbor. :gomer:

they sort of did that with the TU-144...

SteveH
11-24-14, 06:37 PM
See U.S. Navy's drone-killing laser (http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2014/11/23/orig-us-navy-laser-system.cnn-u-s-navy.html)

the sound bed :yuck:

cameraman
11-24-14, 07:12 PM
Is there any form of reporting that CNN can't screw up?:saywhat:

mapguy
11-24-14, 07:55 PM
^ The weather?

dando
12-10-14, 09:54 PM
Lightsabers are apparently next.

http://time.com/3628047/navy-laser-weapon-test-persian-gulf/

Gnam
12-10-14, 10:02 PM
Lightsabers are apparently next.

http://time.com/3628047/navy-laser-weapon-test-persian-gulf/
Turbo laser is more better.

http://s29.postimg.org/p6z25d86f/Turbolaser.jpg

dando
12-12-14, 03:56 PM
Interesting.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1647141/aurora-project-mystery-booms-over-britain-and-u-s-linked-to-secret-spy-plane/

Gnam
01-25-15, 09:05 PM
Ha! Finally, some good news. All is not lost.


The Warthog Lives!

Happily, the Air Force has failed again in its crusade to kill off a great plane.

This December saw the climax of one of the more peculiar conflicts in Washington. It was a battle over an Air Force plane. But it was not one of those standard-issue Washington procurement battles in which congressional bean counters seek to kill off a hugely expensive project that the relevant military branch insists is vital for American security. It was almost the opposite: The politicians were trying to save a weapon system, and the service brass, together with one of America’s aerospace giants, were trying to get rid of it.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/warthog-lives_823820.html?page=1

Sounds like the USAF needs a serious attitude adjustment. :mad:

nrc
01-28-15, 12:14 AM
This is next verse same as the first for the Air Force. Combat air support is low priority for them so they always assume that they'll handle it with re-tasked strike fighters. The Air Force originally wanted to replace the A-10 with F16 variant. They even tried putting a 30mm cannon under it. Turns out it's not such a fearsome weapon when you can't hit anything with it.

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article18.html

The DOD should have the Army set the requirements for a next generation CAS platform. If the Air Force can't come up with a cost effective way to fill that role then give the mission (ie money) to the Army. See how fast the Air Force figures it out then. This is basically how the A-10 came about.

Elmo T
02-11-15, 11:51 AM
B-52 fun

B-52 turns 60 (http://www.cnet.com/pictures/the-b-52-bomber-turns-60-photos/?ftag=ACQ63afa6d)

http://i60.tinypic.com/2hq5bt5.jpg

Gnam
02-18-15, 02:30 PM
A-10 squadron deployed to Germany.

The U.S. Air Force is sending its "tankbusters" back to Europe.

The service's European Command said this week that 12 A-10 Thunderbolts would be deployed to Spangdahlem Air Base, Germany, as part of Operation Atlantic Resolve, which was formed after Russia's intervention in Ukraine over the past year.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/12/world/a-10-jets-to-europe/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4EFddbHkRo

SteveH
02-21-15, 04:12 PM
'Ghost Rider': B-52 resurrected from desert Boneyard (http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/21/us/arizona-b-52-restored/index.html)


For the first time, the U.S. Air Force has resurrected a B-52 bomber that had been in long-term storage at the Boneyard, the portion of Davis-Monthan Air Force Base near Tucson, Arizona, where the military sends aircraft that have been retired from the fleet.

KLang
02-21-15, 05:35 PM
'Ghost Rider': B-52 resurrected from desert Boneyard (http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/21/us/arizona-b-52-restored/index.html)

Very cool. Wonder if they have some carpet bombing missions coming up? ;)

dando
02-21-15, 06:43 PM
Damn, Gnam...I think that video linky caused brain damage </butthead & beevis> ;) Not sure if that song or Hell's Bells (or as my youngest calls it...the 'ding-dong song') is more appropriate. I love the Warthog. Awesome, awesome plane. :thumbup: :thumbup:

dando
02-22-15, 06:38 AM
'Ghost Rider': B-52 resurrected from desert Boneyard (http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/21/us/arizona-b-52-restored/index.html)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mynzbmrtp9I

SteveH
02-22-15, 11:25 AM
:thumbup:

Gnam
02-23-15, 04:23 AM
Once they get that B-52 fixed, the pilot better request a tower fly-by.


http://youtu.be/iRV6JszMXoo

nrc
02-23-15, 10:16 AM
http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/107/2/b/negative_ghostrider____by_guerrillaone-d3e6nfi.jpg

Elmo T
03-06-15, 08:41 AM
Wasn't sure where to put this...

25 Years Ago Today: On its final flight, our Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird set a new speed record flying from Los Angeles, CA to Washington, DC in 1 hour, 4 minutes, 20 seconds, averaging 3,418 kph (2,124 mph). Upon arrival at Washington Dulles International Airport, the aircraft was turned over to the Smithsonian and is now on display at the Udvar-Hazy Center in Chantilly, VA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suWhYA5EeD0&feature=youtu.be

dando
03-06-15, 02:27 PM
What's next? Sharks...with lasers? ;)

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/03/06/lockheed-martin-demos-high-powered-laser-weapon-blasts-through-truck/

Gnam
03-06-15, 03:31 PM
Would you settle for ill-tempered, mutated sea bass?


As for the lasers, ISIS is just going to wrap their Toyota's with chrome. :gomer:

dando
03-06-15, 04:22 PM
Would you settle for ill-tempered, mutated sea bass?


As for the lasers, ISIS is just going to wrap their Toyota's with chrome. :gomer:

Assault by Manatee. Of course by laser. :gomer: Or following Paul Revere....onef by land, toweth by sea, and threeth by manatee. :D

SteveH
03-06-15, 04:26 PM
laser cats

751

G.
03-06-15, 05:19 PM
laser cats

751

You taunted them with pointers. You made them do stupid acrobatics and video-taped them. The videos went viral.

Now, the cats will get revenge.

Laser Cats

Coming to IMAX 3D this summer.

Gnam
03-24-15, 08:02 PM
Chuck Norris supports the A-10 Warthog. :)

http://www.wnd.com/2015/03/save-the-a-10-thunderbolt/

FACT:
The Pentagon has a direct line to the President; the President has a direct line to Chuck Norris.

nrc
05-30-15, 04:46 PM
Grrl and I made a trip over to the Air Force Museum in Dayton on Thursday. Every time I go there I'm amazed. It's simply overwhelming how much there is to see there. Even with three giant hangars they don't have room for everything so they're in the process of adding a fourth.

This is the first time we've been back since they added the Space Shuttle Crew Compartment Trainer exhibit. It's very nicely done with a mock-up of the shuttle built behind the CCT so that you can walk into the mock payload bay and see the scale of it all.

763

We picked a good time to go since they'll be removing the CCT display along with some other aircraft from the third hanger later this summer to prepare for the move into the new hangar next year. We'll plan to go back once that opens and probably need to allow even more time.

If you haven't visited the Air Force Museum web site I recommend it. There's a nice virtual tour and some amazing 360 degree views from inside the cockpit and crew positions of interesting planes from all eras.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/virtualtour/cockpits.asp
http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/full/tour-std.html

dando
05-30-15, 06:55 PM
Grrl and I made a trip over to the Air Force Museum in Dayton on Thursday. Every time I go there I'm amazed. It's simply overwhelming how much there is to see there. Even with three giant hangars they don't have room for everything so they're in the process of adding a fourth.

This is the first time we've been back since they added the Space Shuttle Crew Compartment Trainer exhibit. It's very nicely done with a mock-up of the shuttle built behind the CCT so that you can walk into the mock payload bay and see the scale of it all.

763

We picked a good time to go since they'll be removing the CCT display along with some other aircraft from the third hanger later this summer to prepare for the move into the new hangar next year. We'll plan to go back once that opens and probably need to allow even more time.

If you haven't visited the Air Force Museum web site I recommend it. There's a nice virtual tour and some amazing 360 degree views from inside the cockpit and crew positions of interesting planes from all eras.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/virtualtour/cockpits.asp
http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/full/tour-std.html

Love the Air Force Museum. I lived in Kettering for a couple of years, and my Mom worked at Wright Pat, so the museum was a staple for us to visit.

Put a trip to KSC on your bucket list. I saw Atlantis there in 11/13. Humbling experience.

Next on list the National Air and Space Museum in DC. I was last there in 1986, but they have expanded the exhibits.

Lux Interior
05-30-15, 08:04 PM
Brother in law is a retired engineer for Lockheed Martin. My sister has lived by the cape since 1986. Seen a ton of shuttle launches.

Taking Lux Jr. to Air and Space this summer, along with the spy museum:

http://www.spymuseum.org/

nrc
05-31-15, 02:07 PM
Love the Air Force Museum. I lived in Kettering for a couple of years, and my Mom worked at Wright Pat, so the museum was a staple for us to visit.

Put a trip to KSC on your bucket list. I saw Atlantis there in 11/13. Humbling experience.

Next on list the National Air and Space Museum in DC. I was last there in 1986, but they have expanded the exhibits.

Agreed. I hit the Air and Space Museum as a kid (a loooong time ago) and we did the KSC back in the days when they had shuttles on the pad. I'm thinking next is the Naval Aviation Museum in Pensacola.

Elmo T
06-01-15, 07:47 AM
I've hit all the above mentioned. Each has its own cool appeal.

AF Museum - for sheer number of aircraft and the variety. And the XB-70. And a B-58. And a MiG-29. Well you get the idea. Actually. what I think is the best part is that they tell you about that aircraft in front of you. Not just the history of that model - its the history of that one plane as well.

Air & Space has the real deal historic planes. Spirit of St. Louis, X-1, etc. The trip really isn't complete with taking the drive out to the Udvar-Hazy Center.

The Naval Air Museum is similar to the Air Force Museum, though a smaller collection. And FWIW, visit Pensacola Beach. I am not a fan of all things beachy, but it was wonderful.

KLang
06-01-15, 08:49 AM
Air & Space has the real deal historic planes. Spirit of St. Louis, X-1, etc. The trip really isn't complete with taking the drive out to the Udvar-Hazy Center.


Love Air & Space, love visiting DC in general. Is there some sort of bus or shuttle service out to Udvar-Hazy? I've never rented a car in DC and I have no desire to drive there.

Elmo T
06-01-15, 09:28 AM
Love Air & Space, love visiting DC in general. Is there some sort of bus or shuttle service out to Udvar-Hazy? I've never rented a car in DC and I have no desire to drive there.

The Metro's Silver Line is up and running and will get you very close - but you will still need a bus transfer for the final leg.


From the Museum in DC:

Exit Museum at Independence Ave.
Cross intersection; turn right onto Maryland Ave. and walk one block to the L'Enfant Plaza Metro station.
Take Metro Silver Line to Wiehle-Reston East station. Fares paid with metrorail passes or SmarTrip cards.
Transfer to Fairfax Connector Bus No. 983. Bus fares paid with SmarTrip card or cash. Bus drivers do not carry change.
Exit bus at Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center stop.

The trip takes approximately 1 hour and 30 minutes.

SteveH
06-01-15, 09:50 AM
Udvar-Hazy is nothing short of amazing. It is a HUGE facility and is packed with aircraft, absolutely packed. Allow enough time, several hours for sure. The original Air and Space museum just off the Mall, hasn't suffered for lack of aircraft either. Have been in both over the last 4 years or so. My oldest son used to live in the DC area, hated to see him move.

KLang
06-01-15, 09:56 AM
The Metro's Silver Line is up and running and will get you very close - but you will still need a bus transfer for the final leg.

Thanks. I think Air & Space is missing an opportunity, they could probably make a few bucks running a service back and forth a couple times a day.

Elmo T
06-01-15, 09:59 AM
Udvar-Hazy is nothing short of amazing. It is a HUGE facility and is packed with aircraft, absolutely packed. .

Crazy thing is Udvar-Hazy looks small compared to the Air Force Museum at WP.

They are all worth a visit because every museum has its own "one of a kind" thing to see.

Cool thing in DC now - the Boeing Gallery is being renovated. Aircraft are being lowered to the ground for some updated documentation, cleaning, and for prepped for the new display. Got to see Spirit of St. Louis up close and personal.

http://i60.tinypic.com/28bwco5.jpg

SteveH
06-01-15, 10:35 AM
Crazy thing is Udvar-Hazy looks small compared to the Air Force Museum at WP.



WP is on my bucket list. Probably a two day visit.

SteveH
06-24-15, 09:12 PM
Here's a B-52 Stratofortress and all of its ammunition in one photo

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-many-bombs-a-b-52-can-haul-2015-6#ixzz3e236OZWD


http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/558aaa86eab8ea5b3d57802a-1200-858/b52.jpg

Andrew Longman
06-26-15, 08:12 AM
Love Air & Space, love visiting DC in general. Is there some sort of bus or shuttle service out to Udvar-Hazy? I've never rented a car in DC and I have no desire to drive there.FWIW you can rent a car right in the Union Station train station. I've done it a lot.

dando
06-27-15, 06:48 PM
Love Air & Space, love visiting DC in general. Is there some sort of bus or shuttle service out to Udvar-Hazy? I've never rented a car in DC and I have no desire to drive there.

You might want to look into the Metro routes. It runs all over DC.

Andrew Longman
06-29-15, 03:37 PM
You might want to look into the Metro routes. It runs all over DC.

See Elmo's post above. Sorry, I haven't had a chance to give you crap in a long time. :gomer:

Metro works very well in DC but until very recently it didn't run to Dulles or very far out in the VA burbs. Something about the locals thinking the "undesirables" would use mass transit to come out to their neighborhood and ruin things. Or sum such I am told. ;)

dando
06-29-15, 03:51 PM
See Elmo's post above. Sorry, I haven't had a chance to give you crap in a long time. :gomer:

Metro works very well in DC but until very recently it didn't run to Dulles or very far out in the VA burbs. Something about the locals thinking the "undesirables" would use mass transit to come out to their neighborhood and ruin things. Or sum such I am told. ;)

Yes, but it's better than your manager making you drive illegally in the airport lanes from Dulles into DC and then RFK. :gomer: Wouldn't have been that been that bad if RFK wasn't such a **** hole. :saywhat: Only saving grace for that POS stadium was seeing the white 'Frank Howard' seats. And of course watching his Nats fall BIG to the Bums. :D They still haven't torn down RFK. :saywhat:

SteveH
06-30-15, 09:22 AM
This Is What World War III Will Look Like (http://time.com/3934583/world-war-3/)





U.S. and Chinese warships battle at sea, firing everything from cannons to cruise missiles to lasers. Stealthy Russian and American fighter jets dogfight in the air, with robotic drones flying as their wingmen. Hackers in Shanghai and Silicon Valley duel in digital playgrounds. And fights in outer space decide who wins below on Earth. Are theses scenes from a novel or what could actually take place in the real world the day after tomorrow? The answer is both.

SteveH
09-16-15, 12:23 PM
Watch 50 drones controlled at once in a record-breaking swarm (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn28173-watch-50-drones-controlled-at-once-in-a-record-breaking-swarm/)

which brings to mind this.... a swarm of 50 flying monkey drones would be so damned cool = victory!
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uX2MIRmHT3g/maxresdefault.jpg

dando
09-16-15, 03:28 PM
F-35 no worky.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/15/politics/f-35-report-question-readiness/index.html

nrc
09-16-15, 05:48 PM
F-35 no worky.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/15/politics/f-35-report-question-readiness/index.html

That's not really what the reports says. The Marines declared "Initial Operational Capability" as a PR stunt. The F35 did fine in the test in question, it just didn't meet the normal bar for IOC. A lot of of the reasons for that are more about supply chain and training than the actual performance of the aircraft.

Interesting factoid that I picked up from some recent reading: When the B-29 was first deployed they regularly caught fire and crashed. At the time needs dictated that it was just one of those things that would have to be worked out in the field but a lot of pilots and crew died while it was being sorted out. We're fortunate that we can spend years getting the bugs out of these things while defense contractors and politicians snipe at one another as they burn our money.

Gnam
09-16-15, 07:10 PM
That's not really what the reports says. The Marines declared "Initial Operational Capability" as a PR stunt. The F35 did fine in the test in question, it just didn't meet the normal bar for IOC. A lot of of the reasons for that are more about supply chain and training than the actual performance of the aircraft.

Interesting factoid that I picked up from some recent reading: When the B-29 was first deployed they regularly caught fire and crashed. At the time needs dictated that it was just one of those things that would have to be worked out in the field but a lot of pilots and crew died while it was being sorted out. We're fortunate that we can spend years getting the bugs out of these things while defense contractors and politicians snipe at one another as they burn our money.
Necessity is the mother of invention, and war is the mother of necessity.

In other news, Boeing has a new helicopter. The rear prop makes it looks like a submarine.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxSvsccwsXk

http://s8.postimg.org/5uspefjsl/646_425652_570978.jpg

dando
09-16-15, 09:42 PM
That's not really what the reports says. The Marines declared "Initial Operational Capability" as a PR stunt. The F35 did fine in the test in question, it just didn't meet the normal bar for IOC. A lot of of the reasons for that are more about supply chain and training than the actual performance of the aircraft.

Interesting factoid that I picked up from some recent reading: When the B-29 was first deployed they regularly caught fire and crashed. At the time needs dictated that it was just one of those things that would have to be worked out in the field but a lot of pilots and crew died while it was being sorted out. We're fortunate that we can spend years getting the bugs out of these things while defense contractors and politicians snipe at one another as they burn our money.

I saw a video on this last week...the site also had a video on the new bitchen Tesla that pulls 1.2Gs and 0-60 in 2 seconds. :eek: But I digress... Anyway, there's two parts to this. The plane needs cold fuel, or it go boom. The Air Force initially painted the fuel trucks white, but that was deemed to be a bad idea since it reflected light and made them easier targets. So then they built 'car ports' for the trucks...hopefully as an interim solution.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-f-35-cant-run-on-warm-gas-from-a-fuel-truck-that-sa-1668120726

nrc
09-17-15, 03:42 AM
I saw a video on this last week...the site also had a video on the new bitchen Tesla that pulls 1.2Gs and 0-60 in 2 seconds. :eek: But I digress... Anyway, there's two parts to this. The plane needs cold fuel, or it go boom. The Air Force initially painted the fuel trucks white, but that was deemed to be a bad idea since it reflected light and made them easier targets. So then they built 'car ports' for the trucks...hopefully as an interim solution.

http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-f-35-cant-run-on-warm-gas-from-a-fuel-truck-that-sa-1668120726

Except.. not. Nothing goes boom and there have been no reports of F35s failing to fly because of hot fuel. After Pratt & Whitney responded that there were no requirements for such measures the base responded that they were being pro-active to avoid any possibility of problems.

http://fightersweep.com/1010/latest-f-35-problem-hot-fuel/

cameraman
09-18-15, 12:28 PM
So the wonks at DARPA are building a Persistent Close Air Support system which is basically a very high-end communications system between plane, controllers and ground troops. Guess what platform they put it on, that's right the A-10C and the MV-22. And according to this particular press release from the folks building it, the system works quite well.


DARPA recently demonstrated its Persistent Close Air Support (PCAS) prototype system on an A-10 Thunderbolt II attack aircraft, marking the system’s debut on a U.S. Air Force platform. The tests, which involved 50 successful sorties near Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, showed that a warfighter serving as a joint terminal attack controller (JTAC) on the ground could, in seamless coordination with a pilot, successfully command an airstrike with as few as three clicks on a tablet.

The PCAS program envisions more precise, prompt and easy air-ground coordination for close air support (CAS)—delivery of airborne munitions to support ground forces—and other missions under stressful operational conditions and in complex environments. It aims to do so through the development of a system that enables the sharing of real-time situational awareness and weapons-systems data, using technologies compatible with almost any aircraft. Among the system’s envisioned benefits is a capacity to use smaller munitions to hit smaller, multiple or moving targets while minimizing the incidence of friendly fire and collateral damage.

During the recent A-10 tests, ten of the sorties featured live-fire weapons engagements using a mixture of laser- and GPS-guided munitions—all of which were completed successfully within the six-minute goal the program has set. Coordination was enabled by PCAS-Ground software running on customized tablet computers working in conjunction with PCAS-Air, an onboard, automated targeting system. PCAS tactical datalinks facilitated data sharing between the pilot and JTAC to determine the timed release of precision-guided munitions.

More at http://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2015-09-17

cameraman
10-05-15, 02:18 PM
The last flight, circling the museum location...

Q3uD-N1KMxs

dando
10-05-15, 02:48 PM
The last flight, circling the museum location...

Q3uD-N1KMxs

:thumbup: :thumbup:

nrc
10-08-15, 10:59 PM
While it's another thumb in the eye of American power and influence, you have to think that American intelligence is loving the opportunity to see Putin's boys in live action in an area where we should have plenty of surveillance capability.

For example, oops their hot new cruise missiles landed in Iran instead of Syria.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/politics/russian-missiles-syria-landed-iran/

Elmo T
10-09-15, 10:14 AM
The last flight, circling the museum location...



:thumbup::thumbup:

I got to see one fly at an air show at Willow Grove NAS in the early 1980's. My memory is a little fuzzy, but what stands out is how closely guarded it was on the ramp. Other planes were very accessible, but the Vulcan was taped off and had armed guards.

I don't think that any planes involved in the Falklands came stateside, but the timing was about right.

nrc
10-09-15, 12:58 PM
:thumbup::thumbup:

I got to see one fly at an air show at Willow Grove NAS in the early 1980's. My memory is a little fuzzy, but what stands out is how closely guarded it was on the ramp. Other plans were very accessible, but the Vulcan was taped off and had armed guards.

I don't think that any planes involved in the Falklands came stateside, but the timing was about right.

I recall seeing similar security around aircraft during that time. My recollection is that anything that was nuclear capable had heightened security.

nrc
10-29-15, 02:32 AM
The XB-70 has been moved to it's new home in the Air Force Museum's fourth wing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5dvQ-sVbmM

Elmo T
10-29-15, 09:09 AM
The XB-70 has been moved to it's new home in the Air Force Museum's fourth wing.


Watching it be pushed back into the new home, I pondered when, if ever, she'd see daylight and fresh air again.

I am happy to see it the new home and not that old hanger, but there was something cool about the limited number of visitors in the old building and the lack of real displays and barriers. You could walk right up to, under, around, and practically inside so many cool aircraft.

Some photos from this summer:

http://i67.tinypic.com/1441kat.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/2k4yvr.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/27ycx13.jpg

Elmo T
10-29-15, 09:12 AM
Some great video on this just posted by the musuem:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCO4ls4x7Lo&feature=youtu.be

SteveH
10-29-15, 09:39 AM
That plane is soooooo badass. And over 50 years old. Amazing

dando
10-29-15, 10:08 AM
http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/blog/2015/10/once-envisioned-as-a-long-range-strike-bomber-the.html

Spent a lot of time there when my mom worked at Wright Pat in the early 70s before we moved to Cbus. Back then many of the 'artifacts' were housed outdoors. Super excited to go back to see the changes. :thumbup:

TravelGal
10-29-15, 11:36 AM
Off topic but it's kinda fun when you recognize the kid in the photo before the rest of it. Thank you Facebook. :D

TKGAngel
10-29-15, 12:15 PM
That plane is soooooo badass. And over 50 years old. Amazing.

Also makes you appreciate how badass the pilots of those things had to be.

I initially thought the thread bump was about yesterday's runaway NORAD blimp.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/28/politics/loose-blimp-norad-east-coast/

stroker
10-30-15, 09:41 PM
Bucket List!

nrc
10-31-15, 09:17 PM
Watching it be pushed back into the new home, I pondered when, if ever, she'd see daylight and fresh air again.

I am happy to see it the new home and not that old hanger, but there was something cool about the limited number of visitors in the old building and the lack of real displays and barriers. You could walk right up to, under, around, and practically inside so many cool aircraft.



It's pretty amazing to see it "in the wild". Looks like they could just push it back and let it taxi out to the runway. I'm hoping it will have a bit more room in the new gallery. When we last saw it in the the old space it had so much packed in around it that it was hard to appreciate it.

RaceGrrl
10-31-15, 10:01 PM
That plane is soooooo badass. And over 50 years old. Amazing

It's in my top-5 list of favorite planes. So bizarrely beautiful...

Can't wait to visit her in her new home. We weren't able to get on base to the hangar when we visited WP this summer.

Elmo T
11-02-15, 10:05 PM
From Air and Space FB page - Chuck Yeager visiting the X-1 last Friday. :thumbup:

http://i65.tinypic.com/n13487.jpg

stroker
11-03-15, 11:45 AM
tough to see the General in a wheelchair... Old Man Time gets us all, doesn't he?

dando
11-03-15, 01:44 PM
All I got is he is a dude.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Yeager

I have always tipped my cap driving through WV on the CY. :thumbup:

Elmo T
11-03-15, 03:35 PM
tough to see the General in a wheelchair... Old Man Time gets us all, doesn't he?

Based on the FB page they have for him, his social calendar is pretty well booked up.

And given what he's been thru in his life, how wonderful and amazing that he is still with us.

SteveH
11-03-15, 07:50 PM
A national treasure, the right stuff absolutely.

Elmo T
11-06-15, 03:28 PM
Layout of new wing of USAF Museum:

http://i68.tinypic.com/10oegwl.jpg

Link to larger image:

http://media.dma.mil/2015/Oct/16/2001304821/-1/-1/0/151016-F-DW547-001.JPG

If you want to go full geek, here are virtual 360 tours of XB-70 cockpit - amazing details:

http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/086/XB-70A%20Pilot%20Station.html

http://www.nmusafvirtualtour.com/media/086/XB-70A%20Copilot%20Station.html

dando
11-06-15, 08:12 PM
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/11/06/f-35-aerial-gatling-gun-test-vstan-zc-orig.cnn

:eek:

dando
11-07-15, 01:20 PM
http://gizmodo.com/nasas-super-guppy-eats-spacecraft-parts-for-breakfast-1740995425

dando
11-17-15, 06:19 PM
https://www.rt.com/usa/322417-nuclear-bomb-test-nevada/

:eek:

Elmo T
11-18-15, 09:43 AM
https://www.rt.com/usa/322417-nuclear-bomb-test-nevada/

:eek:

An improved nuke gravity bomb?

That is like reading we improved the bayonet. :saywhat:

stroker
11-18-15, 09:59 AM
That is like reading we improved the bayonet. :saywhat:

At the paltry cost of $10K per.... :D

cameraman
11-18-15, 11:24 AM
An improved nuke gravity bomb?

That is like reading we improved the bayonet. :saywhat:

It is the new version of their "bunker buster". The old version, the B61-11 was accurate to roughly 150 yards of the target and had a yield of 400 kilotons. The new version is accurate to 30 yards and "only" has a 50 kiloton warhead.

I say only because the bomb dropped on Hiroshima was 15 kiloton and Nagasaki was 21 kiloton.

dando
12-15-15, 10:36 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3359934/The-stealth-superwing-generation-Air-Dominance-fighter-jet-built-laser-weapons-revealed.html

:eek:

dando
01-01-16, 07:39 PM
@ElmoT geeks out...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuuIY8Gk3EA

;)

mapguy
01-02-16, 08:02 AM
http://i68.tinypic.com/2k4yvr.jpg



Canadian, eh? The Avrocar. Designed and built in Toronto. From the fine people at Avro that brought us the Arrow:

https://nationalpostcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/avro-arrow-replica.jpg?w=620&h=465

TravelGal
01-02-16, 02:58 PM
@ElmoT geeks out...

;)

I run outside every year, hoping to catch a glimpse of it but it's too far to the east. This year I heard a bit of the roar, I thought, but it could have just as easily been a truck on the freeway. :confused: Best ever was several years ago, when they still had a local airshow, and the darn thing came in, literally just over our heads. We were parked in the flight path less than a mile from the landing strip and that thing was low and loud!!! :thumbup: